Linux-Misc Digest #352, Volume #27 Tue, 13 Mar 01 17:13:01 EST
Contents:
Lilo Booting problem ("Bo Jacobsen")
e-mail footer ("Tomasz Chmielewski")
help with configuring XDM on redhat 7 (Hung Ngoc Lai)
Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Steve Lamb)
Re: KDE must learn from GNOME ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: CD incremental Backup strategy (* Tong *)
Re: Less space used by Reiserfs (Kevin)
record phone conversation (John Hunter)
Configuring Pine. (Mordak)
videoconferencing ("Tomasz Chmielewski")
bind ("Tomasz Chmielewski")
Re: 2 gripes that i can't fix (Glitch)
Books on Unix Kernel for non-programmer. ("J.Smith")
Re: Memory and other hardware tests? (John Thompson)
Re: Tar for backups - How big? (John Thompson)
Re: No swap being used (John Thompson)
Re: Books on Unix Kernel for non-programmer. (David Ma)
Re: mhstore/OE attachment conflict (Ray DeGennaro)
Re: Less space used by Reiserfs ("The Spook")
Re: bind ("The Spook")
cp -pdR or find | cpio (* Tong *)
Re: How to "preload a glibc shared object"? ("Arthur H. Gold")
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From: "Bo Jacobsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lilo Booting problem
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:10:02 +0100
Hi,
I have resently changed the motherboard on a Linux machine, but when I tried
to boot the machine it only came as far as "LI" and froze.
I thought, well maybe it has something to do with the kernel not compiled to
the new
processor type so I booted the system from the cdroms (I use Suse 7.0 kernel
2.2.16) and
compiled the kernel (and modules) to the new cpu type. Running LILO and
booting again
just froze the system once more displaying "LI". In the Suse manual I have
read that
it could have something to do with geometry mismatch or because of a moved
/boot/boot.b.
I checked the harddisk specs in the motherboard BIOS and compared it to the
old specs on
the old motherboard and it was exactly the same.
I then removed (uninstalled) LILO completely from the system and installed
it again. Again
without any change.
When changing the motherboard I made no other changes to the system.
At the moment I have booted the system using the Suse boot cd's and from
there booted the
installed system on the harddisk. Everything is running as usual, but not
being able to boot the
machine without the cd's is terrible.
If anyone has any idears to what the problem could be, and how to solve it,
please forward the info.
I Use SuSE 7.0
The old system: AMD K6-2 350MHz.
"New" system: PII MMX 300MHz.
All the old hardware (nic, vga card etc.) is the same.
Thanks in advance
Bo Jacobsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Tomasz Chmielewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: e-mail footer
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:10:45 +0100
I'm looking for a patch to sendmail/postfix/qmail, whatever, that would
allow me to add a footer to every outgoing e-mail from a local network,
like:
---
my.company.domain - blah blah blah
Regards,
Tomasz Chmielewski
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Hung Ngoc Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with configuring XDM on redhat 7
Date: 13 Mar 2001 19:12:10 GMT
Hi,
I've posted this question a while back but didn't get any response.
I desperately help. I am running RedHat 7.0 and kernel 2.4.2.
I am also running XDM on the linux box. I would like to be able
to use X-win32 (running on Microsoft Windows 98/NT) to logon
to the linux box to run X there. I have the exactly the same scenario
for Redhat Linux 6.1 running on kernel 2.2.18 and everything works
fine there. What do I need to do to make this work on Redhat 7.
Please help. I am desparate...
thanks.
Hung
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:50:45 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:46:39 -0500, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I keep getting the message that the certificate signatures could not be
>verified.
Which has nothing to do with Opera and everything to do with the
certificate. Any page that has that in Opera I can go to with IE or Netscape
and they are equally unable to verify the certificate.
