Linux-Misc Digest #792, Volume #25 Sun, 17 Sep 00 15:13:04 EDT
Contents:
kde config / startup help needed. ("Roy F. Cabaniss")
Re: "mount -f smbfs //etc" - where to put so it mounts automagically? (Bruce LaZerte)
Re: installing suse 6.4 ("Roy F. Cabaniss")
Re: The Truth About the Kursk Disaster (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: XFree86 vs Windows (William Burrow)
Re: Problem With Fdisk Utility (Rafael)
Re: The Truth About the Kursk Disaster (David M. Butler)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Re: 2 webservers behind firewall? HOW (Scott Alfter)
remote tar and MacOS (David Rysdam)
Lilo?Confused-Help
Looking for recomendation to replace Netscape mail/news reader (Les Hazelton)
Re: ethernet gaurenteed to work? (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Re: which editor should I learn VI or EMACS (Rob Ratcliff)
Re: ext2 file size limit? (Robert Heller)
Re: X-Server problem when changing back to console (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Re: RAD Tools for UML (Rob Ratcliff)
Netscape v4.75 Java problems (John Thompson)
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From: "Roy F. Cabaniss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kde config / startup help needed.
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:14:56 GMT
Lessee...
Using SuSe 6.3, kernal 2.2.35 or so. 3dfx voodoo and plenty of ram
(remembering when 8 meg was a ton). Most of the time I go straight to a
graphical interface. Until very recently I had been using fvwm2. I
have almost decided to switch to kde (drag and drop to a desktop is an
advantage) I have some questions on kde that I have not been able to
find in the manuals.
1. How to I make an automatically started app goto a specific window?
2. At the moment I have to su to root to manually start the sound and
then restart X to get sound on kde. After that it works fine. How can
I make the sound come on automatically? (I use oss as the main sound
program as far as I know.)
3. Can I get kde to use au sounds? If no.. I have a couple of classic
au's that I am very fond of... how would I convert them?
4. Is it at all possible to replace the pager used in kde with the one
used in fvwm2? I LOVE that old pager..... and it has been the main
reason I have not switched yet.
Thanks much for the help.
--
Dr. Roy F. Cabaniss Ph.D. in Marketing
Chairman, Division of Business
Huston-Tillotson College
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce LaZerte)
Subject: Re: "mount -f smbfs //etc" - where to put so it mounts automagically?
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:06:52 GMT
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 01:03:35, "Dirk Kunze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> there is a automounterfs in the kernel to mount networkfilesystems at
> boottime...
> think, you need to recompile the kernel...
>
OK, I'll look into automounter.
But it really seems like it should work if I put an entry in fstab like
this:
//BRUCE/LANDRIVE /mnt/landrive smbfs user,rw,otheroptions 1 1
In fact, there's a script during bootup called netfs (?) that calls:
mount -a -t smbfs
And I see on the screen that this happens during bootup and is [OK]
But when I get to the console as ROOT, theres nothing at mnt/landrive. If I
then run mount -a -t smbfs, it works fine. The landrive appears.
Also I can't run mount -a -t smbfs as any other user than root, despite the
fact that user is specified in netfs. So perhaps these options are not
being read inproperly...
Thanks, Bruce
======================
Bruce LaZerte
Muskoka,Ontario,Canada
mail at fwr dot on dot ca
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From: "Roy F. Cabaniss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: installing suse 6.4
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:17:19 GMT
Danny Wingate wrote:
>
> I'm trying to install suse 6.4 om my compaq laptop. I don't have an
> internal cdrom only an external. Is there a way to get my pc to boot from
> it? I'm not very experienced, and have never installed any Linux at all.
> The installation manual makes it look easy to do if using yast. Any help
> will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Danny
>
If you have an OLD backpack then you are in luck.. simply use the boot
disk and look for the microsolutions parallel port.
