Linux-Misc Digest #792, Volume #24               Mon, 12 Jun 00 13:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Trying to set up router/DHCP server (Dumouchel Clermont)
  Re: ISO image ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  JDK on Linux RH 6.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Missing characters in Netscape pages (Christopher Wong)
  Re: Help configuring KSamba ("Mun Yip")
  Re: uninstalling linux (Leonard Evens)
  Re: formating a hard disk? (Leonard Evens)
  limitation of processes? (Nikodemus Karlsson)
  NFS config (sleddog)
  Re: Linux Partition: Primary or Logical? (Leonard Evens)
  Re: Linux USB support ! (aflinsch)
  Re: Help configuring KSamba ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Problem with certain rpms (Praedor Tempus)
  Re: Missing characters in Netscape pages (Dances With Crows)
  Re: vote on MS split-up (JEDIDIAH)
  Re: Totalling CPU time per user? (OldUncleMe)
  Re: change ctime (John Hunter)
  Re: Kernel loadable modules... (Pete Zaitcev)
  problem with rh6.2/nt dual boot ("Tom Dorgan")
  Anti-Virus for Linux?   Firewall Software? ("Larry")

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From: Dumouchel Clermont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trying to set up router/DHCP server
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:12:44 -0500

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You need to read about "MASQUERADE" --  try this link

http://www.redhat.com/mirrors/LDP/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX-3.html#ss3.1

you will find all the HOWTO -- read NET3-4.HOWTO,  and all the firewall
howto

Hope this help

D.C.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ok....this is what I'm trying to do:
>
> I've got a linux box, 2 windows boxes, a 4-port hub, and a cable
> modem.  I have 2 NICs in my linux box.  What I want to is link one of
> the NICs to the cable modem and another to the HUB (does this need to
> go in the uplink port?).  Then I want to hook my 2 windows machines and
> be able to reach the internet through my linux box.  Well, it is my
> understanding that all I need to do is compile the Linux kernel to
> support IP Forwarding.  Is this the right assumption?  Well, I cant
> seem to find the file where I need to set that.  I'm using the 2.2.14
> kernel (the one that comes with Redhat 6.2).  If someone could prove my
> assumption right, point me to a resource that will tell me how to
> acomplish my goal, or tell me what I need to do I would appreciate your
> help.
>
> Thanks,
> The Linux Newb.
>
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> Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ISO image
Date: 12 Jun 2000 11:01:51 -0400

>>Is it somehow possible to extract the contents of this ISO image so that
>>I would see the contents as if this CD, from which the image was ripped,
>>was mounted somewhere in my filesystem? In other words, is there any way
>>to somehow "unpack" it to a normal directory tree?
>
>Yes, as root run:
>
>       mount -t iso9660 -o loop image.iso /mnt/MOUNT_POINT
>
>Then, you'll be able to browse the contents as though it was a disk or CD.
>Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

    Does anyone know if it's possible to mount an iso image, like above
read-write I tried all the -o rw combos with no luck? I have a CD-R that is a
little too large to fit on a CD-RW and I want to selectively trim out files
from different directories. I'm thinking that this could be easier than using
mkisofs to selectively take what I want or copying the whole CD onto the hard
drive and then deleting what I want and THEN creating an iso.


                                                           Thanks                      
                                          -John


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: JDK on Linux RH 6.2
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:21:58 GMT

Hello all,

Is anyone know a good site, newsgroups, aticleq...
talking about JDK 1.6.x or later installation on Linux
RedHat 6.2.

Thanks,

Ould


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Before you buy.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Wong)
Subject: Missing characters in Netscape pages
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:27:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

When browsing the web with Netscape or kfm, I often come across pages
where some characters do not display in the browser. I would see a '?'
or some other generic placeholder depending on the font I am
using. The undisplayed characters are generally punctuation characters
such as quotes. I usually use Microsoft's TrueType fonts when
browsing. This is probably a well-known problem, so I would appreciate
it if someone could point me to a document explaining the problem and
work-arounds. Thanks in advance.

