Linux-Misc Digest #352, Volume #25 Sat, 5 Aug 00 15:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: mkbootdisk and vmlinuz images (Akira Yamanita)
USER ADMINISTRATION ("Dejan Adelsberger")
Re: Config.sys parameters is my Question. What is it or are they? (Akira Yamanita)
Re: telnetd: All network ports in use ("Donald B. McGee")
Re: Cannot guess host type (Leonard Evens)
kernel with CDROM support ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: USER ADMINISTRATION (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Re: Icons garbled after gnome-libs upgrade ("Kevin Vandersloot")
Re: Partiton Problem ("Julio C. Rincon")
Re: Operating systems for personal-computers? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: linux can't boot (Clive DaSilva)
Re: Book to learn about Server-Side Apps? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Data repository? ("jeff")
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
SCSI Timeout Problems ("A J Wilson")
Re: USER ADMINISTRATION ("jeff")
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: USER ADMINISTRATION (David Steuber)
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mkbootdisk and vmlinuz images
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 16:28:36 GMT
Praedor Tempus wrote:
>
> OK, here's a question I have had for a while and now need
> answered. I usually compile and install my own kernels (via
> buildkernel), creating bzImages when complete. Trying to run
> mkbootdisk, it requires a vmlinuz-x.x.x kernel.
>
> How does one create a vmlinux kernel from a bzImage kernel?
> Can I simply rename my bzImage-2.2.16-6 to vmlinuz-2.2.16-6
> or can I create a symlink from the bzImage to a vmlinuz
> name?
>
> I am getting ready to reinstall windoze on my system and
> need a proper, updated boot disk for linux to reactivate
> lilo so I now have a need to run mkbootdisk.
>
> praedor
Did you compile from a RedHat kernel source RPM or something?
Anyway, yeah, just copy the bzImage file to vmlinuz-<version>.
You could use a symlink but if you ever got rid of the source
tree, that would be a problem. :)
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From: "Dejan Adelsberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: USER ADMINISTRATION
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 18:28:09 +0200
Hello!
I am using SuSe 6.4 Linux. I would like to know how can I create user/s
wich would have the same rights as the root.
It would be great to recive an ansver ASAP.
Thank You
Dejan
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Config.sys parameters is my Question. What is it or are they?
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 16:33:18 GMT
"G. Eugene Mitchell" wrote:
>
> I am practicing on a pentium pci/isa.
> Can't seem to boot up from dos.
> too many unknowns.
> Thanks in advance.
> P.S.
>
> I am using Windows 95, upgrade.
What does this have to do with Linux? Unless you can relate some
sort of problem -- perhaps from a messed-up Linux installation --
ask in a Windows group. When you do go to a Windows group, they'll
still need more information than that.
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From: "Donald B. McGee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: telnetd: All network ports in use
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 17:22:54 GMT
Thanks.
This is exactly what was wrong. Unix98 ptys were set by default in the
new 2.2.15 kernel configuration, so I just accepted them and never
modified fstab. I assume the earlier 2.2.5 kernel in RedHat 6.0 was
based on the older ptys and so didn't add the appropriate fstab entry.
Donald
Steve Houseman wrote:
> There was an old problem that pty's werent correctly config'd that
> gave this (misleading) message ...
>
> If system config'd for unit98 pty's : is there an fstab entry for
>
> none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
>
> AND does /dev/ptmx exist ?
