Linux-Misc Digest #573, Volume #25 Sat, 26 Aug 00 21:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Bug in dynamic linker (Charles Ju)
Chicony Notebook w/ Cardbus, CD-RW, Nikon Coolscan, etc. - Which Lunix???
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Terminal prog for linux (Slip Gun)
Dell PowerEdge 1300 / RAID1 / AIC7890 ("Dan Trainor")
Re: Help for newbie stuck with linux boot floppy (Tom Pfeifer)
Re: W2K and Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Bash: a simple question (Richard Kimber)
Re: multisession CD-Rom (Wolfram)
Advice sought, (new user coming from OS/2) (Robert Morelli)
Re: Reiserfs (Rod Smith)
Re: linux/apache/php/mysql setup (paul simdars)
realaudio 7: launches, but doesn't play. (Yeoh Yiu)
Re: Reiserfs (Christopher Browne)
Re: Terminal prog for linux (John Todd)
Re: Terminal prog for linux (Grant Edwards)
Re: Terminal prog for linux (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Powered by LINUX (MerefBast)
Re: Borland C++ for Linux ("Mr. Ed")
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:18:50 -0400
From: Charles Ju <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Bug in dynamic linker
Hi,
I have the following error when I tried to run an executable:
$ magrt -n mag1
BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dl-version.c: 210: _dl_check_map_versions:
Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed!
$
Can someone tell me how to fix this?
Regards,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Chicony Notebook w/ Cardbus, CD-RW, Nikon Coolscan, etc. - Which Lunix???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 22:22:05 GMT
I have a notebook with 2 hard drives (11 gig) and use Cardbus cards for Token
Ring, Modem, SCSI and Ethernet access. Also have a Yamaha CD-RW, Nikon
Coolscan III, Scanner using USB, a USB printer, etc. 96 megs of RAM.
Which Linux will install easiest for the above environment AND coexist with
Win98 or WinME?
HELP
Bob
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From: Slip Gun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Terminal prog for linux
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:01:34 +0000
Hi,
Back in the days of Win 3.1, there was a program called terminal.exe
which allowed you to talk to your modem and dial into bbs's. Could
someone give me the name of a good 'terminal' program for linux? Any
help appreciated.
Cheers,
Ed
--
Those who trade away their privacy in favour of security will soon find
that they have neither.
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From: "Dan Trainor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dell PowerEdge 1300 / RAID1 / AIC7890
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 16:09:57 -0700
Hello
Today, I tried to update the kernel from the default RH6.2 kernel
(2.2.14-50) to 2.2.16. Everything went fine during the compile and install,
and I got no errors, which really baffels me. WHen I tried rebooting with
that new kernel, it almost gets done loading, but then stalls with this
error message:
request_module[block-major-8]: Root fs not mounted
VFS: Cannot open root device 8:01
Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 8:01
I have never seen this message before. Some things that might be causing it
are... well, the machine is a Dell PowerEdge 1300 server. I am using a
Hardware RAID1 setup that makes one 9.1g logical drive. I am using an
AIC7890 controller, as well. I think that it's trying to look for the other
drives, even though they're not actually there. I am totally stuck - is
there anyone who might be able to assist me? A prompt response would be
appreciated, for I would like to leave the office a bit early today ;P
TIA
--
Dan Trainor
Systems Administrator
Concept Factory, Inc.
www.concept-factory.com
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From: Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help for newbie stuck with linux boot floppy
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:09:36 GMT
Leonard Evens wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Thank you,....i will tried it!!
> >
> > TongEng Chiah wrote:
> >
> > > i think ur hardisk is bigger than 8.4Mb, and linux may have problem
> > > accessing beyond 1024 cylinders.
> > >
> > > to solve the problem, boot up using ur floppy
> > > edit the file /etc/lilo.conf
> > >
> > > there should be a option linear in the file, change it to lba32
> > > if not, just added lba32 in
> > > after that, do a
> > > /sbin/lilo
> > >
> > > reboot after that.
> > >
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Hi, any help appreciated.......
