Linux-Misc Digest #838, Volume #18               Sun, 31 Jan 99 13:13:14 EST

Contents:
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
  Re: encrypted file system (William Burrow)
  Postscript image editor for Linux? (Henry S. Greenside)
  Re: kernel 2.2.0 and too fast MIDI play ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: encrypted file system (Gary Momarison)
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Jeff Smith")
  Re: Apache really SIMPLE question ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
  Re: could someone suggest a window manager for me? (Mykool)
  Re: (Symbolic) Links Again (William Burrow)

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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:15:39 +1100

G'day...


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thanks for adding that last bit.  It pretty much invalidates your entire
> argument.  The U.S. lost market share in chipmaking back in the 70s, not in
> 1998.  Things have changed a LOT in the last couple of decades.  Japan used

and  Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You're in error here, the greatest invention in the electronic industry have
> come from the US. It may be true that some of the greatest minds weren't born
> in the USA but we're Americans even if we're born somewhere else.


No.  (And let me say right now, that no offense is meant or should be taken from
my following remarks.) You are both missing the whole point here.  Both of you
make no attempts to substantiate (please, its too late to even try to start now)
your claims (unlike others have done) and both fail to look beyond your own world
view and definitions of things as you see them.

A person finds it difficult and annoying to have a discussion with someone about
any particular point when the other person is being inflexible, yet they
themselves are.

This type of behaviour is why many people say "Damn Yanks!", and get fed up.  If
you wish people to think your country is as great as you say it is, then don't let
yourself fall into the stereotypes  (and stereotypes, aren't necessarily true)!

Fortunately, I know all people from the USA don't act like this, however others
will see this as the example, and have their impressions marred!  (Think about it,
you are posting to an international forum, you are an ambassador from your
country, like it or not.)

All countries have their good points and bad points. (Again, I'll say it.) Just
because something is different doesn't necessarily make it bad or worse, lesser,
or inferior in any way.  It simply means that it is different.

Yes, the US has come up with a lot of great stuff, and you can celebrate that just
as much as you want.  Just remember that the US has a lot of other countries to
thank in the process, and shouldn't rub other countries noses in the dirt just
because the US came up with it first, or they didn't come up with what you did.
And this certainly does not make the US's achievements implicitly better than
another countries.

A good lesson in social interaction, celebrate other countries/peoples/entities
achievements just as much, if not more,  than your own.  Whilst you at it get a
copy of the book "How to win friends and influence people" by D. Carnegie. (I
believe he's from the US, which actually substantiates my point rather than
nullify them).

This argument is getting more than tiresome, and has nothing to do with Linux.

Michael.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: encrypted file system
Date: 31 Jan 1999 16:30:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 30 Jan 1999 23:39:35 -0800,
Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It seems to me that a serious issue with an encrypted fs could be
>corruption.  What happens if the lights go out while the system is on?

Funny.

For those looking for encrypted file systems, I believe there are at least
a couple for Linux.  An old one was CFS.  I don't believe that it is
maintained anymore.  Search for Linux sites with filesystem listings.




-- 
William Burrow  --  New Brunswick, Canada             o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow                     ~  /\
                                                ~  ()>()

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henry S. Greenside)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.postscript,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Postscript image editor for Linux?
Date: 31 Jan 1999 10:26:40 -0500


This must be a FAQ but I could not find an answer easily: is
there a Linux application that allows one to edit postscript
images in graphical form?

What I would like to be able to do are:

1. Read in a postscript image, crop it, resize it, and label it.

2. Take multiple postscript images and create a single
   image out of them (e.g., creating a figure for a
   scientific journal with several panels).

The output should be in .eps or .ps form so that the
resolution is device independent.