>
> #lsa /dev/ptmx
> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 5, 2 Dec 22 11:31 /dev/ptmx
>
> Hope you fix it soon,
>
> Steve Houseman
>
> --
>
> currently steve.houseman at virgin net
--
Donald B. McGee
XFI Corporation
www.xfi.com
206.729.7478
206.524.3044 fax
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot guess host type
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 12:13:06 -0500
Michael Tefft wrote:
>
> When running ./configure while trying to install parted-1.0.13 (and
> several other programs) on Mandrake 7.0 I get the message:
> checking host system type... configure: error: can not guess host type;
> you must specify one. Huh ? I do not know what it means
> when it says host type. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I'm not sure what that means, but you could try
uname -a
which will give you a variety of information about your system.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: kernel with CDROM support
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 12:25:15 -0500
I'm trying to compile a 2.0.34 kernel (yes, I know its an old one) with
support for a Mitsumi CDROM. The problem is that the supplied driver uses
an I/O port of 0x300 and my drive is set on 0x340. I thought that I could
just go into the file mcdx.h and change MCDX_IO_BEGIN from 0x300 to 0x340,
but after compiling and rebooting, the kernel was still looking for the
CDROM at 0x300.
A module will allow me to set to address, and that works just fine, but
I'd rather have everything in the kernel. I use loadlin to go into linux
and, as far as I know, loadlin will not allow me to set any parameters as
LILO does.
Any suggestions, or am I just stuck with using a module?
Steve
--
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USER ADMINISTRATION
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 13:32:05 -0400
Dejan Adelsberger wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I am using SuSe 6.4 Linux. I would like to know how can I create user/s
> wich would have the same rights as the root.
> It would be great to recive an ansver ASAP.
>
> Thank You
>
> Dejan
It is trivial to do that, but you would be crazy to want to. The security
implications are staggering.
--
Jean-David Beyer .~.
Shrewsbury, New Jersey /V\
Registered Linux User 85642. /( )\
Registered Machine 73926. ^^-^^
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From: "Kevin Vandersloot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Icons garbled after gnome-libs upgrade
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 17:34:22 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Volker St�rzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> after upgrading gnome-libs from 1.0.8 to 1.2.4
> the icons for buttons and menus look totally
> garbled. They seem to be heavily shrinked and
> appear several times. Does anybody know this
> effect? Is there any solution?
>
> An upgrade of imlib to 1.9.8.1 and libpng to
> 1.0.8 didn't help.
>
> P.S.: The png-files of the icons in the
> directory libgnomeui/pixmaps can be correctly
> viewed with XView.
>
> --
> Volker Stuerzl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try upgrading gnome-core and gdk-pixbuf
also
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From: "Julio C. Rincon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Partiton Problem
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 17:37:36 GMT
I was using Partition Magic 3.xx and couldn't setup Linux logical
partitions. I upgraded the software from their website to version 5.0
and easily setup my Linux logical partitions. I'm not sure this will
help you but the latest version of the software appears to handle
non-windows partitions better then the old version.
Julio.
Martin Racette wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I've installed Mandrake 7.1, and since I
> let it create it's own partitions
> instead of creating them with Partition
> Magic, I have a problem with the other
> partition on that same disk. I can't
> access them with Partition Magic, nor
> with OS/2's FDISK.
>
> The error message I have with Partition
> Magic is as follow:
>
> "This error occurs under some operating
> systems when logical partitions are not
> chained together in the expected order.
> DOS, OS/2, Windows 95, Windows 98, and
> Windows NT require that logical
> partitions be chained together in
> ascending order. Some other operating
> systems do not require this. For
> example, some versions of the Linux
> FDISK utility chain logical partitions
> together in the order they are created.
> This error message identifies a very
> dangerous situation; using the DOS FDISK
> in this situation can cause loss of one
> or more partitions. "
>
> I need to resize some of the partitions
> that are access with OS/2, and WIN98
>
> If you have any advise how to correct
> this I would appreciate
>
> //-------------------------
> Thank you in advance
>
> Merci a l'avance
>
> Martin
>
> ICQ #48552954
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.mach,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Operating systems for personal-computers?
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 18:10:26 GMT
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:16:18 +0100, Kelly and Sandy wrote:
> I think the KDE GUI is delightful work. In my
> ever-so-'umble opinion (IMHO), X-Windows Linux is still too geeky,
> hmm, that's too weak a word for it. Obstinate, officious, and
> snitty. However... that KDE... whew... despite it's geekdom
> 15-year-old-appealing "taskbar", the KDE-based Linux system is
> _nearly_ usable and useful to a computer literate (but non-"IT")
> person. But it's hardly something to choose for
> [...]