> > > >
> > > > I'm currently using Gentus Linux GPL v3.0 with a dual Celeron ABIT BP-6
> > > > motherboard. I am using a boot floppy to boot into the system. My
> > > > regular LILO gets stuck at LI....and died. I'm using ATA66 harddisks
> > > > (and they are detected properly once we pass the initial boot sequence),
> > > > and i believe the kernel is already specially compiled in the CD to run
> > > > with ATA66.
> > > >
> > > > Am I missing something? There is also a problem when i use upgrade
> > > > option in the Gentus CD to upgrade to a higher version Linux(such as
> > > > from Gentus v1.0 to Gentus v3.0). It always get stuck, i suspect the
> > > > installer was unable to properly read the harddisk geometry.....and i
> > > > have to install as fresh. :-(
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for any help.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Damon
> > > >
> > > > P.S. - Gentus distro is very similar to RedHat distro(actually i
> > > > believe it's exactly alike except with kernel compiled to handle UDMA
> > > > and some other special drivers).
>
> For the lba32 option to work, you have to be sure you have the
> latest version of lilo. There is a good chance your distribution
> didn't come with that version.
>
Yes, and just to be more specific, Lilo v21.4 and later support the
lba32 option, while v21.3 and earlier do not. The most recent version is
21.5 I believe.
Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: W2K and Linux
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:16:41 GMT
So you mean that you were ignorant until a few months ago ?
I know alot of people that are very good technicaly but have
been focused on Windows. I wouldn't say that they are ignorant
becasue they have been focused on the Windows platform, after
all that is what people have been paid to know/support.
Companies have trained the staff on the windows enviroment
and to do it all over again is costly.
You can't say that Linux is as easy as Windows and most people
just want to use the tools that are presented and don't give
a sh-t was underneeth.
Right or wrong that is how it is.
I'm not pro Windows, I like Linux.
There is alot of OS that are better than Windows, e.g. OS/2 is
in many ways superior to Windows but the lack of applications
has more or less killed it (last I checked).
As a Server OS I find Linux excellent, as a Client....well I
would say it depends on the knowledge of the users and the
applications that is to be used.
I would recommend people to try Linux but to call people ignorant
for not want or can try Linux is a bit too much, I think.
/Fredrik
In article <8o8o26$nq6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've used NT for 4 years. I thought W2K would obliterate Linux when it
> came out. After using W2K for several months, I thought I'd give Linux
> a try...
> After three weeks of using Linux, I realize the following:
> Using windows is like putting a puzzle together with oven mits on.
> Windows users aren't stupid, they're ignorant, there is a difference.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kimber)
Subject: Bash: a simple question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:43:56 GMT
In tcsh, if I type
echo hello"\012"there
I get
hello
there
In bash, if I do the same, I get
hello\012there
I may have misunderstood the bash man page, but I thought it should do the
same as in the tcsh.
So, in bash, how do I get the same result? I tried using \n but that didn't
work either.
- Richard.
--
Richard Kimber
( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
Political Science Resources
http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/
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From: Wolfram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: multisession CD-Rom
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:04:33 +0200
Hi there,
well, it's a SCSI CD-Burner, but I currently only want to read CDs.
It always reads the first session only.
Using Win98 and Gear-Software I have written these CDs on the
same device, which NEVER failed to burn a CD. Within Win98
there is no problem to read all content (means the last session).
Wolfram
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:16:14 -0400
From: Robert Morelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Advice sought, (new user coming from OS/2)
I've been toying with Linux on and off for a while, but my primary OS has been OS/2.
It seems that with 2.4 coming soon, and new versions of GNOME and XEmacs, Linux
might finally be reaching a stage where it's attractive to me as my primary OS. I'd
appreciate any advice on the following points, from anyone (but perhaps ex OS/2
users might have some special insights).
Note: I've decided to use GNOME as my desktop environment. No flames please. I'll
entertain suggestions otherwise if there is a compelling technical reason to do so in
the
context of the questions below but again, please no flames.
