Linux-Misc Digest #833, Volume #27 Sat, 12 May 01 01:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Netscape helper applications? (David Efflandt)
Re: chown to another user (give a file away). (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: linux installation (Christian Rose)
Re: SuSE Linux 7.1 ISO Download (Christian Rose)
Re: SuSE Linux 7.1 ISO Download ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
PPP sharing in RedHat7.1 with Kernel 2.4.3 ("Eric Chow")
Mandrake-8.0 + GUI login.. (Ish Rattan)
2.2.19 in potato (wroot)
mail sends, but does not receive (MH)
Re: linux installation (Stanislaw Flatto)
Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM (3FE)
Re: What is sendmail? (Dean Thompson)
Can't login to ftp even from localhost ("StevieB")
Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM (3FE)
Phantom directory (Graham Vincent)
Re: WordPerfect wouldn't start the graphical installation on RH 7.1 ("ThanhVu
Nguyen")
Cannot install "bin" file ("ThanhVu Nguyen")
Re: WordPerfect wouldn't start the graphical installation on RH 7.1 (ThorsWitch)
Re: configuring sound on debian stable (stelex)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Netscape helper applications?
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 01:17:26 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 11 May 2001, ThanhVu Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have the Acrobat Plugin file nppdf.sl in the plugins folder of
> netscape - it works fine.
Or if you do not have the plugin or if netscape is a symlink that does not
work with the wrapper script often included with acroread, set netscape to
use the following as Application for application/pdf (with actual path to
your acroread if not in your PATH). The secret is the %s at the end:
/usr/local/Acrobat4/bin/acroread %s
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bill Simpson"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I am running Netscape 4.7 under Linux. I am having problems getting
>> Netscape to automatically open .pdf files when browsing.
>>
>> I go to preferences/navigator/applications/ choose: Portable Document
>> Format
>> insert the helper application: acroread On my system acroread will start
>> up acroreader.
>>
>> When I have done this, and am browsing a pdf file with netscape, it will
>> start up acroreader BUT the acroreader window is empty. It doesn't
>> automatically open the file I am browsing.
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: chown to another user (give a file away).
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 21:26:44 -0400
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > SammyTheSnake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> another reason is because it would otherwise be possible to do something
> >> like this
>
> >> echo -en "echo \"hahaha! I'm you!\" \n rm -rf ~" > a.file
> >> chmod u+s a.file
> >> chmod a+rx a.file
> >> chown enemy.enemysgroup a.file
> >> ./a.file
>
> > No, it wouldn't. Linux ignores the setuid bit on shell scripts, which
> > is what that is. Anybody who tried that would get hoist by his own petard,
>
> Don't be needlessly argumentative. It doesn't have to be a script, he
> was just giving an indication of what could happen! Have an executable
> if you prefer! The valid objection here is that chown strips setuid bits.
>
IIRC, the reason chown was changed, even though originally anyone
could give away a file, was for administrative reasons. (chown(1) and
chown(2) always knocked down the setuid and setgid bits, so that, in
and of itself, was not a security problem, IIRC.) With multi-user
machines (as UNIX machines all were in the early 1980s), some
administrators needed to charge for disk space consumed in order to
deal with disk hogs, or bean counters. If you could give away a file,
you could get someone else to pay for it (or have it in their quota
instead of yours, now that disk quotas are available).
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/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 9:20pm up 10 days, 12:31, 3 users, load average: 4.38, 3.77,
3.37
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux installation
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 03:38:00 +0200
Stanislaw Flatto wrote:
> > Your comment makes no sense, and it doesn't help anyone. Please go troll
> > somewhere else.
> >
> > Christian
>
> Could not resist but read what you say, will do.
> Are we not in Linux for having fun?
Bad-mouthing others or what others have created is rarely fun,
especially when the bad-mouthing has no content, does not help anyone,
and is unwarranted.