Chris


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From: "Mun Yip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,jaring.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help configuring KSamba
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:42:54 +0800

sorry!! it is basically files not found even though the files exist in the
directory!!

Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8i1v6j$ibf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.misc Mun Yip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : I can't get KSamba to run!!! there are errors while trying to use the
make
> : and make install command!!!
>
> That's ice. Do you feel like showing us these errors, or are you going
> to leave us to intuit or telepath them?
>
> : Can't anyone tell me what i need to do? Do i need to configure samba b4
> : using KSamba?
> : Please input
>
> Please output.
>
> (I suspect you ned to install make and/or the c compiler plus some qt
> and kde development files and tools on your system).
>
> Peter



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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: uninstalling linux
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:25:50 -0500

Edo wrote:
> 
> I've installed red hat 6.2 on a partition created with fips. Now i have two
> partitions, one for windows 98 and one for red hat. I made a boot disk and
> didn't install LILO.
> Now i would like to get a bigger hard disk for linux and keep my old hard
> disk completely dedicated to win without losing any data.
> How can i uninstall linux from my hard drive without losing any windows data
> and get back the whole hard disk dedicated to windows?
> I thought I can use disk druid to get rid of linux partitions and then?
> The free space can be dedicated to the old windows partitions without
> reformatting?
> Or it's better leaving it as free space and then using restorrb from fips?
> Thanks!

I would recommend installing Linux on your new disk, copying
any user files you want to keep from the old Linux partition
on the first disk, and then using fdisk (from the new Linux)
to delete the old partition.   Then run fdisk from you Windows
98 partition and create a second Windows partition on the
first disk.   You could with enough effort resize the windows
partiton to the whole disk, but in my opinion it is not worth
the effort.   Having two windows partitions won't significantly
interfere with anything you want to do, and there are good
reasons for having more than one Windows partitions anyway.
-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: formating a hard disk?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:33:03 -0500

madhero wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to know how to format a hard disk if i only have linux on
> it... i want it to be completely empty, to be able to install windows
> on the hrad disk again..
> 
> any help would be appreciated,
> 
> thx
> 
> paul
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Surely Microsoft should be able to tell you how to install
Windows on a computer. :-)
-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Nikodemus Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: limitation of processes?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:57:36 +0100

I played with fork(). Placed in a loop, the new processes started another processes 
and so on. 
The sysetm became inusable, of course, and I had to switch the power off.
Is there any way to limit the number of processes currently running for a user?

Bye
Nikodemus
-- 

*****************************************

Nikodemus Karlsson,                      
Teacher in mathematics and science    

*****************************************

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sleddog)
Subject: NFS config
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:58:23 GMT

Trying to setup NFS beween two linux machines, both RH 6.0, kernel
2.2.16. Been reading the NFS HOWTO plus man pages, books, but can
figure out this problem.

When I do rpc.nfsd or /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start I get an error:
  
  nfssvc: Function not implemented
  
NFS filesystem system is compiled in the kernels, portmapper is
started, mountd is started, one directory is setup as an export on one
machine. What am I missing?

Thanks,


-- 
sleddog

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Partition: Primary or Logical?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:41:42 -0500

Forrest Gehrke wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I want to partition an IBM ata66 20.5 GB hd for Win98, OS/2 and Linux.
> I know that Win98 requires a primary partition and that OS/2 may be
> located in a logical partition as extended.  But what does Linux
> require?
> As OS/2, may it be either primary or logical?
> 
> BTW does Linux support ATA66? If so, what driver?
> //

Linux partitions may be logical partitions.   The only caveat
is that the lilo boot loader ordinarily should be in the first
sector of a primary partition or the first sector of an extended
partition.   At least this used to be the case.  I think this
is more an issue of what the initial booting sequence---before
one ever gets to lilo---can do.   In most cases, it can't load
from a logical partition.