Unfortunantly, SuSe does not recognize their NEW (RW) backpack external
cd
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
--
Dr. Roy F. Cabaniss Ph.D. in Marketing
Chairman, Division of Business
Huston-Tillotson College
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general,alt.linux
Subject: Re: The Truth About the Kursk Disaster
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:21:33 GMT
John Smith wrote:
>
> I'm glad to see that you find the horrible death of 118 people so amusing.
>
> "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Some new information has come to light over the Kursk disaster. For
> > those with short attention spans, the Kursk was the submarine that blew
> > up and sank in the Artic Ocean killing all 118 on board. The Russians
No, he finds the cause of death amusing. Yeesh, what a dour person.
--
[X] Check here to always trust content from Chris
[ ] Check here to accept cookies from Microsoft
[ ] Check here to reboot now
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: XFree86 vs Windows
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:22:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 00:17:00 +0100 in comp.os.linux.misc,
Steven Thurgood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've noticed something similar to this in that my X doesn't seem to
>buffer (if that's the irght word) the open apps, so that if an app is
>behaving slowly, and I drag something else over it, I see trails of the
>moving app where the underneath app hasn't redrawm itself. I've heard
>that there's an option somewhere to make X remeber what was there, and
>redraw it without the app in question getting involved, but I've no idea
>what it is..
>Is this true?
Perhaps you are thinking of backing store, whereby the X server
remembers for the app what was drawn in a window, instead of asking the
app to redraw what was once in the window.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
Y1.99K compliant message. ~ ()>()
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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem With Fdisk Utility
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:39:40 -0700
It is sure. If partition fished on 1028 , next must start from 1029. In
your situation it overlaps (what fdsik is saying).
If you have Dos partition (Fat32 or 16) you must create extended partition,
preferably using fdisk from linux, not from Dos.
You have to remove, and start from the begining, you messed to much.
Rafael
Rafael
Frank the root wrote:
> Hi, everybody
>
> I'm presently trying to organize a particular partition order on a 20GB
> hard drive (/dev/hdb). Here is what it looks like (fdisk output):
>
> Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hdb1 1 1 7 56196 83 Linux native
> /dev/hdb2 8 8 1027 8193150 5 Extended
> /dev/hdb3 1024 1028 1792 6144862+ 83 Linux native
> /dev/hdb4 1024 1793 1799 56227+ 82 Linux swap
> /dev/hdb5 8 8 772 6144831 b Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hdb6 773 773 1027 2048256 b Win95 FAT32
>
> Command (m for help): v
> Warning: partition 3 overlaps partition 4.
> Warning: partition 3 overlaps partition 6.
> Warning: partition 4 overlaps partition 6.
> 11229619 unallocated sectors
>
> I don't know how to force the partitions 3 and 4 to start at another
> cylinder than 1024. Why that? Anyone has a solution?
>
> Thank for sharing to knowledge.
>
> Frank
>
> --
> Ceux qui r�vent le jour, savent des choses qu'ignorent ceux qui
> r�vent la nuit.
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From: David M. Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general,alt.linux
Subject: Re: The Truth About the Kursk Disaster
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 13:42:50 -0400
John Smith wrote:
> I'm glad to see that you find the horrible death of 118 people so amusing.
God I hate it when people say this. Usually in effort to make someone
look bad and make yourself look like you really, truly cared. If you knew
someone personally on that sub, I apologize. Otherwise, I somehow doubt
that you were actually grieving their loss. I don't even know any of their
names, so as of yet, it's a number in the headlines.
Besides, I'm sure the guy didn't find the deaths themselves amusing, he
was just writing a little humor to make fun of Microsoft.
-D. Butler
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:58:28 GMT
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 08:03:34 -0400, Rinaldi J. Montessi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hartmann Schaffer wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:59:34 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RogerB) wrote:
>> >
>> >> Crap. For years Ms has been the only produce because
>> >>the stores sell nothing else.
>> >
>> >Bull shit. There has *never* been a time when MS didn't have
>> >any competition. Claiming "they only came out on top because
>>
>> that is debatable. true enough, there always was something available,
>> but you had to know about it and be very persistent to get it.