1. I currently have a 300 mb partition devoted exclusively to the OS/2 system
(together with
the Java JDK). I keep all my applications and data on a separate partition. For
Linux,
a. how much disk space is needed for the base system
b. what is the most reasonable way to separate applications and data from the base
OS. For instance,
would it make sense to put /home and /usr on their own partition as a way to
acheive that?
2. Is it feasible to use an HPFS partition for data and/or Linux applications during
a transition
period? What sorts of performance and reliability issues would I have to deal
with?
Would that complicate backing up?
3. Is there a transparent way of dealing with the text file end-of-line difference
between OS/2
(which is like Windows) and Linux (which is like UNIX)? I will probably be using
XEmacs as
my text editor.
4. Is there a Linux equivalent to extended attributes. Under OS/2 I use extended
attributes,
among other things, to store descriptions of files that have cryptic names. My
file manager
can automatically display those descriptions. (HPFS has long filenames, but
there are cases
where it's not appropriate to change a file name to something descriptive).
5. The FM/2 file manager I use under OS/2 seems to be more customizable and more
powerful
in some ways than anything I've ever seen under Linux (or any other OS). For
instance, you
can create custom toolbars with custom command bindings and you can switch
between multiple
toolbars while it's running. The default file manager that comes with GNOME
seems to be a far
cry from FM/2. Perhaps I'm wrong on this point, or perhaps there's something
else available
out there. Advice appreciated.
6. OS/2 runs fine on an old P90 laptop with 40 MB of ram. I've tried running Linux
on such a
machine but Linux (running GNOME) seems to require more horsepower. I won't
give up GNOME.
Are there optimizations that would make this machine usable? I also have a P166
with 64 MB
of ram. Even that seems strained by Linux with GNOME. Same question for this
machine.
7. I've been running a mail client called PMMail. There is also a Win32 version of
PMMail but I
know of no plans for Linux support. Is anyone aware of tools available for
converting a
PMMail mail archive to an appropriate Linux format? (I can't be the only one
making this
transition.)
8. At this time I reluctantly plan to use XEmacs as my text editor. I am reluctant
because of
the conflict (which I don't quite understand) with the FSF, and also because of
the
crudeness of the user interface of XEmacs. FSF Emacs seems to be out of the
question right
now because of its antideluvian user interface. Under OS/2, I use the editor
(EPM) that
ships with OS/2. EPM combines the programmability of Emacs with a decent GUI
interface.
For instance, can I easily customize the XEmacs toolbar? (With EPM I can do
neat things
like have an icon with my daughter's face that calls up a diary I keep of her.)
I'd love to
find an editor with the following characteristics:
a. GPL or equivalent license
b. decent modern GUI (preferably GNOME aware)
c. Emacs keybindings
d. powerful programmability
e. available packages to compiling TeX
f. available packages to support programming in common languages like Java
and perl
9. To my surprise, I've had severe stability problems in the past running
Linux-Mandrake 6.0 and
6.1. I was flamed in another group for even inquiring about this problem.
Typically I can
only boot a few times before the system actually stops even booting. I've had
better
stability with Caldera OpenLinux -- I've had OpenLinux partitions on two
computers that
still boot even after occasional use for a period of several months. Is anyone
aware of a
specific problem with Linux-Mandrake (possibly related to having OS/2 on the
machine)?
10. I've also had application level stability problems. For instance, if I
inadvertently
simultaneously open too many applications. Linux tends to freeze up. OS/2 has
very good
multitasking. I can for instance double click on a slew of large postscript and
dvi files
all at once and the views will all come up happily at once. Under Linux, doing
something
like that seems to result in a system freeze. Another sort of problem is that
Linux
applications seem to sometimes go haywire. For instance, I tried once to
create a GIMP
canvass with (ridiculously) large dimensions. Over 100 error dialogue boxes
appeared on
the screen in succession and then the system froze. (Unfortunately, at the
time I was
attempting to show off Linux to a Windows user.)
I guess I'd like to know 2 things. a) OS/2 has very good multitasking. I've
heard claims
to the same effect about Linux, but my personal experience so far doesn't
confirm them.
Do I need to take special care to avoid taxing Linux's multitasking abilities?
