Linux-Misc Digest #573, Volume #27                Mon, 9 Apr 01 21:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  bell south ("jack wallen")
  Re: Printer Daemon. (Michael Heiming)
  Re: breaking up large files into smaller pieces? (Omar Stoltzfus)
  Re: Is there a front end to the /etc/group file? (Michael Heiming)
  Re: breaking up large files into smaller pieces? (Troy Loveday)
  Re: A Linux emulator for Linux, does this exist? (George Round)
  Re: Command to get linux version ("Brian Schwarz")
  Re: /opt vs. /usr/local (Frank Ranner)
  Re: You Linux people are unbelievably stupid. ("joseph")
  Re: Printer Daemon. (Mike Eggleston)
  Re: Reinstalling Win98 on a dual boot system ("joseph")
  Re: Two frustrating Samba problems... ("Hiawatha Bray")
  Re: syslog.conf question ("Garry Knight")
  Re: use of fips and 12-bit FAT ("Garry Knight")
  configure mouse
  Red Hat 7.0 can not see hard hard drive during install
  Re: Two frustrating Samba problems... ("Hiawatha Bray")
  bootup hangs at nfs file locking services ("Robert")
  Re: Is there a front end to the /etc/group file? (John Hasler)
  Re: Is there a front end to the /etc/group file? (Dances With Crows)

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From: "jack wallen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bell south
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:18:27 GMT

has anyone been able to get bell south to work with linux?  i currently
have had an @home connection for nearly two years and am going to move.
unfortunately the @home service has had a meltdown in our area and are
allow next to no new connections.  

if anyone's managed to get bell south to work with Linux could you fill
me in on what kind of hardware you were given and if there were any
tricks you had to pull off?

thanks in advance

jack wallen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:21:17 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printer Daemon.

Mike Eggleston wrote:
> 
> I can't get the LPD printer daemon to start.  I'm running Red Hat Linux
> release 5.2 Kernel 2.0.36 on a 486.  I can print (from root) by
> directing output directly to /dev/lp0 but when I try
> 
>  lpc start all
> 
> it returns with
> 
> lp:
>         printing enabled
> lpc: connect: Connection refused
>         couldn't start daemon
> 
> I thought it might have something to do with permissions but I've
> compared everything I can think of with another machine (with lpd
> running) and everything seems the same. I can't find anything in my
> Linux books ("Running Linux" and "Linux in a Nutshell") about this
> error.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Mike

You perhaps need to start lpd, sounds as if it would not run?

Michael Heiming

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From: Omar Stoltzfus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: breaking up large files into smaller pieces?
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:23:07 GMT

Peter Bismuti wrote:

> I want to backup a file that is several gigabytes onto CDR.  I vaguely
> remember there being a unix program that will chop up files into smaller
> chunks and then reassemble them.  Can anyone tell me what the name of that
> program is?
>
> Thanks

try split.

I'd be more specific, but its been years since I actually used it.


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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:26:11 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a front end to the /etc/group file?

User wrote:
> 
> Is there a front end program that is used for adding members to a group?

The prefered way is to use vi, but some distros may have some tools, Ie.
SuSE --> yast.

Michael Heiming

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From: Troy Loveday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: breaking up large files into smaller pieces?
Date: 9 Apr 2001 23:09:11 GMT

Peter Bismuti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I want to backup a file that is several gigabytes onto CDR.  I vaguely 
>remember there being a unix program that will chop up files into smaller
>chunks and then reassemble them.  Can anyone tell me what the name of that
>program is?

split(1)

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Troy Loveday                                         e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ASIC Product Development / DTM                          vox: (214) 480-1497
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Dallas, Texas                   "Don't Tread On Me!"

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
From: George Round <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Linux emulator for Linux, does this exist?
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:34:20 -0500

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>       I am searching for a Linux emulator for Linux. Does such
>       a beast exist? I think this could be useful for System
>       developement, without needing to have more than 1 powerful
>       computer for programming and testing.

