Linux-Misc Digest #263, Volume #24 Tue, 25 Apr 00 12:13:15 EDT
Contents:
Re: Boot Linux from ATAPI ZipDrive (John in SD)
Re: Lilo Problem ("Dirk Gently")
Re: Knews ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Floppy format problem. ("Charles Sullivan")
Re: Another shell script question (Siemel Naran)
Re: mounting logical partitions (Robie Basak)
Re: Chinese torture with my disk (Robie Basak)
Re: I think I have been HACKED!!! (Robie Basak)
Re: redhat graphic login (Jason)
Re: Floppy format problem. ("Charles Sullivan")
Re: FREE FRED ZIFFEL! NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE! (Was re: Airnews policy: (Disco Bob)
Re: News server recommendation (bill davidsen)
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot Linux from ATAPI ZipDrive
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:52:47 GMT
LILO uses only int 0x13 bios calls to get Linux loaded. Do you know
if your zip drive has bios (int 0x13) support?
--John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:48:39 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm trying to boot a Debian linux from an ATAPI zip drive using
>LILO, but at boot time LILO only shows 'LIL' and stops.
> I did a lot of different versions of lilo.conf, but none of them
>worked.
> Anybody knows how i can boot linux from an ATAPI ZipDrive?
>
>
>Tkz,
>Jorge Rocha
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: "Dirk Gently" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo Problem
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:55:46 GMT
I was installing over a old, corrupt installation.
--
Jeff Lacy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Warren Raquel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Dz2N4.10886$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> LIL- means the descriptor table is corrupt. This can either be caused by a
> geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/map without running the map
installer.
> Is this a fresh install or did you install over a previous installation?
>
> "Dirk Gently" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:iR1N4.127$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I just installed Suse 6.3 on a different computer. It installed just
fine
> on
> > my first one, but lilo won't work on the second on. It says "LIL-". I
> can
> > even boot Linux! I tried installing lilo on the mbr, a floppy, and
/boot,
> > but to no avail. Please help me. Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Lacy
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Linux Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Knews
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 08:35:19 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt?= Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I have just installed Knews, and I am trying to launch it: the window
> appears, but I only get the message "Connected to server; reading active
> file..." (.newsrc-<myNewsServer> ?). And it never ends up with it !
> Please could someone give me an explanation for this ? Thanks in advance
> for any answer.
It's downloading the entire group list. After a very long time, it will give
you the opportunity to subscribe/unsubscribe for groups.
It will do this every time you run it unless you set a setting in the
newsrc-<host.domain> file (can't recall the option name, don't have
it installed any more, something like read active file).
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Floppy format problem.
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:06:12 GMT
David C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > Has anyone successfully formatted a 5.25" double-density 360K floppy
> > diskette on a high-density 1.2 Meg floppy drive under Linux,
> > specifically RedHat 6.0? Or any version of Linux?
> >
> > I use the command:
> > fdformat /dev/fd0d360
>
> use /dev/fd0h360
>
> d360 is for 360K drives
> h360 is for 360K disks in 1.2M drives
That's it David. fd0h360 does the job. Thanks.
Regards,
Charles Sullivan
> man fd(4) for more information.
>
> -- David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Siemel Naran)
Subject: Re: Another shell script question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:22:28 GMT
On 24 Apr 2000 04:33:47 GMT, David Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>OK! Now I just need to find some good documentation on this subject... Know
>any good urls for a non-programmer? :) Thanks for your help!
I think you are a programmer, so you should look at programming URL's.
For gawk, the info page is excellent. Just type "info gawk". If you
have tkinfo installed type "tkinfo gawk". I don't think the info pages
for bash are so good, but you can try them too. As for URL's, I don't
know any. Also, there are lots of good books out there. Avoid the
really technical ones, or the ones that just duplicate the man pages.
==============
siemel b naran
==============
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: mounting logical partitions
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Apr 2000 22:28:02 GMT
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:51:01 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>I have 4 Linux logical partitions on my /dev/hda
>/dev/hda5 Linux native 15Mb
>/dev/hda6 Linux native 690Mb
>/dev/hda7 Swap Linux 120Mb
>/dev/hda8 Linux Native 690 Mb
>I have had some problems with xdm and Xserver and now I cannot login
>the system
If Redhat, type 'linux 3' at the LILO prompt.