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux USB support !
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:54:19 -0500

Dances With Crows wrote:
> 
> On 10 Jun 2000 15:48:41 GMT, Robie Basak
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >On Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:30:05 GMT, dondon dimaano said:
> >>What distribution(s) of Linux supports USB hardware (mouse/keyboard/etc.) ?
> 
> The latest Mandrake is supposed to have backports for USB stuff inserted
> into the kernel.
> 

I just did a complete install of Mandrake 7.1 over the weekend. The
only USB device I have is a zip drive, and that works just fine with
it. USB keyboards/mice are also supposed to be supported, but I can't
verify that as I do not have those devices.

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,jaring.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help configuring KSamba
Date: 12 Jun 2000 16:07:05 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Mun Yip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: sorry!! it is basically files not found even though the files exist in the
: directory!!

Show us the errors (and the command that elicited them). Don't attempt to 
give us your interpretation! Be absolutely exact.

And why should files being in the directory have anything to do with the
system finding a command?  Which is what I think you are hinting at.
(possibly you need to read the unix faq ..  the part about the system
search PATH for commands not normally including the current directory).

: Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: news:8i1v6j$ibf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:> In comp.os.linux.misc Mun Yip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : I can't get KSamba to run!!! there are errors while trying to use the
: make
:> : and make install command!!!
:>
:> That's nice. Do you feel like showing us these errors, or are you going
:> to leave us to intuit or telepath them?

Peter

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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with certain rpms
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:27:36 -0600

Help.

I am having problems installing or building certain
rpms and src.rpms.  I have rpm-3.0.4 and its devel
rpm installed on my Mandrake 7.1 system.  The ESPECIALLY
problematic rpm is rpmfind-1.2.  If I try to install
the binary rpm, I get a Seg fault/core dump.  If I try
to build the src.rpm, it dies with:

...
checking for dbopen in -ldb1... yes
checking for rpmReadConfigFiles in -lrpm... no
configure: error: *** rpm lib not found 
...

Now, damnit, all the librpm files ARE installed.  They are
right where they are supposed to be on this system in 
/usr/lib.  If I download the source tarball of rpmfind-1.2
and try to build that, it craps out with the same error.

Why is this?  Has anyone managed to get the damn thing
compiled on a Mandrake 7.0/7.1 system?  If so, please tell
me what applicable rpms/libs are installed (version and
location)?  

praedor

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Missing characters in Netscape pages
Date: 12 Jun 2000 12:21:58 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:27:36 GMT, Christopher Wong 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>When browsing the web with Netscape or kfm, I often come across pages
>where some characters do not display in the browser. I would see a '?'
>or some other generic placeholder depending on the font I am
>using. The undisplayed characters are generally punctuation characters
>such as quotes. I usually use Microsoft's TrueType fonts when
>browsing. This is probably a well-known problem, so I would appreciate
>it if someone could point me to a document explaining the problem and
>work-arounds. Thanks in advance.

The problem is boneheaded Web designers who use direct character codes
like &#151; in their HTML.  (ASCII code 151, shows as an em-dash under
Lose9x.)  You'll find that all the characters that show up as "?" are in
the range 128-159, which is not defined in the ISO 8859-1 standard.  
There probably isn't a workaround for Netscape, but you have the source to
kfm and someone could probably kludge something in to display " for the
"Stupid Quotes" and -- for the dashes.  Submit a feature request to the
Mozilla team if no one's done so already.

