Linux-Misc Digest #490, Volume #25 Fri, 18 Aug 00 20:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Modem Troubles (Glitch)
Re: Modem Troubles (Glitch)
Re: Modem Troubles (Glitch)
Re: bash (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Help! Urgent problem with gzip (mst)
Re: kill -9 won't work! (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Can't install Rh 6.1 486 with 15gb hd and Promise Drivemax (Glitch)
Re: nntp: posting not allowed - tin? (Jeff Grossman)
Re: bash (Doug O'Leary)
Re: nntp: posting not allowed - tin? (Doug O'Leary)
Re: Win4Lin: anyone use it with Micro$oft Outlook on Exchange? (rabid_yeti)
Re: Linux crash - bad CPU or disk? (Tim Moore)
http ("Mark")
Re: kill -9 won't work! (David Rysdam)
Re: regex example (David Rysdam)
Re: http (Big Daddy)
Re: Does cdrecord really work with IDE CD-R?? (Tim Moore)
Re: STTY and ERASE ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:33:25 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Modem Troubles
>
> As far as I know, there is no such thing as a PCI "hardware"
> (non-Windows-only) modem. They are all ISA or externals.
actiontec.com has a pci modem that works in os/2 , win3.1+, dos, and
linux. It works in linux just fine for me. It took me a whole 5 minutes
to have it working. They even include instructions in the manual for
linux.
>
> I'm 99.9% sure that this won't work under Linux.
>
> Manufacturers are extremely evasive about how they present these
> modems to the consumer and often the ONLY way you can tell is by
> checking the system requirements on the box or in the docs. If it
> says Windows is required, you're SOL with Linux unless on the
> off-chance it's a Lucent-based modem compatible with the experimental
> "LinModem" driver.
>
> Sorry I can't give you better news.
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:34:32 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem Troubles
I have a pci modem and it works fine in Linux. Cost $105 U.S. Got it
working in 5 minutes.
Vladimir Florinski wrote:
>
> Arclight wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt) writes:
> >
> > >I have not used a PCI modem (just pcmcia),
> >
> > It's a good thing; they're all Windows modems.
>
> Thanks for telling me. I always thought I was running Linux, but apparently it's
> just Windows in disguise. I mean, how else would I be able to use my PCI modem
> to post this message?
> --
>
> Vladimir
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:35:48 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Modem Troubles
the actiontec modem has been on the o2.net/~gromitk/winmodem.html site
for a while now, almost as long as i've had the modem myself which has
been just about a year I believe.
No User wrote:
>
> Doc writes:
>
> >There are several fully-hardware-driven PCI modems on the
> >market now. Actiontech is the only brand I can recall this
> >minute, but there are a couple of others.
>
> These must be quite new; On comp.dcom.modems a few months ago, none
> of the experts could find a single PCI harware modem.
>
> In any case, they are at the very least _rare_ and our friend doesn't
> have one - and others trying to make a modem work on Linux are best
> served by avoiding PCI modems unless they are _positive_ that are
> Linux-capable.
>
> On the other hand, being ISA is no assurance of a modem being a
> hardware modem either. I have seen a number of cheap ISA Windows
> modems lately.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: bash
Date: 18 Aug 2000 17:47:44 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8nk7os$p87$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> is there a way to access command line parameters in alias definition ?
The bash(1) man page says (amongst a lot of other stuff ...):
: There is no mechanism for using arguments in the replace-
: ment text. If arguments are needed, a shell function
: should be used.
--
Paul Kimoto
Disclaimer: Other than explicit citations of URLs, hyperlinks appearing
in this article have been inserted without the permission of the author.
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From: mst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Help! Urgent problem with gzip
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:50:05 -0400
Jan Johansson wrote:
>
> >All he needs is a couple of million computers that can try
> >each possible bit pattern in turn until the file unzips.
