Linux-Misc Digest #829, Volume #24 Fri, 16 Jun 00 00:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: How Return to prompt login? (Floyd Davidson)
Re: ALSA: Where's the sound? (David Steuber)
auto shutdown problem (#R P JAYASANKA L PIYARATNA#)
Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet? (Jared Morrow)
Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet? (Jared Morrow)
Re: Horrible sound at startup with SB 64 ("Lonni J. Friedman")
Re: Winmodems (Dances With Crows)
{Q} Monitor X and Y settings resetting. (John Vert)
stuffit decompressor on Linux? (Bruceh)
Re: Man pages extremely slow in X ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: HTTP request sent; waiting for response (David Steuber)
Re: Winmodems (David Steuber)
Screen Saver Problem... (Marcus Leung)
Re: stuffit decompressor on Linux? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet? (Christopher Wong)
Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet? (Christopher Wong)
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Return to prompt login?
Date: 15 Jun 2000 17:49:58 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Try going to single user mode as you boot up. Hit the CapLock
>> or whatever key you normally use just as the "LILO" prompt comes
>> up, and it should halt and wait for your input. Type a TAB to
>> get a list of available kernels. Assuming you have done the usual,
>> and the default is called "linux", enter "linux single" and hit
>> the return key.
>
>That is my problem now.
>Since this machine is a server and I dont know
>why it was configured, CapLoc, TAB lef down keys, all simply
>being appear " boot
> linux
> boot
> "
>then go directly to
>"boot
> linux loading ........".
>
>All this happened without allowing me to tape "linux single"
>or "linux 3".
>
>This is my problem now.
Hmmmmm....
I like the Caps Lock key because it lights up the light on
my keyboard and as things proceed I can watch it, and if it
goes out I hit the caps lock key again. That means it will
be "on" when the "LILO" prompt arrives, and my timing is of
not importance even if the wait time at boot is set to a
very minimal value. (I don't know though, it may be set
completely off on a server.)
BTW, I like that "linux 3" idea.
If the above doesn't get you the halt to enter a command, its
is find a boot disk time! No other way...
And from what I've read in your followup posts, it sounds like
what you will find is that the default init level statement
has been changed to one that should run xdm. Editing it to
read whatever multiuser is (5 or 3???) on your system will
probably be the fix that works.
Floyd
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: ALSA: Where's the sound?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 03:00:01 GMT
More information:
I have determined that I have the ES1879 audio chip. This corresponds
to the snd-card-es18xx driver:
root@solo% lsmod
Module Size Used by
3c575_cb 19948 2
cb_enabler 2280 2 [3c575_cb]
ds 6728 2 [cb_enabler]
i82365 23612 2
pcmcia_core 47680 0 [cb_enabler ds i82365]
root@solo% modprobe snd-card-es18xx
/lib/modules/2.2.16/misc/snd-card-es18xx.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
/lib/modules/2.2.16/misc/snd-card-es18xx.o: insmod
/lib/modules/2.2.16/misc/snd-card-es18xx.o failed
/lib/modules/2.2.16/misc/snd-card-es18xx.o: insmod snd-card-es18xx failed
root@solo% lsmod
Module Size Used by
3c575_cb 19948 2
cb_enabler 2280 2 [3c575_cb]
ds 6728 2 [cb_enabler]
i82365 23612 2
pcmcia_core 47680 0 [cb_enabler ds i82365]
root@solo% insmod soundcore
Using /lib/modules/2.2.16/misc/soundcore.o
root@solo% lsmod
Module Size Used by
soundcore 2596 0 (unused)
3c575_cb 19948 2
cb_enabler 2280 2 [3c575_cb]
ds 6728 2 [cb_enabler]
i82365 23612 2
pcmcia_core 47680 0 [cb_enabler ds i82365]
root@solo% modprobe snd-card-es18xx
Segmentation fault
root@solo% lsmod
Module Size Used by
snd-seq-device 3240 0 (unused)
snd-opl3 4136 0 (unused)
snd-hwdep 2828 0 [snd-opl3]
snd-timer 8000 0 [snd-opl3]
snd 36844 0 [snd-seq-device snd-opl3 snd-hwdep snd-timer]
soundcore 2596 0 [snd]
3c575_cb 19948 2
cb_enabler 2280 2 [3c575_cb]
ds 6728 2 [cb_enabler]
i82365 23612 2
pcmcia_core 47680 0 [cb_enabler ds i82365]
I don't think this is an isapnp card because pnpdump doesn't find
anything.