However, the Web should be all about standards, and letting MS dictate how
things can be coded in HTML is *NOT* the way to go.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Beer is a vegetable.  WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:25:52 GMT

On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 07:38:07 -0400, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>David Steuber wrote:
>> 
>> Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> ' History and Microsft have proven the market cannot kill M$, even when
>> ' the market is more innovative.
>> 
>> "Yeah?  Well history is about to change."
>>         Marty McFly, "Back To The Future" 1985
>> 
>> Linux is within a couple years of being a major threat to Microsoft
>> where it hurts the most:  on the desktop.
>> 
>> Look at KDE2.  It is coming along very nicely.
>> 
>> Look at Gnome.  They have a mission of being better than KDE.
>> 
>> KDE has the mission of being the BEST desktop, period.  Two free
>> desktop environments of high quality competing on merit.  Best of all,
>> you can use either of them or some other desktop and window manager
>> and still run your favorite Linux applications.  Not only that, they
>> compile and run on *BSD.
>> 
>> The compiler is getting better.  Friendlier development tools are
>> getting better.  Office type software ( KOffice, StarOffice,
>> AplixWare) is getting better.
>> 
>> The application barrier to entry is ready to fall.  The hardware
>> barrier will be next.
>> 
>> Sure, Microsoft will be around for a long, long time.  But their star
>> is already fading.  See how many DSL providers support Windows 2000.
>> Java is not dead yet and shows signs of rising back up.
>> 
>> I've heard that Apple is basing its next major OS on BSD.  Why they
>> didn't go with NextStep is beyond me.  But my guess is that Apple will
>> be able to finance a real OS from their iMac sales.  It will be a Un*x
>> under the skin.  That skin will look like MacOS in terms of look and
>> feel.  Probably with some enhancements.  If Apple does the smart thing
>> and supports GCC and contributes to it so that free software can be
>> compiled and run on the Mac, then Apple will start to thrive again.
>> 
>> In five years, Microsoft won't be the company they were five years
>> ago.  I don't know where Apple will be.  They actually have to produce
>> their new OS.
>> 
>
>All of this progress is possible at the moment because M$ has stopped a

        None of that is in Microsoft's control. What is relevant to 
        Microsoft's sphere of influence is applications availability
        and 3rd party hardware support as well as OEM bundling of 
        alternate OSes.

>lot of it's backroom bullying.... and only becasue of the harsh and
>intense spotlight it finds itself in. If there were no government
>action... things would a lot differnet today.

        Microsoft has no ability to prevent a "better desktop" from
        being developed. What they can sabotage is it's adoption.
        
-- 

                                                                        |||
                                                                       / | \
    
                                      Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (OldUncleMe)
Subject: Re: Totalling CPU time per user?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:40:19 GMT

It was: 8 Jun 2000 21:40:42 GMT  and with STARTLING insight,
"[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)" 
  posted "Re: Totalling CPU time per user?" 
 to "comp.os.linux.misc" :

-->On Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:39:52 -0600, Steve Wolfe said:
-->>
-->>  Right now, we're trying to do some benchmarking/profiling on our server to
-->>plan out our hardware upgrades in the very near future.  In order to make an
-->>informed decision, we need to get some data on the amount of CPU used by the
-->>CGI applications verses CPU time used by the database.  Right now, they're
-->>running on the same machine, but will be seperated very soon.  The ratio of
-->>CPU usage by the two will determine the amounts (and types) of hardware that
-->>we throw at it, and probably some decisions about future development.
-->>
-->>  So... I'd like to get a total amount of CPU time used by two users - in
-->>this case, the user that the CGI apps are owned by, and the user that the
-->>database runs as.  However, since the database spawns a new child for each
-->>request, it's not as easy as looking at the total CPU time for the main
-->>process...
-->>
-->>  Right now, I've been watching a few "tops", viewing only the processes
-->>owned by the two users.  It's given me a rough guess, but I'd like something
-->>more concrete.  Is there any (reasonable) way of finding this information?
-->
-->Process accounting; this needs to be enabled in the kernel, then you
-->type 'accton /var/pacct', IIRC, then you use 'sa' to get the results.
-->
-->The output I got from 'sa' always appeared corrupted, though, even
-->after recompiling it (sa and the kernel, that is).
-->
-->Robie.

