Linux-Misc Digest #833, Volume #25               Fri, 22 Sep 00 10:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: no DRQ after issuing WRITE (Robert Kaiser)
  Re: lilo (Andreas K�h�ri)
  Re: Forwarding Linux mail to MS SMTP/Exchange server (Mihaly Gyulai)
  Re: "Exact" time measuring under linux (Jef Peeraer)
  Re: FTP login problems (Fabrice Lhomme)
  Re: Linux Mail Server (Stuart Krivis)
  Re: Finding an rpm. (ray)
  mouse not working in Corel Linux ("Sajith")
  Implications ("paul snow")
  Re: Easily compiling/moving kernel+modules to another computer (-ljl-)
  Re: Linux & SCSI tools ("Roy F. Cabaniss")
  Re: kernel recompile needed, but Mandrake has modified the source... (-ljl-)
  backpack and linux ("Roy F. Cabaniss")
  Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Roberto Alsina)
  Re: SCSI tape drive problem w/ RH 6.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: SCSI tape drive problem w/ RH 6.1 (-ljl-)
  Re: Linux & SCSI tools (Neil Cherry)
  Re: DVD instead of CD reader ?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Kaiser)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.embedded
Subject: Re: no DRQ after issuing WRITE
Date: 22 Sep 2000 08:45:55 GMT

In article <8qdo8a$pkm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Antoine DELIE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have Linux kernel 2.0.30 which is  installed on a Flash Disk IDE 32 M.
> With some flash disk, all is fine.
> With another, I got the message:
> "
> hda status error: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
> hda no DRG after issuing WRITE
> hda status error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error}
> "
> The system works slowly.
> Where is the problem ? Is there a patch.


I have seen similar messages using flashdisks on a 2.2.14 Kernel,
though the system seemed to work normally otherwise. I switched
to using the "Old hard disk (MFM/RLL/IDE) driver" instead of the
"Enhanced" one and the messages disappeared. I believe this option
is availiable for the 2.0.30 kernel as well, so maybe you should
give that a try.


Hope this helps


Rob

================================================================
Robert Kaiser                    email: rkaiser AT sysgo DOT de
SYSGO RTS GmbH                            http://www.elinos.com
Klein-Winternheim / Germany                 http://www.sysgo.de

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Subject: Re: lilo
From: Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Sep 2000 11:17:24 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>adasfadsfasdf
>
>--
>Posted via CNET Help.com
>http://www.help.com/

In that case, I would recommend *both* the LILO manual page and the
LILO mini-HOWTO (<URL:http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/LILO.html>).

Oh, and the "LILO, Linux Crash Rescue HOW-TO" too, just in case...
(<URL:http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/LILO-crash-rescue-HOWTO.html).

/A

-- 
Andreas K�h�ri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>. Junk mail, no.
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What part of "GNU" did you not understand? <URL:http://www.gnu.org/>

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From: Mihaly Gyulai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Forwarding Linux mail to MS SMTP/Exchange server
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:52:35 GMT

In article <8qan4c$u0t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I need to forward e-mail from the Linux box to an Exchange
> client (or SMTP), ...

One requirement:
on the Exchange server the SMPT should be _Enabled_ for you!

Then you can send email with the 'sendmail' program
(or with 'postfix' or with 'exim', or whatever you can configure).

--
Mihaly Gyulai
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:59:23 +0200
From: Jef Peeraer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.robotics.misc
Subject: Re: "Exact" time measuring under linux

Konrad Gebels wrote:
> 
> Under Windows you can use the 'GetTickCount' function to access the
> realtime clock, there might be a similar function under Linux.
> 
> Maik Hassel wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Which would be the most accurate way of measuring times down to 1/1000
> > sec in Linux? I can't use realtime-linux!
> > Is there a possibility of accessing the timer tics of the
> > realtime-clock? Or are there other possibilities?
> >
> > Thanks for help....
> >   Maik
> 
> --
> Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors

adjtimex will do the job for the system clock ( the one in the kernel ):
 adjtimex --print
         mode: 0
       offset: 0
    frequency: -2582118
     maxerror: 16384000
     esterror: 16384000
       status: 64
time_constant: 2
    precision: 1
    tolerance: 33554432
         tick: 10002
     raw time:  969620017s 707012us = 969620017.707012
 return value = 5

But the accuracy of the system clock is not in the range of ms ( maybe
0.1 sec ), so what's the point in using it ? 