>As I have also win98 I made a boot/rescue disk after founding a tool on
>Tom's web site www.toms.net/rb/. Now I can run Linux on my PC but I'm
>not able to access the Linux partition hda6.
>Mounting the partition with
>mount -t ext2 /dev/hda6 /mnt
>gives problems.
Show us the error messages.
>What can I do? Do you know how to mount that logical partition?
Depends on what the problem is.
Robie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Chinese torture with my disk
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Apr 2000 22:30:13 GMT
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:29:05 +0000, Daniel de Rauglaudre said:
>Hello,
>
>> > I have a Chinese torture with my disk. About every 10 seconds, it makes
>> > a small noise that I would like to stop....
>... snip...
>>
>> Are you running StarOffice? SO always did the same thing for me - it doesn't
>> seem like a big deal, but it annoyed me so much I stopped using SO!
>
>No. It seems to be a very low level behavior. The same thing happens
>even when I boot in single user where almost no process is running.
>Actually, sometimes it stops. But I found something doing it:
>
> On a shell, I type "date".
> The date is displayed.
>a:
> A few seconds later, I heard the crrrr on the disk.
> I type "date" again.
> The date is displayed: I look at it: 10 seconds more
> go to a:
>
>The fact that I type "date" makes the disk do a noise 10 seconds later.
>Why? It is Mandrake 7 (Linux 2.2). In my previous installation (RedHat
>5.2, Linux 2.0), it does not do that.
>
>I generally notice that the disk is more often accessed when I am under
>Mandrake 7 Linux 2.2, even in single user level.
Does this still happen when all filesystems are mounted read-only?
Linux will update the last access date on the 'date' program. If you
want to stop it, try adding 'noatime' after 'defaults' in /etc/fstab
for the relevant filesystems (seperated by commas).
Robie.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: I think I have been HACKED!!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Apr 2000 22:32:48 GMT
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:07:50 +0100, Hunter2097 said:
>> : On 24 Apr 2000 00:50:15 +0100, C. Newport ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>>
>> Nowt, so long as you know what you are doing.
>> The inexperienced might not get it right and leave some old stuff about.
>> Disk drives are cheap and have a limited life, so it's easier to bung
>> in a new one just in case.
>>
>
>Er, how can you format a hard-disk wrong?
>
>Surely if you can install Linux you can format a hard-disk?
Nowadays doing a low-level format on a hard-drive is impossible.
So what you must mean is partitioning/making filesystems. Knowing how
to use fdisk is essential for this, so it is possible that someone
does it wrong.
>[snip]
Robie.
--
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From: Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: redhat graphic login
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:30:03 GMT
Vi your /etc/inittab and change your init level from 5 to 3 , this will
fix it.
Regards,
Jason
The Dude wrote:
>
>
> hi, how do I remove the graphic login in RedHat 6.1.
> I wanna get back to the old and good terminal login
>
> --
> Regards
> The Dude
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Floppy format problem.
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:46:04 GMT
Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Unrot13 this;
> Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Charles Sullivan;
>
> CS> Has anyone successfully formatted a 5.25" double-density 360K
> CS> floppy diskette on a high-density 1.2 Meg floppy drive under
> CS> Linux, specifically RedHat 6.0? Or any version of Linux?
>
> CS> I use the command:
> CS> fdformat /dev/fd0d360
>
> CS> and get the following:
> CS> [csul@localhost csul]$ fdformat /dev/fd0d360
> CS> Double-sided, 40 tracks, 9 sec/track. Total capacity 360 kB.
> CS> Formatting ... done
> CS> Verifying ... end_request: I/O error, dev 02:04 (floppy), sector 0
> CS> Read: : Input/output error
> CS> Problem reading cylinder 0, expected 9216, read -1
> CS> [csul@localhost csul]$ end_request: I/O error, dev 02:04 (floppy),
> CS> sector
> CS> 2
> CS> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:04 (floppy), sector 4
> CS> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:04 (floppy), sector 6
> CS> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:04 (floppy), sector 9
> CS> <etc>
>
> CS> I don't have this problem when formatting a high-density 1.2 Meg
> CS> floppy under Linux, and Win 98 will format either 360K or 1.2 Meg
> CS> without a problem. I've also tried a different floppy drive
> CS> with the same results. (Both are Teac drives; one is about 10 years
> CS> old and the other is new.)