> >Conceptually like the SETI project. Seriously: if it was
> >important enough, it could be done. Do you think the CIA
> >would let a little thing like that stop them if they needed
> >the data?
>
> BAFAB could do it, however, it would cost you a few thousand dollars
> (about $1500 just to look at the device and give you a
> estimated-chance-of-recovery) but we have used them for crucial data.
Yes, of course, with enough money (read: computing power) it could be
done... however what he can do _himself_ is pretty much nothing, esp.
given the size of the archive: 180M!
OTOH, the ascii mode for ftp transfers may have been useful in the BBS
era, however, in this age of broadband access, I think it should just be
taken in the backyard and put out of its misery :)
MST
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: kill -9 won't work!
Date: 18 Aug 2000 17:51:20 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8nitjt$7l4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a process running on one of my servers that has obviously gone
> mad, so I wanted to kill it. But even kill -9 doesn't make it go away
> and it continues eating cpu time. Is there an alternative (low level)
> way of killing processes or do I have to reboot the server?
If the process is in the "D" state (see the output of "ps" with an
argument like "u"), then it can't be interrupted, even by "kill -9".
You will either have to wait (forever?) until the disk activity or
whatever completes, or reboot.
--
Paul Kimoto
Disclaimer: Other than explicit citations of URLs, hyperlinks appearing
in this article have been inserted without the permission of the author.
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:56:09 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't install Rh 6.1 486 with 15gb hd and Promise Drivemax
maybe I don't understand what you are doing fully but there can only be
4 primary partitions on a drive before logical ones start being created.
mike wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I seem to be stuck at the disk partitioning part of the install
> using the Redhat 6.1 cd. What seems to be happening is
> that Disk Druid is adding the partitions as primary partitions.
> In my past experience with other systems, Disk Druid adds
> additional partitions as logical partition, I think. Not primary ones.
> I can't see where there is an option to add partitions as
> logical / extended partitions. At one point it said "No free
> Primary Partitions". This was where I wanted to create 4 or
> more partitions. When I tried to set up only a "/" and a "swap"
> partition, it said " Not enough space"
> I upgraded my Gateway 486 by adding a Promise Drivemax
> card to extend the bios to allow up 128 GB hard drives. I added
> a 15 GB IBM 7200 rpm hard drive. So far I was able to install
> Win95 C on the system without problems and Windows
> recognized all the hard drive space. I am using about 8 GB for
> Win95 as 4 partitions. (Win c:, d:, e:, f:) (Linux: hda1, hda5, hda6,
> hda7)
> The way it appears now, either there is a problem with Disk Druid,
> in which case maybe it's possible to use Linux FDISK or the like,
> or the Promise Drivemax does not work with Linux.
>
> Thanks
> Mike
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From: Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: nntp: posting not allowed - tin?
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:15:36 -0700
Doug O'Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hey;
: I've got a curious problem using tin. I'm using randori's news server
: and quite a few news clients depending on where I happen to be when I'm
: trying to read the newsgroups.
: The only one that I have an issue with is tin on my Mandrake 6.0 Linux
: box. When I execute tin, I get an immediate message stating that
: "Posting's not allowed", then it asks for the authentication.
: I zapped off a msg to Randori who responded with "Get the latest version
: of tin". I'm using 1.4.2, which was the latest I was able to find.
: Anyone got any ideas on what might be causing the problem? I'm kind of
: fond of tin - primarily because it's an ascii newsreader and organizes
: the threads.
: I've tried slrn; however, wasn't able to figure out how to make it do the
: authentication that I need for Randori. Maybe that's another avenue I
: can take.
: Any hints/tips/suggestions greatly appreciated.
: Doug
The latest version that I am aware of is 1.4.4. You can either download
that from www.tin.org or from my ftp site at
ftp://ftp.stikman.com/pub/tin/tinv1.4
Jeff
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Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Doug O'Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bash
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:44:16 -0700
In article <8nk7os$p87$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hi,
>
> is there a way to access command line parameters in alias definition ?