>> practically all stores and direct sellers offered ms and nothing else,
>> didn't bother to inform potential customers that anything else was
>> available. there was a period where dr-dos had a chance. just check
>> the court documents about how ms took care of that problem
>>
>> >the stores sell nothing else" is as stupid as the crap Ray Lopez
>>
>> how many stores do you know who sold something else, or were even
>> willing to look into it when you demanded it (which most newbies
>> couldn't simply because nobody told them)
>>
>> > ...
>>
>> hs
>
>Most of the folks I know in the retail business don't know how to
>operate anything but windows. The technicians may know how, but the
>money is in working on MS boxes. It's a "volume" thing.
IOW, it's a market barrier inherent to the way in which software
works and how software interfaces (or at least the implementations
that hide) them are things that can be owned.
[deletia]
Any competitor to microsoft not only has to replicate the OS,
but all of the device drivers and all of the 3rd party apps.
They also have to ensure that all of this will be where the
consumers can get to it. At times, this last bit has just been
plain impossible due to Microsoft's racketeering activities.
--
Friendships last when each friend thinks he has a slight superiority
over the other.
-- Honore DeBalzac
Famous, adj.:
Conspicuously miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: 2 webservers behind firewall? HOW
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:04:09 GMT
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In article <blKw5.2368$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
D. Abuan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have two webservers behind a Redhat 6.2 PC running IP Masquerading. I
>know how to port forward one webserver
>if there is a request to my external PC's IP address at port 80. But I want
>to set up another one....running NT (for
>my room mate who wants to run IIS) how can I set this up????
Use port forwarding for the other server. If yours is running on port 80,
though, your roommate's IIS will need to be forwarded from a different port
(say, port 81). The URL for your server's homepage will be
http://www.yourdomain.com, while his will be http://www.yourdomain.com:81
(or whatever port you decide to use).
If the idea of tacking on ":81" to the URL isn't too appealing, you can set
up Apache on your server to have http://www.roommates-domain.com go to a
redirect page to http://www.yourdomain.com:81. In this case, the IP
addresses associated with www.yourdomain.com and www.roommates-domain.com
need to be the same.
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/ v \
(IIGS( Scott Alfter (remove Voyager's hull number for email address)
\_^_/ http://salfter.dyndns.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Rysdam)
Subject: remote tar and MacOS
Date: 17 Sep 2000 17:25:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My basic need: I have a Linux (RH 5.x) server and a Linux (RH 6.x)
desktop. My wife has a Mac (OS 8.x). All machines are networked (IP
and also AppleTalk for the Mac). I have a (SCSI) tape drive in the
server. I want all three machines backed up to the one tape drive.
1) When I use GNU tar to do a remote backup from the Linux client like so:
tar zcvf username@server:/dev/nst0 dir_to_backup/
everything is fine. Then I rewind the tape on the server:
mt rewind
And issue another command from the client to view the backup file
tar ztf username@server:/dev/nst0
I see the files there, but I also get this message:
gzip: stdin: decompression OK, trailing garbage ignored
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
What does this mean?
2) After I issue TWO backup commands (with no rewind in between) I can
view each of them in turn. But if I try to use the "mt" commands
on the server to set the tape to the beginning of the second backup
(using "mt fsf 1" or similar) it doesn't work.
2) I would like to backup the Mac to the same tape. I found someone
who theorized that created a Mac client to rmt (which is what the
remote tar seems to be doing) should be pretty easy. Does anyone
know of a Mac rmt client? Or is there a version of tar that
supports both remote files and the Mac?
- --
My public encryption key is available from www.keyserver.net
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lilo?Confused-Help
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:28:31 GMT
I am learning linux by installing a linux (LFS).
I have three levels of same linux in different partitions.
One I mess around, one before I mess around and one all tested.
I can boot any of them via lilo. I am running out of space so,
1. I formated one of them which has 2 gig. with P-Magic .
2. I commented out the that partition in lilo.conf and ran lilo -v -t and
every thing OK. So I update MBR with lilo -v. Went well.
