Linux-Misc Digest #794, Volume #24 Mon, 12 Jun 00 17:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: vote on MS split-up ("David ..")
Re: KPPP problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
fdisk, uh oh... ("Darren Welson")
Problems running X (Marcelo)
Re: Lynx -dump (Hal Burgiss)
Re: >>>>Linux<<<< ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Which Linux is better? (John Hasler)
Re: fdisk, uh oh... ("ne...")
Re: Missing characters in Netscape pages (Christopher Wong)
Re: Nobody's logged in???? (Robie Basak)
Re: Web application question (Robie Basak)
Re: Freewwweb prompts for System password only (Was "Re: No answer from freewwweb")
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: how to import outlook mail into netscape mail? (Robie Basak)
Re: Programming Server Daemons - FAQ'S ??? (Robie Basak)
Newbie : LILO doubts ??? (hhk)
Weird sounds (Steve Wolter)
redhat/gnome/bash ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What should I do with ISO file? ("Darren Welson")
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:01:22 -0500
Rick wrote:
>
> "David .." wrote:
> >
> > It wasn't the DOJ that started MS's Problems.
> > Enough said.
> >
>
> Then who was it? And why has M$'s marketshare problems just happent to
> coincide with the lates antitrust action?
Don't remember which one actually was the first but I think it was one
of the two Sun or Netscape that started the ball rolling, so to speak.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KPPP problem
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:15:53 GMT
Try to change the pppd timeout in the Kppp settings. Change it to
something like 60.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I try to connect to my ISP using KPPP, I get a timeout error
saying
> the connection timed out waiting for ppp to come up. But, I can
connect
> using Uernet/netcfg. Anyoane have any ideas?
>
> Any help appreciated.
> --
> Rick
> To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.
>
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From: "Darren Welson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.corel,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: fdisk, uh oh...
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:25:57 -0700
How do I 'format' a swap partition? I have moved a swap partition, gone
into FDISK and created a new partition, renamed it swap, but now my system
does not recognize it. Also, how do you format a partition once you have
created it in FDISK, swap or not?
I can do this in DOS FDISK, but is it different in Linux?
How about DiskDruid, where is that thing?
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Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:33:01 -0300
From: Marcelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems running X
Does anyone have experienced problems running X, using a monitor Samsung
SynMaster 500b and video card SiS6326 ?
I'm using Mandrake, and even though the instalation reconize both
monitor and accelerator card, X Windows dosn't run .
Thanks in advanced,
Marcelo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Lynx -dump
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:42:28 GMT
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:53:29 GMT, Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Daniel Lackey wrote:
>>
>> I run a crontab: lynx -dump http://myserver.cc/file.php3
>> If I run this from a command line, it executes fine, but from cron I get:
>> "Your terminal lacks the ability to clear the screen or position the
>> cursor."
>> Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
>> Thanks
>
>Why would you do that in a cron job? It's trying to write to
>the terminal screen and it can't do that as an unattached
>process (cron job). The following should work.
>
>lynx -dump http://myserver.cc/file.php3 > dumpedfile
I'll bet he still gets it. I ran into the same thing with 6.2, even
dumping to file. Using wget instead now. Don't know if this is an option
with php or not.
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Hal B
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: >>>>Linux<<<<
Date: 12 Jun 2000 19:31:52 GMT
Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I would say Red Hat simply because of the wide-spread acceptance and
: comptability. There *always* seems to be a Red Hat version of anything
: released (except Microsoft Office of course :-)
Redhat is incompatible with most anything else. It's very bad that
way. And there is a non-redhat version of everything ever released, _by
definition_.
Peter
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Linux is better?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:33:44 GMT
Wouter writes:
> The Hurd is another kernel,..
Actually, it _isn't_ a kernel: that is what makes it different.
Debian GNU/Hurd is a port of Debian to the Hurd and is well underway.
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John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.corel,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fdisk, uh oh...