>
> CS> Any suggestions as to what I might be doing wrong? Or is this a
> CS> bug?
>
> 1. It may be a bug.
>
> 2. It may be that the linux writers looked at that bad situation and
> decided not to cover it. I sure wouldn't, its a disaster looking for a
> place to happen.
>
> The reasons are pretty basic.
>
> a: the tracks laid by that DSQD drive are only about 40% of the width of a
> true DSDD 360k drive, meaning there is gonna be huge amounts of noise
> from the old data on either side of the new "formatted" track.
>
> b: In addition to double-stepping the heads to make it into a 40 track
> drive, a 48 tpi if you will, the spindle speed must be slowed down from
> 360 to 300 rpm, and the data pump must be switched down from 500
> kilobaud to 250 kilobaud.
>
> c: to go along with the spindle speed, data rate changes, the recording
> currents applied to the heads should also be reduced IF its a DSDD disk,
> something the drive has no sensors to detect, otherwise the heads would
> be driven so hard that the recording is actually partially erased by the
> excess currant.
>
> Overall, trying to make a 360k diskette in a 1.2 megger will have to
> deal with the fact that its probably can only be read in that same
> drive, no real 360k drive, with its wider heads, would ever give you an
> error free read.
>
> Did I mention its a bad idea? The only snowballs chance of making it
> work is if you started with a bulk erased diskette, one erased by one of
> those $30 tape erasers they sell at radio shack. You could probably put
> that disk in a real 360k drive and read it, but if you ever wrote to it,
> and then tried to re-write that same area again in the QD drive, at
> least that file would be trashed forever.
>
> Cheers, Gene
Gene,
It turns out that using fd0h360 (as suggested by David C) instead
of fd0d360 works, and if I then use:
mkfs -t msdos /dev/fd0h360
I get a diskette which is compatible with DOS/Win 98.
What you've dscribed out would have merit were it not for the fact
that the usual 1.2 Meg drives are designed to at least read 360K
double density floppies, and I was able to successfully format one
under DOS/Win 98 (dual boot on the same box). The drives change
speed and data rate depending on the density.
What is undoubtedly true is that this diskette will be unreadable in a
standard 360K double density drive with its wider heads. I think
my 10 year-old drive, a Teac FD55GFR-142, had some sort of dual heads
which allowed writing either wide or narrow tracks, but I can't
find the specs for it on Teac's website. (I'm pretty sure I used
360K floppies to move files back and forth between one of the antiques
I used to play with and the PC with the Teac -142.) The specs for the
new one, FD55GFR-7193, don't mention this. I trashed my last antique
with a double density 5.25" drive about 5 years ago so can't check
it out.
I appreciate your taking the time to respond.
Regards,
Charles Sullivan
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From: Disco Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.romath,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.drugs.pot,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.non.sequitur,alt.music.joe-carta-band,alt.food.mentos
Subject: Re: FREE FRED ZIFFEL! NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE! (Was re: Airnews policy:
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 17:56:28 -0500
hoKEy wOLf wrote:
>
> In article <8e1ocm$8qj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, the portable jim carleton
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > This, from Fred Levi-Addison:
> >
> > >"tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> enjoys the great taste of beef:
> > >
> > >>More TV less talk
> > >>"nebulax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >>news:8doshq$f00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > >>> Spamster <"uce"=?iso-8859-1?Q?=40ftc=2Eg=F6v=3E?= wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Doktor Pete wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > I shit you not, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (�Y|µ�Y) had the nerve to write
> > >>> > > <8dgs4g$5a6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > >This is your brain. Fred Ziffel is your brain on drugs. Any
> > >>questions?
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >%On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:40:15 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (weretoaster) wrote:
> > >>> > > >%
> > >>> > > >%>This is your brain. Emperor James of APDD is your brain on
> > >>drugs. Any
> > >>> > > >%>questions?