So what do I do now?
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: #R P JAYASANKA L PIYARATNA# <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: auto shutdown problem
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:00:04 +0800
Dear all,
I have a dual celeron 433 on bp6 and I am running redhat 6.2 with kernel
version 2.2.15. I've compiled the kernel including the apm support, but
I am not getting the auto shutdown feature working.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Sanka
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From: Jared Morrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet?
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:05:23 -0700
Christopher Wong wrote:
> Have they fixed up the bugs that made Mandrake 7 so maddening? Some of
> these I reported, to no avail. Many problems tend not to be discovered
> by reviewers who only try the installation step. Here is some of what
> I encountered:
>
> - XEmacs info system broken. They compressed the info files with
> bzip2, but forgot to tell XEmacs how to handle them. This bug was
> originally reported on Sep 1999, and was still broken in version 6.1
> and 7. Is it STILL busted?
>
> - The ftape driver did not work. Somewhere between Mandrake 5 and 6,
> it broke. My floppy tape drive would not work until I manually loaded
> zftape.o. I reported the problem to Mandrake, and they closed the bug
> without fixing it. Still broken in Mandrake 7.
>
> - Upgrade install did not. I tried their upgrade installation over my
> Mandrake 6.1 machine. I tweaked the selection of packages and ran the
> upgrade. After the install, I found that most of the packages were not
> upgraded. I think there was some dependency issues that they neglected
> to handle or inform me about. I had to upgrade many of the packages by
> hand.
>
> - Mandrake Security (msec) gone berzerk. One of their security
> customization scripts had a bug that clobbered my /etc/inittab,
> rendering my system unbootable. Most unnerving. The security settings
> did not make sense for a network-connected individual user. Why isn't
> there a setting that gives strong network security but relaxed user
> security? A lot of the settings at the "normal" level was rather
> irritating, preventing user access to a lot of normally accessible
> directories and files. Moreover, the thing regularly scheduled lengthy
> (and noisy) disk scans to check permissions.
>
> Chris
All of that works fine except I don't know about xemacs because I don't
use it. You know that you could easily fix that yourself by just
upgrading those packages.
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From: Jared Morrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet?
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:06:05 -0700
kamborg wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:11:45 GMT, Christopher Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >rendering my system unbootable. Most unnerving. The security settings
> >did not make sense for a network-connected individual user. Why isn't
> >there a setting that gives strong network security but relaxed user
> >security? A lot of the settings at the "normal" level was rather
> >irritating, preventing user access to a lot of normally accessible
> >directories and files. Moreover, the thing regularly scheduled lengthy
> >(and noisy) disk scans to check permissions.
> >
>
> I've simply dispensed with crond. I determined it was the program accessing
> my HD 1-2 times every 60 sec, preventing the drive from powering down when
> nobody's using the machine. (And the only problem that would incline me to
> turn it off at night.) Now it doesn't start rattling away every 00:00
> running some security script (with a path too long to remember. I can find
> it and run it by hand when I feel like it.) I'd just as soon plan out my
> own network security, once I figure out ipchains ! Well, that's supposed
> to get easier with linux 2.4.x...... --kamborg
Why dispense with cron, why not just spend a couple minutes reading about it and
fix it yourself.
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From: "Lonni J. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Horrible sound at startup with SB 64
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:27:16 -0400
"Fabio S." wrote:
>
> >It happens when you initialize the sound card, it's normal.
> >Solution #1 - Don't reboot.
>
> This is impossible: I think we are the only office on earth where by tha
> night they shut down the power in the whole building!!!!! :-((((
> Don't ask me why, I don't know. But, as you see, I am forced to shutdown
> when I leave.