> The astronomer Dr Rachael Padman has
> written an article mourning the decision taken in her scientific
> circles to abandon VMS and jump onto the UNIX bandwagon, and in
> the process given a wonderfully honest appraisal of UNIX: A
> command-line system which kicks off by replying that the word 'help'
> is not meaningful.
I read Padman's article. She falls into a certain set of people who
want computers, computing products, and the computer industry to be
people-oriented. Unfortunately, I frequently observe a preponderance
of women with this attitude (thankfully none of my IT coworkers); it
takes on a kind of motherly, clucking, excessively "wise" attitude that
what really matters in any discussion is the "human" element, "human"
meaning here whether people feel good about themselves and get along
(as opposed to, for example, developing their full potential, creating
a better future, pursuing absolutes which they've identified as being
valuable... put harshly, the attitude is relativistic whining of the
kind usually used by the self-indulgent to justify their own
dysfunction).
Now, this can be forgiven in the non-computer-literate population at
large at least insofar as, if they're involved with computers, it's
for mild office use, or home use to entertain themselves or help them
with life's little tasks. But, it's disturbing that someone from the
scientific community, who has probably used the internet daily for
years, starting long before the net "revolution" of the early 90's,
forgets:
without UNIX,
- the internet would not exist. It was the platform on which most of
the development of the protocols the internet is based on took place
- the software environments, from email to GUIs, which millions of the
"humans" these folks elect themselves as advocates for use, would not
exist, or would exist only in primitive, unrecognizable form. UNIX
was the platform on which they went from research prototypes to
functional commercial technologies usable by millions.
- the systems which those millions of "humans" use daily would not
exist. WinNT is based on technology developed in a UNIX derivative.
Windows and DOS were crippled knockoffs of various elements of UNIX.
UNIX is the point of origin of most of the fundamental features of
modern operating systems. Its competition is cretinous in comparison,
and the market segments that have the most stringent requirements on
software performance and reliability vote with their feet, they buy
UNIX.
Maybe Dr. Padman, in her academic environment, has experienced that
vital infrastructure without which day-to-day operations of an
organization, be it a department or a company, can't proceed, is
frequently ignored (along with the people supporting it) in favor of
activities which have high visibility or otherwise highlight the
penis size of some individual or organization. She needs to pick up
on the fact that "user-friendly" is skin deep when it comes to software,
and that the services she's been using daily for years wouldn't exist
without software which focused on computing's "big science" issues,
as opposed to computing's version of comicbook physics. There's
user-friendly software out there, if she and other can't find it, they
should educate themselves and search it out; in the process, they might
gain a deeper and more substantial understanding of the technology
they depend on.
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Before you buy.
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From: Clive DaSilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux can't boot
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 14:28:19 -0400
Lu
try this, boot with a linux boot floppy, then as root type lilo to
reset your lilo parameters. Seems as if the lilo config on your
computer might have gotten corrupted
lu tong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>hi,
> My redhat linux can't boot again! After I defragment the dos patition!!
>
> when I boot with Lilo,occurs the follwing
>
>Lilo:linux
>linux........
>
>then stop,
>
>And I boot with boot disk, occurs the follwing
>
> attemp to access beyong end of device
> Ext-fs: Unable to read superblock
> kenel panic: VFS unable to mount roots
>
>It's any method to settle this probelm!
>
> I ran the fdisk of linux ,and then
> found that the patition of linux disspeared.
>
> What had happened?
> Is that mean all information lost?
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Book to learn about Server-Side Apps?
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 18:19:08 GMT
If you know C, you could use CGI to interface between your
webpages and your C programs.
Cgi Programming in C & Perl:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201422190/jamesthorntoncom
CGI: Internet Programming in C++ and C:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0137123582/jamesthorntoncom
But, most people find that Perl is the best language for CGI, and
O'Reilly's latest edition is probably the best book for CGI/Perl.