> > >>> > > >%>
> > >>> > > >%>%teh killre roabat coednaemd [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cipher) on teh
> > >>spaecsihp
> > >>> > > >%>%alt.usenet.kooks isseud teh fllowign commnad:
> > >>> > > >%>%
> > >>> > > >%>%>In article <8dfvnc$t4a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > >>> > >
> > >>>%>%>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> > > >%>%>(Emperor James of APDD) wrote:
> > >>> > > >%>%>
> > >>> > > >%>%>> teh killre roabat coednaemd [EMAIL PROTECTED] (weretoaster) on teh
> > >>spaecsihp
> > >>> > > >%>%>> airnews.general isseud teh fllowign commnad:
> > >>> > > >%>%>>
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >This is your brain. Sergi is your brain on drugs. Any
> > >>questions?
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%I was like "Oh my GOD! No WAY!" And so then Fred
> > >>> > > >Ziffel
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> totally goes like:
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>[Cross posted to airnews.general because their web page
> > >>> > > >at
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>http://www.airmail.net/help/abuse_policy.html does not
> > >>mention
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >anywhere %>that four newsgroups is excessive
> > >>> > > >crossposting.]
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>I just got of the phone with a guy from Airnews named
> > >>> > > >Bill.
> > >>The
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >reason I %>called him is because my Airnews account
> > >>> > > >(account
> > >>number
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >127428) was %>cancelled last week after someone from the
> > >>newsgroup
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>alt.pizza.delivery.drivers complained about a post I
> > >>> > > >made
> > >>there. My
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >post %>was also crossposted to alt.usenet.kooks,
> > >>> > > >alt.romath,
> > >>and
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>alt.fan.karl-malden.nose.
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>For those of you who are not aware of it, there is
> > >>> > > >currently
> > >>a
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >flame war %>going on in alt.pizza.delivery.drivers. You
> > >>> > > >may
> > >>read
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >about in in %>news.admin.net-abuse.usenet in the threads
> > >>"Chuck Demas
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >for DARTH BAWL", %>"abuse metrics", "[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> > > >makes
> > >>enemies
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >out of friends (was: Re: %>Let's take back APDD for the
> > >>drivers)",
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >and "jre.hostingcheck.com doesn't %>care about usenet
> > >>> > > >rules"
> > >>if
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >you're interested. %>
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>My gripe is not about their policy of defining
> > >>> > > >excessive
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >crossposting as %>being more than three newsgroups,
> > >>> > > >although I
> > >>will
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >say that it seems a bit %>restrictive. My complaint is
> > >>> > > >that,
> > >>until my
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >account was cancelled, and even %>after it was cancelled,
> > >>> > > >I
> > >>was never
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >given their definition of excessive %>crossposting. I had
> > >>> > > >to
> > >>call
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >long distance to find this out, because their %>abuse
> > >>> > > >policy
> > >>page
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >above doesn't define it either. %>
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>I am also a bit disappointed that my account was
> > >>> > > >cancelled
> > >>without
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >any kind %>of notice or warning whatsoever. I have
> > >>> > > >crossposted
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >before, sometimes to as %>many as six newsgroups, and
> > >>> > > >never
> > >>once
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >heard from anyone at Airnews %>regarding it. Since they
> > >>> > > >never
> > >>said
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >anything, I made the mistake of %>presuming that they
> > >>considered
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >excessive crossposting to be something like %>ten or more
> > >>newsgroups.