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KDE must learn from GNOME
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:52:42 GMT
peter hinkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dowe Keller wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > >Well, this really is not a KDE v. Gnome situation - the issue lies with
> > >with
> > >the RPM format... I used a debian system once, and was very impressed
> > >with how dpgk (apt-get was just starting to come out) was able to tell me
> > >about all the dependencies, and offered to install all of the packages
> > >that
> > >were required. I've often had some rather inappropriate things to say
> > >about
> > >RPM because of this. I just spent a good chunk of time trying to install
> > >the newer packages for gnome that galeon requires... ALl I had were
> > >similar
> > >packages, but they were too old. However, earch ROM just says it needs
> > >file xyz, but neglects to say where to find it. Aggravating! At least
> > >that is where rpmfind.net comes in very handy... :-)
> > >
> > >Just my two bits worth...
> > >
> > >Kris
> >
> > Your not alone Kris, I am a Redhat user that misses the
> > Ease-of-Use (TM) that Debian's dpkg system offered, IMO rpmfind.net is
> > a poor substitute.
> >
> > BTW: Anyone know where I can get dpkg as an RPM or tarball?
> >
> Why not install dpkg on your redhat box? I have it on my suse box and it
> runs very well....
.. And it's NOT dpkg that is the "good thing" about Debian; it's not
_vastly_ different in functionality from RPM.
The two particularly relevant "good things" about Debian (from a
standpoint of packaging technologies) are:
a) apt, which validates and selects packages based on the dependancies, and
b) The actual set of Debian packages.
Running dpkg on Red Hat or SuSE does somewhere between zero and
nothing to really take advantage of these good things.
--
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"MS apparently now has a team dedicated to tracking problems with
Linux and publicizing them. I guess eventually they'll figure out
this back fires... ;)" -- William Burrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: * Tong * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: CD incremental Backup strategy
Date: 13 Mar 2001 15:55:14 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) writes:
> On 12 Mar 2001 17:47:04 -0400, * Tong * staggered into the Black Sun and
> said:
> >I know that Unix is very good at incremental tape backup. How about
> >backing up to CD? What tools/strategies do you suggest? Please consider
> >both the easy of use when backing up and restoring. any comments?
>
> Multisession CDs? [...] Make sense?
yeah, quite. Now, here is more challenge for you guys. :-)
How about the case that one backup is bigger than one CD? tar and cpio will
tell you when they need another floppy, but when coming to CD,
things are different.
Speaking of using backup tools other than standard tar, cpio &
afio. I'd rather use a simple yet highly reliable one. Browsing
through all "cd backup tools" in tucows (I hate searching in the new
interface in freshmeat BTW), I found one tool boasts that it has
build-in cpio function. It just make me laugh. What's the use of
that when everybody has a cpio already. Besides, console version is
enough. Don't mind long command lines switches because backup should
be able to be invoked by a script/crontab, not the M$ way of
launching some GUI and go through the pain trying to configure it
then rely it working behind the scene and beyond my control. More
over, it seems insane to me assuming everybody is using monster
window manger like KDE, so insisting that one should install that
monster WM before even start restoring the whole system. If you
agree with me, and know/like some of the tools that belong to above
criteria, please tell me. thanks.
FYI, Skimming through 26 "cd backup tools" in tucows, what really
sound great is KBackup, a universal, easy to use backup package for
UNIX.
Among its many features are:
user friendly, menu driven interface and command line interface for inclusion in
omated scripts
high reliability, thanks to using long established tools like afio or tar
automated unattended backups
full or incremental backups
support for tape drives, floppies or removable media, remote backup across networks
support for compression, encryption and double buffering
high portability -- it is a modular shell script
extensive documentation
http://kbackup.sourceforge.net/
--
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- All free contribution & collection & music from the heavens
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin)
Subject: Re: Less space used by Reiserfs
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:57:40 GMT
I had a similar eye opening experience when trying to archive
some source code from an ext2 filesystem to a JAZZ drive's VFAT
file system. My 600MB of ext2 files would *not* fit onto a 2GB
VFAT JAZZ drive. Gulp!
--
Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal
opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.
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Subject: record phone conversation
From: John Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 13 Mar 2001 13:53:52 -0600
I would like the ability to record phone conversations. I can split
my telephone line with a Y-connector and feed one end into my modem.