Will this
situation improve with 2.4? (Is anyone here honest enough to address this
question without
flames?) b) Where can I get a good summary of techniques for Linux crash
recovery and
disaster recovery?
Any and all suggestions appreciated.
Robert Morelli
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Reiserfs
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:12:54 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Kichi Leung would say:
>
> I would think a journalling filesystem would be even _more_ useful,
> if that be possible, for the home user with somewhat flakey hardware,
> no UPS, and questionable power integrity.
A big company running an important server or other production
environment probably needs it more, in the sense that they can lose
thousands of dollars, if not more, per hour of downtime, and a big
server could conceivably be down that long doing its fsck thing after a
crash. The impact on Joe Blow home user of downtime due to an fsck
after a crash or power outage is comparatively minor; such a person can
boot the system, watch "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," and come back to a
working system.
>>If you are curious, go ahead and install it. Even if you aren't, go ahead and
>>install it anyway. A good thing about reiserfs is that it allows your
>>partitions to get away with less damage after a crash (if that ever occurs).
...
> The problem is that ReiserFS is _still_ not an _official_ part of the
> Linux kernel tree.
FWIW, I recently compiled a 2.4.0-test6 kernel with both ReiserFS and
JFS support. I've tried both on some Zip disks. JFS is still pretty
flaky (it's got serious case-sensitivity issues, for instance).
ReiserFS seemed a bit more stable in my initial tests, so I converted
one system's root partition to ReiserFS. I ended up with more free disk
space (300MB vs. 100MB, on a 1.3GB partition) with ReiserFS, but I had
an odd problem: The system hangs approximately 3 out of 4 boots when
starting crond. I've yet to figure out the cause, although it's clearly
ReiserFS-related because it didn't happen before I converted the
filesystem. I did find a workaround: Start crond from
/etc/rc.d/rc.local rather than via the normal Red Hat 6.2 startup
scripts.
Another comment: ReiserFS's support utilities are pretty immature. I
couldn't get fsck.reiserfs to compile, and the comments in the
appropriate README file don't inspire confidence, even if it had
compiled. (By contrast, JFS's fsck program did compile.) I haven't
tried the resize utility, but in principle anyhow, it looks good. (I'm
a fan of PartitionMagic, which can resize ext2fs partitions.)
Whether or not ReiserFS "should" be part of the official kernel is an
issue I'm not qualified to judge. I can say that the filesystem doesn't
yet seem quite perfect to me, or at least it doesn't integrate perfectly
into my Red Hat 6.2 testbed system. It is usable, though (I've been
running it for about three days, with no apparent glitches after working
around the crond hang). Ultimately, it or another journaling filesystem
will become the standard in Linux. (There's a review of the four major
contenders at http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue55/florido.html.)
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:21:13 -0500
From: paul simdars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: linux/apache/php/mysql setup
Jeff Davis wrote:
> I have been through a similar process. Can you be a little more specific
> about you problem and errors?
>
> in RH6.1, I think you use:
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd start
> or replace start with restart or stop.
>
> For more help, I will need to know something more than 'the apache server
> no longer runs'. Specific error messages and problems you have would be
> most helpful.
>
> Regards,
> Jeff Davis
>
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Well, the command above was correct (. . . ./httpd restart). And your
suggestion regarding more info was good. I looked in the log file. I had
just assumed it was not running because when I typed in my localhost name it
said it could not find that URL. But it is running according to the log and
also 'ps' shows that it is running. So, looking at the following error_log
entries, I realise that I have put this reference into httpd.conf and
srm.conf.
In httpd.conf it is DocumentRoot /home/httpd/htdocs.
It is the same in srm.conf. If this is wrong, what do you think it should
be.
Here is what was in the log file.
[Sat Aug 26 19:05:35 2000] [error] [client 192.168.1.107] File does not
exist: /home/httpd/html/htdocs/
[Sat Aug 26 19:09:15 2000] [error] [client 192.168.1.107] File does not
exist: /home/httpd/html/htdocs/
[Sat Aug 26 19:09:20 2000] [error] [client 192.168.1.107] File does not
exist: /home/httpd/html/htdocs/
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From: Yeoh Yiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: realaudio 7: launches, but doesn't play.