You are probably looking for User mode LInux:
http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net
It uses a file on the host system as its root device.  I have used it to
try out quite a few distributions with out having to re-install every
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From: "Brian Schwarz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Command to get linux version
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:46:14 -0700

> > What command should I use to get linux version?
> uname -a

if you're looking for the Linux kernel version, try:
cat /dev/version



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From: Frank Ranner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /opt vs. /usr/local
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:47:48 +1000

Francois Labreque wrote:
> 
> Why do some packages install themselves in /opt while others go in
> /usr/local?
> 
> I assume this is for hysterical reasons, but I'd like to know.
> 
The main advantage of /opt is that it collects all the read-only
components of a package into
a single point. This means you can have a server with a directory
/opt/bigpackage that is
NFS exported. On your workstation you can have an empty directory,
/opt/bigpackage which
NFS-mounts from the server. Machine specific config information would be
stored on your workstation in 
/etc/opt/bigpackage, while user specific configs would be in your home
directory, in file 
.bigpackagerc or directory .bigpackage.

The File System Standard goes into the layout, but doesn't mention the
NFS aspect above. I can't 
remember where I read about that.

Regards, Frank Ranner

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From: "joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: You Linux people are unbelievably stupid.
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:57:23 -0400

A world readable , writable and executable mail spool.
I wonder which enterprising lad or lass  would care to get root on such a
system...

Did you figure out why it works when you change the permissions, and why it
fails to work with default permissions?

Those people who write howto's ( contrary to what may have been said )
atleast find out a few things before venturing out to write such documents.
The least you could do is to back up your claim with some information on the
how and the why of it, before spewing forth disparaging remarks about
someone else's work.The people who write those howto's are those that
"volunteer". Nobody pays them.

Nobody said that Linux was a clickety-goo ( Gee, like, wow! ) <puke> system.
Learn it, understand it, and if you have something, contribute.  Else ask
(nicely) and one may find a lot of helpful people ready to assist you.

Sorry, Mr. Storm , but it appears that you are the unbelievably
uncomprehending one.





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From: Mike Eggleston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printer Daemon.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:54:31 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Heiming
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Mike Eggleston wrote:
>> 
>> I can't get the LPD printer daemon to start.  I'm running Red Hat Linux
>> release 5.2 Kernel 2.0.36 on a 486.  I can print (from root) by
>> directing output directly to /dev/lp0 but when I try
>> 
>>  lpc start all
>> 
>> it returns with
>> 
>> lp:
>>         printing enabled
>> lpc: connect: Connection refused
>>         couldn't start daemon
>> 
>> I thought it might have something to do with permissions but I've
>> compared everything I can think of with another machine (with lpd
>> running) and everything seems the same. I can't find anything in my
>> Linux books ("Running Linux" and "Linux in a Nutshell") about this
>> error.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Mike
>
>You perhaps need to start lpd, sounds as if it would not run?
>
>Michael Heiming

If by 'start lpd' you mean simply calling lpd as a command, I tried
that.  If I have something in the queue, it prints but then the daemon
stops.  'lpc status' reports 'no daemon present' but 'ps ax' shows lpd
and the lock file (/var/spool/lpd/lp/lock) has the process ID of lpd but
if I put something else in the queue it doesn't print.

It's annoying because I have the same version of Linux on two machines -
a 486 and a 700MHx Pentium.  Both are Linux only.  I want to use the 486
as a printer server so I've set up remote printers on the Pentium. The
lpd daemon runs OK there (lpc status reports 'waiting for queue to be
enabled on scribe (the 486)) but it won't run on the 486.

I'm new to Linux although I've been working with other Operating Systems
for over twenty years.  First on mainframes then on mid-range.  The
first mainframe I worked on had 120 Mega Bytes of disk (Wow!) and memory
was measured in K.  We even used 'punched cards' - you might have seen
these in a museum.

I like Linux but it does seem a little reluctant to give much away.  Can
you tell me what 'connection refused' means when reported by lpd (as
above)?

Thanks for taking the time to answer.
Mike

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From: "joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Reinstalling Win98 on a dual boot system
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:06:59 -0400

Make a boot disk for your linux system.

mkbootdisk I think is the command.
confirm that you can boot with said boot disk.

