Linux-Misc Digest #490, Volume #27               Sat, 31 Mar 01 03:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: does Corel-Linux use apt-get ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: LILO hangs (not in the usual way) (Joe)
  undelete testing (SolarisCert)
  Re: undelete testing (Francois Labreque)
  Class action against Red Hat (Gilles Pelletier)
  Re: Slide Show?? (Chris Coyle)
  Re: Adding a Disk to a Striped RAID0 (Mike Vore)
  Re: /boot directory ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: My Final Question (most likely) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Reinstalling Win98 on a dual boot system (Roger Levy)
  Re: Reinstalling Win98 on a dual boot system ("Jeremy Paiz")
  Re: strange file metamorphose (pirxmcci)
  Re: Reinstalling Win98 on a dual boot system (Phil Cowans)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: does Corel-Linux use apt-get
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:19:01 GMT

Ralph Brands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've only used linuxppc on Macs so far, but I'm getting an Intel laptop
> and standardizing on some other Linux in the hopes of finally actually
> being able to print a file in Linux.
> 
> I was intrigued by Nicholas Petreley's article in Linuxworld about the
> Debian upgrade system "apt-get", getting around the dependency problems
> with rpm installations I've encountered lots in linuxppc. The
> Corel-Linux distribution is apparently based on Debian. Does "apt-get"
> work in Corel-Linux or are you constrained to use the Corel
> install/update utility?

apt-get does indeed work on Corel-Linux.

I have a laptop (Toshiba Satellite 2105CDS) where, at a point in time
a while back, the only distribution of Linux I could get to function
well on it was Corel Linux.  I did installs of Caldera, RHAT, SuSE,
TurboLinux, and even, briefly, OpenBSD.  I didn't have a working X or
rebootable system 'til I put Corel onto it.  [The reasons were true
enough, in December 1999, but are no longer so in 2001...]

I was then able to toss all sorts of stuff onto that laptop using
apt-get, notably including upgrading it to pretty much be "Debian
unstable."

I recently redid the install with recent Debian; I can't strongly
recommend Corel Linux, as it's using pretty old versions of stuff, and
is _extremely__ deficient in terms of development tools.  But all that
said, apt-get does indeed work on Corel-Linux.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe)
Subject: Re: LILO hangs (not in the usual way)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:21:05 -0800

Thanks for the tip. I replaced the keyword 'linear' in /etc/lilo.conf 
with 'lba32'. I ran /sbin/lilo and it works fine now.


In article <9a1j7m$hgk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hi Joe
> Do you have a large hdd? Boot with the rescue disk and modify your
> /etc/lilo.conf
> 
> Try to add
> lba32
> 
> Then rerun lilo
> You should get something like:
> 
> Added linux *
> 
> Then try to boot from the disk
> Hope this helps
> 
> Rgds
> Dennis
> "Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >    I have two physical disks, one with linux (redhat 7) at /dev/hdc1 and
> > one with NT at /dev/hda1. I can boot into linux fine with the rescue disk
> > but LILO hangs (stops after the first L) when trying to boot from the
> > hard drive. I checked the docs and it tells me that there should be an
> > error code when it stops after the first L, like L<err number>. There is
> > no error number, just a computer pretending to be a paperweight. Any
> > ideas?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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From: SolarisCert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: undelete testing
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:43:05 +0800

I am implementing undelete testing according to ext2 undelete howto.
But it seems that the testing fails, here are the steps I took:

1) echo > "testing" > /boot/testing
2) rm /boot/testing
3) umount /boot    (do it immediately after removing file)
4) debugfs /dev/hda7
debug: lsdel
1 deleted inodes found.
 Inode  Owner  Mode    Size    Blocks    Time deleted
    25      0 100644      5    1/   1 Fri Mar 30 19:37:53 2001

debug: dump <25> /root/testing.dump

But finally I find that the content of the file testing.dump does not
contain any "testing"
This situation continues after I tried again many times.




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From: Francois Labreque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: undelete testing
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:36:21 -0500



SolarisCert wrote:
> 
> I am implementing undelete testing according to ext2 undelete howto.
> But it seems that the testing fails, here are the steps I took:
> 
> 1) echo > "testing" > /boot/testing
          ^
          |
Unles this is just an email typo, there's your problem!  You echo
nothing to a file called "testing" with the double quotes [Have fun
deleting it!] and then pipe the result of that operation (still
nothing!) to /boot/testing.