Christian
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE Linux 7.1 ISO Download
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 03:48:12 +0200
Professor J Frink wrote:
> People make a big fuss over SuSE's downloadable stuff (lack of ISOs,
> interval between boxed set and ftp availability), but so what, you can
> download their distro, you can download ISOs.
You can only download a limited edition, and you can only download after
weeks after the actual release.
> And if it means SuSE makes a few more quid than otherwise again so what,
> they're a company
So is most other distributions. They're companies. That doesn't prevent
them from trusting their users.
> they don't exist on thin air and if you want it for free you just have to
> wait a few more weeks. Not too much to ask
Umm, yes it is. Why should I have to wait? No other distribution always
prohibits its users to download new releases of their distribution for
several weeks - there's no reason to.
Christian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SuSE Linux 7.1 ISO Download
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 02:12:19 GMT
Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Professor J Frink wrote:
>> People make a big fuss over SuSE's downloadable stuff (lack of ISOs,
>> interval between boxed set and ftp availability), but so what, you can
>> download their distro, you can download ISOs.
> You can only download a limited edition, and you can only download after
> weeks after the actual release.
>> And if it means SuSE makes a few more quid than otherwise again so what,
>> they're a company
> So is most other distributions. They're companies. That doesn't prevent
> them from trusting their users.
>> they don't exist on thin air and if you want it for free you just have to
>> wait a few more weeks. Not too much to ask
> Umm, yes it is. Why should I have to wait? No other distribution always
> prohibits its users to download new releases of their distribution for
> several weeks - there's no reason to.
And why should they have to be like all the others? If you don't like
waiting, don't. Download another distribution.
Adam
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From: "Eric Chow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP sharing in RedHat7.1 with Kernel 2.4.3
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 10:20:21 +0800
Hello,
How can I share the PPP 56K dialup connection within RedHat7.1 ?
I use RedHat 7.1 Linux box to dialup to ISP, and there is another
PC(Windows) in the same LAN to share this PPP connection ? How can do this ?
I know the IP MASQ, but don't know how to setup? I tried to read the man
page but and tried to set it, but failed. Would you please to teach me how
to setup that and give me a simple script ?
My simple LAN structure as following :
ISP
|
| (56K Modem)
====================
| RedHat 7.1 |
| Kernel 2.4.3 |
|____________|
| eth0
192.168.0.1
|
__|____
HUB
_______
|
|
====================
| Windows 98 |
=====================
192.168.0.2
I just want my Windows 98 can use any port for IN/OUT through the LinuxBox
when the LinuxBox connect to ISP ?
Please give me a script to do that in Kernel 2.4.3 ?
Best regards,
Eric
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From: Ish Rattan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake-8.0 + GUI login..
Date: 11 May 2001 22:57:08 -0500
Hello,
I have a problem. I installed Mandrake-8.0. No matter what I tried it
installs GUI login (I disklike such interfaces). First it started
gdm, so I removed gdm and related files. On reboot, it started xdm
(with twm). So I removed xdm too. Now it tries(!) to stay without GUI
(normal text consoles) BUT I see the periodic error message:
ld: "X" spwaning too fast disbaling it for five minutes
Is there a way to fix this with with or without reinstall?
Any help/insight will be appreciated.
- ishwar
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From: wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.debian.user
Subject: 2.2.19 in potato
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:53:13 -0400
I'm wondering why 2.2.19 isn't in potato yet. Supposedly it should be more
stable that pre18. Correct me if I'm incorrect.
Wroot
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mail sends, but does not receive
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 20:07:20 -0700
Recently did a clean install of RH7.1 on one of my client boxes and can no
longer receive mail messages from my server (using mail). I can send
messages to the server, and I can send and receive locally, but I can't
receive from remote hosts.
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux installation
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 13:45:35 +1000
Yes, teacher!
Christian Rose wrote:
> Stanislaw Flatto wrote:
> > > Your comment makes no sense, and it doesn't help anyone. Please go troll
> > > somewhere else.