Date: 26 Aug 2000 20:25:34 -0400
Does RealAudio Player 7 give useful error messages
when for some reason it can't work ?
I have realaudio player 7 on RedHat 6.2.
I installed the realaudio via rmp, and associated it
with .ram, .ra in Netscape 4.7 .
When I see an URL for a realaudio source, I
click on it in Netscape, and realaudio launches.
Good.
But usually, clicking on a realaudio link just launches the ra player,
which plays a generic 2.2 second _welcome_ xylophone tune. The
message bar never says "buffering" and the actual sound I hear is the
generic _welcome_.
Some sites which don't work:
http://whyy.org/rameta/FA/FA20000614_40.ram on
http://whyy.org/cgi-bin/FAshowretrieve.cgi?2902
http://tm.intervu.net/template/smirror/ivtemplates/kqed/kqed_rl_ss.ram on
http://www.kqed.org/fm/whatson/live.html
netradio.com works well, so I know my realaudio player
and sound card etc work well. Netradio's links are of the
form, "javascript: openit(); so I'm not aware what file name/format
is actually working.
I notice in my Netscape/Applications that for files of type RealAudio I use
application /usr/X11R6/bin/realplayer but for all other audio types I use
application "/usr/lib/RealPlayer7/realplay %u" but I don't know
what to make of it.
So, Does RealAudio Player 7 give useful error messages
when for some reason it can't work ? Why does it play the
_welcome_ when it should play a radio station ?
YY
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Reiserfs
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:44:43 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Rod Smith would say:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
>> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Kichi Leung would say:
>>
>> I would think a journalling filesystem would be even _more_ useful,
>> if that be possible, for the home user with somewhat flakey hardware,
>> no UPS, and questionable power integrity.
>
>A big company running an important server or other production
>environment probably needs it more, in the sense that they can lose
>thousands of dollars, if not more, per hour of downtime, and a big
>server could conceivably be down that long doing its fsck thing after a
>crash. The impact on Joe Blow home user of downtime due to an fsck
>after a crash or power outage is comparatively minor; such a person can
>boot the system, watch "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," and come back to a
>working system.
I don't disagree with the notion that there is a "big value" benefit
from journalling for "enterprise" systems; the point is that in the
world where kids occasionally put jelly sandwiches into VCRs, and
people sometimes power down their PC when they are done with it, there
is _definite_ benefit to being able to cope with this gracefully.
Multiply out the number of people, and the aggregate value may be greater
to the numerous "jelly sandwich" folk than to the less numerous "big
important servers."
It may be "enterprise folk" that effectively pay for it, but I see
journalling being of great benefit if Linux gets deployed more amongst
those that would say, "Huh??? What does fsck mean???"
>>>If you are curious, go ahead and install it. Even if you aren't, go ahead and
>>>install it anyway. A good thing about reiserfs is that it allows your
>>>partitions to get away with less damage after a crash (if that ever occurs).
>...
>> The problem is that ReiserFS is _still_ not an _official_ part of the
>> Linux kernel tree.
>
>FWIW, I recently compiled a 2.4.0-test6 kernel with both ReiserFS and
>JFS support. I've tried both on some Zip disks. JFS is still pretty
>flaky (it's got serious case-sensitivity issues, for instance).
>ReiserFS seemed a bit more stable in my initial tests, so I converted
>one system's root partition to ReiserFS. I ended up with more free disk
>space (300MB vs. 100MB, on a 1.3GB partition) with ReiserFS, but I had
>an odd problem: The system hangs approximately 3 out of 4 boots when
>starting crond. I've yet to figure out the cause, although it's clearly
>ReiserFS-related because it didn't happen before I converted the
>filesystem. I did find a workaround: Start crond from
>/etc/rc.d/rc.local rather than via the normal Red Hat 6.2 startup
>scripts.