Is there a way to do this with the modem?
Alternatively, I guess I suppose I could take the headset jack output
from the handset of my telephone and feed it into the line in of my
sound card.
Thanks,
John Hunter
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From: Mordak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Configuring Pine.
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:00:24 GMT
Hi all,
I am new to Pine and want to set it up with my Yahoo! account. I really
enjoy the uncluttered layout, it has a fresh appeal to me.
I have the necessary smtp and pop server addresses, but I can't figure
out how to set up the user name and password in Pine. I am running SuSE
7.1 with 2.4 the Kernel.
Thanks in advance,
Mordak
--
Registered Linux User #200164
http://counter.li.org
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From: "Tomasz Chmielewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: videoconferencing
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:30:26 +0100
Is there any videoconferencing program for Linux, able to communicate
(sound+video) with M$ NetMeeting? (not weird, command-line (?),
videoconferencing 'ohphone'...).
Or, any other videoconferencing program available both for Linux & Windows?
Regards,
Tomasz Chmielewski
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Tomasz Chmielewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bind
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:46:26 +0100
Is it possible to run BIND both as caching name-server and primary name
server, on one machine?
If it is, how?
Regards,
Tomasz Chmielewski
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:20:48 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 gripes that i can't fix
Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> Glitch wrote:
>
>> David wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Glitch wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> 1. I can't for the life of me figure out how to make messages expire
>>>> using Netscape Discussion. My newsgroups keep growing b/c I can't figure
>>>> out how to make the old messages ****ing go away.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone help?
>>>
>>>
>>> Click "view/messages/Threads with unread"
>>
btw, i had to make my messages unthreaded to select 'unread'. I want
them threaded so that isn't an option, not to mention it doesn't make
them really go away, i just can't see them.
>> That option is greyed out in my menu. How do I make it an option? Right
>> now of course All is selected.
>>
>> In Netscape 4.76 there was an option under Preferences for Mail/News
>> where u could set how old messages could be before they expired.
>
>
> True, sort-of. You can set it to anything you like, but it never
> changes it in preferences.js (or whatever it is), and leaves it at 30
> days. I.e., it does not work. I guess they just admitted it in NS 6.
>
so basically the size of my newsgroups is going to grow infinitely
larger b/c I can't make messages expire? I already have close to 20000
messages in C.o.l.a and 10k in .networking.
could i just edit preferences.js manually maybe? I'll try doing that.
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From: "J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Books on Unix Kernel for non-programmer.
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:18:52 +0100
Dear all,
Im looking for some books or web-resources that will help me understand the
*nix kernel in some more detail, and was hoping that posting here would get
me some good tips ;). Im looking for books that will help me understand the
concepts and design decisions, rather than show me the source code. Since im
not a programmer but a simple *nix system administrator, Lions' Commentary
on Unix probably is not what im looking for here. Books that cover the *nix
kernel in general (like BSD or SysV) rather than a specific implementation
(like Solaris kernel) would also be preferred.
Any and all suggestions are more than welcome,
Thanks in advance.
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memory and other hardware tests?
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:12:40 -0600
Leonard Evens wrote:
> We have a dual boot system which runs okay in Linux in level 3 and
> under Windows 98 in Safe mode. It boots under Linux in level 5 going
> into X
> or into Windows, but when you try to do anything it crashes and
> reboots. I presume there is either a memory problem or a problem
> with the video card.
>
> Where can I find a simple memory check program that is more rigorous
> than the initial memory check when the machine is turned on?
>
> Any other suggestions would be helpful.
Try to isolate the problem, eg borrow a different video board to
see if it works, pull out your mem chips one at a time and see if
one of them causes the trouble.
The problem with software testing hardware is that the software
relies on the hardware to function.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tar for backups - How big?
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:49:29 -0600
Michael Heiming wrote:
> Doug Poulin wrote:
> >
> > If I use tar for backing up data (maybe with -z for compression), and I
> > have about 80GB to backup, what do you suppose the size of the
> > compressed archive might be?
