Linux-Misc Digest #766, Volume #24 Fri, 9 Jun 00 21:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: >>>>------------------------------->> Linux Configuration (Tom Hoffmann)
Re: how to import outlook mail into netscape mail? (Robie Basak)
Re: I want to switch to Linux - Please Help (Robie Basak)
Re: Capturing ifo into log file (Robie Basak)
Re: Xconf and IBM Thinkpad (Gabor Takacs)
Re: Linux uses lots of memory? (Steve Lamb)
Re: sorry ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
HP tape backup question (id)
Kernel configuation is broken ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
WIDESPREAD INCOMPETENCE AT BELL ATLANTIC ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: *>>>>------------------------------->> Linux Configuration* (Greg Chavez)
Re: FAT and Linux? (Greg Chavez)
Re: compiling and installing (Greg Chavez)
fatal IO error 12 (not enough space) on X server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Diskette duplication--exactly (Dances With Crows)
Re: Cut and Paste in Linux/KDE.... (JEDIDIAH)
PhotoCD reading software (David Steuber)
Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true???? (Stephen E. Halpin)
Re: democracy? (Smitty)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Hoffmann)
Subject: Re: >>>>------------------------------->> Linux Configuration
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 22:57:27 GMT
>is it possible to reset all the configurations that have been programmed
>and restore all the defaults? If So how? thanks.
If you were good and always kept the previous versions of your
configuration files as you modified them ... yes. However, this is
pretty obvious, and the fact that you are asking this question makes me
think you did not do that ... so, the only way I know is to reinstall.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: how to import outlook mail into netscape mail?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 Jun 2000 18:18:10 GMT
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 13:28:44 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>This message has been posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Ewart)
>
>On 9 Jun 2000 11:39:52 GMT, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Jonas Bieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>: does anybody know if and how i can import outlook express 5.0 mails into
>>
>>Mmm .. maybe convert them into standard mail format and then just let
>>netscape read them as normal?
>>
>>: linux netscape messenger 4.73?
>>
>>I suspect that your question should be to the outlook newsgroups "how
>>can I export mail in standard mail folder format"? I have no idea what
>>outlooks native format is. If it's text you may have some luck with
>>"formail" on unix to reformat it properly. If it's a binary database,
>>you need to attack it with a chisel and forceps.
>
>There is a program called "oe2mbx" which converts OE5 folders to standard
>MBX format - look for it on http://www.freshmeat.net/ or, if you're
>really desperate, email me back and I'll send it to you - the source is
>only a few K in size ...
>
>I have used the program - it seems to work very well.
Didn't work for me at all :-(
I've decided never again to use an email client which cannot export
mail as a standard (text) format - either mbox or maildir or similar.
Robie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: I want to switch to Linux - Please Help
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 Jun 2000 18:28:27 GMT
On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 05:04:12 GMT, Kent A. Signorini said:
>I've been contemplating a full switchover to Linux on my home PC but have
>been reluctant due to some things I've seen with some test installs I've
>done and also not having some questions answered. I'm tired of my current
>OS crashing and I need someone to answer these final questions before I take
>the plunge. Please e-mail me your responses if possible. Thanks in
>advance. Some of these questions are techie and some are philosophical, but
>here goes:
>
>1 & 2) Which is a better desktop environment to use, GNOME or KDE, and why?
Install both and decide for yourself.
>3 & 4) I've installed RH 6.2 with both GNOME and KDE and found that the
>graphical sign-on screen defaults to GNOME. Is it possible to change the
>default to KDE? And also, how would I change the GNOME logo on the sign-on
>screen to reflect KDE if I go that way?
Yes.
[snip]
>6) What would you suggest as replacement Linux app's for:
Check out http://freshmeat.net
> MS-Office 97 (I have many documents with complex drawing elements on
>them -- lines/boxes/etc. done in Word97)
I use xfig/vi/latex - though you may prefer Staroffice or Applix or
something.
> Photoshop
The Gimp.
> Allaire Homesite (for html editing)
Netscape, Toppage, there are others (I use vi).
> Thumbs Plus
> WinRAR
Never heard of them.
> Winamp
mpg123
> GetRight
wget, or Downloader for X, or caitoo
> a good FTP client (I'm sure there is no shortage of these)
ncftp
> a RealPlayer
realplayer
> a VIVO player
No idea what that is
> an mpg player
> a DVD player
Look around for a file called dvd-munitions.tar.gz (IIRC). Shouldn't
be too difficult to find.