3. When I boot it,I got "ERROR- You should have 'ro' on the looplinux.bat"
file. I can not boot the other partitions too, except Win95 and floppy.
Help! Can some one educate me? Old dog for new tricks.
Where is looplinux.bat. I can not find any where?
APPRECIATE ALL THE HELP.
RGDS.
MYINT
Here is my mess, lilo.conf
#lilo
# general section
#
boot = /dev/hda
install = /boot/boot.b
message = /boot/message
prompt
# wait 20 seconds (200 10ths) for user to select the entry to load
timeout = 200
#
# Dev linux 2.2.16 create 8/5/00
#
image = /boot/vmlinuz
label = dev
initrd = /boot/vmlinuz
read-only
root = /dev/hda9
#
# BurRel
#
image = /boot/vmlinuz
label = burrel
initrd = /boot/vmlinuz
read-only
root = /dev/hda6
#
# BurLinux 2.2.6
#
# this may be the problem for booting THIS IS THE ONE i FORMATED.
#image = /boot/vmlinuz
# label = burlinux
# initrd = /boot/vmlinuz
# read-only
# root = /dev/hda10
#
# BurDev 2.2.16 rel 8
#
image = /boot/vmlinuz
label = burdev
initrd = /boot/vmlinuz
read-only
root = /dev/hda11
#
# TinyLinux
#
#mage = /boot/vmlinuz
#label = tiny
#initrd = /boot/vmlinuz
#read-only
#root = /dev/hda7
#
# OpenLinux
#
#image = /dev/hda6/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.35-modular
# label = linux
# root = /dev/hda6
# read-only
#
# RedHat
#
#image=/dev/hd19/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
# label=redhat
# initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
# read-only
# root=/dev/hd19
#
# additional entries Win95
#
other = /dev/hda1
label = win95
table = /dev/hda
loader = /boot/chain.b
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http://www.help.com/
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From: Les Hazelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Looking for recomendation to replace Netscape mail/news reader
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 14:33:26 -0400
I have been using Netscape for some time now as my mail/news reader.
Like all of life, it has its good and bad points. I want GUI based mail
& news readers that support html and Netscape does that.
What I want that it doesn't provide is support for multiple pop3
accounts and PGP or GnuPG signature and encryption/decryption support.
When I search for replacements I see a myriad of mail and/or news
readers that are GUI based. Some support PGP, others support HTML, but
so far I have not found one that does both. I have loaded and tried
several, but installing and trying them all is quite time consuming and
I still might miss the one that does what I want.
I don't mind using two products. One for news and the other for mail.
Still, I would want the ability to apply or check PGP news message
signatures.
If someone could point me to a component that does what I am looking for
I would really appreciate it.
--
Good Journey, longevity and prosperity to all
Les Hazelton
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ethernet gaurenteed to work?
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 14:40:21 -0400
Trumpy wrote:
> I'm not trying to help Intel sell net cards, but I have a Intel Pro/100B and
> it always gets set up automatically under SuSE and Mandrake. Haven't tried
> red hat, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
I have an "Intel� Pro/100+ Manaagement Adapter" card in each of my machines.
One machine runs Linux only, the other runs Linux most of the time and Windows
95 some of the time. I have VA Linux Systems version of Red Hat 6.0 on this
machine, and vanilla Red Hat 6.0 on the other. I do not recall doing much to
hook them up, and I never did it before, so it cannot be very difficult. I have
an APC surge protector in the cable between the two machines, a long straight
Class 5 cable from the old machine to the surge protector, and a 1 foot long
crossover cable (hub substitute) from the surge protector to this machine. I
did have to install Samba on this machine so the other machine could talk to
this one when running in Windows mode, and turn on nfs on this machine so I
could share files and printer when the other machine is running Linux. I do not
really use the network for much except to share the printer. 100Megabit LAN
seems fast enough for that. ;-)
I did setup dns so the machines could talk to each other, but that just
involved making and entry or two in /etc/hosts and regenerating the other files
for named (bind) with the h2n program (described in the cricket book). THe dns
on the other machine is a slave to this one.
