Linux-Misc Digest #672, Volume #24                Thu, 1 Jun 00 07:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  again LIL- Probs ("Karsten Roemke Zi. 209 PIB")
  Linux file/print server for mac DTP network (Alex)
  Linux file/print server for mac DTP network (Alex)
  mail client for linux to sort incomming messages based on sender email? (billy@--)
  Re: again LIL- Probs ("Karsten Roemke Zi. 209 PIB")
  Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: (What about the compiler?) (Stephen E. 
Halpin)
  Re: using chmod -R on directories  only (Neil)
  Re: mail client for linux to sort incomming messages based on sender  (Mark Hagger)
  "Webcheck" widget (Tom Winch)
  Re: mail client for linux to sort incomming messages based on sender email? (Henrik 
Becker)
  Re: shutdown.allow (Thomas Luzat)
  what else whacked with "modprobe --autoclean"? (Jimmy Navarro)
  Re: Slow reponse to http, ftp and telnet  (Stearns25)
  Re: mail client for linux to sort incomming messages based on sender email? 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Help: Logging into Linux from Windows 98 PC ("Ng, Choon Hooi")
  Re: mail client for linux to sort incomming messages based on sender (Chris Lowth)
  Re: Help: Logging into Linux from Windows 98 PC (Miguel Rodriguez Penabad)
  Zip for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Black and white Netscape ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: gnome 1.2 menu bar ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: *.doc viewer? (Chris Boyd)
  Re: Black and white Netscape (Andreas Kahari)
  Re: Enlightenment Icons (Marc D. Williams)
  Re: GNOME newsgroups? (Marc D. Williams)
  Re: mounting ide-scsi device (John)

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From: "Karsten Roemke Zi. 209 PIB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: again LIL- Probs
Date: 1 Jun 2000 08:10:07 GMT

Hello!

I have a problem with LILO which I don't find in any
documentation - more exactly I don't find a
solution neither in docs nor in a newsgroup article.
I installed two Linux distributions SUse and Debian.
Both have their own lilo:
Debian: in /dev/hda5
Suse    in /dev/hda4
both are logical Partitions in the extended /dev/hda3
I use a bootmanager (xfdisk) which manages this.
Both logical partions
are below 1024 zylinders (the extended partition
covers the whole disk space)  

After doing really nothing (a few days ago I recompiled
the kernel but booting worked after that)
I can't run the debian-system. I get the error-message
LIL-
Yes I know what this means but I don't know what to do.

I reinstalled the lilo from Suse by doing a chroot /DebianRoot
where I mounted the partion, I added LINEAR, always the
same error.

Any ideas?

Some help would be very nice

          karsten
                             

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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux file/print server for mac DTP network
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 08:30:10 GMT

Hi,
 I have trouble make'ing the netatalk software, and there doesn't seem tobe
much support for it. I am trying to get a reliable Linux file and print
server for a mac based desktop publishing network, but to no avail.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Maybe I could use a native Linux file /
print system and have the appropriate client software on the Mac side?
Or is netatalk the way to go?
Thanks,
Alex

--
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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux file/print server for mac DTP network
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 08:30:10 GMT

Hi,
 I have trouble make'ing the netatalk software, and there doesn't seem tobe
much support for it. I am trying to get a reliable Linux file and print
server for a mac based desktop publishing network, but to no avail.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Maybe I could use a native Linux file /
print system and have the appropriate client software on the Mac side?
Or is netatalk the way to go?
Thanks,
Alex

--
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From: billy@--
Subject: mail client for linux to sort incomming messages based on sender email?
Date: 1 Jun 2000 00:50:44 -0700


greetigs;

is there an email client on Linux, that I can setit such that
email comming from certain email address is written to specific
local mail folder?  I am using pop3 (ISP), and I subscribe to some mailing
lists that can be very busy, and it will be great if when I download
new email, mail messages will be written to diffeent local mail fodlers
based on sender email automatically (of course I have to configure
it to do so).  

if not, at least I'd like to be able to select messages and tell it
to send those to this mail folder...

currently I use netscape for email, but it does not have such a feature.

thanks,

bill


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From: "Karsten Roemke Zi. 209 PIB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: again LIL- Probs
Date: 1 Jun 2000 08:52:41 GMT

Karsten Roemke Zi. 209 PIB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hello!