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:51:38 GMT
On Jun 12, 2000 at 12:25, Darren Welson eloquently wrote:
>How do I 'format' a swap partition? I have moved a swap partition, gone
>into FDISK and created a new partition, renamed it swap, but now my system
>does not recognize it. Also, how do you format a partition once you have
>created it in FDISK, swap or not?
>I can do this in DOS FDISK, but is it different in Linux?
>How about DiskDruid, where is that thing?
A good friend for you: man -k
$ man -k swap
[...]
mkswap (8) - set up a Linux swap area
rdev (8) - query/set image root device, swap device, RAM
disk size, or video mode
swab (3) - swap adjacent bytes
swapon, swapoff (2) - start/stop swapping to file/device
swapon, swapoff (8) - enable/disable devices and files for paging and
swapping
XdbeSwapBuffers (3x) - swaps front and back DBE buffers.
$ man -k mk and check the results. And DiskDruid, no idea.
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If you look like your passport photo -- it's too late for a doctor.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Wong)
Subject: Re: Missing characters in Netscape pages
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:50:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dances
With Crows wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:27:36 GMT, Christopher Wong
><<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>>When browsing the web with Netscape or kfm, I often come across pages
>>where some characters do not display in the browser. I would see a '?'
>>or some other generic placeholder depending on the font I am
>>using. The undisplayed characters are generally punctuation characters
>>such as quotes. I usually use Microsoft's TrueType fonts when
>>browsing. This is probably a well-known problem, so I would appreciate
>>it if someone could point me to a document explaining the problem and
>>work-arounds. Thanks in advance.
>
>The problem is boneheaded Web designers who use direct character codes
>like — in their HTML. (ASCII code 151, shows as an em-dash under
>Lose9x.) You'll find that all the characters that show up as "?" are in
>the range 128-159, which is not defined in the ISO 8859-1 standard.
>There probably isn't a workaround for Netscape, but you have the source to
>kfm and someone could probably kludge something in to display " for the
>"Stupid Quotes" and -- for the dashes. Submit a feature request to the
>Mozilla team if no one's done so already.
Ah, so that's it. Still, it would be hard to argue that the designers
are being "boneheaded": they could just as easily argue that this is a
deficiency in Linux/X. The HTML standard (I am looking at the HTML
4.01 spec on w3c.org) specifies ISO10646 aka Unicode as the HTML
standard for the numerical character references. And of course, the
ISO10646 standard defines a lot more characters than the ISO8859-1
standard. Web designers could argue that Linux web browsers are not
standards compliant. Is there a better argument to present to
webmasters than "you bonehead, you are not following the standard"?
I suppose another way to fix this problem is to have a web proxy fix
up the HTML stream on the fly. This has the effect of modifying the
content, so I am not sure what the legal issues there are behind
this. It may be asking too much to have Junkbuster handle this, but it
would be nice.
Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Nobody's logged in????
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Jun 2000 20:01:42 GMT
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:23:20 GMT, Hal Burgiss said:
>On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:39:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Having a problem with our Linux box. [Running Redhat 6.1] We have users
>>connect to the Linux box From NT Workstation over a telnet client to
>>access our database. I routinely use 'w' to kill hung processes on
>>users pc's. As of Friday, however, issuing a 'w' command shows that no
>>one is logged in.I rebooted the Linux box, thinking it was a
>>glitch,however the 'w' command still comes up empty. The only way I can
>>get a list of users and their processes is by issuing a "ps -au >
>>{file}" then listing {file} to find the correct
>>user/process to kill.
>>Any ideas why the command stopped showing the user details??
>>
>
>Maybe I am paranoid, but my first thought would be 'Have I been
>cracked?'. Have you tried to eliminate this possibility? You might try
>'rpm -V' against procps. Not foolproof, but a starting point.
Check that /var/run/utmp exists and has permissions 644. Check that
there is still room left in the /var partition.