> "Peter Bismuti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8q1m02$bjm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Hi, are there any reccomendations for a moderately priced ethernet
> > card that is gauranteed to be detected by RH6.? and not require any
> > configuration, loading of kernel modules, etc. etc?
> >
> > Thanks
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 2:30pm up 39 days, 21:56, 2 users, load average: 2.15, 2.30, 2.64
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From: Rob Ratcliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which editor should I learn VI or EMACS
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:40:56 GMT
Learn vi then use the vi emulation mode, viper, in Emacs to gain access
to
the some of the nicer Emacs features like the JDE (Java development
environment).
That way you'll never be without an editor and you can easily gain
access to what you need
at a given time. (Plus I think that the emacs key bindings are a little
too verbose and cumbersome.)
Of course this is JMHO.
Rob
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> which editor should I learn VI or EMACS
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ext2 file size limit?
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:43:24 GMT
Paul Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:53:18 -0700, wrote :
PR> Hi
PR>
PR> Can someone tell me what the max size for a single file is in linux?
PR>
PR> I'm trying to creat a 6GB loopback device, but using dd if=/dev/zero
PR> of=file
PR> crashes out after filling the file with 2GB. I presume this is happening
PR> as I've reached some file system limit? Is there any way around this or
PR> any plans on making ext2 handle larger files?
This is a problem with the current i386 (32-bit) ext2 kernel code. I
don't know if the 2.4.x kernel will fix this or not.
PR>
PR> Thanks,
PR>
PR> Paul
PR>
PR>
PR>
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X-Server problem when changing back to console
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 14:52:11 -0400
Marc Bartsch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have the following problem. When I quit the X Server or use
> CTRL-ALT-F1 etc. to go
> to the console, the monitor sometimes flickers continously as if a wrong
> screen mode had
> been selected (and not standard VGA). This happens NOT every time I
> change to the console,
> however.
>
> I am running the SVGA Server (3.3.6) with a 16 MB Voodoo Banshee card
> and Suse Linux 6.4.
>
> Many thanks for your help,
>
> Marc.
I have an NEC MultiSync FE700 monitor, Red Hat Linux 6.0, and a Matrox G200
AGP video card. The monitor has a relay in it that clicks off the power to
the CRT if the synch is not right. When I do C-A-F1, etc., to go from
X Window System to CLI, it clicks off and back on within a second (my
impression, not timed). I never thought to see what was going on, though.
Perhaps the video driver takes a moment to set up and the synch detector
notices the gap and flicks off for a moment.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 2:42pm up 39 days, 22:08, 2 users, load average: 2.38, 2.45, 2.53
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From: Rob Ratcliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RAD Tools for UML
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:54:40 GMT
TogetherSoft has a tool called TogetherJ for Java and C++ .
Its pretty pricey though. There is a freeware project going
on too for rudimentary diagrams, but I can't remember the name of
the code.
David Goldstein wrote:
> Is anyone aware of any RAD tools for UML design under Linux? I would be
> very grateful for any response :)
>
> David
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape v4.75 Java problems
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 12:43:31 -0500
Since installing NS v4.75 java has not worked for me. When I
access a java-enabled site, I get two warning boxes:
=====[the first]====
Java reported the following error on startup:
java.lang.SecurityException: system classes where not signed
====================
and:
----[the second]----
Warning: JIT compiler "jit" not found. Will use interpreter.
====================
and java refuses to function. I have the MOZILLA_HOME variable
pointing to where the netscape binary lives, and the CLASSPATH
includes /usr/lib/netscape/java/classes/java40.jar.
I have the Blackdown v1.1.8 jdk installed and have tried Sun's
java plugin to use this instead of the built-in java (StarOffice
has no problem with java sites using the Blackdown jdk) but from
what I can tell, the Sun java plugin is only enabled if the
applet asks for it. What else needs to be changed to allow NS
v4.75 to use java? It worked fine with v4.73 and before, and as
I mentioned, StarOffice has no problem using java, so what's
going on here?
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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