Linux-Misc Digest #833, Volume #26               Tue, 16 Jan 01 13:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: tools for disabled people ("Joe (mvjap3) Philbrook III")
  Re: Where to find the inetd.conf ("Jesper Yde")
  Re: Any good doc about TeX LaTeX ? ("Eric")
  Re: What is the community's favorite news reader (and why)? (Daryl Fonseca-Holt)
  Re: Problem with posting from leafnode (Steve)
  Re: Blackbox (Steve)
  Re: Linus Torvalds is dead?!?! (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
  Re: Monitor Processes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Format for config files (Charles Sebold)
  Re: Ethernet card from Hell (H-P Pavilion 8665C, MPX en5038 card) ("D F")
  Re: Blackbox (Tony Reed)
  "Capturing" keyboard/mouse events ("P�l Berge")
  Re: Where to find the inetd.conf ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Where to find the inetd.conf (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
  Re: Where to find the inetd.conf ("Jesper Yde")
  Kernel compiling error on bzImage ("Peter")
  Re: cron jobs aren't running :-( (Doug O'Leary)
  dns question (Beggar)
  Re: Q: Altering wav file speed (Russell Marks)
  Re: Never can upgrade/recompile kernel on RH 6.2/7.0 (Arctic Storm)
  Re: Netscape 4.7X (Arctic Storm)
  Re: What is the community's favorite news reader (and why)? (Arctic Storm)
  Re: Staroffice HP Deskjet Printer Driver for Linux (Grant Edwards)
  Re: Any good doc about TeX LaTeX ? (Jean-Pierre Moreau)
  Re: Is Netscape 6 on Linux more stable than previous versions? (Steve)
  Re: Where to find the inetd.conf (Dirk Groeneveld)
  Re: Linux on Athlon (Dirk Groeneveld)
  help please ("Martijn")
  Re: Term emulator with *real* keypad emulation? (Thomas Dickey)

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From: "Joe (mvjap3) Philbrook III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tools for disabled people
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:10:25 -0500
Reply-To: mvjap3 at work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, E J wrote:

> See http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Access-HOWTO.html
> 
> about the key combos see
> http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO-8.html#ss8.3
> 
> Then there are `Sticky' modifier keys (since 1.3.33). For example, one
> can type ^C as SControl, C
> and Ctrl-Alt-BackSpace as SControl, SAlt, BackSpace.
> 

Hmmmnnn Now this interests me. I'm not disabled, but at work I'm always
working with one hand occupied with something else. And so am actually glad
that they make me use a winblows terminal emulator to telnet into the
various *nix I do my work in because of the sticky keys option in the
Accessibility Options... In fact, It's about the only thing about windows
that I like...

But at home, I have a linux box that I use from the console... I expect
that there would be something like sticky keys available for x, but I
just plain dislike GUIs... So I put up with frequent keyboard <operator>
errors due to my work learned reflexes that expect to be able to tap a
modifier key and then the key to be modified, sequentially <Sigh>

But if I understand you, these `Sticky' modifier keys (since 1.3.33) are
actually command line command modifiers that would work in the console??

Still this is mostly a curiosity as I doubt they would work inside an
application like say I wanted to post this from pine, I doubt pine would
recognize "SControl, X" as the send command <^X> ??? 

And they would do little for my reflexive sequential key tapping...

Unless, what you mean is that these are commands that once run, cause the
kernel to treat future input that includes sequential input of the
specified modifier and modified keystrokes to be interpreted as a single
modified character...??? <probably to much to hope for...sigh>

But I guess I'll have to follow the link you included from home <hope I can
get there with lynx?> As I'm not really supposed to browse the web at
work...<sigh>

                   
                        ~^~   ~^~
                         ?     ?        Joseph A Philbrook III
                            ^           
                          \___/         <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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From: "Jesper Yde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to find the inetd.conf
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:01:57 +0100

You are right! I am running 7.0.....a



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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Any good doc about TeX LaTeX ?
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:34:19 -0500

"Bernard DEBREIL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thanks for any advice on web or paper documents about text processing
> using LaTeX or/and TeX.

