Linux-Misc Digest #838, Volume #25               Fri, 22 Sep 00 19:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Any GIF decoders designed for small devices?????? (MikeC)
  Re: network connection speed command ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Debian or Redhat or Caldera, and KDE or Gnome? (guy-jin)
  Re: mouse not working in Corel Linux ("Christoph Haller")
  gcc does not see unistd.h (John's Linux)
  Re: Implications (Andreas K�h�ri)
  Re: Problems with telnet ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: perl - need help with a regexp (Leejay Wu)
  Re: [OT] Re: Will Linux go bankrupt? ("Anders Gulden Olstad")
  Re: gcc does not see unistd.h (Leejay Wu)
  Re: gcc does not see unistd.h (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Linux app for labels, env, etc. (Duane)
  Re: Problems with telnet (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Mailcap restore? (jeff)
  Help with buying a comp with Linux & windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: users using mount command.... ("Steve Wolfe")
  Re: Help with buying a comp with Linux & windows ("Philo")
  Re: Implications ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MikeC)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Any GIF decoders designed for small devices??????
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:45:01 GMT

Does anybody know of good sources for GIF decoders written
specifically for small mobile devices like cellular handsets, screen
sizes up to 200x200 pixels?

The requirements are much more stringent:
  * optimized for speed, i.e. much faster than the conventional
    GIF decoders targetted for PC machines
 * optimized for memory, i.e. all memory dynamic and in small sizes
   regardless of the frame sizes. Preferably, configurable for 
   different bits#/pixel, e.g. 1,2,4,8 bits/pixel

Has to come with source code (C or C++). Open to any licensing
requirements.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: network connection speed command
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:00:03 GMT

This sounds silly, but did you look at the link lght on the back of
your nic.  It should definitely show if you are running at 10 or 100...

-phil

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Job Eisses wrote:
>
> > Ping may reluctantly allow you to calculate the speed, if you are
lucky,
> > but not whether you are connected full- or half-duplex. It would
help
> > with debugging problems to know this. The information could only
come
> > from the card driver, i haven't seen one that did it yet, but the
source
> > says it will if the debug flag is on    -job
> >
> > Chris wrote:
> > >
> > > Er, ping perhaps?
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > Joseph Cooley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I was wondering if anyone knows of a good command to find the
speed at
> > > > which a linux box is connected to the network. (i.e. 10 Mb/s or
100
> > > > Mb/s, etc.)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > Joe
> > > >
>
> It must be possible, though, because when I run Windows 95 on my other
> machine and look at the configuration of my Inter EEPro 10/100+ NIC,
it knows
> that it is running 100Mhz and in Full Duplex mode. While true, I do
not
> believe I ever told it that. I know I did not tell it here at the
Linux end.
> If Windows 95 can do it, surely Linux can do it.
>
> --
>  .~.   Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
>  /V\                              Registered Machine    73926.
> /( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
> ^^-^^  8:48am up 24 days, 16:16, 4 users, load average: 2.51, 2.27,
2.28
>
>


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From: guy-jin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Debian or Redhat or Caldera, and KDE or Gnome?
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:55:25 GMT

 well, i have been away from linux for a while.
if you dont want to read my sob story, skip ahead
to the ****'s.

for the last couple of years, i had been in the
possession of a computer that could easily be called
evil. there was something desperately wrong with the
hardware of that machine. multiple installs of dos 95
fixed nothing, and even linux behaved strangely -
processes would simply die for no apparent reason,
as if root had kill -9'ed them. and besides, all
i had for connectivity was a winmodem. linux isnt
much fun without being able to download new
applications.

anyway, i was sick of trying to debug that peice
of trash. (never buy a computer built by a guy named
don austen - lives in MO now)
***************
we got a nice new AMD K7 650 w/ 64 mb ram and a
6 gig hard drive.

i want to install linux on it, now that i have a
hardware modem. i need a new hard drive to make
room, but that is not the point.

i am in possession of 3 linux distros, each on
one CD - Red Hat Linux 6.0, Debian GNU/Linux 2.1,
and Caldera Open Linux 2.3. which of these is the
most recent? which one do you think i should install?

also, i would rather not use the packed in desktop
environment. when i had linux before (an earlier
version of redhat, dont remember which) it came
with a desktop called fwvm95. (sp?) i thought it
was very clumsy. i have read a lot about both
Gnome and KDE, and would like your opinions on
which i should use.

finally, how is linux's USB support nowadays?
last i knew, not very good - but it's been almost
2 years.

thanks in advance for any help
g.f.

