Linux-Misc Digest #573, Volume #24 Tue, 23 May 00 19:13:04 EDT
Contents:
ssh2 setup instructions (Kerry Cox)
Changing case of first letter in filename (apswartz)
Re: Good email client for Gnome. (Steve)
Re: UIDL for pop3 servers under linux (Steve)
virtual console screen saver? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Changing case of first letter in filename (Steve)
Problems with CDRECORD (Martin.Ament)
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (Stefan Ohlsson)
passwd Auth tokens problem -- please help (GenaBlu)
Re: pointing elm at pop3 server ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: can't start netscape (Alan Swartz)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Ermine Todd")
Re: Announce: Motif release to Open Source Community leads to Open Motif
Everywhere (Rod Smith)
Re: Installing a new distro while leaving /home intact (Rod Smith)
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (Leslie Mikesell)
Rich text format ("Frank Ekeberg H.")
StarOffice and Red Hat 6.2 (Ronald Hands)
"Post-It" notes for Linux? (Frank Ekeberg Henriksen)
FIX for: Address book crashes Netscape with bus error ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Installing a new distro while leaving /home intact (Bob Hauck)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Davorin Mestric")
Enlightenment Sound Problems (Chris Medcraft)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David Steuber)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David Steuber)
Re: Debian 2.1 Linuxbox won't ping my other Linuxbox (M. Beranek)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (JEDIDIAH)
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From: Kerry Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ssh2 setup instructions
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:09:49 -0600
I am looking for a more detailed explanation of how to setup ssh2 to
communicate between my servers. I would liek all data encrypted, but am
having a bit of trouble assigning keys and configuring their use. I
have read all the man pages and READMEs associated with ssh2 as well as
the tutorials on their page, but they are rather sparse in their
explanation of setting up keys or they assume you have already gotten a
degree in encryption.
Any easy to configure example pages or instructions would be
appreciated. I am using ssh-2.1.0 compiled from source.
KJ
--
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Kerry J. Cox .,. System Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .,. KSL Radio/TV
(801) 575-7771 .,. http://www.ksl.com/
ICQ# 37681165 .,. http://quasi.ksl.com/linux/
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From: apswartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Changing case of first letter in filename
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 21:04:12 GMT
I need help finding the appropriate command to change the case of the
initial letter of multiple filenames...
e.g. from sample.txt to Sample.txt
In DOS I would have done something like...
copy a* A*
Linux commands cp mv ln don't work on multiple files unless the
destination is a directory. I need the files to be in the same
directory. Links are preferable.
Help point me in the right direction.
Thanks,
Alan
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.madrake
Subject: Re: Good email client for Gnome.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 May 2000 22:20:08 GMT
On Mon, 22 May 2000 23:46:27 -0400, Jaime B. Zamora S. wrote:
>Hi, im after a good email client that support multiple accounts, multiple
>identities and read newsgroup.
>
>There is an app that can do that?
Emacs, Pine, Mutt.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
9:20pm up 6 days, 5:25, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 1.01, 1.00
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: UIDL for pop3 servers under linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 May 2000 22:20:08 GMT
On 23 May 2000 17:27:48 +0000, Uwe Brauer wrote:
>Hello
>
>Does anybody know about a mail tool under Linux, which
>deals well with the UIDL feature for pop3 or imap servers.
>
>Emacs VM, fetchmail, fetchpop and kmail either flush the messages or
>keep them and then again receive them, which is not what UIDL should
>do. Why on the other hand does Netscape deal well with those severs?
Can you explain what you mean by UIDL, I have fetchmail working here
perfectly.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
9:20pm up 6 days, 5:25, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 1.01, 1.00
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: virtual console screen saver?
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 21:05:40 GMT
What is it that controls the screen saver on
the virtual consoles? By default, my screen
goes blank after 10 minutes of inactivity and
I want to disable it, but I don't know what
config file to change.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Changing case of first letter in filename
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 May 2000 22:30:28 GMT
On Tue, 23 May 2000 21:04:12 GMT, apswartz wrote:
>I need help finding the appropriate command to change the case of the
>initial letter of multiple filenames...