>
> >Solution #2 - Turn down the volume on your speakers.
>
> This also is impossible, since my speackers don't have a volume control
> (as you see, my office is also poor, in addition to strange...)
>
> Is there a Solution #3, by chance ? ;-)
#3) Get a new soundcard
#4) Get a newer kernel with better sound support
#5) Get different speakers
#6) Get earplugs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Winmodems
Date: 15 Jun 2000 23:34:42 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:43:47 -0500, Flounder
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I HATE winmodems but I don't see why linux does not support them. BeOS
>has support why doesn't linux. I do not mean to sound like a troll, but
BeOS is not Open Source, and the development cycle for the BeOS kernel is
a lot longer than the development cycle for the Linux kernel. There *ARE*
binary drivers for some LoseModems; did you look at http://linmodems.org/
? The main problem there is that the ltmodem.o module was compiled for
kernel 2.2.12, and using it with any other kernel requires doing an
"insmod -f ltmodem.o". So far, it works with kernels up to 2.2.15... but
at some point, the Linux kernel internals will change, and the module will
stop working.
If the LoseModem driver had source available, you'd just recompile it
against the new kernel sources, but that's not going to happen at the
present time. Maybe Lucent will get a clue and grab the latest kernel
source every couple of months, compile their source against the kernel,
and put the new module up for download as "ltmodem2.2.16.o" or
something. The likelihood of this happening is small, as they probably
can't be bothered to spare a developer and a machine for 4 hours to
compile and do a few tests.
If the companies would open the specs on their hardware, there are many
kernel developers who would leap upon those specs with fangs bared,
consume large amounts of caffeine, and have nifty drivers for the whole
Linux community pretty quickly. LoseModem manufacturers, however, will
not release the specs for the hardware for reasons I can't even begin to
grasp.
>find they have a winmodem therefor cannot get on the net so they
>decide not to try linux because they don't want to buy a new modem. Most
>people are saying we need support for more video or audio cards but what
>about winmodems.
http://linmodems.org/ ... work is being done; I'm sure they could use help
in various areas.
>I talked about BeOS having support and the reason I say that
>is because if they can we can.
There's a slippery slope involved here. Binary-only modules = good idea
in the short term... then, Company B comes out with a replacement for
large chunks of kernel functionality that does Amazing Thing X... and it's
binary-only. Then Company C comes out with a complete kernel replacement
that's binary-only. Can't fix it yourself, can't get under the hood,
can't learn from it, they make you pay money--you might as well be running
Solarisx86 or OS X!
> I hope I don't sound like to much of a troll
You have legitimate questions and gripes. Just not enough info, which is
not usually a killing offense.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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Subject: {Q} Monitor X and Y settings resetting.
From: John Vert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:41:51 -0700
Every once in a while when I start X, the X and Y settings of my
monitor reset, so the screen is a small box on the side with lots
of black spaces around it, and I have to use the monitor buttons
to stretch it up and down.. did anyone ever get this behavior?
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From: Bruceh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: stuffit decompressor on Linux?
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 03:54:26 GMT
Can anyone tell me if there is a stuffit decompressor available
on Linux?
Thanks...
-bruceh-
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Man pages extremely slow in X
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 03:56:47 GMT
Kevin Brown wrote:
> I'm running RedHat Linux 6.2 on a dual processor Pentium II 266
> Intergraph machine. When I try to do a man page in an xterm, it takes
> at least a minute to bring up each individual page, and completely locks
> up the entire system, including the mouse. Control comes back as soon
> as the man page is displayed.
>
> If someone could help me with this I would appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
Does this only happen the first time you open each man page? If you reopen
the same man page does it still happen?
The first time you open a man page, it goes through some extra steps of
being formatted, and various other 'generation' type things. This often
slows for first opening, but not thereafter.
-Kara
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: HTTP request sent; waiting for response
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 03:59:59 GMT
Krzys Majewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' It doesn't matter how many CRs I type from home, I get no response.