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>Had someone from Airnews taken a moment to tell me what
> > >>their
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >definition of %>excessive crossposting is, since it's not
> > >>defined on
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >their abuse policy %>page, I would have known not to post
> > >>> > > >to
> > >>more
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >than three groups at a time %>and thus this problem would
> > >>> > > >have
> > >>been
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >avoided. %>
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>Several colleagues of mine took the time to send email
> > >>> > > >to
> > >>Airnews
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >asking %>them to reconsider my account cancellation. Some
> > >>> > > >of
> > >>them
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >received unkind %>responses stating that their email
> > >>constituted
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >abusive behavior and that %>any future email from them
> > >>> > > >would
> > >>be
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >reported to their ISP. %>
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>It is my OPINION that Airnews doesn't state what they
> > >>consider to
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >be %>excessive crossposting on their abuse policy page at
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>http://www.airmail.net/help/abuse_policy.html because
> > >>> > > >it
> > >>enables
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >them to %>cancel accounts based upon the *content* of the
> > >>posts while
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >being able to %>fall back on "excessive crossposting" as
> > >>> > > >the
> > >>official
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >reason given. %>
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>It is also my OPINION that the Airnews policy of not
> > >>contacting
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >customers %>when a complaint is made against them exists
> > >>> > > >so
> > >>that
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >Airnews can cancel %>accounts based upon the *content* of
> > >>posts. If
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >they wanted to stop my %>"excessive crossposting", one
> > >>> > > >email
> > >>warning
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >me would have been sufficient. %>
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%>I do not expect that Airnews will reinstate my account,
> > >>especially
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >given %>the *content* of this post. However, I believe
> > >>> > > >that
> > >>someone
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >should inform %>Airnews customers of the official Airnews
> > >>policies,
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >since, in my OPINION, %>Airnews can't be bothered to do
> > >>> > > >it
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >themselves. %
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >%Fuckheads.
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >Netcops.
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >
> > >>> > > >%>%>> >(cmsg newgroup alt.martyr.fred-ziffel)
> > >>> > > >%>%>>
> > >>> > > >%>%>> SUBSCRIB
> > >>> > > >%>%>
> > >>> > > >%>%>SUBSCRIBE
> > >>> > > >%>%
> > >>> > > >%>%SUBSCRIBE!
> > >>> > > >%>
> > >>> > > >%>ME TOO!
> > >>> > > >%
> > >>> > > >%SUBSCIRBE !!!!!127428!!!!!!!!
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >AD ME TO YUOR LITS
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > [updating .newsrc]
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Ditto!
> > >>> >
> > >>> I agree with this newsgroup.
> > >
> > >Is there, like, a number I can call, or something?
> >
> > 3
>
> bill gates may outlaw the number three, at which time we'll have to use
> Microsoft's own proprietary number "pog udfan"
This does not bode well for open source counting systems.
-Disco Bob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: news.software.nn,news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: News server recommendation
Date: 24 Apr 2000 23:03:06 GMT
In article <3904a205$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I am looking for a news server product(s) (gnu, shareware, or commercial)
| that has the following features:
|
| 1. A regular NNTP / Usenet server that service traditional NNTP news reading
| clients that runs on RedHat.
INN does that.
| 2. A web page interface to the same server for users that do not have NNTP
| clients
There are a few open source products out there which do this, I don't
have the names handy but I could find them.
================> BUT
I don't know of any web browser which doesn't support NNTP, so this is
an odd requirement. Oh, wait, LYNX or some such is a text-only browser,
got many people running VT100 terminals for browsing? Didn't think so.
| 3. A way to password protect either the whole server, or each newsgroup, or
| the web page interface.
You can do this with INN 2.3, it's moderately ugly if you really want
to do each of 40k newsgroups.
| 4 (nice extra). It would be nice if the user authentication mechanism (web
| page or built-in to NNTP server) could authenticate users over an LDAP
| interface against a user list that was on a separate LDAP server.
You can write authentication modules in your favorite language with
INN 2.3. There may be the right thing there, I don't remember.
| Does anybody know of any such products or seen a similar configuration using
| a combination of products?
There is a commercial product from bCandid, called Twister, which will
do everything you want, and then some. However, the minimum size for a
machine to run it is large, and the price (from memory) is about $10k US
per CPU. No, not per system.
I'm looking at it for a large app, but it is a very serious product.
There's also Dnews, I haven't looked at it lately, the license terms
were somewhat odd, but I can't remember just in what way.
| Your advice is greatly appreciated,
You will get the best support here for INN. Look at Diablo, I just
haven't gotten up to speed on the auth in the new stuff. It does many
other things I like, but I don't know how well it works at the bottom
end.
Look at the specs for a few things, don't jump at one.
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bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
"Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979"(tm)
The hardest test of maturity is knowing the difference between
resisting temptation and missing a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
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