"A Guide to Latex" by Kopka and Daly (Addison Wesley) is excellent.  You
might also raise this question at comp.text.tex, the tex newsgroup.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daryl Fonseca-Holt)
Subject: Re: What is the community's favorite news reader (and why)?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:01:05 -0600

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:02:10 -0800, the softrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Netscrape does not have all the functionality I desire. It keeps
>screwing up the message counts. It does not seem to permit block marking
>of messages as read. What else is there out there that people like to
>use (with Linux). Thanks for your help.
>-- 
>the softrat
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>---
>(A Funny Line)

My favourite is slrn. Why? It is fast, text-based, and it has a fairly
easy-to-use kill file function that lets me block subjects or from: easily, a
real boon on some newsgroups.

Wyatt.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Problem with posting from leafnode
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:56:43 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>| >Thanks for the info, Steve, but I'm beginning to suspect either ignorance or
>| >[Windows-based] malevolence from my ISP's part.
>| >
>| >I've now switched to KRN, which can be used as an offline newsreader (the only
>| >redeaming factor of what can only be described as "bugware"). If this post
>| >doesn't make it, I'll have to start bugging them.
>| >
>| Well, it's here.
>| So it's not my ISP's fault then.
>| Frankly, I'm flabberghasted. I upgraded leafnode to 1.9.18, as suggested, but
>| it still refused to post my articles.
>| I'd stick with KRN, were it not for the fact that I utterly despise it; it's
>| the only program that manages to bring my entire system down (no network, so
>| telnetting is out of the question).
>| Oh well...
>| 
>| Karel Jansens

Why don't you post your leafnode config file? You probably have a
misconfig somwhere.

If you don't wish to post it, ask on the leafnode e-mail list as I
suggested, help is only an e-mail away. <g>

-- 
Steve - Toronto ICQ 35454764
Powered by Caldera Open Linux
 10:55am  up 1 day, 22:34, 11 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.07, 0.02

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Blackbox
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:59:12 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Jeff Lacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>| Thanks very much for the advice, but that works fine for me.  I have some
>| diskless workstations I would like to be able to use.  I can't use them when
>| they run gnome (think dogmeat).  BB is nice and fast and fairly simple.  If
>| no one knows how to change the default to be bb, could someone tell me if I
>| could make startx run at logon?  Thanks everyone (especially NDQ).

As another poster suggested use runlevel 3, then just type in 'startx'.

Have you thought of trying other lighweight windowmanagers? XFce is very
nice and fast.

-- 
Steve - Toronto ICQ 35454764
Powered by Caldera Open Linux
 10:57am  up 1 day, 22:36, 11 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.01

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Subject: Re: Linus Torvalds is dead?!?!
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:03:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:34:57 +0200, "Dr. Jason J. Hogan-O'Neill"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Is it true? I heard a radio report that Linus Torvalds was seriously
>injured in a car crash a couple of hours ago and his situation was
>critical.
>
>Does anyone have any other news on this?
I don't think so. If that were the case. msnbc would have it in their
technology section ( trying not to sound gleefull ).

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Monitor Processes
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:10:17 -0500

Hi,

If you want to monitor processes on various types of Unix systems (Solaris,
HP-UX, AIX, DEC/Compaq UNIX, etc)
(and even Windows systems, NT4.0, Win2000) you might want to look at a
full-blown freeware application like
NetSaint (see www.sunworld.com) or Big Brother (Used in many shops, do a
search for its location).

I think they all do a "ps | grep' for each process, but then so do
full-scale (expensive) applications like HP-OpenView, etc.

I don't really think you want to use SNMP for monitoring except for pure
networking reasons (snmp traps, etc).
We have found it not to be as reliable as we hoped.

Gino

"Brian E. Seppanen" wrote:

> What have others found to be a good way of monitoring processes on the
> varies types of unices?   Currently we do a grep for the process
> information, but I'm wondering if there isn't something that might work
> better.   This would be on a variety of solaris 2.6, 2.7 and redhat
> linux 6.2, 7.0 machines.   Does the pid file get changed in any way to
> indicate whether a process is still running?
>
> Thanks,
> Brian E. Seppanen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Charles Sebold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.emacs.help,alt.os.linux,comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Format for config files
Date: 16 Jan 2001 09:15:38 -0600

On 17 Teveth 5761, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Furthermore, is there a way to get emacs to
> display control characters?