-- 
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Jef Peeraer             -o)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]    /\
+32 3 7806582           _\_v             
===============================================
Don't throw your PC out of the window, throw 
Windows out of your PC and run Linux!
-- Gernot Kerschbaumer.

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From: Fabrice Lhomme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.linux.redhat,alt.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: FTP login problems
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:14:55 +0200

I had the same problem when upgrading Proftpd.

Just delete the line containing pam_shells.so and it should work. The
first line in my pam configuration is also different. If you still have
problems mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll give it to you.

Fabrice.

> I had ProFTPd working for a while for myself. When I added a user so my
> friend could join, it kept kicking him into the anonymous directory. I
> started messing with stuff to figure out why, because I could log in with my
> account just fine, but I messed something up. Now everytime anyone, user or
> anonymous, go to login they get refused and the logs say the user was not
> found. I think it has something to do with the auhtentication in Linux but
> don't know what. Any help?
> 
> I'm using ProFTP. Here's my pam.d/ftp:
> 
> #%PAM-1.0
> auth       required     /lib/security/pam_listfile.so item=user sense=deny
> file$
> auth       required     /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so shadow nullok
> auth       required     /lib/security/pam_shells.so
> account    required     /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so
> session    required     /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so
> 
> My ftpusers only has "root" in it. I checked the file permissions and
> they're fine too. Any help? Thanks.
> 
> --
> Mufasa
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart Krivis)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux Mail Server
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:29:25 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:36:23 GMT, Newsgroup Account <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>See my earlier post - you do not need systems accounts for 500000 users.

I think that this size mail system requires expert assistance to setup.

Yes, you can make sendmail, postfix, and qmail do it. However, you need
to know what you're doing. 

It's probably best to hire someone who already knows how to do it. That
way you don't start getting phone calls from 500,000 people every time
the server hiccups.

The other way to do it is with commercial software. Netscape Messaging
Server and Communigate Pro spring to mind. They are both designed to
scale in the ways that will be needed. Commercial Sendmail might also be
worth looking into.

Multiple servers will be a must. You need redundancy. Perhaps a
dedicated mail routing machine? Separate POP3/IMAP server(s)? LDAP
server? Storage arrays?

It's not something you can go ahead with based on the advice in a couple
of Usenet articles, nor will it only take one weekend to setup...

So, hire somebody who knows how to do it. :-)



-- 

Stuart Krivis

**remove the "mongo" for e-mail replies

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From: ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Finding an rpm.
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:47:04 GMT

Thaddeus L Olczyk wrote:

> Something that keeps happening to me:
> I am told by kpackage I need file xyz.
> How do I find the rpm that holds it?

Here's ONE way i deal with that. IF you can find the package of interest
on www.rpmfind.net,
it will list every dependency and provide links to the rpm's that
contain those dependencies.
This works, most of the time

--
Ray R. Jones
Errors have been made. Others will be blamed.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP://gordo.penguinpowered.com




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From: "Sajith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mouse not working in Corel Linux
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:31:12 +0530

My mouse failed to work during the installation of Corel Linux. It worked
fine in other distributions like Redhat. I managed the installation without
the use of mouse and after the installation the mouse still doesn't work!
How can I configure the mouse after the installation(in corel distribution)?


Thanks to every one who tries to help.









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From: "paul snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.software-eng
Subject: Implications
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:12:43 GMT

Implications
========

So suppose that you are required to come up with a model that explains not
only what your software does (which various OO technologies do with varying
success), but also where your software comes from.  This requirement would
force you past the von Neumann model, where the program store P defines the
execution environment E:

             P --> E

Non-trivial computer systems are constructed from a collection of software,
installed in some order.  So in non-trivial computer systems, there always
exists some independent definition of P.  Call this definition X.

             X --> P --> E

Furthermore, X is not generally a single source.  If X is a disk image
applied to the hard drive (the P of a computer system), then X may in fact
be a single source.  But usually it isn't.

