Linux-Misc Digest #829, Volume #25 Thu, 21 Sep 00 20:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: shutting down a process at shutdown (Ralph Churchill)
Re: still can't upload via anonymous ftp (The Drag)
Easily compiling/moving kernel+modules to another computer (Douglas Bollinger)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Garry Knight)
Re: Linux Kernel Core Files? (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Stopping telnetd, ftpd starting at boot? (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Q: Best Open Motif version? (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: No such PID ?!?!?!?!?! Expert Help Needed! (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (robert w hall)
Re: Ethernet interface problem (David Efflandt)
lilo
FTP login problems ("Mufasa")
How do I 'get rid of' Linux from my hard drive? (holly)
Re: Linux app for labels, env, etc. (Robert Heller)
Re: installing on a hd not supported by bios (David Efflandt)
Re: LOCAL/WANTED: User group for Central Vermont (D Scott)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Garry Knight)
Re: good mail/news client (Garry Knight)
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From: Ralph Churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: shutting down a process at shutdown
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:58:09 GMT
> You see, linux' idea is not to enter runlevel 6 on shutdown,
> but to leave runlevel 2 first.
I'm reading a number of conflicting suggestions... some say that you
should NEVER put a kill in the same dir as a start, others say the
opposite. Some say, 6 is reboot, other say leaving 5 is reboot!!! Which
is it! I'm using RedHat 6.2 and I'm doing exactly what all the other
services are doing and it is NOT working.
RMC
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Drag)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: still can't upload via anonymous ftp
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:26:38 GMT
Congrats, I can see that you have been reading the FAQ and the
upload.instructions.HOWTO. Now you just have to start doing as they
recommend rather than trying to use a "roll your own" method.
Ok, first you have a number of typos in your file.
( upretrieve ? nodors ? )
How are you launching ftpd? ( Please show the entire command line )
I strongly recommend using tcp_wrappers with inetd
# /etc/inetd.conf
ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.ftpd -I -l -a -w
# after in.ftpd the -I (capital "eye") = don't use identd lookup
# -l (lowercase " el " ) log to syslog
# -a use ftpaccess for configuration info
# -w log ftp logins to wtmp with shell login logs
I don't believe you understand the use for anon-ftp. It is NOT
intended for web server maintenance (horrible, insecure idea). If you
are uploading files that are updating your webserver DO NOT use
anon-ftp, use a REAL account. Anon-ftp is designed to provide unknown
or remote users with temporary disk space to store files (i.e. save
email strain by uploading or downloading a CAD file) Anon-ftp should
NEVER be used for actual server maintenance. Do you understand that
anon-ftp is a BAD BAD BAD idea yet?
You seem to want to force your own non-working setup rather than use
the examples given to you in the FAQ. I have included the section but
I replaced " root " & " daemon " with the more secure " ftpadmin " as
mentioned in the "upload.configuration.HOWTO".
<<snipped right from the FAQ>>
WU-FTPD FAQ
Section 11 - Item 8
=>I want anonymous users to be able to upload files, but in the most
secure manner possible
=> In general: you don't want this. But, if you're stubborn...
(( Get the point? Even the folks who write the software say it's a bad
idea.))
Read the upload.configuration.HOWTO, pointer at the beginning of this
faq.
They mention the HOWTO but you have to go back to the home page to see
the link.
http://www.wu-ftpd.org/HOWTO/upload.configuration.HOWTO
Follow the steps carefully. DO NOT make your own shortcuts. If you
are going to tinker, do it after you know it is working (and have
saved your config).
Finally, here are some additional security lines you really should add
to your ftpaccess file. Some of the paths may not match your system,
so adjust as needed. Most of the items can actually be put on one
line, I have them broken up for readability and to fit whatever mail
reader format you have.