> CD-burning software for data and music
cdrecord
>7) Is Netscape the only good browser in Linux? I'm partial to IE5 because
>it handles pages better then Netscape (IMHO) and has more features. I
>design web sites part-time and need to be able to see both types of
>extensions.
Mozilla looks nice. There's also kfm, amaya (as someone else
mentioned). Konqueror is also nice.
>8 & 9) I've installed my current setup in 1024x768x16m and find that the
>fonts on web pages in Netscape for Linux show up much smaller than using
>Netscape or IE in Windows 98. Why? How can I fix this without going to
>800x600?
Change the font sizes in Netscape, or see the font-deuglification
HOWTO (as someone else mentioned at http://linuxdoc.org)
>10) Is there any problem using VFAT drives full-time while in Linux? My
>wife has a large amount of data already on a VFAT drive and I would hate to
>have to convert it to ext2.
No. Convert? You just copy it across!
>11) Is RH 6.2 a good choice for a distribution? I've looked at Corel Linux
>running at a store and it's a very clean desktop compared to the RH 6.2
>installed one but I think it's based on Debian and I'm not sure if RH is
>better or what.
If a distribution was 'better', then no-one would use the others!
>12) Has anyone used VMWARE and does it work well?
No, but it works well apparantely.
>13) How about WINE?
I've heard that someone managed to run Total Annihilation perfectly on
it. I've done Jedi Knight and notepad myself :-)
>14) What is the maximum size for an ext2 partition? I tried to create a
>10GB
>"/" partition on my HD and it wouldn't let me go past 8GB during a RH 6.2
>install.
The root partition should never be that big. You'll never hit the
limit of the size of an ext2 partition, at least not soon.
>15) Is there anything else I should know?????
42.
Robie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Capturing ifo into log file
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 Jun 2000 18:35:39 GMT
!!!
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000 15:19:48 +0800, sysnet said:
>I need help in configuring the apache web server to capture certain
>information into the log file . The info that I have to capture are
>
>- the users screen colour depth (example : 256 colour , 16 bit)
>- screen resolution
>- screen size
And how do you propose to convice the naiive users' browsers to send
this information?
>- country
Reverse DNS lookups may help to some extent, see the documentation to
see how to enable this.
>- log in time of user
The time of hits is logged in any case. If you want to know when the
user logged in to their own system, see my first comment.
>- type of browser used (with type of version)
>- type of platform (os)
These may be provided in the User-Agent request line of the browser -
see the documentation to see how to log this.
>Is there any way of doing this . I know that it had to be configured in the
>httpd.config file if i'm not mistaken , but I don't know the command line to
>do it . Anyway the server runs on Linux 2.2.6 . Please help I'm still new to
>this and confused.
Robie.
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From: Gabor Takacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Xconf and IBM Thinkpad
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 23:15:06 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Re: Thinkpad 770z, RH 6.0. After going thru the xconf program many
> times, the following error occurs:
> "Config error: /root/XF86Config: 208
> Protocol "null"
> Mouse type not supported by this OS
> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server
> shutdown).
> The mouse is a PS/2, but this IS a laptop...
> All the video settings are fine, the video card is on the HCL for RH6.
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> dave
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
The error says: Protocol "null"
You shold specify PS2 for the mouse.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Linux uses lots of memory?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 23:36:18 GMT
On 9 Jun 2000 19:21:17 GMT, J Bland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This is a really cool way of saving around 50% of memory compared to an
>xterm. I've never noticed any real loss of functionality between the two.
Not to mention with rxvt you have a reasonable expectation of being able
to do color whereas with xterm on any given platform you do not.
>As always, it entirely depends on what you want to do.
Right. While I agree with the points you made the original statement was
that X wasn't functional in anything under, uhm, 32Mb of RAM (or was it 64Mb)
to which I pointed out that it most certainly is depending on your definition
of functional. Functional in most cases to me is icewm and multiple rxvts.
This allows me to do a /lot/ of things I cannot do on multiple ttys with any
reasonable expectation. Now, if someone is expecting to open up Star Office
and Netscape in, say, KDE to be "functional" then, yes, 64Mb of RAM would be
required. However, that view, as applied in this thread, ignores the fact
that people can, and do, work in X without loads of GUI applications open.
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sorry
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 18:48:54 -0500
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, kana_krishna wrote:
+ sorry for sendind in the empty mail .It was a mistake
What you sent is not a 'mail', this is Usenet, you
post to it, and read from it. You do not 'mail'
to it. If my suspicions are correct, you would benefit
greatly from visiting news.announce.new-users and reading
RFC 1855.