>e.g. from sample.txt to Sample.txt
>
>In DOS I would have done something like...
>copy a* A*
>
>Linux commands cp mv ln don't work on multiple files unless the
>destination is a directory. I need the files to be in the same
>directory. Links are preferable.
>
>Help point me in the right direction.
In the Tips-HOWTO there's a script fro converting all filenames to
lowwercase, you could alter that script to do what you want I'm sure.
On my distro the HOWTOs are in usr/doc/HOWTO/ and if you havn't got
them you can find them at:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
10:19pm up 6 days, 6:24, 2 users, load average: 1.09, 1.15, 1.08
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From: Martin.Ament <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems with CDRECORD
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:35:19 +0000
Hallo !!
I habe a Problem with CDRECORD.
I used it with SUSE 6.2 and it worked fine. But since I've updated to 6.4. I
only can get the error messages below.
Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Basis: SUSE6.4
Tekram395
no more SCSI
bash-2.03# cdrecord dev=0,4,0 -blank=fast
Cdrecord 1.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J�rg Schilling
scsidev: '0,4,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 4 lun: 0
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
Device type : Removable CD-ROM
Version : 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities :
Vendor_info : 'RICOH '
Identifikation : 'CD-R/RW MP7060S '
Revision : '1.50'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags : SWABAUDIO
cdrecord: Warning: using default CD write parameter data.
Mode Select Data 00 21 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 05 32 11 04 08 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 96 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
cdrecord: Input/output error. mode select g1: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
CDB: 55 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 44 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 26 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x26 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in parameter list) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
cmd finished after 0.008s timeout 40s
cdrecord: Warning: using default CD write parameter data.
Mode Select Data 00 21 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 05 32 01 04 08 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 96 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
cdrecord: Cannot set speed/dummy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Ohlsson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Reply-To: Stefan Ohlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23 May 2000 23:41:03 +0100
s@- wrote:
>In article <8gdp99$k4a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter says...
>
>May be you guys who think a bug tracking system is not needed for
>linux kernel, need to take a course in software engineering one
>day, but from the types of replies I read, I doubt that one course will
>make any difference.
>
I just want to say that I agree. More and more projects get bugtracking
systems, Debian is a very good example and I think it would benefit Linux
to also have one. Since the Linux project is the most important of all
(there wouldn't be much without the kernel, would it?), I think it's
just good old common sense. That way more people can work on more bugs
(or maybe "issues"? :-)) instead of many people on the same one.
/Stefan
--
[ Stefan Ohlsson ] � http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dal95son/ � [ ICQ# 17519554 ]
Don't try and bend the spoon because that is impossible. Instead try to
realize the truth. There is no spoon.
/The Matrix
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GenaBlu)
Subject: passwd Auth tokens problem -- please help
Date: 23 May 2000 21:42:34 GMT
Greetings!
I am getting a problem running passwd to change my (and others') password.
This is under RH5.1/PAM. A shadow password file wasn't installed during the
initial installation.
[root@lavender /etc]# passwd
passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
Two things happened lately that *may* have affected this:
1. We're building a bood disk using Yard 1.18 and one of us may have mucked up
the PAM configuration (it doesn't look like it, though)
2. We had a power outtage on Sunday night and this particular machine died.
fsck recovered the partitions and reported no damages, but you never know.
Help, please?
Thanks!
G
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pointing elm at pop3 server
Date: 23 May 2000 21:41:34 GMT
Peter Bismuti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Our company uses a POP3 mail server and I have an IP address
: that they have given me, how can I point me Linux box at
: this address so I can read me mail with elm?
You can't - elm is not a transport agent or a pop client. Bring
the mail over with fetchmail, popclient or netscape and you can
read it locally at your leisure with elm.
Or use an integrated transport and user interface. Netscape or pine?
: Also, there is a name of a program that sorts mail into folders
: before you read it according to subject,cc,from, etc, what is
: the name of it?
procmail
Peter
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From: Alan Swartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: can't start netscape
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:50:32 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I use caldera 2.3 and presently have a problem with netscape.