: I have a problem with LILO which I don't find in any
: documentation - more exactly I don't find a
: solution neither in docs nor in a newsgroup article.
: I installed two Linux distributions SUse and Debian.
: Both have their own lilo:
: Debian: in /dev/hda5
: Suse    in /dev/hda4

Can't believe it! I'm so stupid...
I have the entry boot=/dev/hda3 in my lilo.conf and so I think it
was just good luck that my Bootmanager found the lilo at 
/dev/hda5.
changing to boot=/dev/hda5 leads to working boot behaviour.
Is this possible ?  - seems so. I don't know how an extended
disk is organized so I guess that this was the problem.

I hope nobody has wasted (?) his time with my question.

karsten

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen E. Halpin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: (What about the compiler?)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 08:59:47 GMT

On Wed, 31 May 2000 15:58:31 GMT, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 31 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> designs is to have lots of registers.  When they used a Compaq compiler
>> that really knew how to take advantage of the RISC design, it worked a lot
>> better.  I don't know much about the SPARC architecture, but it's RISC
>> isn't it?  Perhaps the same rules apply.
>
>Yes, SPARC is RISC.  And gcc has well know performance on SPARC, compared
>to Sun's compiler - probably for the reasons you cite.
>
>The GNU price is right, but if you want the best performance, you've got
>to buy a decent compiler.  I chuckle when I see Sun shops with some big
>expensive servers, trying to compile their apps using gcc.  If they can
>afford the expensive hardware, they should be able to afford a decent compiler!
>
>(Although ideally, it'd be nice if Sun sold their development software for
>the same price as the OS...  :-))

Pushing the price down to that of a whole new workstation
would be a good start...

>--
>Rich Teer
>
>NT tries to do almost everything UNIX does, but fails - miserably.
>
>The use of Windoze cripples the mind; its use should, therefore, be
>regarded as a criminal offence.  (With apologies to Edsger W. Dijkstra)
>
>If it ain't analogue, it ain't music.
>
>Voice: +1 (250) 763-6205
>WWW: www.rite-group.com

-Steve

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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: using chmod -R on directories  only
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:01:03 +0100

On 31 May 2000 17:43:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti) wrote:

>How can I use chmod -R and specify either directories only or
>files only?  I just the mistake (again) of executing a 
>chmod -R 644 and changed all the directories as well by mistake..

find . -type d | xargs chmod ....

chmod -R is just about the most dangerous command in linux/linux aside from rf
-fr .... so go easy especially if you are user root.

For directories. For files, man find .... I can't remember the file type off
hand.



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From: Mark Hagger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail client for linux to sort incomming messages based on sender 
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 09:59:07 +0100

billy@-- wrote:

> is there an email client on Linux, that I can setit such that
> email comming from certain email address is written to specific

> 
> currently I use netscape for email, but it does not have such a feature.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> bill

No doubt this will be ones of many replies, but yes netscape mail _can_
do this, try looking at the
"filters" from the "Edit" menu this will do _exactly_ what you are
talking about.

Mark

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From: Tom Winch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Webcheck" widget
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:07:26 +0100

I have just developed a new "desktop assistant" widget (called Webcheck)
to help you find relevant information from the Web. It's written using
gtk and has been tested on a box running Red Hat 6.1 with the Gnome
window manager. It works with KDE and WindowMaker too. You can download
it from:

http://www.webtop.com/webcheck/linuxdownload

The idea is you highlight some text (in any window) and then click on
the widget, which posts the text to the Webtop search engine (maintained
by my colleagues and I; see http://www.webtop.com), which then returns
relevant search results. The advantage over typing into a search box is
that you can highlight whole paragraphs of text and not have to figure
out the best search words.