So X is made up of a set of components representing the number of installs n
required to build up P in a given computer system.

             X = {X(1), X(2), X(3),...,X(n)}

Our current software architectures do not model X.  In fact, they doesn't
tend to model installation and integration at all.  IT spends 75 percent of
their money in this area, but it doesn't seem to be important enough to
study.

With open software, modeling X is even more important, since the various
components of X come from different sources, and in many different releases
and versions.  Understanding and modeling how this is done will lead to
better solutions and mechanisms for software development and distribution.

Fun Implications
===========

This math may remind some (those with a biological background) of DNA.  It
should.  I would claim that all process based systems are forced into this
model, by definition.  X forms the DNA for a computer system.  Genes are the
components of DNA, much like some X(i) is a component of X.

Thus there is a very literal genetic component to computer systems because
both a living cell and a computer system are process based systems.

The genetic nature of computer systems can not be circumvented.

Really Fun Implications
===============

So software is defined by the "genes" of a computer system, the installation
medium.  That means that a software package, like what I might buy at a
computer store, represents genetic material.

The biological term for the exchange of genetic material is... sex.

Adding software to my software library is a literal form of computer sex.

So all along, our computers have been using us to spread their genetic
material, like bees.

We are also their agents for developing new genetic material, and we are the
environmental agents that supply the developmental pressures that drive some
genetic material to extinction, while other material (like Linux perhaps?)
flourishes.

And most of the alternatives to Linux require people pay for their
software...


Paul Snow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Easily compiling/moving kernel+modules to another computer
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:22:33 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Douglas Bollinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

...
> There must be many people besides me who perform this operation and
> who have streamlined it.  I suppose ideally I'm looking for a script
> to collect the modules, kernel image and system map into a tarball
> for easy movement to Tortoise.

Excerpt from '/usr/src/linux/Makefile':

# INSTALL_PATH specifies where to place the updated kernel and system
map
# images.  Uncomment if you want to place them anywhere other than root.

INSTALL_PATH=/boot

#
# INSTALL_MOD_PATH specifies a prefix to MODLIB for module directory
# relocations required by build roots.  This is not defined in the
# makefile but the argument can be passed to make if needed.

Guess you just edit the Makefile.  It's OK to be lazy as long as you
are not idolent.

--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }


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From: "Roy F. Cabaniss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux & SCSI tools
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:41:51 GMT

Neil Cherry wrote:
> 
> I have 2 Seagate drives and they are acting up on me. The first gets
> errors when reading or writting. I honestly think it's shot (barely
> used too!). The other is a 9G SCSI2 drive, I keep getting:
> 
> kernel:   Vendor: SEAGATE   Model: SX910800N         Rev: 8513
> kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> kernel: Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0
> kernel: sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
> kernel: sda : status = 1, message = 00, host = 0, driver = 28
> kernel: sda : extended sense code = 3
> kernel: sda : block size assumed to be 512 bytes, disk size 1GB.
> kernel:  sda:scsi0: MEDIUM ERROR on channel 0, id 5, lun 0, CDB: Read
>          (6) 00 00 00 02 00
> kernel: [valid=0] Info fld=0x0, Current sd08:00: sense key Medium Error
> kernel: Additional sense indicates Medium format corrupted
> kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0
> kernel:  unable to read partition table
> 
> This looks like it was dead from the start or I need to do a low level
> format. Any idea how I can attempt such a thing? Are there any
> addition SCSI tools for Linux?

yes but it looks like the problem is in reality before you get into
linux.  What adapter are you useing.  I swear by adaptec and swear at
almost everything else.  If a relativvely recent adaptec (though I have
some 1520's doing fine) then adaptec has some utiliteis that are useful.

check the adapter and the cables first.


> --
> Linux Home Automation           Neil Cherry             [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://members.home.net/ncherry                         (Text only)
> http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52           (Graphics)
> http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/                         (SourceForge)

-- 
Dr. Roy F. Cabaniss   Ph.D. in Marketing
Chairman, Division of Business
Huston-Tillotson College
[EMAIL PROTECTED]        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel recompile needed, but Mandrake has modified the source...
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:42:52 GMT

In article <bsV3ehsibPZd-pn2-7l0p8sdn9BhF@ASUSTwo>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce LaZerte) wrote:
...

