Linux-Misc Digest #165, Volume #27 Mon, 19 Feb 01 18:13:02 EST
Contents:
informal browser test ("Anurodh Pokharel")
Supermount for 2.4.1? (David Bell)
Re: fwtmp? (Michael Heiming)
Re: removing linux
What am I missing? ("D F")
Re: DAMN! my printer isn't printing :((( (Anita Lewis)
Re: Looking for something Linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: DAMN! my printer isn't printing :((( (Joern Abatz)
Re: What am I missing? (Steven Conway)
Rebuilding a source RPM with modified source (Mladen Gavrilovic)
Re: Size of LINUX (Rolie Baldock)
Re: fastest SCSI CDROM drive (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Doom for Linux (Mladen Gavrilovic)
help: fstab, mac/msdos floppies, and mac/pc scsi harddrives (David. E. Goble)
Help: apache access denied...problems (David. E. Goble)
Re: help: fstab, mac/msdos floppies, and mac/pc scsi harddrives (Rod Smith)
Where to get Terminus? (Steen Suder)
Q: local host name cannot be resolved ?!? (bv)
Re: fwtmp? (Doug O'Leary)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
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From: "Anurodh Pokharel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: informal browser test
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:10:38 -0500
the past couple of weeks I've been asking around on the newsgroup about
if there was a browser for linux better than Netscape 4.7.
Today I decided to run an informal test on mozilla and galeon comparing it to
netscape. In the end i found that on my system; Mandrake 7.1, window
maker, gnome on a PII 266 32 megs RAM--although low-end by todays
standard, by no means slow-- Netscape by far had the best
performance with regard to speed and memory usage. I decided to share
the info in case anyone else might find it useful..although everything
came out as expected..
I measured loading time, memory usage (using top) and the total amount of
time taken to load a fixed set of pages and a little stress test running XMMS, balsa
and pan at the same time as viewing the set of pages.
Pages: Google, Yahoo, Cnn, foxnews, MSNBC, slashdot, rpmfind, gamespot,
Mozilla
was too slow to even run properly on my machine.. near impossible to
browse
Galeon
Memory Usage:18Megs
Time to load: 47s
Time for pages: 5 min 02 sec
Stress: XMMS skipped at times
Netscape
Memory: 14 Megs
Time to load: 25 s
Time for pages: 3 min 58 sec
Stress: ok
So there you have it folks, Netscape 4.7 is still the best. (although i
have left out the rendering of web pages, becasue there is no sure fire
way of measuring that )
-anurodh
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Bell)
Date: 19 Feb 2001 21:18:44 GMT
Subject: Supermount for 2.4.1?
Will the 2.4.0final supermount patch
(http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/8144/supermount.html) work with
kernel 2.4.1? I've been having some trouble patching the 2.4.1 tree, getting
this error:
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file linux-2.4/fs/Config.in.rej
1 out of 6 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file linux-2.4/fs/super.c.rej
Is there a fix, or do I need to wait for the next supermount release? Thanks!
=========================
David Bell - Otherwise known as DB7654321
Remember to remove nospam, notrash or anything odd looking from my email
address. :)
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:21:09 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fwtmp?
Doug O'Leary wrote:
> Hey;
>
> Thanks for the response. Your solution doesn't fit the problme
> which is understandable because I didn't say what problem is that
> I'm trying to fix. Don't ask the right question, don't get the
> right answer... Go figure.
>
> My linux box has been up for closing in on a year now; the wtmp
> file is a mite huge. It's getting close to the point where
> the dates will wrap. For instance, doing a
>
> last | grep "Feb 19"
>
> is going to print records from today and from last February 19th.
>
> What I'd like to do is trim off the previous year's info, leaving
> only this years.
>
> On other unixes, I use the fwtmp to create an ascii file, modify it
> appropriately, then send it back to wtmp through fwtmp -ic. It's
> been awhile since I've done it, so I'd have to go back and check the
> logic, but that's close.
>
> Anyway, thanks again for the response.
