Linux-Misc Digest #794, Volume #18 Thu, 28 Jan 99 06:13:16 EST
Contents:
Re: Netscape Communicator 4.5 (128bit) problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
No available PTY'S message when opening an xterm (BradyBear)
Re: SMTP problem, please help ("Marco Magagnini")
screwed up fstab ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Any X-server for Cyrix Media GX on board VGA ? (Gary Momarison)
What is This in TOP (Jayasuthan [VorHacker])
What is rawhide anyway? (GeekGirl)
Re: A newbie versus "vi" [HOLY WARS ALERT] (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Ken Pizzini)
Re: Linux on IBM Thinkpad 370C ? ("Remko")
Re: rpm for 2.2.0? (David Fox)
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (David Kastrup)
Re: linux max RAM is 1GB? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux - Where To Start??? ("Paul Bunchuk")
Re: which distribution package do you recommend? (Tony Eamick)
4096 files/user and 4096 tasks/user possible? (Ron Peterson)
Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (Steve Lamb)
Re: rpm for 2.2.0? (Dan Nguyen)
Re: Compressed 2.2 kernel about 35% larger than compressed 2.0.x? (Gopal Harikumar)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Netscape Communicator 4.5 (128bit) problem
Date: 23 Jan 1999 22:06:40 GMT
Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 21 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
>> > Freshmeat is setup as my homepage. Ever since the change in format of the
>> > page, I have found that Netscape 4.5 will crash ("Bus error" in an xterm
> [...]
>> I don't know why this happens, but I can confirm that bug with my
>> Netscape 4.5 non-128.
> Don't know how long it will last but I followed a suggestion from the
> redhat mailing list I'm on and in my home directory did a "mv .netscape
> .netscape-save" and then restarted netscape. It created a new .netscape
> directory and I setup the preferences as I wanted...and as soon as I hit
[...]
> It may only be OK for a short period - every time my homepage loads I
> anticipate a crash - but so far so good.
I don't know why (again ;-)), but since 2 or three days freshmeat loads
without any crashes again. *shrug*. On the button of the freshmeat page
you can read: code revision 19990120. Maybe they put a work-around in it.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BradyBear)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: No available PTY'S message when opening an xterm
Date: 25 Jan 1999 00:06:09 GMT
After a recent unsuccessfull attempt to install wp8, I'm now
experiencing a wierd problem. When ever I try to open an xterm, I get
the message "no available ptys". I can start CDE, but if I try to open
a terminal, I get the same message. If I try to just do xinit, X fails
with the same message. I don't know if it's related to the failed wp8
installation attempt, But it started immidiately after that. I tried
reinstalling xfree86 and that went smoothly, but I stll can't open an
xterm. I can't find any references to PTY'S in any documentation
anywhere. My question is, does anybody know what a PTY is and how to I
make them available to xinit?
Thanks
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From: "Marco Magagnini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: SMTP problem, please help
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:42:16 +0100
I have had a similar problem on my server.
I was able to fix it by finding all pop end imap process and killing it.
After that all was OK.
Hope this help
Marco
Joewono Setiabudi ha scritto nel messaggio
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have a pop mail server (linux slackware) and 5 NT machines (5
>different users).
>The NT machines are using netscape for downloading emails.
>
>This configuration has been fine for months.
>Just recently, 2 of the users can not download their emails anymore,
>whenever they are trying to download them, I got an error message
>in netscape saying that "the mail server responded that
>/usr/spool/mail/username
>has been read" and after that, netscape just keep asking for a password.
>
>This error message is not because the mail file is not there or empty
>and
>it is not because network problem or password problem.
>
>There is no error message either in /var/adm/messages
>(smtp in.pop3d[1071] connect from xxxx
> smtp in.pop3d[1071]: Servicing request for username).
>
>Anybody knows how to fix this problem ?
>
>It seems that something is still locking the mail file.
>
>I tried to delete the mail file but it doesn't help either.
>In fact after deleting the mail file I got an error message saying can't
>
>generate output.
>
>This thing has made me totally confused since it only happens
>to those 2 users, the other 3 users work just fine.
>
>Please help.