> > >
> > > Christian
> >
> > Could not resist but read what you say, will do.
> > Are we not in Linux for having fun?
>
> Bad-mouthing others or what others have created is rarely fun,
> especially when the bad-mouthing has no content, does not help anyone,
> and is unwarranted.
>
> Christian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (3FE)
Crossposted-To:
gnu.emacs.help,alt.religions.vim,alt.religion.emacs,fj.editor.vi,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 03:43:22 GMT
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:29:27 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insisted:
> I am just so tired of XEmacs. It crashes all the time. It does not have drag
> and drop support. Lisp is next to impossible to learn. I have to type basillions
> of stupid keystrokes to get the most trivial tasks accomplished. My left
> wrist is hurting from hitting C- and ESC- keys constantly. I have recently
I've seen XEmacs a couple of times, but I've never been interested in
using it. I like emacs (not XEmacs); it's an excellent programmer's
editor, for multiple languages. It *!NEVER!* (sorry for the over
emphasis) crashes.
> discovered VIM, a great programmers' editor (www.vim.org). All keystrokes are
I like vim. I started using it on a suse box recently. I tried
implementing colorization on my debian (potato) laptop and it doesn't
work. Is this a new feature? debian generally holds itself to older
versions, but no colorization?
(0) eachep keeling /home/keeling_ dpkg -l | grep vim
ii vim 5.6.070-1 Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor
Who needs drag and drop? I've got X Window cut and paste.
> easy and fast, everything works, it creates backup files and so on. I am
> switching.
But this moaning about vi vs. emacs is pointless. Use both. They can
both be fast, everything does work, and both create backup files, etc.
emacs has better undo. I use vi/vim to tweak small config files fast,
and I use emacs for larger projects where I need to think and
appreciate the help. As an admin, you HAVE to know vi, so you'll know
how to use vim. If you also program, emacs may be helpful. So far,
I've only needed enough lisp to tweak .emacs
You might try jed as well, but if you prefer XEmacs to emacs, you may
loathe xjed too.
--
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
TopQuark Software & Serv. Contract programmer, server bum.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Give up Spammers; I use procmail.
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From: Dean Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: What is sendmail?
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 14:01:20 +1000
Hi!,
Tuomas Airaksinen wrote:
> Fri, 11 May 2001 13:11:12 +1000, Dean Thompson kirjoitti:
>>
>>Hi Lamar,
>>
>>> I am new to Linux and I am coming from the "Windows" world. We are
>>> thinking about moving our "MS Exchange" e-mail server over to Linux and
>>> sendmail. Right now with "Exchange 5.5" we can do POP3, SMTP and Web
>>> e-mail access. Can we do any of this with sendmail? If not, what do we
>>> need to make it happen? We well be running RedHat 7.1. Thanks for any
>>> input.
>>
>>Sendmail is merely a program which is responsible for receiving mail and
>>forwarding it to the correct user. It handles incoming mail hosts and the
>>processing of aliases and so forth.
>>
>>It isn't a fully integrated solution like MS Exchange. You will also need
>>to install the "imap" package onto your Redhat box to provide you with imap
>>and pop mail services (this is a very simple thing to do). As for the real
>>beauty of Exchage (the Web Mail), you will have to look around for a
>>product which does it. I know that there are a few out there which are
>>capable of doing the task, but their names and URL's escape me. However, I
>>would be interested in any web front ends that you did manage to find.
>
> I just got a mail from a guy at helsinki university, and his User-Agent was
> IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.2-cvs. I guess that's something you're
> looking for.
For those that are interested the web page can be found here:
http://www.horde.org/imp/
See ya
Dean Thompson
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From: "StevieB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Can't login to ftp even from localhost
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 00:01:56 -0400
I've had no problems with FTP in Caldera OpenLinux or RedHat 7.0. But now
after loading 7.1, attempting to login to ftp from a Windoze PC fails. Even
going to the linux box and typing "ftp 127.0.0.1" doesn't work. I'm
prompted for a Name, I enter my vanilla user account and password and it
says "530 Login incorrect. Login failed." Root account and login don't
work either.