>
> Depends on what kind of data you want to compress, you could use -I for
> bzip2 compression, which has better compress ratio then gzip.
>
> Anyway, I wouldn't use compression on backups, only hw compression, if your tape
> supports that. If your tape gets flacky, compressed data will be lost, without
> gzip/bzip2 you will only loose the one file that is broken on your tape.
Although hardware compression is definitely preferrred, you can
use something besides tar to avoid the peoblem you describe. Ie,
"afio" will compress files individually before writing to the
tape so a media error in one file doesn't necessarily affect
anything but that one file.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No swap being used
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:50:59 -0600
Martin Collins wrote:
> I've just noticed that according to "top" although I have 136512k allocated
> as swap 0k is in use.
>
> Is this normal?
Sure. There's no need to use virtual memory if the work can all
be done in real memory.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: David Ma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Books on Unix Kernel for non-programmer.
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:37:50 GMT
Solaris Internals by Jim Mauro
"J.Smith" wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Im looking for some books or web-resources that will help me understand the
> *nix kernel in some more detail, and was hoping that posting here would get
> me some good tips ;). Im looking for books that will help me understand the
> concepts and design decisions, rather than show me the source code. Since im
> not a programmer but a simple *nix system administrator, Lions' Commentary
> on Unix probably is not what im looking for here. Books that cover the *nix
> kernel in general (like BSD or SysV) rather than a specific implementation
> (like Solaris kernel) would also be preferred.
>
> Any and all suggestions are more than welcome,
>
> Thanks in advance.
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From: Ray DeGennaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: mhstore/OE attachment conflict
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:45:51 -0600
In article <1Jcr6.31$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin) wrote:
> You'll have better luck getting an answer on comp.mail.mh
Thanks. Looks like I need to rebuild my newsgroup list.
Ray
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From: "The Spook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Less space used by Reiserfs
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:58:31 +0100
Kevin wrote ...
>I had a similar eye opening experience when trying to archive
>some source code from an ext2 filesystem to a JAZZ drive's VFAT
>file system. My 600MB of ext2 files would *not* fit onto a 2GB
>VFAT JAZZ drive. Gulp!
This might in fact be due to a known problem (feature :-) with VFAT, namely
that the number of directory entries of the root directory of a VFAT
partition is limited to about 512 (I think) FAT directory entries (names not
adhering to the 8.3 original MS-DOS standard takes more than one FAT
directory entry per name).
You'll get a "Disk full" when trying to copy more than the fixed number of
entries to such a partition.
/TRY
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From: "The Spook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bind
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:26:44 +0100
Tomasz Chmielewski wrote ...
>Is it possible to run BIND both as caching name-server and primary name
>server, on one machine?
>If it is, how?
-- Cut --
A primary name server using BIND is automatically a caching name-server too,
i.e. it caches answers to client requests, so the only configuration changes
you'll have to do are on the clients: make them point to your name-server.
/TRY
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From: * Tong * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: cp -pdR or find | cpio
Date: 13 Mar 2001 17:52:06 -0400
Hi,
Seems to me people tend to like the "find | cpio" approach when
copying files. My question is, for cases that a simple "cp -pdR" can
handle, would the "find | cpio" approach has more advantage over it?
I know that the "find | cpio" approach can do more, such as
filtering, but let's limit our discussion to the simple "cp -pdR"
ability.
Thanks
--
Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply)
http://members.xoom.com/suntong001/
- All free contribution & collection & music from the heavens
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:56:27 -0600
From: "Arthur H. Gold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to "preload a glibc shared object"?
Gaurav Navlakha wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying to make RealPlayer run on linux with a
> patch available at www.i2k.com/~jeffd/rpopen. It says that there is a
> shared object that must be preloaded when running RealPlayer.
>
> If someone can please look at this site and figure out and let me know
> how to go about doing this, I should be grateful.
>
You seem to think this is _much_ more complicated than it
actually is. Download the file. Decompress it (`tar zxpvf
<filename>'). Follow the directions in the file README or
INSTALL.
...and relax!
HTH,
--ag
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