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From: "Christoph Haller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mouse not working in Corel Linux
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 23:16:31 +0200

"Sajith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My mouse failed to work during the installation of Corel Linux. It worked
> fine in other distributions like Redhat. I managed the installation without
> the use of mouse and after the installation the mouse still doesn't work!
> How can I configure the mouse after the installation(in corel distribution)?
> 
> 
> Thanks to every one who tries to help.

Why don't you tell us something abou how your mouse is connected to your 
computer (usb, ps/2, serial port) and if you try to use it in X or in console?

PS: Full Name is appreciated in this NG

-- 
Christoph Haller
ceterum censeo microsoft esse dividendum

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From: John's Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gcc does not see unistd.h
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:13:58 -0700

Hi all,

for some reason when I attempt to compile a short program that includes
unistd.h,  gcc and all other c hybrid compilers fail to see unistd.h .
When I telnet into the University server and run this program it works
fine. I am "pretty" sure that Linux? gcc,... is failing to see unistd.h
because it resides in the same directory as stdio.h, which is definitely
working normally. I am running SuSE 6.3 and their support docs mention
nothing applicable. Here is the program:

#include <unistd.h>
void main()
{
    pid_t pid;   /*hold process-id in parent */

    printf("Just one process so far\n");
    printf("Calling fork...\n");

    pid = fork();   /*create new process */

    if(pid == 0)
        printf("I'n the child\n");
    else if(pid > 0)
        printf("I'm the parent, my child has pid %d\n", pid);
    else
        printf("Fork returned error code, no child\n");
}

Here is the compiler output -->

bash-2.03# gcc -o spawn spawn.c
spawn.c: In function `main':
spawn.c:4: `pid_t' undeclared (first use this function)
spawn.c:4: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
spawn.c:4: for each function it appears in.)
spawn.c:4: parse error before `pid'
spawn.c:9: `pid' undeclared (first use this function)
bash-2.03#

Here is the output from the University server on the same program -->

eel /nfs/stak/u4/j/jaynes 63% gcc -o spawn spawn.c
spawn.c: In function `main':
spawn.c:3: warning: return type of `main' is not `int'
eel /nfs/stak/u4/j/jaynes 64% ./spawn
Just one process so far
Calling fork...
I'n the child
I'm the parent, my child has pid 1608
eel /nfs/stak/u4/j/jaynes 65%


I am at a loss as to why stdio.h is visible and working normally, while
unistd.h is not. I am guessing that this might be a Linux specific
problem and not a c code problem? Any help and suggestions on this will
be greatly appreciated.

Perplexed once again,

John Jaynes


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
From: Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Sep 2000 23:19:25 +0100

In article <8qgdcb$mma$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In article <%0Iy5.12646$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Implications
>> >========
>> >
>> >So suppose that you are required to come up with a model that
>explains not
>> >only what your software does (which various OO technologies do with
>varying
>> >success), but also where your software comes from.
>>
>> Your software comes from you.
>
>I don't write every program I use, and I know I didn't write every
>program he uses.


Then I feel that choice of forums were a little bit misleading.


>
>>
>> >This requirement would
>> >force you past the von Neumann model, where the program store P
>defines the
>> >execution environment E:
>>
>> I fail to see the connection to the von Neumann model.
>> The program store does not define an execution environment.
>
>Your machine is off.  You turn it on.  Something executes.  What
>defines that something?


Ah.


>
>>
>> >
>> >             P --> E
>> >
>> >Non-trivial computer systems are constructed from a collection of
>> >software, installed in some order.
>>
>> If you're not talking about microcode, cache protocols or the like,
>> then I would say that this is nonsense. The complexity of a computer
>> system does not depend on e.g. the operating system it runs.
>
>Huh?  I can't for the life of me figure out what he could possibly mean
>here.