Install windows .
It will boot and be the only os on the computer ( apparently).
stick your boot floppy in, boot.
let the lilo on the floppy boot the os.
then follow the lilo howto to add a windows option to lilo.

run lilo.
reboot with out the boot disk.



bye


"Pi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Roger Levy wrote:
> >
> > Okay, I run a dual-boot RH7.0/Win98 system on a single harddrive
> > (FIPS-partitioned Windows/boot/swap/Linux), and boot with LILO.  I seem
to
> > have screwed up something important on the Windows side so I'm planning
on
> > reinstalling Windows.  However I seem to remember that this can be
> > dangerous for the Linux system.  In particular I seem to recall that
LILO
> > can get cavalierly wiped out during a Windows reinstall, but I can't
find
> > any hard information on the topic..  Anyone have experience with this
> > and/or know what I need to watch out for?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any advice.
> >
> > Roger Levy
>
>
> Could ya not use the DOS software that comes on the RH CD to back up the
> MBR, then restore it?



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From: "Hiawatha Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Two frustrating Samba problems...
Date: 10 Apr 2001 00:18:04 GMT

I don't get it.  The replies should crosspost too, unless you tell them
otherwise.  So it should work the same way.  Each reply appears in several
newsgroups, but only one copy is stored on the server.  So there's no extra
bandwidth load...right?


"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hiawatha Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > By the way, why should I not crosspost?  Saves bandwidth, dunnit?
>
> If you don't count the replies ...
>
> peter



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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: syslog.conf question
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:29:14 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Dan Smith"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How can I configure my syslog.conf to have the ipchains packet log
> information sent to another file?

I've been wondering this, too. And it got me poking around in Robert
Zeigler's book "Linux Firewalls". But more about that later...

Right now, this is my syslog.conf:
> 
> # Log all kernel messages to the console. # Logging much else clutters
> up the screen. kern.*                                                 
>/var/log/kernmsg
[snip unnecessary bits]

> It seems that the line that says kern.* should take care of it, but
> the packet log information still shows up in my /var/log/messages
> file.

Well, it seems like you're kind of on the right track. The above line
says to log *all* kernel messages to /var/log/kernmsg. And you only
want to catch the 'info' messages.

Here's what Robert has to say:

"Individually matched packets are logged as kern.info messages for
firewall rules that have the -l option set. Most of the IP packet
header fields are reported when a packet matches a rule with logging
enabled. Firewall log messages are written to /var/log/messages and the
console by default.

"You could duplicate the firewall log messages to a different file by
creating a new log file and adding a line to /etc/syslog.conf:
  kern.info     /var/log/fwlog

"All kernel messages are directed to the console and to
/var/log/messages as well,. When booted, the kernel doesn't generate
many informational messages other than firewall log messages."

So, I'm going to add the above line to my /etc/syslog.conf and see what
happens. Maybe you'd like to try it out too. My guess is that
/var/log/fwlog has to exist and be owned by root. Then you'll need to
restart logging with "/etc/rc.d/init.d/syslog restart".

By the way, on my system (Mandrake 7.2), kern.info messages are sent to
/var/log/kernel/info with the line:
  kern.=debug;kern.=info;kern.=notice -/var/log/kerne\l/info
but /var/log/kernel/info seems to contain a lot more than just firewall
logging messages.

By the way, if your syslog.conf says:
  kern.*        /var/log/kernmsg
then you'll probably want to direct various types of kern messages to
different files with something like:
  kern.=debug;kern.=info;kern.=notice  -/var/log/kerninfo
  kern.=warn                           -/var/log/kernwarn
  kern.err                              /var/log/kernerr

-- 
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: use of fips and 12-bit FAT
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:29:18 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Roger Levy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just got a new Seagate hard drive and am trying to partition it with
> FIPS.  I formatted the drive under Win98 with software that came with
> the harddrive.
> 
> I get the error, though, that FIPS cannot partition a 12-bit FAT
> table. Does anyone know what might be going on?  Should I try and
> reformat the drive directly from Windows first?

If I were you I'd format it as a FAT32 drive. Both Win98 and Linux can
read and write to FAT32 partitions. And rather than using FIPS, and in
the absence of Partition Magic, I'd use Ranish Partition Manager
<URL: http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/>

-- 
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: configure mouse
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:30:07 -0000

sir,
i have tried to configure my mouse while installing Red Hat Linux7.0 .I 
have a Microsoft 2-button mouse.During installation i opted for 2-button 
Generic mouse.But still it is not working .It did once just once .Please 
tell me what to do.