Would hexl-mode help here?
-- 
Charles Sebold
Random Answer to an Emacs Very Frequently Asked Question:
 Put (global-font-lock-mode 1) in your .emacs for syntax coloring.
--
21st of Teveth, 5761
--
"If this patent holds up in federal court, Apple will have no choice but
to convert to analog," said Apple interim CEO Steve Jobs, "and I have
serious doubts whether this company would be able to remain competitive
selling pedal-operated computers running software off vinyl LPs."

 -- "Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes",
     http://www.onion.com/onion3311/microsoftpatents.html

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From: "D F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ethernet card from Hell (H-P Pavilion 8665C, MPX en5038 card)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:23:00 -0500

Erich Schwarz wrote in message ...
>    I am trying to set up a Hewlett-Packard Pavilion 8665C
for
>dual-boot with Red Hat Linux 6.2.  This turns out to be
much more
>of a chore than I would like.  Solved one problem with the
wacko
>video card.  Then hit the wall on activating the Pavilion's
>ethernet adapter card.
>
>    It's allegedly a RealTek 8139, but I have found that
the rtl8139.o
>driver doesn't work.
>
>    So I opened the box.  Turns out that the ethernet
card's chip
>is prominently labelled "MPX EN5038A1".  Thanks,
Hewlett-Packard.
>
>    I then tried ne.o and ne2k-pci.o.  Both fail to be
loaded with
>insmod due to a bunch of whiny "undefined values" that they
seem to
>have.  Setting up ne.o or ne2k-pci.o as eth0 modules loaded
into
>the kernel doesn't help either.
>
>    Before I tear this bloody card out and replace it with
something
>adult, is there somebody out there who knows a silver
bullet for this?
>Thanks.
>
>
>--Erich Schwarz / [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please don't multi-post. Cross-post instead to a very
carefully selected number of newsgroups. I've replied to
this post in comp.os.linux.hardware. The trouble with
multi-posting is that the replies don't get posted to the
same groups as the question. Someone else, who doesn't
monitor c.o.l.h. may have this same question and won't see
the reply because you've multi-posted instead of
cross-posting. I know there are different opinions on the
cross-post/multi-post argument but I've never seen one that
could refute this stance regarding replies and follow-ups.

Dave Fluri  North Bay, Ontario  Canada

(The opinions herein are mine. I do not speak for my
employer unless I expressly indicate otherwise.)




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Reed)
Subject: Re: Blackbox
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:35:33 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc
Jeff Lacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:Thanks very much for the advice, but that works fine for me.  I have some
:diskless workstations I would like to be able to use.  I can't use them when
:they run gnome (think dogmeat).  BB is nice and fast and fairly simple.  If
:no one knows how to change the default to be bb, could someone tell me if I
:could make startx run at logon?  Thanks everyone (especially NDQ).

Take a look at /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients
-- 
Tony Reed
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: "P�l Berge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Capturing" keyboard/mouse events
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:53:36 +0100

Can someone give me some tips on how I can "keep track of" ALL keyboard and
mouse events that occur in X  ?
- i.e. not for a specific graphic component or application, but any X event
blablabla, you get the point....
is there a way of doing this that will be the same on all unix/unix-"clones"
running X ?
I also need to pipe some info about some events when they occur, preferably
through stdout ...

Thanks for any help !!
-- Paal



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Where to find the inetd.conf
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:39:12 GMT

In article <FoX86.2283$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Jesper Yde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can only find identd.conf , init.d  and some other files - but not
> inetd.conf
> I am running RH 7.0 Guinness
>
>

Red Hat 7.0 has replaced the inetd.conf with xinetd.conf.  It should be
located in /etc.  If it is not there, try using find or locate in order
to find its location.

Andy
----
        Support provided by Linuxgruven, Inc.
        www.linuxgruven.com
        314-727-0918


Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Subject: Re: Where to find the inetd.conf
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:56:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:46:11 +0000, David Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Jesper Yde wrote:
>
>> OK- thanks
>> 
>> I tried using the find command - but it didnt find it - is it hidden
>> or something?
>> 
>> "Jean-David Beyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > Jesper Yde wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Help!  I cannot find the inetd.conf file ?
>> > > I am trying to install teapop, and it says to edit the inetd.conf
>> > > file !
>> > >
>> > > But how (what to edit) and where (is the file)?
>> > >
>
>Are you running RedHat 7.0 by any chance?  If so, inetd.conf has been 
>replaced by /etc/xinetd.conf and the files in /etc/xinetd.d.  Read "man 
>xinetd" and "man xinetd.conf"
Is xinetd.conf associated with xinetd  and not inetd?
What's the difference?