> What to do?
>
> Is there another linux distribution out there that only uses standard
> kernels, equivalent to those found on ftp.kernel.org? Given the
monolithic
> linux kernel and the necessity to recompile it when updating certain
device
> drivers, this would be nice feature.

I would compile a new kernel using the official source and make the
present kernel a boot option.  It's not uncommon for distributions
to add interim patch fetched from developers (a work in progress),
and this is the most likely cause of patching failures.

I know one person who refuses to use distributed kernels and after
installation fetches source from 'ftp.kernel.org' to compile and
install on his systems.

I have used Linux for over 7 years and never experienced problems
due to replacing the distributed sources with the official ones.

--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }


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From: "Roy F. Cabaniss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: backpack and linux
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:52:54 GMT

I use suse and had no problems loading linux (SuSe 2.2.13) on a laptop
using an old backpack cdrom.  I tried it using a newer backpack (a rw
model) and it cannot mount the drive.  Any ideas why the newer won't
work?

A friend just got mandrake... and we could not find a module for a
backpack or any other parallel port cdrom.  Does mandrake have one.. I
did not find it on the list of supported hardware on the mandrake site.



-- 
Dr. Roy F. Cabaniss   Ph.D. in Marketing
Chairman, Division of Business
Huston-Tillotson College
[EMAIL PROTECTED]        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:09:05 -0300

El vie, 22 sep 2000, D. Spider escribi�:
>It appears that on Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:19:51 -0300, in
>comp.os.linux.advocacy Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>El jue, 21 sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi�:
>>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>>> For most early-era operating systems, there was not much of a
>>>> difference between binary and source code.
>>>
>>>Have you ever written anything in machine language. The difference
>>>between machine language and even a primitive assembler is HUGE.
>>
>>Z80 machine language inserted in a REM statement in a Sinclair 1000
>>(ZX81 clone) counts?
>
>Hahah you too? I did the same thing, well, not on the 1000, but on the
>related Timex/Sinclairs, the 2068 in particular. 

You rich guys with 16 colors and over 16KB of RAM ;-)

-- 
Roberto Alsina

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI tape drive problem w/ RH 6.1
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:18:05 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:58:16 GMT, Harshal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >Thanks for all your help.
> >
> >I can now use the tape drive if I manually load the aic7xxx and st
> >modules.
> >
> >But even though I have the 'alias scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx' line in
> >/etc/conf.modules, the module is not automatically loaded on re-boot.
> >
> >Do I have to use '/sbin/mkinitrd' to generate a new ramdisk image?
> >
> >Thanks again,
> >- Harshal
> >
> >
> >
> >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >Before you buy.
>
> Yes.
> --
> Dick Freedman
>

I recently acquired an Exabyte Mammoth tape drive for my Red Hat 6.2
Linux machine.  It replaces an old
 Exabyte 8200 drive.  I can read the old 8200 tapes on the Mammoth, but
I can't write anything to the
 special Mammoth tapes.  I have ExaTape 170mAME tapes.

 After I read the 8200 tape, it told me I had to clean the drive, which
I did.  When I try to write a tape using

 dd of=/dev/nst0 if=<some big file>

 I get an I/O error.  If I do a "mt -f /dev/nst0 status" I get a normal
status message back except it doesn't
 like the density setting.

 I sent email to Exabyte and they acknowledged my message, but haven't
gotten back to me for two weeks.

 I searched this newsgroup and found a few people who were having the
same problem, but no solutions.

 Any ideas?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI tape drive problem w/ RH 6.1
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:39:19 GMT

In article <8qfm5p$oq3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:58:16 GMT, Harshal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >Thanks for all your help.
...