He? You mean me?


I mean that the software does not make the machine. The only ware that
makes a machine into what it is are the small routines implemented
into the ROM. Without protocols for maintaining cache coherence an SMP
wouldn't be an SMP. Without the microcode, the Motorola 68000 would
never have been able to execute the early Mac OS.



>>
>> >So in non-trivial computer systems, there always
>> >exists some independent definition of P.  Call this definition X.
>> >
>> >             X --> P --> E
>> >
>> >Furthermore, X is not generally a single source.  If X is a disk
>image
>> >applied to the hard drive (the P of a computer system), then X may
>in fact
>> >be a single source.  But usually it isn't.
>>
>> (void)
>>
>> >
>> >So X is made up of a set of components representing the number of
>installs n
>> >required to build up P in a given computer system.
>> >
>> >             X = {X(1), X(2), X(3),...,X(n)}
>> >
>> >Our current software architectures do not model X.  In fact, they
>doesn't
>> >tend to model installation and integration at all.  IT spends 75
>percent of
>> >their money in this area, but it doesn't seem to be important enough
>to
>> >study.
>>
>> Eh, what's "software architecture"? I know that the hardware
>> architecture does not model X (the software). That's because it's not
>> its task.
>
>  X is the set of software that can be installed on a computer system.
>  P is the set of installed software in a computer system.
>  E is what you get when you turn your computer system on.
>
>I get the impression that he didn't have a clue.


That's me again, isn't it?

Do you have a clue? *I* don't know how much IT companies invest in
various areas, and I don't know where you get your numbers from.

Why do we want to model X?


>
>> >
>> >With open software, modeling X is even more important, since the
>various
>> >components of X come from different sources, and in many different
>releases
>> >and versions.  Understanding and modeling how this is done will lead
>to
>> >better solutions and mechanisms for software development and
>distribution.
>>
>> Buggerit.
>>
>> Why do we want to model software?! Please, tell me! Oh, don't bother
>> BTW, I just killfiled you anyway so I won't see your answer.
>
>Everything we do is patterned around some model of the problem.  That
>is what math is, a model of the relationships between concepts.  If you
>can prove things about the real world using mathmatical models, you can
>reach the moon.
>
>My claim is that we have a big integration, development, and deployment
>problem with software.  And we do not have an appropriate model of the
>problem.  Why would we need such a model?  Well, so we can make
>progress, do things better, understand what and why we do what we do.


I did a Deja-search on you and found a lot of this... I'm going to cut
a little...

[cut]
>>
>> Intresting views, but really off topic.
>>
>> *plonk*, sir.
>>
>> What a strange person...
>
>Thanks.


I'm truly sorry, but I wish I had a reference to an article that you
might like (or is it a book?). "The Selfish Gene" (I don't have the
name of the author here right now). It's about how our genes are in
fact using us as a vessel. It sounds something like what you wrote in
that last part of your original post. Make a web search, you ought to
find it.


Good night all.

/A

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problems with telnet
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:11:39 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:28:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >I have a RH 6.2 installation at work as a internet gateway. We use
this
> >crap satelite access through a company, thus the connection always
cuts
> >in and out. The problem is that when the connection to the internet
is
> >not working, i can't telnet to the linuxbox at the same time. But as
> >soon as the internet comes back up, i can get in without any
problems.
> >Any suggestions?
>
> telnetting from where?  If you're telnetting from another Unix box, it
> would be a good idea to put that Linux machine's IP address and
hostname
> in /etc/hosts like so:
> 192.168.1.2     machine.somehwere.org           machine
>
> (similar for 'Doze boxes, but the file is somewhere within the depths
of
> C:\WINDOZE\ .) That should help.  Also, if the machine you're
telnetting
> from and the Linux box are not on the same subnet, you're not going to
> be able to get to the Linux machine without access to the rest of the
> Net.
>
> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us
to see
> Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Those who do not understand Unix are
> http://www.brainbench.com     /   condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> -----------------------------/           --Henry Spencer
>


We have a windows network, and i want to telnet in from any computer to
do what i need to do. It's a small network all on the same subnet. It
seems that there is only a problem telneting in when the internet
connection goes down. I don't think it's a windows problem. Probobly an
issue with the linux machine not accepting the connection or something.
Any other suggestions?