> I tried to install real player 7, and it seemed to go ok, but now I
> can't launch netscape at all.
> i get an error saying there is a ~/.netscape/lock file. there is, and i delete
> it; but the error comes back everytime i try to start netscape.
>
> i can start netscape on other accounts on my machine ok, so i presume my
> /usr/bin/netscape is not affected.
>
> i am sure this is related to the real player installation, how can i uninstall
> it? or, what else can i do?
>
> thanks
How are you trying to delete the lock file?? Are you checking afterwards
to make sure it is deleted? From a console window try
rm -f ~/.netscape/lock
and see if that works.
--
Alan Swartz 200 S. 4th St., Mebane, NC 27302
Personal Webpage: http://members.dencity.com/apswartz
5:48pm up 1 day, 1:00, 2 users, load average: 0.13, 0.05, 0.01
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From: "Ermine Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 14:47:48 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
An MSDN subscription is freely available online at http://msdn.microsoft.com
to all interested parties. This contains all the documentation available.
Next time, check your facts before spouting nonsense.
--ET--
"Apple Advertising" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> You forgot to figure in that in order to program in Windows a DECENT (read
> reasonably stable, reasonable performance, reasonable maintainability,
etc.)
> program, you have to first BUY the SDK and API documentation (free
documentation
> included with Linux - other flavors of *nix vary); and don't forget you
also
> have to BUY the compiler. BTW - Visual Basic to me is not the best of
> programming examples since it does NOTHING to teach the new programmer
proper
> coding techniques, let alone teach STANDARDS in programming. Especially
since
> you have to change your coding to match the changes in the OS every 3
years in
> order for your program to be OPTIMIZED (read new API's that replace old
API's)
> and in some instances actually RUN.
>
> This may sound strange to people not used (or can even remember when)
there was
> a 256K memory barrier, but excess causes people to add more junk in
programs
> instead of optimizing what they have.
>
> I may be a little off here, but I still have not been able to find
documentation
> on Windows interfacing without having to purchase the books. And if
someone
> suggests that the documentation is free - how much did it cost you to go
through
> Windows certification training before you have access to this free
> documentation?
>
> BTW - same programming software requires a per-machine license in order to
> LEGALLY be used - Sorry my wife won't let me keep up with the single
software
> group that I do have let alone get legal on the several machines that I
work on
> at home (in this case, programming for me is a hobby, not a job).
>
> - Ken
>
>
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Announce: Motif release to Open Source Community leads to Open Motif
Everywhere
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 21:51:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Rod Smith would say:
>>>[Posted and mailed]
>
>> [Please don't mail if you're posting; it is surely likely that I'll see
>> the post...]
>
> And it's BLOODY irritating as well...
> I tend to read and respond to my e-mail while my news is still downloading,
> and there's nothing worse than replying to something, and then having to
> reply again on the newsgroup because someone was being a plonker.
As this was prompted by a reply by me, I'll say that your sentiments,
although not uncommon, are far from universal. Overall, I've had as many
people thank me for both e-mailing and replying to groups as have
complained. My news reader inserts "[Posted and mailed]" when I do this,
so recipients know the reply comes both ways.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Installing a new distro while leaving /home intact
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 21:55:47 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <8ger7k$ngo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) writes:
> I am going to be doing a re-install on a few machines and /home is on a
> completely sepearate disk that will not be touched. To keep owner/group
> information correct what do you I need to save besides the passwd and
> shadow files?
Those two files contain all the information you need, AFAIK. You should be
sure you set the new installation to use the same password encoding,
though, else the passwords in shadow will be useless.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 23 May 2000 16:57:49 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Darren Winsper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > The current system seems to work well.
>>
>> How do you know? How many useful bug reports are not being filed?
>
>Would you care to point us in the direction of any major bugs in the
>stable kernels that have survived several revisions?