>
> Doug
Aha, that's another thing, I didn't knew but sounds intersting and I
couldn't think that Linux is missing something like this:
http://www.google.de/linux?q=clnwtmp&btnG=Google+Search&hq=&site=search&restrict=linux&hl=en&safe=off
Looks interesting, quite a bit old but what should have changed to wtmp,
anyway, I would give it a try....
I would be interested in your expirience, if you choose to try it,
please email.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: removing linux
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:30:11 -0000
Don't worry. I still have Linux. I have 2 PCs at my home and I use it in
only one PC so that's why I want to remove it on the other one. I found the
GNOME version of Linux more user-friendly than the KDE.
alan simes wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I got rid of a D drive partition (~1 GB) under DOS in ordet to reserve
> > space for Red Hat Linux 6.2. Now, I want to get rid of Red Hat and
reclaim
> > that free space under Windows 98. What steps need to be taken to carry
it
> > out?
> >
> > --
> > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > http://www.help.com/
>
> you must be mad, windows is fucking awful...
>
>
> alan
>
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: "D F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: What am I missing?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:32:48 -0500
I've been trying to rearrange some stuff on my Mandrake
6.2ish installation in order to make room for another
operating system. So, I bought and installed a new 40 GB
hard drive which is working well. Next, I copied some of my
partitions to the new drive, edited /etc/fstab,
/etc/lilo.conf, ran lilo, the whole nine yards. Everything
appeared to be working as intended. Then, when I tried to
startx, it starts fine but, when it comes time to build the
KDE desktop, it stops with the message "kfm needs write
permission to /tmp/"
So, I checked the permissions. As it was, the 't' bit wasn't
set on the new /tmp (as it was on the old), so, thinking
that might be it, I set it with chmod o+t /tmp. No
difference. BTW, X starts fine as root! lsattr shows no
attributes set on either the old or new partition.
Anyone have an idea of what I might be missing?
--
Dave Fluri North Bay, Ontario Canada
(The opinions herein are mine. I do not speak for my
employer unless I expressly indicate otherwise.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: DAMN! my printer isn't printing :(((
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:51:28 GMT
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:09:14 +0100, Reiner Griess wrote:
>Hi together,
>
>i have never had such problems with installing
>a printer in RedHat. /etc/printcap is configured,
>lpd is runnning (restarting does not help).
>
>The problem seems to be there with the parallel
>port?! 'lpstat > /dev/lp0' should print
>some ASCII chars to the printer - but nothing
>happens! No errors in /var/log/messages...
>The ASCIIs are sent to nirvana....
>
>Any ideas??
>Thank you
>
>Reiner
You may need to do
/sbin/insmod parport
/sbin/insmod parport_pc
/sbin/insmod lp
Anita
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for something Linux
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:27:40 +0100
Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> either. I could have left out KDE, since I like GNOME/Enlightenment
> better (another minor disagreement I have with Peter), but left it
I've simply never been able to work out how to resize windows in gnome.
Choose resize from the menu, and the cursor changes shape OK. Go to a corner
or edge with it and nothing happens. So give up and click, and it reverts
to normal.
Whaaaaat?
What else can I do except move or click? Drag? It seems to revert at first
click.
There's probably more I can't do, but that's the point I give up at. And
since making the windows and fonts the right size is event zero in my desktop
life, goodbye gnome :-).
> on my machine because I have a few other users on my machine and I
> expect that they might like to use KDE. To start with, however, you
> might wish to leave out GNOME/Enlightenment AND KDE AND the entire X
> Window System and run your GNU/Linux system the way we used to run
> UNIX: Command line interface only. You might wish to choose which
He might!
> choice); I happen to use bash. Likewise, there are a bunch of text
> editors around; I happen to use emacs, but it might be easier to
I was about to say "gnome is probably intelligible to emacs users".
Is this true?
> start with vi (and many people never switch from vi; some things are
> easier in emacs, some things are easier in vi. So I use both at one
Sure ... people always call on me to do particular things with vi that they
can't do easily in emacs .. like reformat spreadsheets.