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From: "Jesper Yde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to find the inetd.conf
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:52:32 +0100

Is the syntax diff. from inetd.conf?
This is the "recipe" I am trying to follow:
..........
The file teapop-0.22-1.i386.rpm contains a build of the teapop
pop server suitable for redhat systems. To use this, do
rpm -Uvh teapop-0.22-1.i386.rpm, and alter your inetd.conf

pop-3   stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd
/usr/libexec/teapop/teapop teapop

. Your password file is found in /etc/teapop.passwd.
What else is there ?
enjoy, and I hope this is useful to you all.
.........

I have completed step one : rpm -Uvh teapop-0.22-1.i386.rpm
- it worked fine I think ?

Now I have found the Xinetd.conf file and have inserted a line like the one
above: pop-3 stream ..... etc etc

But nothing happens? Am I supposed to do something obvious that the author
doesnt mention ? I am very new at this!

regards Jesper




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From: "Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel compiling error on bzImage
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:01:02 GMT

Hi

I have Linux RH 6.2, with kernel 2.2.14. I have tried to put new kernel
(2.4.0)on my machin. So i have made following steps:
1 - deleted my current linux codes  from /usr/src/linux
2 - Opened the new linux kernel (2.4.0)
3 - did mrproper, config, dep.
4 - but bZImage gives two errors saying as follwes:

ip_nat_ftp.c: In function `help':
ip_nat_ftp.c:315: structure has no member named `nat'
make[3]: *** [ip_nat_ftp.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/net/ipv4/netfilter'
make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/net/ipv4/netfilter'
make[1]: *** [_subdir_ipv4/netfilter] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/net'
make: *** [_dir_net] Error 2


i dont know how to solv this, please tell me if you have any sugestion.
Best regards  Peter





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From: Doug O'Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cron jobs aren't running :-(
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:49:59 GMT

John Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What else might kick it in the butt and get it going again?  


You could completely kill the cron process and restart it.
That's worked for me on other nixes...

Doug

-- 
========================
Douglas K. O'Leary
Senior System Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Beggar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dns question
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:21:43 +0800

is that a valid nameserver need to have reverse IP address?

my machine have an real  IP and I want to set a nameserver.
Do I need to inform the network provider to change something
about the reverse IP?
Or I just need to make a xxx.www.yyyy.zzzz.IN-ADDR.ARPA
entry in my server setup?
Since I cannot nslookup the IP address, it reply me:

        Non-existent host/domain

please reply cc to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


thanks~





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Subject: Re: Q: Altering wav file speed
From: Russell Marks <russell.marks@spam^H^H^H^Hntlworld.com>
Date: 16 Jan 2001 17:31:48 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've poked around Deja.com and freshmeat and
> haven't seen the specific answer yet...
> 
> Here is what I want to do:
>    1.  Rip an audio track from a CD (can do)
>    2.  Save the track as a wav file (can do)
>    3.  Alter the wav file to play at some
>          arbitrary percentage of normal speed,
>          say 80% of normal (?????)
>    4.  Write the slower version to disk as a
>          wav file (??????)
>    5.  Burn original and slow versions of the
>          wav file to CD (can do)
> 
> Are there any tools that can help me with
> steps 3 and 4?

The traditional answer is sox - your distribution will probably have
it. If you're happier with GUI stuff it won't be the best approach for
you, but if you just want to get the thing done it's ideal. Be sure to
get a fairly recent version (old versions had quite bad resampling) -
I'm using version 12.16.

FWIW, the command-line you'd use would be something like:

sox -r 35280 input.wav -r 44100 output.wav

The idea here is to pretend the input is slower than it is, and then
resample that to the true rate to *actually* make it slower (35280
being 80% of 44100).

Don't be surprised if it takes a while. :-)

-Rus.