~geoff~


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From: Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: perl - need help with a regexp
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:45:07 -0400

[ng's trimmed.  Hm.  Probably belongs in comp.lang.perl.misc, actually. ]

Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 22-Sep-100 perl - need help
with a [EMAIL PROTECTED] (461*) by 
> i have a string similar to the following:
>  
>  <A HREF="http://my.host.com/blah/blah.html"  LAST_VISIT="0"
> LAST_MODIFIED="0">blah blah</A>
>  
> i want to extract just the web page location, ie.
> http://my.host.com/blah/blah.html
>  
> This is the expression i'm using:
>           @URLArray = m/(http:.*")/i;

The .* is greedy, so we just replace it with something that 
won't match quotes (assuming that you NEVER want to see a
quote matched)...

@URLarray = m/(http:[^"]*)/i;

would stop at the first " after the http: bit.

Check CPAN; they're likely to have modules (a search for 'URL'
suggests URI::URL) in case you're going to be doing lots of
URL manipulation/webfoo and want to avoid reinventing the wheel.

> but it matches the entire line up until the last " which isn't 
> what i want. i want it to match everything until the first " only. 
> how do i do this?

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From: "Anders Gulden Olstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Will Linux go bankrupt?
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 23:52:41 +0200

YY Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Will Linux go bankrupt?  That ain't gonna happen.  Linux distro companies
> can seize and desist but not Linus.

His code may be immortal, but not Linus himself. 

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From: Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gcc does not see unistd.h
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:05:20 -0400

Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 22-Sep-100 gcc does not see
unistd.h by John's [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> for some reason when I attempt to compile a short program 
> that includes unistd.h,  gcc and all other c hybrid compilers 
> fail to see unistd.h.   When I telnet into the University 
> server and run this program it works fine. I am "pretty" sure 

Oh, it's seeing it... this is just part of the, er, FUN of 
going coding on multiple platforms, methinks. 

> that Linux? gcc,... is failing to see unistd.h because it 
> resides in the same directory as stdio.h, which is definitely
> working normally. I am running SuSE 6.3 and their support docs 
> mention nothing applicable. Here is the program:

The header files are different on the two operating systems.

I used 'cpp' to pre-process your C program on both SunOS 5.7
and a highly mutated Red Hat 5.2 (kerberos, AFS, other misc
foo).

On the Red Hat box, header files used included -- (yielded by
   cpp foo.c | grep "\.h" | cut -d " " -f3 | sort | uniq
and ignoring junk)

==================
"/usr/include/confname.h"
"/usr/include/features.h"
"/usr/include/gnu/stubs.h"
"/usr/include/gnu/types.h"
"/usr/include/posix_opt.h"
"/usr/include/sys/cdefs.h"
"/usr/include/unistd.h"
"/usr/local/libexec/gcc-2.95.2/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.95.2/include/gnu
/types.h"
"/usr/local/libexec/gcc-2.95.2/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.95.2/include/std
def.h"


On Solaris,
==================
"/usr/include/sys/feature_tests.h"
"/usr/include/sys/int_types.h"
"/usr/include/sys/isa_defs.h"
"/usr/include/sys/machtypes.h"
"/usr/include/sys/select.h"
"/usr/include/sys/time.h"
"/usr/include/sys/time_impl.h"
"/usr/include/sys/types.h"     <--------  NOT auto-included in the 
"/usr/include/sys/unistd.h"               RHAT environment, it seems
"/usr/include/time.h"
"/usr/include/unistd.h"

On both systems, __pid_t was used internally, and pid_t was
typedef'd in /usr/include/sys/types.h.  

Adding this #include allowed it to compile and run on the 
RHAT system.  There might be #defines governing what gets
auto-#included and what-not, but this seems to work.

HTH.