Try:

1) echo "testing" > /boot/testing
1.5) cat /boot/testing  (This will make sure that the file DOES contain
the proper string.
2) ...    Proceed as before

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gilles Pelletier)
Subject: Class action against Red Hat
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:18:46 GMT

In exchange for the excessive commissions, the complaint alleges, lead
underwriter The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. and underwriters Credit
Suisse First Boston Corp. and Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith,
Inc. allocated Red Hat shares to customers at the IPO price of $14 per
share. To receive the allocations (i.e., the ability to purchase
shares) at $14, the defendant underwriters' brokerage customers had to
agree to purchase additional shares in the aftermarket at
progressively higher prices. The requirement that customers make
additional purchases at progressively higher prices as the price of
Red Hat stock rocketed upward (a practice known on Wall Street as
``laddering'') was intended to (and did) drive Red Hat's share price
up to artificially high levels. This artificial price inflation, the
complaint alleges, enabled both the underwriters and their customers
to reap enormous profits by buying stock at the $14 IPO price and then
selling it later for a profit at inflated aftermarket prices, which
rose as high as $56.75 during its first day of trading. 

Rather than allowing their customers to keep their profits from the
IPO, the complaint alleges, the defendant underwriters required their
customers to ``kick back'' some of their profits in the form of secret
commissions. These secret commission payments were sometimes
calculated after the fact based on how much profit each investor had
made from his or her IPO stock allocation. 

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010329/2557.html

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From: Chris Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slide Show??
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:56:28 -0500

Jim Bradley wrote:
> 
> I want to create a slide show of jpg images with an approximately 10
> second interval between slides. Is there an easy Linux solution? Or a
> simple javascript solution to enable a browser to do it? I can always
> reload OS/2 on my laptop, and dig out PMView, but I want an easier
> solution that that!! Thanks.

Jim,
gqview does exactly what you're asking.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Vore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Adding a Disk to a Striped RAID0
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:59:54 -0500

I haven't worked with Raid on Linux, but have on Solaris so my view
may be a bit off, but...

If the Raid-0 is striped, and one disk goes bad you will loose
1/<number of disks> 'pieces' of data (the size of the piece depends on
the stripe width.  In other words every 1/n chunks will be missing.
In a text file you may be able to fill in the missing words, but in
anything else ???!  If the Raid-0 is a concatenated raid (yes also
known as raid-0 with Veritas Volume Manager, if a disk goes bad then
from that 'cylinder' of the virtual disk to the first 'cylinder' that
is on the next disk will be missing - lots of clusters.

A bad disk on a striped set would be likened to a radial scratch on a
disk.  A bad disk on a concatenated set is more like a few (many)
cylinders (tracks) missing on a disk.

mike



On 30 Mar 2001 22:48:04 GMT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc KW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I've only used raid 1 and 5 software on my linux stuff and the howto I've
>> got only goes into recovering the 1 or 5 failure.  Is it safe for me to
>> assume that since the raid0 is dependent on all drives (Striped with no
>> parity)that using raidhotadd won't work with the raid0 config?
>
>AFAIK, if *any* of the disks in a raid0 dies, the entire array (as an
>entity) is gone.  It *may* be possible, via some low-level tools, to
>get data off of the surviving drives.  But there'll be no recovery
>of the array itself.
>
>-- 
>Joshua Baker-LePain
>Department of Biomedical Engineering
>Duke University


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: /boot directory
Date: 30 Mar 2001 17:27:17 GMT

Well, I don't know what chain.b is, probably an image or something.  But,
whatever
you do, DO NOT delete modules-info, map, or System.map.  Those are for the
kernel.
But, you can rename System.map and modules-info to whatever you want, as long
as they
stay System.map* and modules-info*.  I have mine as( I don't have
modules-info, don't
know why ) System.map-2.4.1 because I have my kernel Kernel-2.4.1, so that I
can keep
my kernels straight, just in case I decide to test an experimental kernel...

As for what they are, System.map is just a map of all the addresses in kernel
mem
to symbols for calling them from user processes.  I don't know if it is truly
needed,
but just to be safe, don't delete it.  modules-info is just for redhat, so
that you
can configure the kernel at runtime instead at boot time.  Kernel 2.4 does not
use this,
so maybe it is not really needed...If you have redhat, don't delete it.  Map
is still
a mystery to me.

All in all, play it safe.  Don't delete it unless you are positive you don't
need it.