> # hosts.deny This file describes the names of the hosts which are
> # *not* allowed to use the local INET services, as decided
> # by the '/usr/sbin/tcpd' server.
> #
> # The portmap line is redundant, but it is left to remind you that
> # the new secure portmap uses hosts.deny and hosts.allow. In
> particular
> # you should know that NFS uses portmap!
> ALL : ALL
ALL : ALL except 127.
Nicer.
Peter
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From: Joern Abatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: DAMN! my printer isn't printing :(((
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:22:25 +0100
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:09:14 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Reiner Griess)
wrote:
>The problem seems to be there with the parallel
>port?! 'lpstat > /dev/lp0' should print
>some ASCII chars to the printer - but nothing
If you have the parport modules installed, make it /dev/par0
Joern
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From: Steven Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: What am I missing?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:10:41 -0500
Make sure you have /tmp and can be read and written by everyone
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:32:48 -0500, "D F"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've been trying to rearrange some stuff on my Mandrake
>6.2ish installation in order to make room for another
>operating system. So, I bought and installed a new 40 GB
>hard drive which is working well. Next, I copied some of my
>partitions to the new drive, edited /etc/fstab,
>/etc/lilo.conf, ran lilo, the whole nine yards. Everything
>appeared to be working as intended. Then, when I tried to
>startx, it starts fine but, when it comes time to build the
>KDE desktop, it stops with the message "kfm needs write
>permission to /tmp/"
>
>So, I checked the permissions. As it was, the 't' bit wasn't
>set on the new /tmp (as it was on the old), so, thinking
>that might be it, I set it with chmod o+t /tmp. No
>difference. BTW, X starts fine as root! lsattr shows no
>attributes set on either the old or new partition.
>
>Anyone have an idea of what I might be missing?
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From: Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Rebuilding a source RPM with modified source
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:20:06 GMT
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone knows how to rebuild a source RPM with the
code in the /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES directory... I know that you can
rebuild it with the code in the package with "rpm --rebuild
<package>.src.rpm", and that you can put the tar.gz into
/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES with "rpm -Uvh <package>.src.rpm".
However, I would like to untar/unzip the code in SOURCES, change it,
then use that code in the RPM installation. How do I do this? Do I
need to tar/gzip the directory again or can RPM read it directly?
Regards,
Mladen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolie Baldock)
Subject: Re: Size of LINUX
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:25:50 GMT
Hello Peter,
I do not recall saying I had a problem because I don't. I simply asked
if a LINUX based server would run better in the hardware I have in my
two servers or would it require a horrendous upgrade like the rumours
I have heard.
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 07:54:00 +0100, "Peter T. Breuer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Rolie Baldock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> After all that gassing, can anybody tell me how big a small LINUX
>> system sufficient to act as a LAN server would be say compared to
>
>LAN server of _what_? If your mean files, about 8MB of disk. Whatever
>memory you can get.
>
>> other software servers on the market? I have a couple of 486 DX-33
>> servers with 6 SCSI disks attached, the servers have 8 Mb of RAM and
>> their own 50Mb HDDs. I have two workstations running an old DOS which
>
>The MHz is your problem here. Those are going to be turtles at
>processing anything. They may work OK as file servers, but they won't
>be fast.
>
>Peter
--Rolie Baldock. email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subtract one thousand and nine for direct email
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: fastest SCSI CDROM drive
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:25:17 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hunter wrote:
>
>I'm looking for a recommendation for the fastest/best for the price
>SCSI CDROM drive. I noticed on pricewatch that the IDE drives go up
>to 72x and the SCSI ones only go to 40x. Why is this? Are the SCSIs
>competitive because of the faster bus?
[-]
Given the hard time you'll have to find a perfectly balanced CDROM
the 72x, which isn't valid over the whole range of the CDROM anyway,
is more a theoretical number IMHO.