# /etc/ftpaccess
# restrict file upload naming
# I didnt want the line to wrap
# replace real with real,anonymous,guest
path-filter real /etc/paths.msg ^[-A-Za-z0-9\._]*$ ^\. ^-
### Restrict download access
#Users have no reason to download system files
noretrieve /bin /boot /dev /etc /lib /mnt
noretrieve /opt /proc /root /sbin /tmp /usr /var
noretrieve lost+found
#Anti-crack protection - don't give away your passwd files
noretrieve passwd shadow passwd- shadow- .htaccess core *.core .notar
#Don't give away security to protected web directories
#SSH isn't any good if you give away your encrypted keys
noretrieve /home/*/.htaccess /home/*/.ssh
noretrieve authorized_keys identity identity.pub
noretrieve known_hosts random_seed
#Users can upload but not download
noretrieve /home/ftp/incoming
#Increase logging to track users
log transfers guest,real,anonymous inbound,outbound
log security guest,real,anonymous
log syslog+xferlog
#block specific user access - list here or /etc/ftpusers
defaultserver deny root ftpadmin
# Restrict all users to their home directories
restricted-uid *
restricted-gid *
#unrestricted-gid %600
### Deny access to addresses w/o nameservers or incorrect dns entries
dns refuse_mismatch /etc/msgs/ftp.dns-error
dns refuse_no_reverse /etc/msges/ftp.dns-error
# end /etc/ftpaccess
OK. this should get you up and running with the information from
http://www.wu-ftpd.org/HOWTO/upload.configuration.HOWTO
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:56:53 -0400, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I reread the FAQ and redid my ftpaccess file but to no avail (same problem). Oddly
>enough though, I can download files from the server's /home/ftp/pub directory even
>though I specified no uploading in the same access file. It seems that the
>/etc/ftpaccess file is being completely ignored??? Regardless, it seems that I can
>download from it but cannot upload to it which is what I want to do.
>
>Perhaps I am going about this the wrong way. What I actually want to do is to be
>able to transfer files from my internal network to my web server in the /home/ftp/pub
>directory. I don't really need to give anyone else ftp access.
>
>If I comment out aftp from both /etc/services and the /etc/inetd.conf, the connection
>is refused so I know of no other way to allow ftp to this server.
>
>One other thing...I installed and am using the TIS firewall proxies and configured my
>/etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services file accordingly
>
>Here's my updated ftpaccess file
>
>==============================
>class all real,guest,anonftp,anonymous *
>
>email root@localhost
>
>loginfails 5
>
>readme README* login
>readme README* cwd=*
>
>message /welcome.msg login
>message .message cwd=*
>
>compress no guest,real,anonymous
>tar no guest,real,anonymous
>chmod no guest,anonymous
>delete no guest,anonymous
>overwrite no guest,real,anonymous
>rename no guest,anonymous
>
>class anonftp anonymous *
>upload /home/ftp/ * no
>noretrieve .notar
>upload /home/ftp /pub yes ftpadmin ftpadmin 0440 nodirs
>noretrieve /home/ftp/pub
>
>upretrieve /home/users/bin
>upretrieve /home/users/etc
>upretrieve /home/users/dev
>
>upload /home/users/ftpadmin * no
>upload /home/users/ftpadmin /tmp yes nodors
>upload /home/users/ftpadmin /home/users/ftpadmin yes
>upload /home/users/ftpadmin /home/users/ftpadmin/* yes
>upload /home/users/ftpadmin /home/ftp/pub yes ftpadmin ftpadmin 0440 nodirs
>
>log transfers real,anonymous inbound,outbound
>
>shutdown /etc/shutmsg
>
>passwd-check rfc822 warn
>==============================
>
>
>The Drag wrote:
>
>> Well, you didn't actually read the FAQ or you would have the answer.
>> (or perhaps you just don't understand how anon-ftp is actually
>> supposed to be used)
>>
>> Please tell us why you insist on installing anon-ftp for a production
>> webserver. At this point you have a breachable server as you didn't
>> setup enough security in your ftpaccess file.