' -chris
david@solo:> telnet www.egroups.com 80
Trying 208.48.218.9...
Connected to www.egroups.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD / HTTP/1.0
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 03:02:23 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.3 (Unix)
Cache-control: no-cache="Set-Cookie", private
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
Connection closed by foreign host.
Looks like you have a misconfigured network.
' "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of
' a free State," sayeth Article II of the Bill of Rights, "the right
' of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
' Perfect! I wouldn't change a word of it. I only wish the NRA
' and its jellyfishy, well-paid supporters in legislatures both State
' and Federal would be careful to recite the whole of it, and then
' tell us how a heavily armed man, woman, or child, recruited
' by no official, led by no official, given no goals by any official,
' motivated or restrained only by his or her personality and per-
' ceptions of what is going on, can be considered a member of a
' well-regulated militia.
' - Kurt Vonnegut, Jr., "Fates Worse than Death"
"An armed society is a polite society"
- Robert Heinlein
You may sort out your troubles from now on.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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Subject: Re: Winmodems
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 04:00:00 GMT
Flounder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' I HATE winmodems but I don't see why linux does not support them.
You want to get the necessary specifications to write a driver? Try,
if you can. Then realize that you have to do the DSP functions, like
trellis coding, yourself. Looks like you will need some ITU (
formally CCIT ) docs for that. Got Swiss Franks? Lots of them?
If you can write drivers to support the most popular winmodems, then
you will be revered like Donald Becker and other major driver
contributers.
Good luck.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: Marcus Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Screen Saver Problem...
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:04:50 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear all,
I have installed Redhat 6.2.
I would like to set a screen saver in GNome X window,
but most of them doesn't work, they works in the small box
shown in "screen saver setup" window, but it doesn't work
in real case.
why is that? how can I solve the problem?
(it happens also when I used RH6.0)
Thanks a lot,
Marcus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: stuffit decompressor on Linux?
Date: 16 Jun 2000 00:05:29 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 03:54:26 GMT, Bruceh
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Can anyone tell me if there is a stuffit decompressor available
>on Linux?
Entering "stuffit" into http://freshmeat.net/ 's searchbox resulted in
this: http://aladdinsys.com/expander/expander_linux.html . Next time you
have a Linux software itch, go to Freshmeat or http://linuxberg.com/ or
http://tucows.com/ and see if you can scratch it there...
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Wong)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet?
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 04:02:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jared Morrow wrote:
>kamborg wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:11:45 GMT, Christopher Wong
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >rendering my system unbootable. Most unnerving. The security settings
>> >did not make sense for a network-connected individual user. Why isn't
>> >there a setting that gives strong network security but relaxed user
>> >security? A lot of the settings at the "normal" level was rather
>> >irritating, preventing user access to a lot of normally accessible
>> >directories and files. Moreover, the thing regularly scheduled lengthy
>> >(and noisy) disk scans to check permissions.
>> >
>>
>> I've simply dispensed with crond. I determined it was the program accessing
>> my HD 1-2 times every 60 sec, preventing the drive from powering down when
>> nobody's using the machine. (And the only problem that would incline me to
>> turn it off at night.) Now it doesn't start rattling away every 00:00
>> running some security script (with a path too long to remember. I can find
>> it and run it by hand when I feel like it.) I'd just as soon plan out my
>> own network security, once I figure out ipchains ! Well, that's supposed
>> to get easier with linux 2.4.x...... --kamborg
>
>Why dispense with cron, why not just spend a couple minutes reading
>about it and fix it yourself.
Maybe because Mandrake Security is rather poorly documented and more
of an annoyance than a help? I think "rpm -e msec" should solve the
problem nicely :-) (deletes the Mandrake Security).
Chris
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Wong)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet?
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 04:04:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jared Morrow wrote:
>All of that works fine except I don't know about xemacs because I don't
>use it. You know that you could easily fix that yourself by just
>upgrading those packages.
Well, considering my last upgrade of Mandrake made my system
unbootable and broke a whole bunch of things, I think it is better to
ask first.
Chris
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