SCSI users just don't need the additional show off factor ;)
[-]
Ta',
Juergen
--
\ Real name : Juergen Heinzl \ no flames /
\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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From: Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Doom for Linux
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:26:16 GMT
I think your problem is that you're double clicking on it as opposed to
running it from a terminal. Open whatever terminal KDE uses (kterm I
think) and then cd to the doom directory and then type "./xdoom".
Regards,
Mladen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I am a linux newbie so that is why I am asking this basic question. I
> downloaded the Doom for Linux (its on the most popular list on
> Download.com) and put it on my linux computer. The question is: How do you
> run it? I try and open sdoom or xdoom but it asks me what program I want
> to use it with. What program do I want to use it with?
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>
> P.S. I am using Caldera OpenLinux eDesktop 2.4 w/KDE
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: goble@gtech (David. E. Goble)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.linux
Subject: help: fstab, mac/msdos floppies, and mac/pc scsi harddrives
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:28:04 GMT
Reply-To: goble@gtech
Hi all;
I was hoping to be able to access some mac floppies, with the
following line in my /etc/fstab file;
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0
But it gives an error that it tried to find a vfat device.
Yet the line with hfs does work ie;
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy hfs noauto,owner 0 0
How can I get fstab to work with auto, correctly?
also will hfs work on mac formatted scsi drives?
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From: goble@gtech (David. E. Goble)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.linux
Subject: Help: apache access denied...problems
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:28:05 GMT
Reply-To: goble@gtech
Hi all;
I need help. Iam running redhat 6.2. For some reason my www server
(apache) will not let me have access rights.
Oh and I have just installed netatalk-1_4b2+asun2_1_4-0_i386.rpm.
here are some of the config files...;
####### hosts #############
127.0.0.1 gtech localhost.localdomain localhost
########## access_log #################
127.0.0.1 - - [19/Feb/2001:12:56:05 +1030] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 403 260
########## httpd.conf #################
ServerType standalone
Port 80
StartServers 8
MinSpareServers 5
MaxSpareServers 20
ServerRoot "/etc/httpd"
HostnameLookups off
ServerAdmin root@localhost
ServerName gtech
DocumentRoot "/home/httpd/html"
<Location /doc>
order deny,allow
deny from all
allow from localhost
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
</Location>
<IfModule mod_proxy.c>
<Directory proxy:*>
Options ExecCgi Includes IncludesNOEXEC MultiViews Indexes
AllowOverride AuthConfig FileInfo Indexes Limit Options
Order deny,allow
Deny from all
Allow from gtech
</Directory>
ProxyRequests On
# Enable/disable the handling of HTTP/1.1 "Via:" headers.
# ("Full" adds the server version; "Block" removes all outgoing Via:
headers)
# Set to one of: Off | On | Full | Block
ProxyVia On
# To enable the cache as well, edit and uncomment the following lines:
# (no cacheing without CacheRoot)
CacheRoot "/var/cache/httpd"
CacheSize 5
CacheGcInterval 4
CacheMaxExpire 24
CacheLastModifiedFactor 0.1
CacheDefaultExpire 1
NoCache gtech
</IfModule>
UserDir public_html
DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi
# Allow access to local system documentation from localhost/gtech
Alias /doc/ /usr/doc/
<Directory />
Options FollowSymlinks
AllowOverride AuthConfig FileInfo Indexes Limit Options
</Directory>
<Directory "/home/httpd/html">
Options Includes Indexes FollowSymlinks
AllowOverride AuthConfig FileInfo Indexes Limit Options
# Controls who can get stuff from this server.
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
<Directory /home/*/public_html>
Options IncludesNOEXEC MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
AllowOverride AuthConfig FileInfo Indexes Limit Options
</Directory>
<Files ~>
AllowOverride AuthConfig FileInfo Indexes Limit Options
Order allow,deny
Deny from all
</Files>
<Directory "/home/httpd/icons">
Options MultiViews Indexes
AllowOverride AuthConfig FileInfo Indexes Limit Options
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
<Directory "/home/httpd/cgi-bin">
Options ExecCgi
AllowOverride AuthConfig FileInfo Indexes Limit Options
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.linux
Subject: Re: help: fstab, mac/msdos floppies, and mac/pc scsi harddrives
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:42:16 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
goble@gtech (David. E. Goble) writes:
> Hi all;
>
> I was hoping to be able to access some mac floppies, with the
> following line in my /etc/fstab file;
>
> /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0
>
> But it gives an error that it tried to find a vfat device.