>
>Another comment: ReiserFS's support utilities are pretty immature. I
>couldn't get fsck.reiserfs to compile, and the comments in the
>appropriate README file don't inspire confidence, even if it had
>compiled. (By contrast, JFS's fsck program did compile.) I haven't
>tried the resize utility, but in principle anyhow, it looks good. (I'm
>a fan of PartitionMagic, which can resize ext2fs partitions.)
The fsck isn't likely to be terribly useful; if things have gotten
so broken that it's needed, things are likely so broken that a bunch
of data will be corrupbed...
>Whether or not ReiserFS "should" be part of the official kernel is an
>issue I'm not qualified to judge. I can say that the filesystem doesn't
>yet seem quite perfect to me, or at least it doesn't integrate perfectly
>into my Red Hat 6.2 testbed system. It is usable, though (I've been
>running it for about three days, with no apparent glitches after working
>around the crond hang). Ultimately, it or another journaling filesystem
>will become the standard in Linux. (There's a review of the four major
>contenders at http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue55/florido.html.)
I hope something will head in pretty soon.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
"Linux and other OSS advocates are making a progressively more
credible argument that OSS software is at least as robust -- if not
more -- than commercial alternatives." - Microsoft lamenting Open
Source Software in the "Halloween Document"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Todd)
Subject: Re: Terminal prog for linux
Date: 26 Aug 2000 23:52:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
minicom -s
and of course, man minicom
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:01:34 +0000, Slip Gun
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>Back in the days of Win 3.1, there was a program called terminal.exe
>which allowed you to talk to your modem and dial into bbs's. Could
>someone give me the name of a good 'terminal' program for linux? Any
>help appreciated.
>Cheers,
>Ed
>--
>Those who trade away their privacy in favour of security will soon find
>that they have neither.
--
_____________________
The lap of Linuxury
|<de in RH6
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Terminal prog for linux
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:55:30 GMT
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:01:34 +0000, Slip Gun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Back in the days of Win 3.1, there was a program called terminal.exe
>which allowed you to talk to your modem and dial into bbs's. Could
>someone give me the name of a good 'terminal' program for linux? Any
>help appreciated.
I've always prefered Kermit, but due to licensing problems,
it's no longer distributed with most Linux systems. IMHO,
Columbia's licensing policy has almost killed Kermit.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! They don't hire
at PERSONAL PINHEADS,
visi.com Mr. Toad!
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Subject: Re: Terminal prog for linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 01:00:28 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards) writes:
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:01:34 +0000, Slip Gun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
> >Back in the days of Win 3.1, there was a program called terminal.exe
> >which allowed you to talk to your modem and dial into bbs's. Could
> >someone give me the name of a good 'terminal' program for linux? Any
> >help appreciated.
>
> I've always prefered Kermit, but due to licensing problems,
> it's no longer distributed with most Linux systems. IMHO,
> Columbia's licensing policy has almost killed Kermit.
<snip>
The latest version of Kermit has a license which permits using and
redistribution of the software with open source operating systems. But
I guess in the mind of some, this is still not an acceptable license.
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MerefBast)
Subject: Powered by LINUX
Date: 27 Aug 2000 01:02:46 GMT
Hi.
I am putting together a comparison list of which major
businesses and organizations use which operating systems for
their web servers (at
<http://www.OperatingSystems.net/system/internet/internet.htm>.
So, I am asking for fans or users of Linux
to provide verifiable accounts of businesses or organizations that
use Linux for their web servers. Verifiable means
something such as a URL to a web page on their site that says
"powered by..." or e-mail from the web master or other employee
of the business or organization. Major means easily and widely
recognizeable businesses or organizations.
Please send a courtesy copy of your information to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
Thanks...
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From: "Mr. Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Borland C++ for Linux
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:07:43 -0500
> Stuart Mika Hankel wrote:
>
> Hello. Does anyone know of a version for Linux for development in C? I mean
> an environment for debugging, like Borland C++ for DOS.
> Thanks
>
> Stuart
>
You can try the GNU C++ compiler and the UPS debugger.
There is also the Code Crusader editor that has an integrated debugger add-on.
They're all free off the Web.
Mr. Ed
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