> I recently acquired an Exabyte Mammoth tape drive for my Red Hat 6.2
> Linux machine.  It replaces an old Exabyte 8200 drive.  I can read
> the old 8200 tapes on the Mammoth, but I can't write anything to the
> special Mammoth tapes.  I have ExaTape 170mAME tapes.
>
>  After I read the 8200 tape, it told me I had to clean the drive,
> which I did.  When I try to write a tape using
>
>  dd of=/dev/nst0 if=<some big file>
>
>  I get an I/O error.  If I do a "mt -f /dev/nst0 status" I get a
>  normal status message back except it doesn't like the density
> setting.
>
>  I sent email to Exabyte and they acknowledged my message, but haven't
> gotten back to me for two weeks.
>
>  I searched this newsgroup and found a few people who were having the
> same problem, but no solutions.
>
>  Any ideas?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Have looked at this page:
  http://www.exabyte.com/suppserv/techsupp/8mm/misc/in0181.html

I only have an old DAT; no 8mm :-(
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry)
Subject: Re: Linux & SCSI tools
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:55:48 GMT

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:41:51 GMT, Roy F. Cabaniss wrote:
>Neil Cherry wrote:
>> 
>> I have 2 Seagate drives and they are acting up on me. The first gets
>> errors when reading or writting. I honestly think it's shot (barely
>> used too!). The other is a 9G SCSI2 drive, I keep getting:
>> 
>> kernel:   Vendor: SEAGATE   Model: SX910800N         Rev: 8513
>> kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
>> kernel: Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0
>> kernel: sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
>> kernel: sda : status = 1, message = 00, host = 0, driver = 28
>> kernel: sda : extended sense code = 3
>> kernel: sda : block size assumed to be 512 bytes, disk size 1GB.
>> kernel:  sda:scsi0: MEDIUM ERROR on channel 0, id 5, lun 0, CDB: Read
>>          (6) 00 00 00 02 00
>> kernel: [valid=0] Info fld=0x0, Current sd08:00: sense key Medium Error
>> kernel: Additional sense indicates Medium format corrupted
>> kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0
>> kernel:  unable to read partition table
>> 
>> This looks like it was dead from the start or I need to do a low level
>> format. Any idea how I can attempt such a thing? Are there any
>> addition SCSI tools for Linux?
>
>yes but it looks like the problem is in reality before you get into
>linux.  What adapter are you useing.  I swear by adaptec and swear at
>almost everything else.  If a relativvely recent adaptec (though I have
>some 1520's doing fine) then adaptec has some utiliteis that are useful.
>
>check the adapter and the cables first.

Checked it with 2 adaptec cards (Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x and a
152x), seems that the drive maybe a dead one or one of the jumpers is
causing trouble. I've discovered that the termination power jumpers
can cause _Lots_ of trouble.

-- 
Linux Home Automation           Neil Cherry             [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.home.net/ncherry                         (Text only)
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52           (Graphics)
http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/                         (SourceForge)

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD instead of CD reader ?
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:06:32 -0400

The dvd'll set you back a couple of hundred at least. Also, you will  have
to be extremely careful which dvd you buy. Some cannot read your CD-R disks,
although they may read a cdrw. This has something to do with the laser light
and the color on these CD-R's and CD-RW's.

Toshiba has a drive that is a cd-rw combined with a DVD-ROM, and it costs
$500 CDN ( it's IDE )
IDE DVD's ( el-cheapo varities) are around $190 and up, compared to a 40x
cdrom at $75 CDN .


Of course, if you look at each dvd drive, you will find that the formats
that they can read are not all the same. That part of DVD's seems to be
still in flux.. With CD drives, you pop in a disk you buy at the local Kwick
e-Mart , and it'll work.
With DVD's there's the little matter of the region code on the drive
matching the reigon code on the disk . No wait. that's with movies ! . I
can't buy a European movie and play it in a N.American coded drive, unless
of course I am willing to fork over a lot of $$$$ for a non - locked ( no
region code restrictions ) dvd drive .

joseph

Augusto Cardoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> my old CD reader id having trouble and needs replacement.
> Is it wise to buy a new SCSI CD reader or is it preferable to
> buy a DVD reader ?
> I usually use SuSE Linux and they are now delivering Linux
> on DVD.
> Are there any caveats ?
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> Augusto



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    ftp.funet.fi                                pub/Linux
    tsx-11.mit.edu                              pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu                             pub/Linux

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