(utmp is the file which keeps track of logged in users)
Robie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Web application question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Jun 2000 20:04:16 GMT
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:29:50 GMT, Yang-Cheng Hsiao said:
>Hi:
>
>I have the following newbie question:
>
>Could someone tell me what features in the Web applications
>developed by MS Visual Interdev(such as ASP, COM object,
>..etc.) are only supported by IIS but not supported by the
>Linux' Web server? What areas in a Web application are
>independent between these two platforms?
HTML, Java possibly.
>For the MS features that are not supported by Linux Web
>server, do we have any eqivalents under Linux?
PHP, Perl, mod_perl.
>Finally, is there any good source on the Web that might
>contain more details information related to the questions
>I have?
I can't remember any offhand, sorry (but they should be very easily
searchable).
Robie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Freewwweb prompts for System password only (Was "Re: No answer from
freewwweb")
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:55:37 GMT
I don't understand. Isn't using minicom the way to get raw response
from the PPP server? (By "raw", I don't mean "with any OSI model stack
headers intact") I know I need to use CHAP or PAP. But I want to see
the initial username prompt, to say the least. Somehow that was skipped
as [EMAIL PROTECTED] also found out.
Yong Huang
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8i38vj$f7j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <8i375f$dqh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, yong321, One of the posts
said, Use
> PAP authentication not login script. Will try that tonite.
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan) wrote:
> > > Does freewwweb use PAP CHAP or something? I normally use "EXPECT
> > ogin:"
> > > "SEND username" "EXPECT sword:" etc to login to other ISPs, but I
saw
> > > freewwweb send "System password:" when I was EXPECTing "ogin:"
> > >
> > > How did you make it work?
> > > --
> > > jazz annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
> > > Registered linux user no. 164098
> > > Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
> > > --- OUT THERE??
> > >
> >
> > Over the past weekend, I tried freewwweb for the first time. It
works
> > fine in Windows. But in Linux, I used minicom to see what their
> > response is and got exactly the same message:
> >
> > TNT Windows Terminal Server
> > System password:
> >
> > There's no prompt for username. Is this because they started to
change
> > their login and possibly disable Linux dialup recently?
> >
> > --
> > Yong Huang
> >
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >
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> > Before you buy.
> >
>
> --
> Don't e-mail your response
> Post it right here, but if you must, I'm also at
> annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: how to import outlook mail into netscape mail?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Jun 2000 20:11:50 GMT
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 21:12:20 -0500, Divya Sundaram said:
>Well,
>The way *I* did this was as follows:
>
> Installed UWash IMAP on a Linux box
> Created an account on the Mail Server
> Used OE5 to transfer the mail from my local folders to Server
>
>Once done, I can now simply use IMAP or use Netscape to
>download the messages. Personally, I would leave it on the server.
Ah, but I have not two computers :-)
Robie.
>"Mark Bratcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Robie Basak wrote:
>> >
>> > On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 13:28:44 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>> > >There is a program called "oe2mbx" which converts OE5 folders to
>standard
>> > >MBX format - look for it on http://www.freshmeat.net/ or, if you're
>> > >really desperate, email me back and I'll send it to you - the source is
>> > >only a few K in size ...
>> > >
>> > >I have used the program - it seems to work very well.
>> >
>> > Didn't work for me at all :-(
>> >
>> > I've decided never again to use an email client which cannot export
>> > mail as a standard (text) format - either mbox or maildir or similar.
>> >
>>
>> That rules out any Microsoft programs. You have experienced the
>> "innovation" they keep talking about.
>>
>> --
>> Mark Bratcher
>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Programming Server Daemons - FAQ'S ???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Jun 2000 20:12:55 GMT
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:53:18 +0200, Rainer Brosi said:
>Hi,
>
>I want to learn how to programm a daemon, that listens to a specific port
>and reports some data of the incoming connections and gives some friendly
>words to the client back.