Best Wishes!
anm
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| Andrew N. McGuire |
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From: id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP tape backup question
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 23:38:20 GMT
hey fellow gurus.
Got RH6.1 on a Pentium system with loads o' RAM here at work. Earlier in
the week, I installed an Adaptec 2940UW Pro SCSI controller in it, and
plugged in an external HP C1537A tape backup drive.
A bit about the drive: it's a catridge system ... each cartridge holds 6
tapes, the 6th being a cleaning tape of some kind.
Anyhow, everything seems to be working okay so far (using Taper).
Trouble is, if a backup exceeds the 2GB limit on the tape, we have to
manually tell the HP to change to a new tape. Obviously this isn't the
ideal situation ... we're hoping for a solution where we can tell this
HP to cycle the tapes on its own without manual intervention.
Any ideas?
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Kernel configuation is broken
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 23:54:02 GMT
After getting 2.2.15 compiled and installed I have noticed that I am
getting:
/lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/sound.o: unresolved symbol isa_dma_bridge_buggy
messages when trying to load my sound card drivers. I have attributed
this to being something missing when I configure the Kernel with PCI
Quirks. If I shut that off. No problem, When its on Wham here comes the
unresolved symbol. I'm going to try to work around it by Installing the
kernel with the PCI Quirks and using the older modules in
/lib/mocules/2.2.15 that were made without the PCI Quirks setting. This
seems to be working without problems at the moment but it is a bit
disconserning using modules and kernel that were made with diffrent
configurations.
Someone got some input as to what define is missing? This should be
fixed, but I don't have enough time to go hunting myself
jollyroger
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WIDESPREAD INCOMPETENCE AT BELL ATLANTIC
Date: 9 Jun 2000 23:42:33 GMT
Friday, June 9, 2000
-
It would seem that in every category of service BA offers, there are a
whole lot of unhappy customers. With the possible exception of
voice-only service, BA has littered the Internet with consumer
horror stories.
-
Let's take DSL for example... You need only spend a little time
in COMP.DCOM.XDSL to learn that this is a service that BA is just
not in a position to support and should probably not be offering at all.
Network availability is abysmal (less than 50% for some people); as
evidenced by last weeks' outage, where major parts of the mid-Atlantic and
northeast were without DSL service for 72 hours and longer.
Multiple subscribers report calling into tech support, only to
be told that there were no reported problems with the network.
Could anything be more frustrating?
-
It also appears that BA is not at all committed to staffing their
tech support and customer service lines with properly trained,
articulate, informed and technically capable individuals.
It's as though these people were simply grabbed off the street and
required to man the helpdesk phones - like conscripts into some
rag-tag militia.
-
Perhaps the US Government should take a look at Bell Atlantic in
much the same way it's currently looking at Microsoft, with a similar
remedy in mind.
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From: Greg Chavez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *>>>>------------------------------->> Linux Configuration*
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 00:30:07 GMT
Best way....reinstall Linux. Back up your files first!
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From: Greg Chavez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FAT and Linux?
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 00:30:06 GMT
Redhat should have no problem reading your disk, just insert and mount the
drive. If Linux gives a read error...try the console and type
"mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy"
you then should be able to browse to the /mnt/floppy directory folder and
view your files.
Good luck!
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From: Greg Chavez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: compiling and installing
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 00:30:09 GMT
Check out
http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Software-Building-HOWTO-1.html
I found this to be very useful in compiling stuff.
Good luck!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: fatal IO error 12 (not enough space) on X server
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 00:26:09 GMT
I get this error message everytime I try and update this application via
it's X app window.
Can someone give me a clue on where to start looking?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Diskette duplication--exactly
Date: 09 Jun 2000 20:53:43 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 22:50:45 GMT, Vilmos Soti
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>"Lee Tien Huat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> How to duplicate a diskette exactly--including everything--disk format,
>> timpstamps, file, label ...
>dd if=/def/fd0 of=floppy.image
>However, you can also use
>cat /dev/fd0 > floppy.image
Minor points: If the floppy isn't formatted in the "normal" 1.4M way,
problems may arise if you dd using /dev/fd0. For a 1.7M floppy, use
/dev/fd0u1722, for a 720K floppy, use /dev/fd0h720. Also, using dd is
preferable to cat, because you can set the block size in dd.
dd if=/dev/fd0h1440 of=floppy.raw bs=18k
is going to be quicker than "cat" since the block size is set to "1
track," which is pretty much optimal for a normal 1.4M floppy.