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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Never can upgrade/recompile kernel on RH 6.2/7.0
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:33:32 GMT

I heard that RedHat 7 has some bugs regarding the compilation 
collection.  You may need to update the bugs before compiling.
Why not just try the rpm?  No need to compile anything.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I don't understand what is this problem! I'm trying to built my kernel
> on RH6.2 (2.2.14--->2.2.16) it fails. RH7.0 (2.2.16)--->2.2.17 and
> 2.2.18 it also fails. Each times I got the error related to lib.so.6,
> statig.c, make[2]:*** [first_rule] Error 2, and a lot of warning. Finaly
> It tell me to report gcc bugs to ..., then it plante completely my
> computer.
> I'm using a classical procedure described anywhere, which had works to
> me every time on slackware or debian without any problem.
> I got my new kernel from www.kernel.org, and even if I don't change any
> thing with make xconfig, it plante. This telling me that the problem is
> not related to depandancy in modules or something like this.
> 
> Can anyone helps tell me what is the problem?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/


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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.7X
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:35:52 GMT

A cheap solution to your problem is to upgrade to Netscape 6.0.
I must warn you, though, that Netscape 6.0 is more resource-intensive.

Kevin wrote:

> I've noticed something odd with netscape 4.7x, where "x" is any
> digit they've released.  At some point during a netscape session,
> links quit working -- that is, clicking on a link only changes
> the color of the link but doesn't actually take me to the link.
> I can't remember seeing this with 4.7, but all of the versions
> since then seem to have this behavior.  In order to get good
> behavior, I have to quit, then kill, then restart netscape.
> 
> Anyone else notice this?  Anyone got a workaround?
> 
> Thanks....


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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is the community's favorite news reader (and why)?
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:37:38 GMT

Hmmm,....
Which version of Netscape?
Netscape 6.0 is pretty good with newsgroup.  Believe it or not, for 
simple reading and posting, Netscape 6.0 is better than Pan.

the softrat wrote:

> Netscrape does not have all the functionality I desire. It keeps
> screwing up the message counts. It does not seem to permit block marking
> of messages as read. What else is there out there that people like to
> use (with Linux). Thanks for your help.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Staroffice HP Deskjet Printer Driver for Linux
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:47:29 GMT

In article <940dns$m4c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I went to use Linux and Staroffice5.2 tonight and Staroffice doesn't
>like my HP 600 Deskjet printer.  It appears if I can find a printer
>driver I am ok but on Sun's site they only refer me to a pdf file I
>don't have which talks about adding printer drivers.  I guess I could
>save the file and reboot into Windows to use MS Word, but that seems
>really dumb.  Any ideas out there?  TIA Ray

Configure a printer queue to use ghostscript to convert from
postscript to HP DJ-600 format.  Then just tell StarOffice that
that print queue is a postcript printer.

There are several different "magic print filters" available
that you can use to handle the ghostscript invokation.

If you're running RedHat, just start up printtool and use it to
configure the queue.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  .. I have a
                                  at               VISION! It's a RANCID
                               visi.com            double-FISHWICH on an
                                                   ENRICHED BUN!!

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Subject: Re: Any good doc about TeX LaTeX ?
From: Jean-Pierre Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:51:28 GMT


Bernard DEBREIL, in comp.os.linux.misc, 16 Jan 2001 12:05:04 GMT:
 > Thanks for any advice on web or paper documents about text processing
 > using LaTeX or/and TeX.

Here some help in an ocean of TeX documentation.

There is a good (Hmm... I did not read it) short tutorial in french,
available in many formats:

        Documentation g�n�rale � propos de (La)TeX
        URL: http://www.loria.fr/services/tex/general.html

My acquaintance in TeX/LaTeX is mainly from Plain TeX from the
book of the master himself, The TeXbook by Donald E. Knuth.

There is also the approx 'LaTeX book' by Leslie Lamport, the originator of
LaTeX.

Just if you are curious:

  for now I mainly and ideally write everything in ASCII + ISO Latin 1,
  using Emacs, and writing math symbols using TeX syntax, like $\alpha$.
  But I like so much the 'conceptual' writing of TeX/LaTeX that I use it
  in my texts with 'pseudo-TeX' constructs, for example I use \qt{\qt}:
    \qt{$ emacs -nw }
  to 'quote' something, even if I do not 'TeX process' a text!
  And eventually, if need arises, I can easily define these as true TeX
  constructs and make a 'pseudo TeX' text in TeX.