You mean like $0 $1 $2? Not sure what you mean by alias definition.
Doug
--
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Douglas K. O'Leary
Senior System Admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Doug O'Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: nntp: posting not allowed - tin?
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:49:59 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> The latest version that I am aware of is 1.4.4. You can either download
> that from www.tin.org or from my ftp site at
> ftp://ftp.stikman.com/pub/tin/tinv1.4
Hey;
Thanks for the input. I downloaded the newer version, compiled, and
installed with the same result. It's got to be something fairly simple,
but, for the life of me, I can't figure it out.
Thanks, though.
Doug
--
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Douglas K. O'Leary
Senior System Admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Win4Lin: anyone use it with Micro$oft Outlook on Exchange?
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
From: rabid_yeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:45:47 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam Finkelstein) wrote:
> Good day folks in Linux-land.
> Win4Lin has received good reviews--a good way to run Micro$oft apps on =
a
> Linux box. Has anyone used it on a network where they then accessed Out=
look?
> Specifically, the mail and calendar functions in Outlook?=20
>=20
> I'd love to hear your experiences--I'v got to run Outlook. I'd much rat=
her
> run it from within my Linux box.=20
>=20
> Thanks!
> Adam
I use it, I like it, the only problems I have had are with games needing
Directx and as I stated in an earlier post, I am experimenting with an
installation of directx 7.0 I just installed and on my faster machine, I =
might
be closer to overcoming that as well.
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From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux crash - bad CPU or disk?
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:48:45 GMT
> I've got a 3 month old installation of Mandrake 7.0 (2.2.14) on a PII
> 233 with an 8.4GB disk. In the last couple of days, the system has
> frozen solid, forcing a hard reboot.
>
> Is this indicative of a bad cpu? Scrolling through Netscape, untaring a
> file, etc. Any event seems to bung it up. I've not added any new
> software or done any system updates in the last three months. I'm
> fearful that it's the disk, as any attempt to copy the contents of my
> home partition (/dev/hdc3) to another disk causes a freeze.
>
> I have Win95 on my first disk, and have been unable to cause it to
> freeze, no matter what.
Assuming linux is on a different disk it could be a failing disk. Try
'dmesg' or manually look through /var/log/messages for errors just
before a freeze. It would be helpful if you posted these.
CPU's and memory errors generally are evident immediately after the
respective hardware is installed, but rarely go 'bad' after. It could
also be an IRQ conflict from something that you changed but don't
remember as significant.
--
timothymoore
bigfoot
com
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From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: http
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:56:42 -0400
I set up apache and I tested it out by typing in http://192.xxx.xxx.xxx
and it worked on my work network. But why is it that if I go home and type
in the same thing I can't go to that page?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Rysdam)
Subject: Re: kill -9 won't work!
Date: 18 Aug 2000 22:35:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It depends on what the process is doing. For instance, one of the
ways you can get an unkillable process is if an NFS mount goes away.
Bring it back and the process might resume.
You might also try renicing the process to a very very low
priority--it'll use less resources that way (although it may not
really be using any now).
Otherwise, rebooting is the only option.
And [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spoke:
>Hi there,
>
>I have a process running on one of my servers that has obviously gone
>mad, so I wanted to kill it. But even kill -9 doesn't make it go away
>and it continues eating cpu time. Is there an alternative (low level)
>way of killing processes or do I have to reboot the server?
>
>Thanks in advance for helping.
>
>Christian
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
--
My public encryption key is available from www.keyserver.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Rysdam)
Subject: Re: regex example
Date: 18 Aug 2000 22:40:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And john slimick Spoke:
>I'm trying to include the use of
>regex into some course material
>and the man page is very terse.
>
>Could someone provide an example
>of the regcomp input string
>that matches the usual style
>phone number of
>
> (xxx)xxx-xxxx
>
>where I can capture the
>the starting and ending indices
>of the three
>numeric fields.