My wu-ftpd file in xinetd.d says:
# default: on
# description: The wu-ftpd FTP server serves FTP connections. It uses \
# normal, unencrypted usernames and passwords for authentication.
service ftp
{
disable = no
socket_type = stream
wait = no
user = root
server = /usr/sbin/in.ftpd
server_args = -l -a
log_on_success += DURATION USERID
log_on_failure += USERID
nice = 10
Hosts.allow has ALL:ALL. Hosts.deny is blank. Any suggestions?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (3FE)
Subject: Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 04:07:22 GMT
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:35:30 +0000, Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> \
insisted:
> It was the Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:56:30 -0400...
> ...and Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > magnetic disks are for weenies.
> >
> > real men use punch cards.
>
> Real men use signatures no longer than four lines. You obviously not
I just killfiled him too for the same thing. Sad too, 'cause he never
did anything else too overtly offensive. Life's too short for
multi-page .sigs
*plonk*
--
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
TopQuark Software & Serv. Contract programmer, server bum.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Give up Spammers; I use procmail.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Graham Vincent)
Subject: Phantom directory
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 23:33:00 GMT
Hello.
I have a RedHat 6.2/2.2.19 kernel/Intel machine that is misbehaving:
I try "mkdir hal" and it responds with
"mkdir: cannot make directory `hal ' : File exists"
ls shows no sign of the file but I tried to delete it anyway:
"rmdir hal" responds with "rmdir: hal: No such file or directory"
"rm hal" responds with "rm: cannot remove `hal' : Input/output error"
The directory existed once before and was a samba mount point for another
computer on the network so I tried the above sequence with samba running and
again with it stopped but got the same response. Samba version 2.0.5a
How can I clear this problem, preferably without a reboot?
Thanks,
Graham
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From: "ThanhVu Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordPerfect wouldn't start the graphical installation on RH 7.1
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 00:39:29 -0400
got it from download.com
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From: "ThanhVu Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cannot install "bin" file
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 00:39:45 -0400
I try to installed Staroffice, I installed it couple times before by just
running sh filename.bin , but on this new system, when I issue that
command, it just say cannot execute binary file.
Am I missing some library or compiler etc ?
thanks for all inputs
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From: ThorsWitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordPerfect wouldn't start the graphical installation on RH 7.1
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 04:55:23 GMT
Wayne Osborn wrote:
> If you are not able to modify the install script, drop me a line and I
> will send you a copy. Note, my Email address is spelt out below.
Hello -- I'm not the person you had originally been speaking to about the
difficulty installing Word Perfect 8, but I'm very new to Linux and have
been having the same problem getting it installed that he had (the empty
wp* directories, etc). I'm not familiar enough with modifying scripts yet
to even begin to know how to do it - would you be willing to send me a
copy? If not, that's fine - I just figured it wouldn't hurt to ask, eh? :)
Kriselda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://thunderfyre.net
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From: stelex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: configuring sound on debian stable
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.debian.user
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 06:01:22 +0000
<posted & mailed>
wroot wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How can I configure Debian to like my sound card? (Crystal Clear
> cs4232) I tried adding the appropriate lines form my Redhat
> /etc/conf.modules file and running update-modules, but that didn't
> help. Debian version of sndconfig is for the 'unstable' release and
> doesn't seem to work properly on 'stable'.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Wroot
Get a debianized kernel source from /devel in a stable branche, for
instance kernel-source-2.2.19-2, or an ordinary kernel source
linux-2.2.19 from your favourite kernel archive; I friendly suggest
a debianized source and a kernel-package which will compile a kernel
for you; apt-get install kernel-source-2.2.19 kernel-package
While configuring your kernel that yet has to be compiled, go to
Sound under a main menu and select appropriate suopport for your
Crystal sound card. I found eight selections for Crystal cards under
Sound.
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