>
> Yet the line with hfs does work ie;
>
> /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy hfs noauto,owner 0 0
>
> How can I get fstab to work with auto, correctly?
In my experience, auto doesn't work well with HFS devices. I've not
tested it with the very latest kernels (2.2.18 or 2.4.1), though; it
could well have been fixed. As a workaround, try creating two entries:
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/macflop hfs noauto,owner 0 0
This has the advantage that you can add parameters for the HFS floppy to
get it to do useful but HFS-specific things, like fork=netatalk to get
Netatalk-style handling of resource forks.
> also will hfs work on mac formatted scsi drives?
Yes, if the drives use HFS, not HFS+. AFAIK, there are as yet no HFS+
drivers for Linux. Also, you'll need Mac partition table handling in
your kernel, or the drive must have just one HFS partition. (The HFS
drivers include rudimentary HFS partition handling, but it's not
flexible enough to deal with multiple partitions. It's useful for Zip
disks and the like, though.)
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: Steen Suder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where to get Terminus?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:43:23 +0100
Where is the most inexpensive online place to buy the game Terminus from
Vicarious Visions? I live in europe so shipping must be low as well.
www.tuxgames.com used to be a good spot but they've seem to have gone
out of business... or what?
--
Steen Suder
OpenSource - Because propriety doesn't lead to anything
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From: bv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: local host name cannot be resolved ?!?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:52:05 +0100
Hello Linux-Community,
I have a little problem with linux on my PC, perhaps someone can give me a
hint.
I've been using Linux Mandrake for more than a year now as replacement for
Windows and never had serious problems. Several weeks ago I installed new
because I got a new harddisk.
Since this new installation I get error messages from many programs,
including the X-Server, GNOME and several others. The messages all say that
the local host name cannot be found. So xinetd and all services that listen
on TCP/IP ports do not work. In linuxconf, though, the hostname appears
correctly, the environment variable for hostname is also set. What can be
the reason? Any hints appreciated.
Greetings
--
Bastian Voigt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Doug O'Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fwtmp?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:59:02 -0800
[This followup was posted to comp.os.linux.misc and a copy was sent to
the cited author.]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>
>http://www.google.de/linux?q=clnwtmp&btnG=Google+Search&hq=&site=search&restrict=linux&hl=en&safe=off
>
> Looks interesting, quite a bit old but what should have changed to wtmp,
> anyway, I would give it a try....
>
> I would be interested in your expirience, if you choose to try it,
> please email.
>
Hey;
I gave it a try and it worked like a champ. Useful little utility that
one; I'll have to see if I can track down the author. Thanks for the
tip.
BTW, it came compiled and w/source. I recompiled it because I'm a
paranoid SOB. For reasons best left to debuggers, the new compiled
program was a few 100 bytes bigger than the old one. Either way, though,
it worked.
Doug
--
===================
Douglas K. O'Leary
Senior System Admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 19 Feb 2001 22:53:33 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Who cares about politics or government?
:> As far as I'm concerned most of the world
:> governments impose high taxes and do much
:> more than they should do "for the people".
:> Everything except law enforcement and the military
:> should be privatized and out of government
:> hands. Then maybe things will get better.
: Two words. California electricity.
Bad example: California electricity was only halfway deregulated,
and the fact that it was done half-assed was what caused the
problem - full-assed deregulation would have been better, NO
de-regulation at all would have been second best, but the current
condition of half-deregulation only on the supply side (not the
consumer demand side) is the worst of all possible worlds.
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