>
>I am baffled at the use of
>parentheses here -- if \( \)
>delimits a sub-expression
>then how do I quote the parens
>around the area code?
>
>I've searched unsuccessfully for
>the GNU regex manual (ref. by the man page)
>and I am confused by the difference
>between GNU and POSIX (which is
>what I have available in RH 6.0?).
>
You haven't mentioned what tool you are using so I'll do something
that grep can handle.
([0-9][0-9][0-9])[0-9][0-9][0-9]-[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]
This is clearly the simple-minded way, but it works--although only for
phone #'s that EXACTLY match what you gave as an example.
--
My public encryption key is available from www.keyserver.net
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From: Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: http
Date: 18 Aug 2000 23:41:48 GMT
Scribbling furiously, Mark managed to write....
: I set up apache and I tested it out by typing in http://192.xxx.xxx.xxx
: and it worked on my work network. But why is it that if I go home and type
: in the same thing I can't go to that page?
192.x.x.x is more likely than not an internal IP address at on your
local network at work. E.g., not available outside.
--
Big Daddy
An optimist thinks that this is the best possible world. A pessimist fears
that this is true.
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From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,mailing.comp.cdwrite
Subject: Re: Does cdrecord really work with IDE CD-R??
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:49:44 GMT
Well, the author strongly suggests SCSI emulation which absolutely does
work.
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdrecord.html
Kernel config: select
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI, CONFIG_SCSI, CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR,
CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS; deselect CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD.
[dmesg]
hdd: YAMAHA CRW4416E, ATAPI CDROM drive
...
scsi1 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
Vendor: YAMAHA Model: CRW4416E Rev: 1.0e
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 16x/16x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.56
[/dev links - Note that I have only a single CD-R and so point both
/dev/cdrom and /dev/cdr to the actual device. /dev/hdd is invalid under
SCSI emulation.]
> ls -l /dev/cdrom
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jul 22 00:35 /dev/cdrom ->
sr0
> ls -l /dev/cdr
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Jul 22 00:35 /dev/cdr ->
cdrom
> grep cd /etc/fstab
/dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0
/dev/cdr /cdr iso9660 defaults,rw,user,noauto 0 0
Arnold Selby wrote:
>
> I have failed bout 40 timess in succession attempting to write the
> same 7 audio wav files
> to various (memorex and TDK) CDRs.
> After 4 coasters, I shifted to -dummy.
>
> I have tried cdrecord 1.8, 1.9 and 1.10a; and have also upgraded my
> drive to the latest firmware on my mitsumi
>
> the annoyance and frustration is that cdrecord will fail (almost)
> every time, but it will fail writing different
> tracks. Once (only once), it did dummy-write all tracks, but on a
> retest, it failed.
> If it would fail consistantly, i would have given up sooner
> arnold
--
timothymoore
bigfoot
com
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: STTY and ERASE
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:52:24 -0500
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, NF Stevens quoth:
~~ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:30:30 GMT
~~ From: NF Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Re: STTY and ERASE
~~
~~ f"Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
~~
~~ [snip]
~~ >
~~ >~~ >
~~ >~~ >as for X, rxvt can be configured at compile time. i have this in my
~~ >~~ >.xdefaults, but i try to use ^? everywhere (since emacs uses ^H as the
~~ >~~ >help function).
~~ >~~
~~ >~~ Then emacs is broken. ^H is in the ascii character set as backspace.
~~ >~~ If a piece of software cannot even adhere to the most basic standards
~~ >~~ then it should fixed.
~~ >
~~ >I am curious, which standard would that be?
~~ >
~~ ascii
What I mean is that ASCII maps BS to:
Octal: \010
Hex: 0x08
Decimal: 8
Char: \b
But I do not believe that USASI ever stated that BS must have
a destructive effect on the character immediately before the
cursor. Does anyone have a copy of the standard so we can put
this to bed?
anm
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