>
>If possible, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Thanks
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: screwed up fstab
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:45:11 GMT
I was running redhat 2.0.35 kernel with a hard drive running on a promise
ultra-33 card. The card wasn't supported at the time (with out a patch) so i
used a successful work around where a passed the correct parameters to the
kernal via lilo. I decided to upgrade to the 2.2.0 kernel which supports
this card by automatically probing for the correct paramaters. When I booted
the 2.2.0 kernel it detected the card but instead of detecting it as hda and
hdb it detected it as hde and hdf. I loaded up my old kernel and changed my
fstab to the newly detected hd's and forgot to change my lilo to point to the
hdf root point. I tried to tell lilo manually where the mount point is
(linux2.2 root=/dev/hdf) and was succesfull at getting to the root maintance
mode but when I ran vi everything was set to read-only. I am wondering how I
go about writing to my fstab in some way.
Wish I had made that boot floppy....
thanks
Dan Harris
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Any X-server for Cyrix Media GX on board VGA ?
Date: 27 Jan 1999 15:50:01 -0800
"Y W Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> As title.
> If exist, where can I download, or any generic X-server can be used ?
There's a "MediaGX" in http://www.xfree86.org/cardlist.html
Investigate http://www.xfree86.org
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From: Jayasuthan [VorHacker] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What is This in TOP
Date: 27 Jan 99 21:21:42 GMT
Hi,
Please help me with this strange cpu time on a process
this what I see from top
2 root -15 -15 0 0 0 0 SW< 0.0 0.0 -5965h kflushd
you see the cputime -5965h ! What it means... ? My systen uptime
is 2:12 hours.
Thank You,
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Jayasuthan
[Internal Linux System]
http://eplx01/suthan/
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[External]
http://still.working.on
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GeekGirl)
Subject: What is rawhide anyway?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:21:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi folx-
I'm looking at three sources of rpms frm Red Hat: rawhide.redhat.com,
rhcn.redhat.com, and contrib.redhat.com.
What is rawhide anyway? And what is the difference between rawhide and
rhcn? There's a lot more packages, more recent ones, in rhcn.
And there's vast amounts in contrib..../libc6/i386 too. So I am pretty
confused. I can't find much on their web site to differentiate between
these.
GG
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: A newbie versus "vi" [HOLY WARS ALERT]
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:58:54 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 25 Jan 1999 18:05:57 -0500...
..and Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [I wrote:]
> >> Yeah, right. And DOS will be able to get rid of its warts as soon as
> >> all DOS applications will be rewritten to use only clean part of API.
> >
> >Blabber, blabber, blabber... Here, see, I rigged a plonkmetre for you.
>
> Uncalled for. There are tons of stuff written in elisp. Try to fix the language
> and you'll break a lot of that stuff. I don't think that you *really* consider
> rewriting it all to Guile. Bugwarts compatibility is a bitch - look at DOS
> if you don't think so.
There will be an Elisp *pre-processor* for Guile so it can execute Elisp
code! That's what I was talking about!
> >> Please,
> >> get real. Support for multi-threaded stuff - maybe. But then it will
> >> duplicate the old stuff, not replace it. And EMACS is already huge.
> >
> >I have seen respective postings from Emacs developers. I see no reason why
> >Emacs shouldn't switch to Guile. Multi-threading is a different issue.
>
> "Switch" as "throw away elisp"? See several paragraphs above. "Switch" as
> "add Guile" - see immediately above. I finally gave up on EMACS when the
> MULE went in.
One can modularise it.
> [snip]
> >> WHAT? So it will be unable to run without *that* stuff?
> >
> >You get things backwards. It will have a Gnome front-end as well as an X
> >front-end as well as a console front-end. BTW, I hope they will modularise
> >these front-ends, three in a monolithic binary is a bit over the top.
>
> Ouch... Sorry, I misparsed you.
Yup.
> [snip]
> >vim is a bit more than one third of Emacs' size with Perl, Python and Tcl
> >bindings. I don't know about nvi.
>
> vim is fatter. I think that 10% is doable. BTW, do you mean all three
> interpreters combined or just all glue + one of them?
Support for all these languages compiled in.
mawa
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My Geek Code is no longer in my .signature. It's available on e-mail request.