-- Jean-Pierre Moreau,
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (s/notuser/jpm-qc/; s/notdomain/iquebec/ )


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Is Netscape 6 on Linux more stable than previous versions?
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:06:59 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Matt O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>| 
>| "M.Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>| news:93t6l7$t6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>| > In article <93r8lt$krq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>| >   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>| > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>| > >   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>| > > > Gee, doesn't the subject say it all?
>| > > >
>| > > > I have run a couple versions of Netscape under Linux, and ended up
>| > > > throwing it out because it was just too buggy.  Does anyone have any
>| > > > experienc on Netscape 6 on Linux?
>| > > >
>| > > > -Lee Allen
>| > >
>| > > I'd say about the same.  Have hit a few annoying hang bugs but
>| > > haven't been able to isolate them yet.  Netscape 4 was more
>| > > likely to crash instead of hang.  Which would you prefer?
>| > > At least they've gotten rid of their old clunky rendering
>| > > engine that would always mis-align things. Many web developers
>| > > have had choice words about it.
>| > >
>| >
>| > I installed v6.0 a while back.  It was awful.  It wouldn't let you
>| > configure it worth a damn.  It frequently hung and had to be killed.  It
>| > would get caught up in loops that just sucked the memory down.  It would
>| > start using up so much swap (for no reason) that my machine couldn't
>| > keep up.  I'd have to kill it and restart.
>| >
>| > Newsreader was crap.  Kept crashing, especially after long times waiting
>| > on group list.
>| >
>| > I finally went back to v4.76 and have been using it ever since.
>| >
>| > I hate the My-sidebar thing.  Its a copy of IE, and it still sucks.
>| > First of all, I don't want to make the sidebar large enough to actually
>| > display useful info.  And there are other apps out there that do a
>| > better job and less irritating that the one built into v.6.
>| >
>| > They'll be to version 6.5 before I give it another try.  Too many bugs.
>| 
>| I agree on all points.  I've given up completely on Netscape.  Besides the
>| bugs, Netscape has too much commercial content designed in, which really
>| rubs me the wrong way.  So, I use IE with Windows (when I need to access
>| Java or plugins), and Konquerer with Linux.
>| 
>| Matt O.

Use Mozilla it's now at .07 and very stable without any of the
commerical junk that's in Netscape v6.

<www.mozilla.org>


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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to find the inetd.conf
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:50:20 +0100

>>[trying to find inetd.conf]
>[use locate]
[redhat calls it xinetd.conf]

Shouldn't locate find it anyway?


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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on Athlon
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:56:21 +0100

Eric Headley wrote:
> I am thinking of buying a new machine with an Athlon chip instead of a
> Pentium 4.  Are there any problems with running Linux on Athlon ?

Well, the least I can think of is that i've heard that linux doesn't 
support the second ide-driver on the ASUS A7V mainboard ... couldn't quite 
believe it and didn't try it either.

Maybe it was something like you couldn't boot from it ... sorry, to the 
best of my recollection, i can't recall ;-)

Dirk

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From: "Martijn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help please
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:03:43 +0100

I have just installed Redhat 7.0 on a P-133 48 Mb ram
and a S3 Trio 64 video card It installed correctly but when I start X I'm
having a problem the screen flickers especially if something moves I think
because this is because the Refresh rate of the video card is too high. In
text mode there are no problems and in Windows (I have a Multi-boot system)
neither
So I would like to know how to change the refresh rate(and the resolution
and color depth) in X I can't find it in the Gnome control center any help
would be greatly appreciated BTW do you guys know if there is a
Linux-version of 3dstudioMax I know there is a Maya for Linux thanks in
advance



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From: Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Term emulator with *real* keypad emulation?
Date: 16 Jan 2001 18:08:58 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Andrew Purugganan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Donald Arseneau ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake) writes:

> [ > Is there a terminal emulator for X that accurately emulates the VT100
> [ > application keypad, including the use of NumLock as the DEC "Gold" 
> [ > editing key?

> Rogg, i don't know if this will help, see if the 'text mode console' can 
> give you your 'magic' key while in X. I am pasting directly from the 
> freshmeat.net writeup of twin:
> "Each terminal window provides the functions of a text-mode Linux 
> console. Twin runs on the Linux console, X11, libggi, and itself. It 
> supports multiple simultaneous displays, and can attach/detach each 
> display on the fly."

I ran twin with vttest yesterday; it does not work well.
        http://dickey.his.com/vttest/
(ymmv)

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://dickey.his.com
ftp://dickey.his.com

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