>>
>> Tell us what you want to accomplish, and we'll post an appropriate
>> config to help you out. The point being that none of us want to help
>> you get rooted by offering the same lack of security as the ftpaccess
>> file you posted.
>>
>> TD
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:02:09 -0400, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Ok, I'm waving the white flag. After upgrading to wu-ftp 6.1 and
>> >modifying my ftp access file according to the docs, I still can't
>> >upload, i.e., I am getting "permission denied on server" error messages
>> >when I try yo upload to the /home/ftp/pub directory. Does someone have
>> >an example ftpaccess file I can look at? Here is mine so maybe you can
>> >spot the problem.
>> >
>> >Thanks in advance,
>> >Don
>> >
>> >===========================================
>> >class all real,guest,anonftp,anonymous *
>> >
>> >email root@localhost
>> >
>> >loginfails 5
>> >
>> >readme README* login
>> >readme README* cmd=*
>> >
>> >message /welcome.msg login
>> >message .message cwd=*
>> >
>> >compress yes all
>> >tar yes all
>> >chmod no guest,anonymous
>> >delete no guest,anonymous
>> >overwrite no guest,anonymous
>> >rename no guest,anonymous
>> >
>> >class anonftp anonymous *
>> >upload /home/ftp /pub yes ftp ftp 0440 nodirs
>> >noretrieve /home/ftp /pub
>> >
>> >log transfers anonymous,real inbound,outbound
>> >
>> >shutdown /etc/shutmsg
>> >
>> >passwd-check rfc822 warn
>> >===========================================
>> >
>
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From: Douglas Bollinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Easily compiling/moving kernel+modules to another computer
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:35:32 -0400
I have 2 computers, for here named "Hare" and "Tortoise." As the
names suggest, Hare is much faster than Tortoise, and I would like
to do all my compiling on Hare, including kernel compiles.
I've started doing all my kernel compiles as a regular user in my
home directory per the suggestions in the kernel mailing list. It's
really nice, no need to go root until install and no worries about
botching the system with an inadvertent keypress.
Compiling a kernel for Tortoise isn't hard either, until it comes
time to get the modules. After compilation, the modules are all
dumped together in one directory and the only way I can figure out
how to separate them into the proper directory structure is to do a
"make modules_install" as root and then copy them into a tarball
along with the kernel and the system map.
I have a few problems with this. First of all, I have to go root,
which I shouldn't have to do since this kernel isn't for this
machine. Second, it's only a matter of time before I screw-up and
zap Hare's modules with Tortoise's. It seems like a lot of bother
for something that should be quite easy.
There must be many people besides me who perform this operation and
who have streamlined it. I suppose ideally I'm looking for a script
to collect the modules, kernel image and system map into a tarball
for easy movement to Tortoise.
Any suggestions?
--
Douglas Bollinger
Mt. Holly Springs, PA
My other computer runs Linux.
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:48:00 +0100
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Brian V. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Really? Which ones were those that came with the source code?
>
>BSD
>Perhaps the original AT&T UNIX as well?
And, just to stretch the point, didn't Tenex and ITS come with the "source code"
on punched cards? :o)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Linux Kernel Core Files?
Date: 21 Sep 2000 22:49:03 GMT
In article <8qd76i$s7j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Is it possible to get linux to produce a core file when a
>kernel panic occurs?
[-]
You mean something related to 'crash' ? No, not yet. Now there
is a project to enable to run a kernel on a running system in
isolation. See http://www.freshmeat.net/, skim the entries for
the last two weeks for the latest version, or the follow up of
the guy who knows its name ;)
>I'm in the process of porting an SNA networking stack to linux, and
>am worried that should I hit any problems with the kernel drivers
>it will be difficult to debug remotely without core files. Is
>there a way of enabling core files?
[-]
Yes, but see above. On a powerful enough machine you can even
use VMWARE to boot a development kernel.
Cheers,
Juergen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Stopping telnetd, ftpd starting at boot?