It'd be great if people could check it out and make comments as this is
really only an early beta version. We've set up a news group
news://nntp.webtop.com/webtop.discuss so comments could be posted there.

Cheers,
Tom

=========
Tom Winch, Webtop
http://www.webtop.com



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From: Henrik Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail client for linux to sort incomming messages based on sender email?
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:03:09 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

billy@-- wrote:
> 
> is there an email client on Linux, that I can setit such that
> email comming from certain email address is written to specific
> local mail folder?  I am using pop3 (ISP), and I subscribe to some mailing
> lists that can be very busy, and it will be great if when I download
> new email, mail messages will be written to diffeent local mail fodlers
> based on sender email automatically (of course I have to configure
> it to do so).  

kmail, mutt

-- 

Henrik Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://www.HenrikBecker.de

  Palm Pilot unter Linux: http://www.henrikbecker.de/jpilot
  

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From: Thomas Luzat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: shutdown.allow
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 11:19:41 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 28 May 2000 04:19:06 +0200, Thomas Luzat
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I've got the following problem with shutdown:
>
>I want to allow root and other users I added to shutdown.allow a
>reboot with ctrl-alt-del. Hence I created the necessary entries in
>/etc/inittab and /etc/shutdown.allow. /etc/shutdown.allow contains the
>following line:
>
>test
>
>test is the only user besides root which should be allowed to do a
>reboot by pressing ctrl-alt-del. Now 'shutdown -t 1 -a -r now' doesn't
>seem to workt. It doesn't seem to matter whether root or test is
>logged in, all the time I get the following message:
>
>shutdown: no authorized users logged in
>
>or something like that. Have I missed something? Maybe it's gotta do
>something with /var/run/utmp?

I downloaded gdb and found out, that the getutent() calls returned for
example /dev/tty0 while info states, that getutent() will only return
tty0! As shutdown added an /dev/ to the name it didn't work correctly.
On many systems agetty might be called (in /etc/inittab) like this:

agetty tty0 9600

or something similar. This works. But...

agetty /dev/tty0 9600

does not work. Bah... I fixed it by changing /dev/tty0 to tty0, but
someone else might want to remove the append of the /dev/ from
shutdown.c... I'm not sure about the security implications of that.


Thomas

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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: what else whacked with "modprobe --autoclean"?
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 02:17:51 -0700

I must have tried almost every Linux in my IBM TP390X modem 2626 F0U
since I bought it but keeping TurboLinux 6.0.2 as my easiest, fastest to
install and configure.  This new laptop has integrated Lucent Winmodem
but I use a Megahertz XJ-CC-4288 33.6 at PCMCIA slot 1 to dial out.  How
come I get persistent error sez "modem busy" whenever the Linksys PCMCIA
Ethercard is present at PCMCIA slot 2?  Also why even without the
Ethernet card at PCMCIA slot 2 on coldstart sez:

May 31 03:12:15 ke6fpk kernel: NET4: Ethernet Bridge 007 for NET4.0
May 31 03:12:15 ke6fpk kernel: early initialization of device brg0 is
deferred
May 31 03:12:15 ke6fpk kernel: brg0: network interface for Ethernet
Bridge 007/NET4.0
May 31 03:12:15 ke6fpk kernel: brg0: generated MAC address
FE:FD:04:8D:83:04
May 31 03:12:15 ke6fpk kernel: brg0: attached to bridge instance 0

The ESS SOLO-1 sound card is not configured but I accidentally launched
CD player from KDE bottom panel tray so I killed the PIDs related to
sounds but I also tried "modprobe --autoclean" afterwards.  Since I hate
that Enlightenment full screen splash with "startx" instead I use "init
5" to quickly login with X after coldboot now sez:

[root@ke6fpk /root]# init 5
INIT: Switching to runlevel: 5
[root@ke6fpk /root]# Starting INET services: xinetd
Loading keymap: Loading /usr/lib/kbd/keytables/us.map.gz

+_)(*&^%$#@! but nothing no X.  What else did I whack with "modprobe
--autoclean"?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stearns25)
Subject: Re: Slow reponse to http, ftp and telnet 
Date: 01 Jun 2000 09:49:02 GMT

Thanks for the suggestions on adjusting the DNS file.  Unfortunately it does
not help.