CGI Programming with Perl, 2nd Edition:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565924193/jamesthorntoncom
Also, PHP is strongly influenced by C -- its syntax is derived from C.
Web Application Development with PHP 4.0:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735709971/jamesthorntoncom
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mitchell Timin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I noticed that you mentioned
Python, which
> I am currently learning. I want to create a server-based application
which
> does quite a bit of processing triggered by requests from many
users. Each
> user request would generate a response to be sent back to the user.
The
> application would make heavy use of a database; I plan to use
Oracle. Each
> transaction with a user would fetch and often update data in the DB.
I plan
> to run this under linux on a fast PC.
>
> My past programming experience was mostly in C during 1980-1995. I
used to
> know C very well. Now I'm halfway through "Learning Python" from
O'Reilly,
> but I haven't done any Python programming yet.
>
> Any words of wisdom will be appreciated.
>
> m
>
> Christopher Browne wrote:
>
> > Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Mitchell Timin would
say:
> > >Can someone recommend such a book? I'm an out-of-date programmer.
> > >I don't know CGI, PHP, XML, or most of the other acronyms involved
in
> > >active websites. I would like to understand how it all works.
> >
> > There are a number of major "approaches" to different kinds of
> > server-based applications, so that the software good for one thing
> > may be pretty poorly suited to another.
> >
> > The sorts of things to consider include:
> > -> Are you going to have a database for storing information?
> > What data will be in there, and how do you plan to integrate it
> > into the application?
> >
> > -> How do you plan to manage the text that is to be presented to
> > users of the system? Some schemes involve pushing that into
> > the database, and having things strongly tied to the DBMS.
> > Others involve having "files" containing templates. Still
> > others involve creating closures, where the point of the
> > exercise is to write programs that then write programs to
> > generate HTML.
> >
> > That's a _big_ mouthful, and only _starts_ to characterize
> > the differences between web apps.
> >
> > -> XML comes into the picture when you want to have pieces of
> > the system communicate with one another, transferring
> > application-specific kinds of documents around. I'd suggest
> > that you not start with this, at least not immediately, as
> > it tends to leap you into the "frying pan" of having to
> > design your own computer language (e.g. - DTD/Schema), and
> > if you're not yet clear on things like CGI and other ways of
> > doing server-side processing, this may expand the complexity
> > of the application too high for you to initially cope with.
> >
> > -> Note that there tends to be more than one way to accomplish
> > things. CGI, the original way of making servers "do work," tends
> > to get a "bad rap" as being inefficient due to the inefficient
ways
> > that it is often implemented. People then conclude that "CGI
> > is inefficient, and we must strew salt on the earth so we never
> > seriously consider using anything like it," whilst things like
> > the FastCGI "protocol" make it possible to make virtually
> > identical implementation strategies work entirely faster.
> >
> > You might try installing a Linux distribution on a box, along with:
> > a) Apache, the "commonly deployed" web server;
> > b) PHP3, one of the common web app implementation schemes;
> > c) Perl and Python, two of the most popular "scripting languages"
> > commonly used to build web apps;
> > d) Try out some further web app scheme like Zope, to see some
> > different strategies.
> > --
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
> > Why do we wash bath towels, aren't we clean when we use them?
>
>
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From: "jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Data repository?
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:39:10 -0700
In my software searches, I have not been able to find a "data repository."
I'm looking for something vaguely like Info Select, but simpler would be ok,
and a command line interface would be fine. Mainly just a place to easily
store and quickly search and retrieve from lots of bits of diverse text
information. Any suggestions?
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 05 Aug 2000 14:51:29 -0400
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jonathan Thornburg wrote:
> > And that Red Hat allows you to use the same boxed set for more than
> > one machine. (This makes a *big* difference in the cost when you have
> > a network of N machines.)
> >
>
> The arguement of costs is not important at all.
>
> At least for any real businesses.
>
> You see. Business software is part of the business expenses, so, they're
> tax deductable.