Hey, didn't know any of that. I did compile process accounting into my last
kernel, for a lark.  It works, and appears not to be corrupted, after one
short test:
[user@testbed /var/log/]# sa
      16       3.42re       0.01cp         0avio       342k
      11       2.85re       0.01cp         0avio       349k   ***other*
       3       0.00re       0.00cp         0avio       271k   sa
       2       0.57re       0.00cp         0avio       412k   sh*

some related man-page material for ' sa ':
cpu     sum of system and user time in cpu seconds
re      "real time" in cpu seconds
k       cpu-time averaged core usage, in 1k units
avio    average number of I/O operations per execution
tio     total number of I/O operations
k*sec   cpu storage integral (kilo-core seconds)
u       user cpu time in cpu seconds
s       system time in cpu seconds

I did have to manually create the /var/log/pacct file, empty, but probably
it would have been created by sa ? if I had supplied this as an argument to
the command?  I don't see user accounting or the /var/log/usracct file, but
perhaps more reading will turn up how to start this up as well.  /ts

              tenox  @  home  dot   com
                                                                             

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Subject: Re: change ctime
From: John Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12 Jun 2000 11:53:28 -0500

>>>>> "ljb" == ljb  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    ljb> (Can't let this go without clearing it up...)  ctime (the
    ljb> function) is a C library call which formats and returns a
    ljb> date/time string. No relation at all to "ctime", the file
    ljb> attribute, which represents the last time the file's inode
    ljb> was changed. There isn't any practical way to for the file's
    ljb> ctime to an arbitrary value.  Calling the "ctime" file
    ljb> attribute the "creation time" is one of the most widely
    ljb> spread Unix/Linux errors around...

Thanks for the clarification.

JDH

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Zaitcev)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Kernel loadable modules...
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:59:13 GMT

> For example, suppose vendor X comes out with a piece of hardware that
> the vendor wants to work with Linux.  But the vendor does not want to
> distribute source code for some reason, just a binary driver.
> 
> Is it possible to create such a module that will work when the user
> decides to go from kernel 2.2.14 to 2.4 or 2.3.x?

No, it is not possible for most cases, and most systems, Linux
not being specific in any sense. For example, you cannot run
any single loadable module from SunOS 4 on Solaris 2.x, hardly
any module from Solaris 2.3 on Solaris 2.6 (current version is
Solaris 8).

Binary module vendors must supply separate binary modules for
Linux 2.0, Linux 2.2 and Linux 2.4 in the same way they
supply modules for Windows 3.1, Windows 95. The source may be
complileable from the same tree.

Interfaces must change for a system to remain competitive without
exessive bloat and personally I do not see any way around that,
but perhaps I am narrow minded.

--Pete

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From: "Tom Dorgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: problem with rh6.2/nt dual boot
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:04:08 GMT

I re-read the FAQ and searched the net and scanned the newsgroups. I have a
13 gb drive. I installed NT 4.0 w/s sp6a first. I installed NT in the first
2 gb, then skipped 2gb and put ~9gb for my 2nd NT partition. I got NT
working fine.

Then I installed RH 6.2 on the 2gb partition (sector 561). No problem. I
didnt let LILO write the MBR and I did generate a boot floppy. linux boots
fine from the floppy and NT boots just like it did before from the hard
disk. I only created ' /' and '/boot' linux partitions.

then I followed the FAQ instructions for setting up the NT loader to dual
boot with linux (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html).
This worked before for me.

I peeled off the initial segments of /hda3  /hda5 as well as from the boot
floppy
fd0 and tried all of them in NT boot.ini without success. The images from
the hard drive (hda3 & hda5) do nothing and the image from fd0 prints out
"80 80 80 80"... and whacks the floppy disk drive. It will boot if I pop in
the boot floppy, but that's not the idea.

any ideas as to where to proceed from here would be greatly appreciated.


cheers,
tom.








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From: "Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anti-Virus for Linux?   Firewall Software?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:34:55 -0500

Are there anti-virus products for Linux?

How about firewall software?

Thanks,
Larry



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