I think the problem is DNS related if it took   a long to connect to other
ftp/telnet/http sites from my server.

However, the problem with my server is it is very slow in ANSWERING  
ftp/telnet/http requests from other systems.  When I ftp back to this server
from Win98, it takes over 3 minutes for the welcoming message to show up.    Is
DNS involved in answering ftp and telnet requests?

Any other suggestions? My boss is breathing down my neck.   I will try just
about anything logical to fix it fast.  

Thanks.

-Stearns


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mail client for linux to sort incomming messages based on sender email?
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:54:55 +0100
Reply-To: no_replyto@oursite

This message has been posted by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Ewart)

On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:03:09 +0200, Henrik Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>billy@-- wrote:
>> 
>> is there an email client on Linux, that I can setit such that
>> email comming from certain email address is written to specific
>> local mail folder?  I am using pop3 (ISP), and I subscribe to some mailing
>> lists that can be very busy, and it will be great if when I download
>> new email, mail messages will be written to diffeent local mail fodlers
>> based on sender email automatically (of course I have to configure
>> it to do so).  
>
>kmail, mutt

Can't speak for KMail, but Mutt doesn't actually do this itself - the best and
most configurable way of writing filtering rules like this is to use Procmail,
although that may be overkill in this case.  As another poster pointed out, 
Netscape _can_ do basic filtering.

Dave.
-- 
Dave Ewart
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computing Manager
ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK

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From: "Ng, Choon Hooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help: Logging into Linux from Windows 98 PC
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 17:59:10 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One of the free ones i have tried is called MiX (or something like that). I cant
remember the exact name. just do a search. Or u can try out the commecial ones
like OmniX or Exceed. I find Exceed is a lot stable than OmniX.

Before u can connect to the linux server, u have to make sure you Linux is
running X-windows. To do that, you have to make some changes in your inittab
file to tell linux to boot to X-windows. There are some comments in that file
itself, and it is pretty self-explanatory.


Temp wrote:

> Help! I am a thick newbie.
>
> I have installed Suse 6.4 with X-Windows and KDE on an old PC and it works
> fine. It is on a LAN and happily FTPs to other machines on the network. I
> want to be able to log in to applications (such as StarOffice and
> ApplixWare) from a Windows 98 PC, running as a Windows PC (ie not running
> Linux). We currently use NetTerm as a terminal emulator to get from PCs into
> our main SCO UNIX server and this works fine, however it is character based.
>
> Assuming I am utterly stupid and need everything explaining in words of one
> sylable (or less), what do I need to do on Linux to enable log ins from
> Windows PCs (ie, what config files do I have to change on the server, what
> do I have to have running on the PCs?).
>
> Help please!
>
> Regards
>
> Tom Millington
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Chris Lowth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail client for linux to sort incomming messages based on sender
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:02:03 +0100

This is what procmail is for - it sorts messages into folders BEFORE you
run up your client. I use the compination of sendmail, procmail and
pine (All out of the box with redhat).

Chris


On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Mark Hagger wrote:

> billy@-- wrote:
> 
> > is there an email client on Linux, that I can setit such that
> > email comming from certain email address is written to specific
> 
> > 
> > currently I use netscape for email, but it does not have such a feature.
> > 
> > thanks,
> > 
> > bill
> 
> No doubt this will be ones of many replies, but yes netscape mail _can_
> do this, try looking at the
> "filters" from the "Edit" menu this will do _exactly_ what you are
> talking about.
> 
> Mark
> 

-- 
>From Chris Lowth
---
My Real e-mail address is (roughly):
        chris 
        <AT> lowth
        <DOT> com
(Silly over-parnoid anti-spam measure)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miguel Rodriguez Penabad)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help: Logging into Linux from Windows 98 PC
Date: 1 Jun 2000 13:25:38 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ng, Choon Hooi wrote:
>One of the free ones i have tried is called MiX (or something like that). I cant
>remember the exact name. just do a search. Or u can try out the commecial ones
>like OmniX or Exceed. I find Exceed is a lot stable than OmniX.