Tax deductable does not mean tax credit. If a business pays tax at a
marginal rate of 30%, then even if this is true they still pay 70% of
the cost. But I suspect that this is fanciful anyway.
--
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton
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From: "A J Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SCSI Timeout Problems
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 04:46:38 +1000
Hi
I have a linux box with two SCSI drives on it. Today I got some messages in
the system logs that worry me (see below). Can anybody please explain what
might be happening? If it is a problem, how do I fix it?
The SCSI card is an Adaptec AHA-2940 and the drives are Seagate Hawks
ST31230N and ST31200N.
Thanks
Austin
Aug 6 04:02:30 shl-1486 kernel: (scsi0:0:0:0) Performing Domain validation.
Aug 6 04:02:30 shl-1486 kernel: (scsi0:0:0:0) Successfully completed Domain
validation.
Aug 6 04:02:30 shl-1486 kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
pid 48716, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 0x08 1f 74 44 02 00
Aug 6 04:02:46 shl-1486 kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
pid 48799, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 0x0a 1e 06 64 04 00
Aug 6 04:02:46 shl-1486 kernel: (scsi0:0:0:0) No active SCB for
reconnecting target - Issuing BUS DEVICE RESET.
Aug 6 04:02:46 shl-1486 kernel: (scsi0:0:0:0) SAVED_TCL=0x0,
ARG_1=0x14, SEQADDR=0xf8
Aug 6 04:02:46 shl-1486 kernel: (scsi0:0:0:0) Performing Domain validation.
Aug 6 04:02:46 shl-1486 kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
pid 48803, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 0x0a 1e 46 54 04 00
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: (scsi0:0:0:0) Synchronous at 10.0
Mbyte/sec, offset 15.
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: (scsi0:0:0:0) reducing SCSI transfer speed
due to Domain validation failure.
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: (scsi0:0:0:0) Performing Domain validation.
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: (scsi0:0:0:0) Successfully completed Domain
validation.
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun
0 return code = 28000002
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: Current error sd08:04: sns = f0 5
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: ASC=21 ASCQ= 0
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: Raw sense data:0xf0 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x1f
0x74 0x44 0x0a 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x21 0x00 0x01 0xc0
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:04, sector
355844
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: EXT2-fs error (device sd(8,4)):
ext2_readdir: directory #42841 contains a hole at offset 0
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun
0 return code = 28000002
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: Current error sd08:04: sns = f0 5
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: ASC=21 ASCQ= 0
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: Raw sense data:0xf0 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x1f
0x74 0x44 0x0a 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x21 0x00 0x01 0xc0
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:04, sector
355844
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun
0 return code = 28000002
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: Current error sd08:04: sns = f0 5
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: ASC=21 ASCQ= 0
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: Raw sense data:0xf0 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x1f
0x74 0x44 0x0a 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x21 0x00 0x01 0xc0
Aug 6 04:02:50 shl-1486 kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:04, sector
355844
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From: "jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USER ADMINISTRATION
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:46:27 -0700
As a (preferred) alternative, check out "man su". su gives any user
temporary root privileges. I really like things like this, which help keep
me out of trouble without getting in the way.
"Dejan Adelsberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8mhfbn$3e5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello!
>
> I am using SuSe 6.4 Linux. I would like to know how can I create
user/s
> wich would have the same rights as the root.
> It would be great to recive an ansver ASAP.
>
> Thank You
>
> Dejan
>
>
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 17:42:35 GMT
> Tax laws vary from one country to another, but in the ones I'm familiar
> with, 100% of business expenses are tax deductible, and typical marginal
> corporate tax rates are around 50%, so the public at large ends up paying
> 50% of the cost (as a tax deduction from govt revenue), and the business
> ends up paying the other 50% of the cost.
By that line of reasoning businesses should be enthusiastic supporters of
higher corporate income tax rates: if the rate was 90% the "public at
large" would be paying 90% of the company's expenses.
The fact is, the company pays 100% of its expenses and the government then
takes half of what is left (what is an expense is quite a complex question,
but there is no doubt that the purchase of business software is).