Date: 21 Sep 2000 22:49:04 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Slip Gun wrote:
>Loading these deamons at boottime obviously presents a nasty security
>risk. Is there an easy way of stopping my linux box doing this (pref.
>without editing init.d files)?
[-]
Your telnetd is not started by inetd ? I doubt that, so the usual
*nix way *is* to comment out the line(s) in /etc/inetd.conf. If
you run a stand alone ftp server, then you need to disable the
init script where it is started, say rm the link in the runlevel
directory for your default runlevel.
In general disable everything that's not required as no use in
wasting resources.
Cheers,
Juergen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Q: Best Open Motif version?
Date: 21 Sep 2000 22:49:04 GMT
In article <8q7psu$bgu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonathan Gift wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I've found several versions to dl from IST, MotifZone and Metro Link. All
>are different sizes. Only the MotifZone one had man pages.
[-]
I doubt that. I've got the Metro Link version(s) and it comes
with all the documentation as well as man pages.
>
>Which is the best, are there others? Is a CD Version better?
[-]
Metro Link comes with some add on Widget library which by itself
might be worth the investment.
>I'm looking for:
>rpm Red Hat/Mandrake compatible
>end user (not developer) binaries
[-]
Metro Link comes with both, shared and static libs.
>Pentium compiled (long shot)
[-]
Okay, no CPU specific optimisations.
Cheers,
Juergen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: No such PID ?!?!?!?!?! Expert Help Needed!
Date: 21 Sep 2000 22:49:04 GMT
In article <8q8hv4$os8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Anthony Chan wrote:
>Well, what should the utmp file look like, the one in my /var/run/utmp says
>a bunch of garbage which i can't even make out. some words like
>reboot, tty, LOGIN, and thats about all i can read. the rest at strange
>boxes, or signs, and letters, i even see a Yen sign. is this normal?
>And how should i fix this?
>
>"Lew Pitcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:30:05 -0000, Anthony Chan
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >When i try to Halt or Reboot my Linux box, it tells me that there is No
>> >Such PID for almost EVERYTHING running! Why is it doing this? This just
>> >happened all of a sudden, but all the processes seem to be running fine..
>> >Its just alittle disconcerting that it gives me so many error messages
>> >when i shutdown.
>>
>> It could be that you have a corrupt utmp file
[-]
/var/run/utmp is not a text file. You can do a utmpdump < /var/run/utmp
if you've installed this binary, but even if not I cannot see why utmp
should be the problem. Minor note, it is quite okay to reset utmp to 0
length during boot, but never ... *NEVER* delete it as then you won't
be able to log in easily.
One question, you don't run umount -a before killing all processes in
the halt script ( find /etc -name "*halt*" ) ? If so, then killall,
usually the command used to, well, kill all processes is not going
to find the process id's anymore. Would be a real bummer 8-]
Oh yes, one note - please quote after the original text, not before
as it is easier to follow.
Cheers,
Juergen
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From: robert w hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:59:17 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthias Warkus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>It was the Wed, 20 Sep 2000 23:38:03 +0100...
>...and robert w hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthias Warkus
>> >For most early-era operating systems, there was not much of a
>> >difference between binary and source code. Writing operating systems
>> >in high-level languages is a pretty recent development. :)
>>
>> Er, 1970 - BCPL - I remember it well
>
>Yeah. 1970 is pretty recent. Your point being?
Oh, sorry - I didn't realise you TOO had worked on valve computers! Bob
>
>mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Ethernet interface problem
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:22:05 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Chakravarthy Sannedhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am using the Redhat linux for a particular project. I had problem whenever
>i reboot my machine. Whenever i reboot the two ethernet interface cards
>(eth0 and eth1) on my machine are becoming inactive. So all the time i am
>doing the following course to make them active.
>System -> Control Panel -> Networking configuration
>after that i am pressing the Interfaces tab and making them acive and then
>quit.