> #include <unistd.h>
> void main()
> {
>     pid_t pid;   /*hold process-id in parent */
>  
>     printf("Just one process so far\n");
>     printf("Calling fork...\n");
>  
>     pid = fork();   /*create new process */
>  
>     if(pid == 0)
>         printf("I'n the child\n");
>     else if(pid > 0)
>         printf("I'm the parent, my child has pid %d\n", pid);
>     else
>         printf("Fork returned error code, no child\n");
> }
>  
> Here is the compiler output -->
>  
> bash-2.03# gcc -o spawn spawn.c
> spawn.c: In function `main':
> spawn.c:4: `pid_t' undeclared (first use this function)
> spawn.c:4: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> spawn.c:4: for each function it appears in.)
> spawn.c:4: parse error before `pid'
> spawn.c:9: `pid' undeclared (first use this function)
> bash-2.03#
>  
> Here is the output from the University server on the same program -->
>  
> eel /nfs/stak/u4/j/jaynes 63% gcc -o spawn spawn.c
> spawn.c: In function `main':
> spawn.c:3: warning: return type of `main' is not `int'
> eel /nfs/stak/u4/j/jaynes 64% ./spawn
> Just one process so far
> Calling fork...
> I'n the child
> I'm the parent, my child has pid 1608
> eel /nfs/stak/u4/j/jaynes 65%
>  
>  
> I am at a loss as to why stdio.h is visible and working normally, while
> unistd.h is not. I am guessing that this might be a Linux specific
> problem and not a c code problem? Any help and suggestions on this will
> be greatly appreciated.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: gcc does not see unistd.h
Date: 22 Sep 2000 18:17:32 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John's Linux wrote:
> for some reason when I attempt to compile a short program that includes
> unistd.h,  gcc and all other c hybrid compilers fail to see unistd.h .
> When I telnet into the University server and run this program it works
> fine. I am "pretty" sure that Linux? gcc,... is failing to see unistd.h
> because it resides in the same directory as stdio.h, which is definitely
> working normally. I am running SuSE 6.3 and their support docs mention
> nothing applicable.

What documentation are you reading?  (See below.)

> Here is the program:
>
> #include <unistd.h>
> void main()
> {
>    pid_t pid;   /*hold process-id in parent */
 [etc.]

(Did you forget to "#include <stdio.h>"?  Also, please, main() returns
int.)

> Here is the compiler output -->
>
> bash-2.03# gcc -o spawn spawn.c
> spawn.c: In function `main':
> spawn.c:4: `pid_t' undeclared (first use this function)

> I am at a loss as to why stdio.h is visible and working normally, while
> unistd.h is not. I am guessing that this might be a Linux specific
> problem and not a c code problem? Any help and suggestions on this will
> be greatly appreciated.

<unistd.h> _is_ being found.  If it weren't, then you would get an error
message like:

: spawn.c:1: unistd.h: No such file or directory

There are two ways to deal with your problem.

(1) When you look for the pid_t documentation in the libc info pages, you
will see

:                                                      You can get the
: process ID of a process by calling `getpid'.  The function `getppid'
: returns the process ID of the parent of the current process (this is
: also known as the "parent process ID").  Your program should include
: the header files `unistd.h' and `sys/types.h' to use these functions.

(2) When you peek at /usr/include/unistd.h, you should see that a typedef
of pid_t shortly follows

: #ifdef __USE_XOPEN
: /* The Single Unix specification says that some more types are
:    available here.  */

The proper way to get the X/Open functionality is to define the macro
_XOPEN_SOURCE.  This is documented in the libc info pages; see the node
called "Feature test macros".  (Alternatively, see the file
/usr/include/features.h.)  Running "gcc -D_XOPEN_SOURCE ..." should compile
your code.

-- 
Paul Kimoto
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From: Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux app for labels, env, etc.
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:42:51 -0700

"Martin R. Soderstrom" wrote:
> 
> Hi, all.  Looking for opinions, here.  I use vim and LaTeX for most of my
> writing/wordprocessing, but sometimes I need labels, letters, envelopes,
> etc. and I was wondering what a good choice would be?  Star Office?  A
> wysiwyg text editor for Latex (a la LyX)?  I don't want to go overkill,
> here, but it would be nice to not have to remember a huge process for
> something I only do now and then.
> 
> Any ideas welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- Martin

As much as I dislike the monstrous size of StarOffice, it has built in
formats for lots of different Avery labels. This is almost the only
thing I use StarOffice for, but it handles them very well and is easy to
setup and use. Just select File->New->Labels to see what is available.