I don't know Omnix, but Exceed works really fine, at least connecting to
a Sun Solaris workstation.

>
>Before u can connect to the linux server, u have to make sure you Linux is
>running X-windows. To do that, you have to make some changes in your inittab
>file to tell linux to boot to X-windows. There are some comments in that file
>itself, and it is pretty self-explanatory.
>
I think that's not true. At least with solaris (NOT running the X server at
the moment, I can open an X session in a windows box)
Regards,
        Miguel
-- 
=========================================================================
Miguel Rodriguez Penabad                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Laboratorio de Bases de Datos           http://emilia.dc.fi.udc.es/labBD
Facultade de Inform�tica                Universidade da Coru�a (Spain)
Debian 2.1 [2.2.13]                     Usuario Linux 124962
=========================================================================

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Zip for Linux
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:16:46 GMT

Hello,

Where can I find the zip utility for Linux  ?
Please send your reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks


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Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Black and white Netscape
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:18:53 GMT

I resently change my XF86Config file so as
to increase the colour depth from 16 to 24.
But in doing so it has made all the icons
that are used by netscape (i.e the home, back
etc.. buttons) black and white)

I don't have this problem on another computer
I have which is also configured for 24 bit
colour.

The version of netscape I have is 4.72 and
I'm running it on RH6.2.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Cheers


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: gnome 1.2 menu bar
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:26:41 GMT

Now I've got the menu bar up.
How do I configure it?

Cheers


In article <8gshpm$h78$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi, I just installed gnome 1.2 from Helix and it looks really good.
My
> question is that in the screenshots there appeared to be a universal
> menu bar (a la macintosh menu bar) but I don't have one and I can't
find
> an option to enable it.  does anyone knowhow to turn this feature on?
>
> (btw, this is for a linuxppc 2000 system)
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>


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From: Chris Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *.doc viewer?
Date: 1 Jun 2000 10:49:28 GMT

Jan Houtsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi,

: Is there something like a micro$oft.doc viewer for linux?
: I receive lots of mails with .doc attachments and dont wanna
: run staroffice or so because they are beasts!

: I know that at work we have some commercial program that starts
: whenever i click in netscapemail on .doc, excell and ppt files.

If you want to retain some of Word's "formatting", and have LaTeX and
Perl, have a go with Pavel Nygryn's WordToTex:

http://www.fi.muni.cz/~nygryn/w2t/

-- 
Fruit flies like a banana

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Subject: Re: Black and white Netscape
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 1 Jun 2000 12:59:36 +0100

In article <8h5da9$mr0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I resently change my XF86Config file so as
>to increase the colour depth from 16 to 24.
>But in doing so it has made all the icons
>that are used by netscape (i.e the home, back
>etc.. buttons) black and white)
>
>I don't have this problem on another computer
>I have which is also configured for 24 bit
>colour.
>

Did that other computer run the same OS and the same version of
Netscape?

/A


-- 
# Andreas K�h�ri
# All junk e-mail is reported to the
# appropriate authorities, no exceptions.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc D. Williams)
Subject: Re: Enlightenment Icons
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 11:00:37 GMT

On Mon, 29 May 2000 01:17:32 +0200, Beno�t Smith 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I would like to know if it is possible to configure the Enlightenment
>icons in the right-hand side of the screen - their functionalities,
>"coverability", etc...
>
>Thanks for any answer,
>
Those icons or whatever are part of whatever theme it is that you're
using. You'll have to go into that theme's directory and hunt around
those files. Maybe look around for an actions.cfg (some themes
have those where apps are defined).