>Is there any permanent solution to get around this problem. What is the
>command i could use. How come they could be default active?
In RedHat you can use linuxconf (or netcfg in X) to set up your eth
connections and tell it to bring them up during boot. Apparently you
forgot that last step. But if you properly configured them otherwise, you
should be able to bring them up with 'ifup eth0' and 'ifup eth1'. It may
help to make sure that you have a name for any local IPs in /etc/hosts.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lilo
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:30:05 -0000
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Reply-To: "Mufasa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Mufasa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.linux.redhat,alt.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: FTP login problems
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:28:53 GMT
I had ProFTPd working for a while for myself. When I added a user so my
friend could join, it kept kicking him into the anonymous directory. I
started messing with stuff to figure out why, because I could log in with my
account just fine, but I messed something up. Now everytime anyone, user or
anonymous, go to login they get refused and the logs say the user was not
found. I think it has something to do with the auhtentication in Linux but
don't know what. Any help?
I'm using ProFTP. Here's my pam.d/ftp:
#%PAM-1.0
auth required /lib/security/pam_listfile.so item=user sense=deny
file$
auth required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so shadow nullok
auth required /lib/security/pam_shells.so
account required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so
session required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so
My ftpusers only has "root" in it. I checked the file permissions and
they're fine too. Any help? Thanks.
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From: holly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I 'get rid of' Linux from my hard drive?
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:28:32 GMT
Here's the current situation :
I have 2 hard drives. The primary ide is 20Gb, 17Gb of which is windows
98 (boots by default) and 3gb of which is linux mandrake 7.0, split only
into / and swap (bootable by floppy). The secondary ide is 3.2Gb, which
is dedicated to freebsd (boots by default via bios choice).
This works fine.
However, I have found I only have need of bsd and windows, roughly in
that order : ) Nothing against linux in general here by the way.
Anyhow, does anyone out there know how I should best go about removing
the linux partitions entirely, followed by growing the windows partition
to the full 20Gb-ish capacity?
I know that I probably could and should rtfm, somewhere, somehow, but
*I* can't find this kind of info so far, so I thought I'd ask.
Thanks in advance for any help.
~Holly~
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux app for labels, env, etc.
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:47:24 -0000
"Martin R. Soderstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:03:40 -0400, wrote :
"RS> Hi, all. Looking for opinions, here. I use vim and LaTeX for most of my
"RS> writing/wordprocessing, but sometimes I need labels, letters, envelopes,
"RS> etc. and I was wondering what a good choice would be? Star Office? A
"RS> wysiwyg text editor for Latex (a la LyX)? I don't want to go overkill,
"RS> here, but it would be nice to not have to remember a huge process for
"RS> something I only do now and then.
I found a style file (long ago), env.sty, somewhere (possibly on CTAN)
that can print addresses on envelopes. It includes code to generate
USPS compliant Zip code bar codes! I use this style file to make
package labels as well (using just its bar code function).
*I* also use (LaTeX) to create labels, of various sorts. From labels
for video tapes (adapted from a TeX "program" meant for audio tapes) to
jelly jar labels (LaTeX + dvidvi).
For CD-ROM Labels I program directly in PostScript, since I have not
found *any* package than can deal with *curved* text.
Note: LaTeX does have a letter style/class, which is what I use for
all of my business letters.
If you can't find env.sty or the audio cassette database & labeling
package let me know. If you are interested, I can send you a copy of my
jelly jar labels LaTeX file (and associated scripts).
Note: for labels, a totally *wonderful* program is dvidvi. It is a
*seriously* major error on someone's part not to include this program
with the common TeX/LaTeX distros. If you can't find this, let me know,
and I'll set it too.
"RS>
"RS> Any ideas welcome.
"RS>
"RS> Cheers,
"RS>
"RS> -- Martin
"RS>
"RS>
"RS>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: installing on a hd not supported by bios
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:52:24 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 21 Sep 2000, Martijn Brouwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello everybody,
>I have a pc with a 6.4 Gb harddisk and a bios that supports only disk up to
>2.1 Gb. Is there a way to install both windows and linux without using a
>tool like EZ-bios?