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My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Problems with telnet
Date: 22 Sep 2000 18:22:27 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8qghtp$s7s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:28:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> I have a RH 6.2 installation at work as a internet gateway. We use this
>>> crap satelite access through a company, thus the connection always cuts
>>> in and out. The problem is that when the connection to the internet is
>>> not working, i can't telnet to the linuxbox at the same time. But as
>>> soon as the internet comes back up, i can get in without any problems.

>> telnetting from where?  If you're telnetting from another Unix box, it
>> would be a good idea to put that Linux machine's IP address and hostname
>> in /etc/hosts like so:
>> 192.168.1.2     machine.somehwere.org           machine
>>
>> (similar for 'Doze boxes, but the file is somewhere within the depths of
>> C:\WINDOZE\ .) That should help.

> We have a windows network, and i want to telnet in from any computer to
> do what i need to do. It's a small network all on the same subnet. It
> seems that there is only a problem telneting in when the internet
> connection goes down. I don't think it's a windows problem. Probobly an
> issue with the linux machine not accepting the connection or something.

Did you _try_ Dance With Crow's suggestion?  It is possible that the Linux
box is having trouble using DNS to resolve the client machine's address.
By putting the hostnames in /etc/hosts (and the right things in
/etc/resolv.conf, or /etc/nsswitch.conf, or wherever), it won't need to try
DNS on the external network.

-- 
Paul Kimoto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jeff)
Subject: Re: Mailcap restore?
Date: 22 Sep 2000 22:23:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well... If anyone's interested, I solved the problem by backing out KDE. 
/etc/mailcap was, much to my surprise, restored to native X values!  I
assume that Debian's great manager did this, but that's only a guess.

-jeff


On 22 Sep 2000 16:44:14 GMT, jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I recently installed a KDE 2 beta, just to check it out.  It _looks like_
>KDE took over my /etc/mailcap, overlaying any mime handler that it thought
>it could cover.  (If this is really true, it is VERY annoying - the kind of
>behavior that you'd expect from some Windows software - which take over
>file associations just because they can.)
>
>At any rate, the question is: Is there an easy way to restore mailcap to use
>default X values?
>
>TIA for any help or insights.  (Debian 2.2, BTW)
>
>-jeff

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help with buying a comp with Linux & windows
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 22:23:26 GMT

For profesional reasons, I need Windows 2000 as a high priority item,
then Linux. Should I:

- buy a Windows 2000 (laptop), then buy and load Linux later for
dual boot

or

- buy a Linux laptop, then buy and load Windows 2000 later?

tia.

(If that helps, I need to run clearcase on my laptop at home,
and linux is not supported as a server yet)

and if that helps, I've never used Linux, and barely know Windows,
but very comfortable with Unix.


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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: users using mount command....
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:30:12 -0600

> Is there an alternative to using the mount command for mounting floppies
> besides using mtools.  It is incredibly annoying when my users don't
> unmount there floppies and just take there disk and leave.

  Have their .logout check to see if they unmounted the floppy, if they
didn't, it should then lock their account, or some equally punitive action.
: )

steve




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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with buying a comp with Linux & windows
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:51:26 -0500


i'm sure you will get many opinions but i think i'd get a linux box first
just to familiarize yourself with it and test it to it's limits without
having to worry about some other operating system on the drive...
the first few installations i did were solely for the purpose of seeing what
you could and *could not* do!
then once you're familiar you can do exactly the installation you like



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 22:53:07 GMT

In article <%0Iy5.12646$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "paul snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[
> Adding software to my software library is a literal form of computer
sex.

Ah, that would explain that thoroughly fscked feeling I get when
clicking through a EULA.  And people think I'm joking when I tell them
our network is a clusterfsck.  It really is by your definition.

Gotta go, I'm busy installing Norton's new Condoms for Windows.  Can't
wait for the lubricated version to get out of beta....


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