>
>Are there severel FAQ's or other sources of help ???
No need; write your program in whatever language, taking input from
stdin and writing to stdout. Test that way.
Then just add it to /etc/inetd.conf and watch it become a server :-)
Robie.
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Subject: Newbie : LILO doubts ???
From: hhk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:12:29 -0700
Hi all,
What actually happens when I run /sbin/lilo ?
After going through numerous literature, this is why I have
gathered. I am not sure if I am correct and would be most
grateful if anyone can point out my mistakes.
1) the file specifed by install=/boot/boot.b is copied into the
boot-sector of the boot device spewcified by boot=dev/hda
Is this the boot-loader programer itself? Am I correct to say
that LILO is a program that copies the boot-loader into MBR that
will then load linux subseqently ... rather than saying that it
actually loads linux ???
Are bootstrap loader the same as boot-loader? ... there are so
many different terms used nowadays.
This file cannot be the same in all disturbution right? But how
come some documentation suggests copying the file from another
disk when trying to make a new device bootable. What exacting
does the file contains?
2) When lilo is run, a map file is generated as specified by
map=boot/map. This file tells the system where to find the
kernel, right?
3) Lastly, do I have to run lilo again when my kernel is upgraded
and there is no changed in the new kernel image 's name or path?
Thanks all.
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From: Steve Wolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Weird sounds
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 22:26:57 +0200
Hi,
I am a relative newbie to Linux, but not to computers in general, and
I have a question relating to my current workstation (FYI, I am using
Kernel 2.2.10):
1. Every time I run the machine, it makes weird sounds. it isn't the
internal speaker - I have already disconnected it. The sound card
isn't it, too - speakers out. My HD makes normally louder sounds, but
out of good reasons I couldn't test the computer without the hard
drive yet. It isn't the CD-ROM, too. This sounds start to occur short
time before the drives are mounted, and are best described as clicks.
Their frequency seems to get higher when there is some PS/2 port
activity.
Do you know what's up?
2. I can't compile any code! Sorry to ask such a newbie question, but
what is up there? If I type the normal command ("xmkmf -a" IIRC),
there is always some problem with Imake not finding his own temporary
files. I have tried it as root.
If I use premade makefiles, make can't use them properly, gives me the
line in which the error is, and quits. Unfortunately, I can't read
this language used by the makefiles at all, so don't ask me to correct
them.
Any help?
--
Steve Wolter
ICQ: 58652584
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: redhat/gnome/bash
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:18:40 GMT
i'm trying to migrate off my win95 workstation & start using my redhat
6.2 box
i need some guidance though--
using gnome, and the gnome terminal emulator with bash as my shell, I'm
trying to set it up so that when I click on the icon for a shell
session (the gnome term emulator) it automatically reads
my .bash_profile
i was curious if gnome had something similar to a .dtlogin file that
exists with CDE?
What's happening now is strange. the settings i've started with are
PAGER and set -o vi
the details of how its behaving currently would be long-winded; but i'm
hoping someone can straighten me out or point me toward a document or
site that would shed light on controlling my envrionmental variables.
the other question is email client, spread sheet software--
are most usng star office for such?
or am i better off just using pine and some other spread sheet program.
i may end up using soffice anyway cause on occassion I have to share
word and excel files with others. what have other peoples experiences
been with this?
appreciate any feedback,
joe [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
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From: "Darren Welson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What should I do with ISO file?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:33:39 -0700
This assumes you downloaded the ISO image in binary form and not ASCII.
You can also mount this from a partition that can be read by Linux, like
FAT32, and install from there.
Paul wrote in message ...
>Hi! I download Redhat 6.2, but it is in iso files. How can I convert it to
a normal
>files so that I can install it and also be able to copy it to a cd-r?
Please explain
>more detail for me because I am a beginner. Thank you very much for your
>help. I am really appreciated.
>
>Paul
>
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