Justin Hibbits

In article <9a00cu$335vh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ren� Scheibe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Can someone tell me what the following files in
>the /boot directory are for:
>    chain.b
>    map
>    modules-info
>    System.map
>
>Do I need them or can I delete some of them.
>(I compiled a kernel without modul-support)
>
>Thanx...
>
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: My Final Question (most likely)
Date: 30 Mar 2001 19:42:07 GMT

Probably a little late, but try upgrading to kernel 2.4.1, it has drivers
internal that you
can add either internal to the kernel itself, or as a module.  Don't forget to
add AGP.

Justin


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>you may have noticed my onslaught of questions over and over about the 
>same thing, well the problem was i am using a rare video card that Linux 
>isnt compatible with, this was the core of my problem. so there will be no 
>more questions of this nature. but i do have one final one, what is this 
>pieice of hardware called:
>
>Intel (R) 810 Chipset Graphics Driver PV1.0
>
>i need to replace it, that's why i need to know. thank you.
>
>
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From: Roger Levy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat
Subject: Reinstalling Win98 on a dual boot system
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:46:41 -0800

Okay, I run a dual-boot RH7.0/Win98 system on a single harddrive
(FIPS-partitioned Windows/boot/swap/Linux), and boot with LILO.  I seem to
have screwed up something important on the Windows side so I'm planning on
reinstalling Windows.  However I seem to remember that this can be
dangerous for the Linux system.  In particular I seem to recall that LILO
can get cavalierly wiped out during a Windows reinstall, but I can't find
any hard information on the topic..  Anyone have experience with this
and/or know what I need to watch out for?

Thanks in advance for any advice.


Roger Levy


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From: "Jeremy Paiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Reinstalling Win98 on a dual boot system
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 02:05:03 -0500
Reply-To: "Jeremy Paiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

with rh7 you were able to specify whether or not to install lilo to the mbr
or to the first sector of /boot.  windows is not that courteous.  windows
will automatically write it's boot info to the mbr without warning.  so,
essentially you will have to reconfigure lilo after re-installing windows.

i'm not sure what else you should be warned of.  i've only dealt with
dual-booting rh7 linux to pre-existing windows systems.  i've never
re-installed windows after the fact.

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"Roger Levy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Okay, I run a dual-boot RH7.0/Win98 system on a single harddrive
> (FIPS-partitioned Windows/boot/swap/Linux), and boot with LILO.  I seem to
> have screwed up something important on the Windows side so I'm planning on
> reinstalling Windows.  However I seem to remember that this can be
> dangerous for the Linux system.  In particular I seem to recall that LILO
> can get cavalierly wiped out during a Windows reinstall, but I can't find
> any hard information on the topic..  Anyone have experience with this
> and/or know what I need to watch out for?
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice.
>
>
> Roger Levy
>



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From: pirxmcci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: strange file metamorphose
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:20:37 +0200

the windows hd:
fdisk -l /dev/hda produces the following:
 
Festplatte /dev/hda: 255 K�pfe, 63 Sektoren, 1046 Zylinder
Einheiten: Zylinder mit 16065 * 512 Bytes
 
    Ger�t Booten  Anfang      Ende   Bl�cke   ID  Dateisystemtyp
/dev/hda1   *         1       426   3421813+   b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda2           427      1046   4980150    f  Win95 Erw. (LBA)
/dev/hda5           427       644   1751053+   b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda6           645      1046   3229033+   b  Win95 FAT32

the linux hd
bash-2.04# fdisk -l /dev/hdb
 
Festplatte /dev/hdb: 255 K�pfe, 63 Sektoren, 1245 Zylinder
Einheiten: Zylinder mit 16065 * 512 Bytes
 
    Ger�t Booten  Anfang      Ende   Bl�cke   ID  Dateisystemtyp
/dev/hdb1             1      1245  10000431    f  Win95 Erw. (LBA)
/dev/hdb5             1         3     24034+  83  Linux
/dev/hdb6             4        20    136521   82  Linux (Auslagerung)
/dev/hdb7            21      1245   9839781   83  Linux

there is an extended partition that contains the linux partitions. i don't 
know if this is correct.
pirx


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Cowans)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Reinstalling Win98 on a dual boot system
Date: 31 Mar 2001 07:22:18 GMT

In article <9a3v90$hi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremy Paiz wrote:
>with rh7 you were able to specify whether or not to install lilo to the mbr
>or to the first sector of /boot.  windows is not that courteous.  windows
>will automatically write it's boot info to the mbr without warning.  so,
>essentially you will have to reconfigure lilo after re-installing windows.

If you make yourself a boot floppy for Linux, then once you've reinstalled 
Windows you can use the floppy to boot into Linux and re-run lilo to 
rewrite the MBR.

Phil

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