--
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http://www.help.com/

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Red Hat 7.0 can not see hard hard drive during install
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:30:25 -0000

I am installing Red Hat 7 and when it gets to choose the type of install 
and click next then it says that there is no place to install linux.  My 
bios doesnt see my hard drives but they are there in windows.  I have a 
60gig WD hard disk partioned to two 27.9gigs.  I would like to try Linux.


Thanks for any help.

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http://www.help.com/

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From: "Hiawatha Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Two frustrating Samba problems...
Date: 10 Apr 2001 00:35:25 GMT

Okay...I tried your suggestions.  I still see the Linux box as an icon in
Network Neighborhood.  But when I click on it I get a window with the title
"No page to display."  What else should I try?


"Michael Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On 09 Apr 2001 02:07:20 GMT, Hiawatha Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But I have Samba.  I've even got it running.  I can see my Linux
computer on
> > my Windows box, but I can't actually access any of the files.  That's my
> > problem...
> >
> >
> Please stop crossposting!  To get samba working, you need to decide how
you
> want to share files/directories.  Do you want to share a home directory?
> How is samba setup?  Is it setup to do user level security?  If so, create
a
> user with smbpasswd -a nameofuser that is equal to the user you create on
> the windows box.  Select to use encrypted passwords.  Look at how the
> default smb.conf shares your home.  Decide if you want an additional share
> created and do it.  Visit samba.org and view the smb.conf pages to get an
> idea about how to do things.
>
> You want to make sure you have this in the global options of your
smb.conf:
>
>  security = user
>  workgroup = WORKGROUP (or whatever you want here as long as its the same
on
> both systems)
>   encrypt passwords = yes
>
> Here is my home share:
>
> [homes]
>    comment = Home Directories
>    browseable = yes
>    read only = no
>    create mask = 0775*
>    directory mask = 0775*
>
> *this creates the ability for groups to read and write to the shared
> diretory.
>
> Here is my /projects share from the same system:
>
> [projects]
>    comment = Workstuff
>    browseable = yes
>    path = /projects
>    writable = yes
>
> Here is my zip drive share from the same system:
>
> [zip]
>    comment = zip drive
>    writable = yes
>    path = /zip
>    preexec = /bin/mount /zip
>    postexec = /bin/umount /zip
>
> Make the changes you need and restart samba.  Go to the win98 box and
login
> with the user you created which mirrors the one you added with smbpasswd
and
> you should be close.  Note that the zip drive share also will work with
> other media like cdroms.
>
> --
> Michael Perry
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -------------------



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From: "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bootup hangs at nfs file locking services
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:55:42 -0400

Hi,
In an attempt to streamline startup processes I disabled nfs file locking
(read it would be ok in a how-to somewhere).  Now my bootup hangs at
"starting nfs file locking services"  then goes to "RPC: sendmsg returned
error 101" , "portmap: server localhost not responding timed out" and stops
there.  Obviously I should not have disabled it, or should have also
disabled something else.  (the article said if I wasn't using a network I
shouldn't need it).
How can I change the nfs filelocking service to start again?  (unable to
boot but I can get to text console using safe mode or whatever the linux
equiv. is called.)
For someone commandline challenged like myself the easy way would have been
to use the instalation disk (mk7.2) in expert mode and  enable it again but
in the meantime I have discovered the disk is cracked and non-functional.
Challenge: can someone help me before I finish downloading mk7.2 iso on a
56k modem? (that gives a leaway of about 4 days).
many thanks,
Robert




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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a front end to the /etc/group file?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:08:27 GMT

User wrote: 
> Is there a front end program that is used for adding members to a group?

What distribution?  With Debian it's just 'adduser username groupname'.
With other distributions it's probably simplest to use vigr.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Is there a front end to the /etc/group file?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10 Apr 2001 01:02:41 GMT

On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:32:44 -0500, User staggered into the Black Sun
and said:
>Is there a front end program that is used for adding members to a
>group?

linuxconf, YaST, DrakConf, COAS ....  These front-ends are
distro-specific, and the format of /etc/group is easy enough to
understand that it's probably easier to use a text editor to do it.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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