There have been NFS bugs in all of the 2.2.x versions - ufs bugs
from somewhere around 2.2.6 to 2.2.10. Things like that are
almost certain to cause data loss to people that don't know
about them, so it would be extremely nice to have a central
repository for bug tracking, Even if it has nothing to do with
actually getting them fixed, the rest of us could use it for
the workarounds and to know which versions to avoid.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Frank Ekeberg H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Rich text format
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:25:35 +0000
Is there a decent non-X program for reading/writing documents in the Rich Text Format
(.rtf)?
I have problems opening .rtf attachements in mutt, and it is pretty annoying having to
open StarOffice (which is a terrible memory hog) just to read short email attachements.
Thanks,
frank
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ronald Hands)
Subject: StarOffice and Red Hat 6.2
Date: 23 May 2000 21:56:43 GMT
Has anyone succeeded in getting the StarOffice 5.1 or 5.1a suite to work
with Red Hat 6.2?
Or am I the only one having difficulty?
In my case, I get an "unrecoverable error" message and then the program
shuts down. After that, it aborts midway through the startup process.
This is with the Gnome Desktop on a Pentium 133, 32 meg Ram, lots of
disk space and lots of swap space.
A friend runs 5.1 on Red Hat 6.1 and has no problems. I can run the
Windows version with no problems.
After I had tried the 5.1 version and encountered these difficulties, I
sent a message to Sun's support folks and they said 5.1a would cure the
problem. I downloaded. It didn't make any difference.
Suggestions?
-- Ron
Hamilton, ON
--
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From: Frank Ekeberg Henriksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Post-It" notes for Linux?
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:50:56 +0000
Does anyone know of a "post-it note" program for Linux? Y'know, that kind of useful
little note thing to stick on the desktop.
Thanks,
frank
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FIX for: Address book crashes Netscape with bus error
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:06:29 GMT
THE SOLUTION to the problem "Netscape crashes in Linux when I use the
Address Book" is posted at:
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10433
The SOLUTION offered by notting.AT.redhat.com is simple:
1.- exit Netscape and make sure that no Netscape process is running.
2.- remove the lines containing the word "locale" from your
.netscape/liprefs.js and .netscape/preferences.js files!
These lines should look almost like this:
user_pref("ldap_2.servers.pab.locale","en_US")
3.- restart Netscape.
Many thanks to notting.AT.redhat.com!!!
Nick
In article <8fv3bh$4s8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Michael Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Carter Brey wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello--
> > >
> > > Am running NS 4.72, RH 6.2. Every time I try to access
> > >
> > > the address book, NS crashes with a "bus error"
> > >
> > > message. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
> >
> > I used to have a corrupted address book that crashed my NS4.61. The
> only
> > way to solve this seemed to be deleting the abook and restoring from
a
> > backup.
>
> Close but no cigar...
>
> I've got almost the same problem. I create a brand new address book
> from scratch, and while NS no longer crashes, it can't retrieve any
> information from the entries I've created.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Installing a new distro while leaving /home intact
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 21:21:08 GMT
On 23 May 2000 20:55:16 GMT, Jason Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>To keep owner/group information correct what do you I need to save
>besides the passwd and shadow files?
Nothing.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: "Davorin Mestric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 00:18:52 +0200
Apple Advertising <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> have to BUY the compiler. BTW - Visual Basic to me is not the best of
> programming examples since it does NOTHING to teach the new programmer
proper
> coding techniques, let alone teach STANDARDS in programming.
were you thinking about something that does teach proper programming? if
so, please say what were you thinking about.
also, what standars in programming are you talking about that VB does
not teach, but (i presume) something on linux does?
Especially since
> you have to change your coding to match the changes in the OS every 3
years in
> order for your program to be OPTIMIZED (read new API's that replace old
API's)
> and in some instances actually RUN.
your hate for microsoft makes you blind to the truth. windows api is
very stable since win95, not to mention that even going from win16 to win32
was not that bad as you probably think it was.
compare this to KDE or Gnome development, which is very unstable at this
point.