>I want to have 2 Gb for windows. Since windows relies on the bios, it
>should be on the beginning of the disk. Since the kernel has to be located
>within the first 1023 cilinders, I also want to have a very small linux
>partion within the first 470 Mb (my geometry is C,H,S = 13328,15,63). Since
>windows does not now anything of the > 2.1 Gb area, the extended partition
>is not allowed to cross the 2.1 boundary so it has to be entirely beyond
>the 2.1 limit. (below would limit the number of partions beyond the 2.1
>limit to one.). Therefore, the second windows partion has to be a primary
>one, but windows can only deal with one primary partition!
>
>Is there any solution or do I have to install the EZ-bios tool? How does
>such a tool work? Does it make an extra partition? How do I have to deal
>with it?
Not sure if you are confused or if your BIOS actually has a 2.1GB
limitation. FAT16 has a limit of 2.1GB per primary or logical partition,
but it can have a 2.1GB primary partition and multiple 2.1GB logical
partitions in a larger extended partition. You might be able to access an
EZ-Bios drive from Linux, but I don't think you can boot Linux on an
EZ-Bios drive.
I am not quite sure how you would set this up without Linux rescue
floppies or a Linux system you could access on another drive. While
Windows can only use 1 primary partition on a drive, there is nothing that
says you cannot have other primary partitions for other OS's or that the
Win partition has to come first.
I have a 27.3GB drive that extends well beyond the 1024 cyl limit even
with LBA translation. Based on that, I would suggest putting a 16MB Linux
/boot partition first, then a FAT partition (from Win FDISK) maybe
slightly smaller than the 2.1GB BIOS limit. However, do not tell it to
use the rest of the drive, or that may prevent you from adding any other
partitions after it. So make the FAT partition 2000 or 1900 bytes
(slightly smaller than the default rest of what it thinks is the disk).
Then with Linux fdisk expert (x) mode you could specify parameters for the
whole disk (either LBA translated if it is already, or the true geometry
if Linux fdisk displays 15 heads and 63 sectors.
Linux swap and other logical partitions can go in an extended
partition after that.
Another thought is to get a controller card that translates your existing
disk controller to be able to use large drives. I had one from
Promise called EIDEMax that allowed me to use large LBA translated drives
with an old 386 BIOS that did not support LBA at all (528MB limit without
the card).
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David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
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From: D Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LOCAL/WANTED: User group for Central Vermont
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 19:55:15 -0400
D Scott wrote:
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> Thank,
> Darlene
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I am afraid that the header(corrected by the master of this newsgroup) is
misleading. I am not looking for a user group. I am starting a user group &
hope that anyone interested in joining, please contact me.
Darlene
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:44:05 +0100
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Roberto Alsina wrote:
>El jue, 21 sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi�:
>>Have you ever written anything in machine language.
>Z80 machine language inserted in a REM statement in a Sinclair 1000
>(ZX81 clone) counts?
I remember sitting in my local launderette building a Forth-based OS for the
Spectrum by writing opcodes into a pocket notebook (which, of course, in those
days was made of paper). Ah, the good ol' days... :o)
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Garry Knight
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: good mail/news client
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:48:36 +0100
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Martijn Brouwer wrote:
>I am still looking for a graphical mailclient that has the following
>properties:
[snip]
>- mahagony
An apt misspelling if you're trying to run this on a 100MHz machine. It goes
slow enough on my 200MHz Pentium. Mind you, it might have debug code embedded
in it as it hasn't even reached beta AFAIK. But when it's finished it should be
good - an Outlook Express killer, maybe.
>Other suggestions are of course welcome. Does anybody have a good
>suggestion for a news client with the properties mentioned above?
Ummm... Mahogany?
--
Garry Knight
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