It's sad to live in a world where knowing how to program your VCR actually
lowers your social status...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Pizzini)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 27 Jan 1999 20:30:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 27 Jan 99 03:49:47 GMT, Zenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Most major companies don't trust there sysadmins,
Most major companies don't trust people that are placed in
positions of trust? That's pretty strange...
> I've yet to see a single Linux box anywere on such networks.
> Solaris, VMS, NT, FreeBSD, HPUX, AIX, et al, but never Linux once.
>
> At one company they wanted to run a full security check on my lap
> top before letting it connect to there network (pretty common
> actually). I told them I ran Unix on it and not Windows. They
> replied that they still are required to check Linux machines
> (assuming that's what I meant when I said "Unix"). I told him is
> wasn't Linux but FreeBSD and he says, "Oh sorry, you're ok then.".
Was this based on some *real* issue(s) with Linux, or just a
blind presupposition that "Linux is merely a hobbyist OS"?
I am at a loss to think of how Linux would be a security
risk in a manner that FreeBSD would not also be.
--Ken Pizzini
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From: "Remko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on IBM Thinkpad 370C ?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:50:50 +0100
I managed to install SuSE linux on an old toshiba i386 laptop with 4MB
internal, a 61MB HD + floppy. This was hell, and the miniminimini system I
crammed onto this thiny little HD is only, but very usefull, to get
aquainted with linux (since I am new to this). I can now rlogin to my
desktop via a parallel nullmodem using TCP/IP and do all sort of neat stuff.
Anyway, this is what I did:
Copy the installation media on a DOS partition peace by peace via the
parallel. Figure out wich files I could do without and install step by step,
deleting installed files and copy newones onto the partition. You will
probably have more than enough space to install a small system at once, set
up a NFS and go from there.
some problems I encountered:
Lack of memory. 4MB won't work without switching terminals and making
swapspace. 8MB seems to be somewhat of a minimum 12MB will be slow but it
will work fine.
Lack of HD space. I crammed everything into a partition of 50MB with nothing
to spare. ext2 will reserve about 5% of the partition for the superuser, I
think to store data to recover in case something goes wrong, so that left me
with a 46MB Linuxfish in 47.5MB tin can. The rest was swap and DOS.
Lots and lots of installation errors because I had to install step by step
each time exiting and unfinished installation.
Some remarks:
On my desktop I installed RedHat without any problems. I like the YaST
program (Yet another Setup Tool) that SuSE uses a lot.
Have fun!
Remko
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: rpm for 2.2.0?
Date: 27 Jan 1999 13:24:22 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy) writes:
> >"Jesus M. Salvo Jr." wrote:
> >>
> >> Does anyone know if there is already an rpm for the 2.2.0 kernel source,
> >> headers, etc.!?
>
> Is there actually any advantage in using an RPM for kernel update?
In answer to the first question, there are 2.2.0 RPMs in the current
Redhat Rawhide distribution. In answer to the second, there are
significant advantages in ease of building a modified version (say,
with APM and SMP enabled) -- you can build the kernel, all the
modules, the pcmcia modules with a single command and then install the
resulting RPMs on several different machines. And you can
cryptographically verify that none of the kernel files on your machine
have been modified by intruders. Finally, you can easily back them
out and reinstall the old ones if you so desire.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: 28 Jan 1999 11:10:48 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson) writes:
> On 28 Jan 1999 01:55:42 +0100,
> David Kastrup, in the persona of
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
> brought forth the following words...:
>
> >David Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> I agree. If someone put time into developing a linux distribution
> >> designed for OEMs to tune to specific hardware setups, and then was
> >> preinstalled on a computer, it would be just the same as windows.
> >
> >Yes somebody better should do that. Perhaps something that looks like
> >the kickstart installation options of RedHat Linux or S.u.S.E Linux.
> >If anybody were to develop a Linux distribution that would offer
> >something like those two Windows vendors do, Linux would be off to a
> >raging success.
> >
> >As it is, we have to just grit the teeth and wait. And suffer
> >computers like the Cobalt Qube and the Corel Netwinder to come
> >preinstalled only with Windows.
>
> maybe I am missing something here, but both the Cube and Netwinder are
> linux _only_, they are not even available with Windows, presinstalled or
> no.