I remember the ShinyMetal theme having icons on the right but I no
longer get those for some reason.


-- 
>>ANIME SENSHI<<

Marc D. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.oldskool.org/~tvdog/ -- DOS Internet & Tandy 1000
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Platform/8269/ -- Win3.x Makeover

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc D. Williams)
Subject: Re: GNOME newsgroups?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 11:00:40 GMT

On Mon, 29 May 2000 21:52:40 -0700, MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Garry Knight wrote:
>> 
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>> >Anyone know of any GNOME newsgroups?  I found a German group, apparently
>> >inactive, but that was it.
>> 
>> My ISP (Freeserve in the UK) carries the following:
>> 
>> lists.misc.gnome.cvs
>> mailing.gnome.announce
>> mailing.gnome.balsa
>> mailing.gnome.components
>> mailing.gnome.doc
>> mailing.gnome.general
>> mailing.gnome.gnumeric
>> mailing.gnome.gui
>> 
>> --
>> Garry Knight
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Those appear to be mailing lists, not news groups.

Yeah, but they're gatewayed to usenet, that's why he gets them.
If they're available via usenet then it doesn't matter.
Check to see if your ISP also has them.

-- 
>>ANIME SENSHI<<

Marc D. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.oldskool.org/~tvdog/ -- DOS Internet & Tandy 1000
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Platform/8269/ -- Win3.x Makeover

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John)
Subject: Re: mounting ide-scsi device
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 11:01:53 GMT

Thank you all for you help but that stillhave not soloved the problem:

I ran cdrecord's scanbus before I did anything.  cdrecord found the
cd-rw and cd (i have 2 devices).  I isnmod ide-scsi and sg and tried
to mount using mount /dev/sg0 /mnt/cdrom.  I still get the message not
a block device.  I tried to insmod the scsi_mod and sr_mod but they
were not found .

I do have append="hdc=ide-scsi" right before root=/dev/hda5. 

What I don't understand is why cdrecord and find them and use them and
I can't.

In my kernel I have scsi emulation suport as Y and not M
Under scsi support I have scsi support as Y and scsi generic support
as Y and scsi cd-rom support as Y

Under Filesystems I have iso9660 support as M

Last bit of info: I am running RH6.2 w/kernal 2.2.14

Please help.

On 31 May 2000 17:00:51 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances
With Crows) wrote:

>On Wed, 31 May 2000 10:28:30 -0700, Duane 
><<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>[much snippage]
>>insmod ide-scsi
>>insmod sg
>>
>>Also, rather than issue those commands, have you tried putting this into
>>your /etc/conf.modules:
>>
>>options ide-cd ignore=hdc  <- assuming your CD is hdc
>>alias scd0 sg
>
>No.
>
>A CD-ROM is a block device.  The generic SCSI driver is a character
>device.  Take a look at the results of "ls -l /dev/scd0 /dev/sg0" for
>confirmation.  Attempting to use /dev/sg0 as a read-only CD-ROM interface
>will not work-- mount reports "/dev/sg0 is not a block device" which is
>what it should be saying.
>
>The correct module for accessing an IDE-SCSI emulated CD-ROM is sr_mod,
>and the device name is /dev/scd[0-15] depending on how many CD-ROMs you
>have.  /dev/sg[0-15] is used by the sg module, and scanners and CD-R(W)s
>also use it.
>
># insmod ide-scsi       (IDE-SCSI emulation)
># insmod scsi_mod       (if you have SCSI support as a module)
># insmod sr_mod         (SCSI CD-ROM support)
># insmod sg             (SCSI Generic support)
>
>It shouldn't be this difficult-- just put
>alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
>in /etc/conf.modules, and the right stuff should get probed automatically
>when you try to access /dev/scd0 or /dev/sg0, assuming you've passed
>"hdX=ide-scsi" to the kernel at boot time.
>
>-- 
>Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| You have me mixed up with more
>There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| creative ways of being stupid?
>But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Beer is a vegetable.  WinNT
>(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL


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