If this is really really important, use fdformat to check the destination
disk for bad sectors. fdformat catches errors that mkfs -c doesn't.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Cut and Paste in Linux/KDE....
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 00:55:43 GMT
On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 22:24:24 GMT, The Almighty One <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>there are only 2 buttons - no center button ... for most users ... again - the
Chording works well enough for the 3rd button. Some of the Win32
Xservers support this as well.
>ease of use of M$ global clipboarding ... would be a big thing if Linux GUI's
>supported this ... K or G or others ... doesn't matter ... gotta get it in place
There is a global clipboard, even more global and consistent than
the one in Windows. It's just limited in what it can clip. While
that's certainly an issue, one would hope that any subsequent X
clipboard wouldn't be limited merely to it's Windows counterpart
in terms of design and features.
(IOW, the Win32 clipboard could stand some improvement as well)
>so users can start to get familiar with it and make it like M$ which users are
>familiar with ... they can overlook/ignore a lot that they are not familiar with
>but the basics such as ease of install/configuration/support MUST be addressed or
>Linux will never fly ... global things must be immediately included or there w
You mean like being able to pop up a shiny happy configuration tool,
or being able to pop up a windows-esque component install dialog,
or being able to install an app with a shiny happy install script
dumping plenty of eye candy to the desktop, or having the system
automatically detect new devices and then run the appropriate
configuration utility?
[deletia]
...been done already.
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Subject: PhotoCD reading software
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 01:00:01 GMT
I'm looking for a simple program for linux that can properly read and
export PhotoCD files.
Even better would be a GIMP plugin that works with v 1.1.7.
I mostly want to be able to read the high resolution version of the
image and save it on disk in a format that I can then work on with
GIMP.
Any favorites?
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NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen E. Halpin)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true????
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 01:05:29 GMT
On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 16:35:40 GMT, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Stephen E. Halpin wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 07 Jun 2000 04:23:07 GMT, "Toaster Tester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >I have read a few comparision of Intel vs. RISC processor and they tend to
>> >come up the same. For integer instructions on similar MHZ CPUs Intel and
>> >RISC are usually even. Where Intel loses big is floating point
>> >instructions, RISC runs circles around Intel on floating point.
>>
>> It depends on what you are doing, and which RISC. The shipping 300MHz
>> MIPS parts, 450MHz UltraSPARC IIs and the PowerPCs are all slower than
>> the 1GHz Pentium III for the SPECfp95 and SPECfp2000 tasks, and even
>> the 440MHz 8600 PA-RISC part in the N4000 is slower on SPECfp2000_base.
>
>I'll not argue with this, but note that the original poster said
>"... on similar MHZ CPUs ...". I wouldn't call 450 MHz "similar" to
>1 GHz at all: it's more than double!
>
>I don't know, but how does Intel @ 450 MHz compare to the other processors
>AT THE SAME CLOCK RATE? My guess would be similar integer performance,
>and worse FP performance.
The statement "RISC runs circles around Intel on floating point"
wasnt qualified. As for "the same clock rate", a quick scan of my
Dell catalog reveals no desktop systems available at speeds as
slow as 450MHz.. To me that says its a moot point to compare
at the same clock rate when Suns fastest processors dont clock
at as fast as Dells slowest desktops ($799 buys a fully configured
Dell 667MHz PIII system with a monitor and fast ethernet adapter,
compared to $5,500 for the 450MHz UltraSPARC II module (computer,
memory, disk, monitor and software sold seperately. Ack.))
>--
>Rich Teer
>
>NT tries to do almost everything UNIX does, but fails - miserably.
>
>The use of Windoze cripples the mind; its use should, therefore, be
>regarded as a criminal offence. (With apologies to Edsger W. Dijkstra)
>
>If it ain't analogue, it ain't music.
>
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>WWW: www.rite-group.com
-Steve
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From: Smitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: democracy?
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 21:00:25 -0400
Mark Wilden wrote:
> Salvador Peralta wrote:
> >
> > let's remember that the United States is not now, nor has it ever been a
> > democracy.
>
> Yes it is. It's a representative democracy. The people do rule, through
> their elected officials (in theory, at least).
You are misinformed on that point, Mark. Please refer to the U.S.
Constitution and the legal definitions of republic and democracy.
Smitty
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