REALLY?!? You shatter my world view. Next thing you are going to
tell me is that RedHat and S.u.S.E aren't Windows vendors and their
kickstart installation is for a different operating system.
--
David Kastrup Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: linux max RAM is 1GB?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:21:10 GMT
In article <78m19r$sn2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> For some reason that I don't remember I believe that the 32 bits, although
> theoretically capable of addressing 4GB, can only really address 2GB. But
> shouldn't this be actually 2G"words" (32 or 64 bits wide?)
>
>
Actually, Intel processors allow you to access memory bytes individually, so
restricting the memory to 2^32 bytes.
Hugo
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From: "Paul Bunchuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux - Where To Start???
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:36:40 -0800
I m totally new to Linux my experience is with Windows and NT. Where to I
start? I want to install Linux and start learning it. In particular I am
looking for a list of fies to dwnld for the OS and where to get them.
--
Thank you,
Paul Bunchuk
Ft. Lauderdale, Fl
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:10:19 -0700
From: Tony Eamick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: which distribution package do you recommend?
You might try Suse 3.2 . It comes out of Germany and would definately have a
German language version . It is also a fine pkg with drivers for up to date
video
cards.
Adrian Smith wrote:
> Jerry Lynn Kreps ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : M. Wimmer wrote:
>
> : > Yes, that is true! Maybe I should have mentioned, that a german version
> : > would be prefered. Please also try to explain abbreviations (like
> : > IMHO,....).
> : >
>
> : <snip>
> : RTFM mans "Read The Fine Manual"
> : etc....
>
> "Read The FAQ'n Manual" is closer :)
>
> Adrian
> http://www.snaffles.demon.co.uk
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From: Ron Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 4096 files/user and 4096 tasks/user possible?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:07:15 -0500
Does anyone know if it is possible (and how) to increase the
number of files and tasks a user can have open at one time
to 4096? I found various instructions that describe bringing
the maximums up to 1024 but I'm finding that rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd
stop working at 4096 files/user (error message says "Bad file descriptor").
Also, if I go higher than 2000 tasks the kernel crashes during boot
("invalid TSS: 0058" right after it prints the "Linux version 2.0.36"
message.)
Ron Peterson
Senior Programmer
D'Agents project
Dartmouth College
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Jan 1999 13:58:54 +0800
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:07:57 GMT, Daniel McGregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>as microsoft. I hear the old Adaptec drivers are buggy enough to bring
>the system down from time to time.
Define old. I've been using a 1542 for over a year now and my box only
comes down when I am upgrading kernel or hardware.
--
Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my
http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus | employer's. They hired me for my
ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions!
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From: Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: rpm for 2.2.0?
Date: 28 Jan 1999 00:32:18 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc David Fox <d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u> wrote:
: In answer to the first question, there are 2.2.0 RPMs in the current
: Redhat Rawhide distribution. In answer to the second, there are
: significant advantages in ease of building a modified version (say,
: with APM and SMP enabled) -- you can build the kernel, all the
: modules, the pcmcia modules with a single command and then install the
: resulting RPMs on several different machines. And you can
: cryptographically verify that none of the kernel files on your machine
: have been modified by intruders. Finally, you can easily back them
: out and reinstall the old ones if you so desire.
If all your machines are identical. If they aren't you get one that
is perfect for one machine and bloated for others. Modules do help,
but not everything can be a module.
--
Dan Nguyen | There is only one happiness in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | life, to love and be loved.
http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 | -George Sand
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gopal Harikumar)
Subject: Re: Compressed 2.2 kernel about 35% larger than compressed 2.0.x?
Date: 27 Jan 1999 23:23:44 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Frank Hale
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
-> What do you expect? There was 2 years worth of work to get us to 2.2.0
-> and it would seem to me, that there is alot more code in the 2.2.0
-> kernel than in the 2.0.x ones.
->
Hi,
But I have not enabled any of the new kernel options. That is, my
2.2.0 kernel is supposed to have only those features that I had
enabled in my 2.0.x kernel. Is it still the case that the compiled
/vmlinuz would be larger? Oh well, not that
I care since it does not affect the speed or anything as far as I can
tell. Just curious.
Anyway, thanks.
Hari.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Gopal Harikumar ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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