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From: Chris Medcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Enlightenment Sound Problems
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:39:54 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Has anyone had any problems with sound using Enlightenment as a window
manager? With KDE I have no problems at all - wav files, mpg files
all play perfectly. However, when I switch to E, nothing.
I've got a Turtle Beach Montego card, with the OSS drivers. I've
tried enabling sound in the Gnome settings and the E settings.
If anyone has *any* tips whatsoever, please post them! I'd hate to
have to go back to using KDE in X!
Remove the 'nospamplease' to reply
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:20:23 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Tue, 23 May 2000 08:59:59 GMT...
...and David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The right is non-exlusive. That means everyone can get that right. I
> think TrollTech is just trying to prevent forking of the Qt library
> here.
Exactly that is which is bad IMHO. Real software freedom has always
been the freedom to fork.
mawa
--
The utility of a fancy Web browser is damn near zero compared with the
utility of a really good text editor.
-- mawa
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:59:59 GMT
Someone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' Mr Steuber is an excellent example of my point. In my message can't you
' tell I LIKE linux, I have Linux, I have used Linux for several years. It
' is a great hobby to configure but once it is working what are you going to
' use it for? Why don't any of the free ISPs support Linux? That would be
No, I could not tell.
I also don't see how support by free ISPs is any kind of indicator of
the quality of technology. I wouldn't touch those free ISPs with a 20
meter, high voltage catle prod.
As for what are you going to use if for, you are clearly limited by
your imagination. What is it you are doing on Windows? Why can't you
do it with Linux or *BSD?
I spend a fair amount of my leasure time on usenet and mail. Linux
seems to do those functions pretty well. I also develop software.
Linux seems to have some pretty good tools for that too. Linux also
seems to have more text processing tools than non-unix type systems.
Also, there is at least one good image processing tool for Linux.
There are also tools for digital signal processing, content
distribution, type setting, data storage and retrieval, network
management, network services, security, data encryption, numerical
analysis, etc, etc, etc.
It seems to me that anything you could possibly want to do on a
computer can be done on Linux. If some feature is missing, the tools
are provided to implement it. Saying that you can't do anything on
Linux is utterly absurd.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:59:58 GMT
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' the problem isn't with the install, it's when you go to remove or
' upgrade. sometimes it's hard (or at least tedious) to figure out what
' all things went where. then when you find a random file, you wonder
' where it came from. rpm doesn't really solve the shared config
' tweaks very well (like editing an init script to set something up
' while leaving setup for other stuff). rpm is clunky and sometimes a
' pain in the ass, but it's not completely useless to me.
It should be possible to automate some dependency and file use
information with a script, ldd, and possibly some other utilities that
can figure out what names are passed to a dlopen() call. Basicly,
take a census of all the file information based on the files
themselves rather than relying on some spec file to be set up
correctly.
When you find some random file, you should be able to find out what,
if anything, references it. If nothing references it, then you should
be able to garbage collect it.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: M. Beranek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian 2.1 Linuxbox won't ping my other Linuxbox
Date: 23 May 2000 23:27:22 +0200
mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
[...]
> I don't now where the various config files are for the network
> in Debian. The the file that I know of is /etc/networks. I don't
Hi,
on my Debian2.1 the whole network-stuff is located in /etc/init.d/network.
Add something like
route add -host 10.0.0.3 eth0
(or whatever IP your second machine has) to this file.
Hope this helps,
Marcus
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Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:04:10 GMT
On Tue, 23 May 2000 16:20:23 +0200, Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It was the Tue, 23 May 2000 08:59:59 GMT...
>...and David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The right is non-exlusive. That means everyone can get that right. I
>> think TrollTech is just trying to prevent forking of the Qt library
>> here.
>
>Exactly that is which is bad IMHO. Real software freedom has always
>been the freedom to fork.
Common communications standards should be free to propagate
on their own onto any and every platform that has users that
care to communicate.
Also, a 'compatibility standard' becomes more valuable the more
people that use it. I've always thought that Troll would be
better served with a lib that was given away to all but devtools
that EVERYONE would be willing to pay for.
--
In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
a document? --Les Mikesell / | \
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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