If a company subject to 50% income tax saves $1,000,000 by using Linux
instead of Windows, the managers can choose to increase profits by
$1,000,000 and make the shareholders happy by paying out an additional
$500,000 in dividends but incurring a $500,000 tax expense, spend the
$1,000,000 on something else thereby increasing the value of the company,
or anything in between. A $1,000,000 saving is equivalent to $1,000,000 in
increased revenue, not $500,000 as you seem to be saying.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 18:54:50 GMT
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 23:25:25 GMT, Svend Olaf Mikkelsen wrote:
>>Would you mind backing this statement up with some facts, please?
>
>In this case there is no other possible explanation than cyclic
>partition tables.
To quote another respondant; rubbish. I told you already that I created
partitions using Linux's fdisk 2.10f, on which I installed Windoze'98SE.
>A tool that make these is not suitable. If you believe a suitable
>partitioning tool exist for Linux, you are welcome to name one, and I
>will test it, and tell you why it is not.
Linux's FDisk. I've done partition management with it that Windoze's
FDIsk and even PQMAGIC couldn't handle. Both programs bombed with
infinite circle loop error messages, (PQMAGIC just gave an error
number and quit, while Windoze's FDISK told me that I couldn't remove
the extended partition because logical volumes existed, but that I
couldn't remove logical volumes because none existed).
With Linux's FDISK I removed all partitions, created a PRI DOS partition
typed as FAT32 on which I installed Windoze'98SE + Plus!
>>I partitioned both a 6 and 4 GIG HDD with SuSE Linux 6.4, installed
>>SuSE, then installed Win'98SE on the FAT32 partition I'd previously
>>created with SuSE. Both OSs boot without any problems. Windoze doesn't
>>see my ext2 or swap partitions, which is exactly the behaviour I was
>>looking for.
>
>This is a matter of luck. The remarks in the fdisk manual page
>(version 2.9y) can be extended to other Linux partitioning tools as
>well:
Taken out of context. They're talking about other partition types such
as BSD ("slices" they call them, and can't be seen by Windoze FDISK
or PQMAGIC from what I've seen) and "other non-DOS partition tables."
>>His problem more likely lies in the fact that his system (BIOS) is too
>>old to recognize the large HDD. The fact that in the first place he
>>could only see 8GB should have been the first clue. Installing Windoze
>>on it was likely his first mistake.
>There is no way missing BIOS support for disks larger than 8 GB could
>have any influence in this case. If this is attempted, and it
>succeeds, it is a matter of luck. Something then was done differently.
I suggest you do some reading when it comes to BIOS support for large
HDDs. You are completely, and without a doubt incorrect. Missing BIOS
support for the drive has everything to do with the problem at hand.
The BIOS is the first thing that has to look at the hardware during
POST, and then towards the boot process.
The drive was detected as an 8G drive. This indicates a problem with the
BIOS. As a result, the partitioning utility used would have created
partitions conflicting with the BIOS values, thus created mass system
confusion.
There is no doubt in my mind that you are incorrect on this matter. I've
upgraded motherboards for customers who've experienced this same problem
when attempting to install 20, 30, or even 40G HDDs in older systems. I
do this for a living, thus I speak from personal professional experience.
The only thing he could attempt to save himself a BIOS/mobo upgrade would
be to manually enter the parameters for the drive, rather than allowing
the BIOS to auto-detect. Some systems will allow this and detect the drive
at proper size, but they're very definately the exception, rather than the
rule.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
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Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test5
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Subject: Re: USER ADMINISTRATION
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 19:00:05 GMT
"Dejan Adelsberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' Hello!
'
' I am using SuSe 6.4 Linux. I would like to know how can I create user/s
' wich would have the same rights as the root.
' It would be great to recive an ansver ASAP.
You can't. However, man sudo. As root, you can add users to the sudo
list with visudo. They go in the /etc/sudoers file. That file *must*
be edited by visudo as root.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
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The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
--- Devon Miller
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