        Thanks,
        
        Henry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: kernel 2.2.0 and too fast MIDI play
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:54:28 GMT

In article <78rq1s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Wolfsheimer) wrote:
> Glenn PM ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : I made and installed kernel 2.2.0 including the second patch, last
> : night. All seems to work well except for MIDI sounds. They are being
> : played at about what seems to be,  50% faster than they should. I run
> : them with timidity. Has anyone else experienced this?
> Yes. This problem began around kernel 2.1.120. Upon discovering that playmidi
> did not have the same problem, I realized it was probably not a kernel bug,
> but a bug with timidity. You need to upgrade timidity. Last I checked, the
> maintainer was not going to continue work on it, but a group of Japanese
> developers picked it up. Look for "timidity-0.2i+AC3-modified.tar.gz" or
> newer. It is a well-organized package with many more options than the
> original package (and it works).
>
>   //============== Chad Wolfsheimer ===== Brown University ==============\\
>  //================== UNIX System/Network Administration =================\\
>  \\= [EMAIL PROTECTED] == [EMAIL PROTECTED] =//
>   \\=========== http://static-243.goddard.brown.edu/~cwolfshe ===========//
>

Hi Chad,

Thanks for the input. I couldn't find "timidity-0.2i+AC3-modified.tar.gz" but
I did locate Timidity++-1.2.1 at
http://www.goice.co.jp/member/mo/timidity/dist/download.html. Is this what
you were referring to?

Now I have problems in getting it to configure:

checking for snd_cards in -lasound... (cached) no
No linkable libasound was found.

and

checking for GTK - version >= 1.1.3... no *** Could not run GTK test program,
checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file
config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK was
incorrectly installed *** or that you have moved GTK since it was installed.
In the latter case, you *** may want to edit the gtk-config script:
/usr/bin/gtk-config

I couldn't find "lasound" or "asound" anywhere with any searches.
As far as GTK, I have 1.1.13 and I don't see anything wrong with it or the
config file. I also did a rpm -Uvh --force to make sure. Have you compiled it
yet?

Best Regards,
Glenn

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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: encrypted file system
Date: 31 Jan 1999 09:50:22 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Dickopp) writes:

> ///////////  Remember that when a file is deleted, only the inode
> and the directory entry are deallocated, but the actual data is
> not changed.

Read the man page of "chattr". There's a file attribute which
causes the disk file to be zeroed before deletion.

-- 
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html



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From: "Jeff Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:50:44 -0800

Well, I see you all took the comment of "Make Linux the Only OS" literally.
I also would not want that to happen, it couldn't. Look at the embedded
market. They pick the OS that best fits their machine. What I meant was, I
think  the Linux "Minds to be" should be targeting the Desktop market
more...Linux can be a viable replacement to Windows.

Jeff Smith



Stewart Stremler wrote in message <78ugm4$b6g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Jeff Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>[snip]
>> run Linux because I want to. I'm an old coder by heart and see Linux as
an
>> opportunity to be the only OS. Yes, that's a dream way-off, but remember
>> that Linux IS developed by the "world", we can make it do more that MS
does,
>> but do it right!
>
>I think it's this implicit belief that there _should_ be only ONE OS that
>will do Linux the most damage.
>
>Why should there be only one? Doesn't that presume that everyone is
>the same, thinks the same, solves problems the same, handles abstraction
>the same?
>
>> Bill is a great businessman, or how could he have sold us all SHIT for
>> years. Better yet, why did we buy it. My answer is that it was the best
that
>
>True.
>
>> was out there at the time.
>
>I'd contest that. There were alternatives that were better... but the idea
>that there should be only _one_ meant that people stopped thinking and
>tried to second-guess the future.
>
>>                            Linux is finally taking off...who knows, with
>> corp. backing ( IBM, Compaq and the like)  and "No one Person"
responsible
>> for it, it could be the only OS to use -- Time will tell.
>
>I hope not. I want Linux to succeed, but I don't want it to be the ONLY
>operating system. There's an arrogance that comes from that perception,
>and much of the benefit of Linux is that it doesn't think of itself as
>the *only* OS, so applications take some effort to be clean & portable.
>
>I *like* knowing that in addition to Linux there's FreeBSD and other BSD
>variants, OS/2, PIOS, BeOS, MacOS, AmigaOS, Solaris, Irix, HP-UX, OSF/1,
>and so forth. The OS shapes the way a programmer interacts with the system,
>and that interaction influences problem-solving.
>
>With many OSs, everyone benefits from the hybrid vigor and
cross-pollenization
>that results from disparate solutions to common problems.
>
>--
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
> "It must be depressing to go through life with |   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  no purpose."      -Calvin (_Calvin & Hobbes_) |      Stewart Stremler



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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Apache really SIMPLE question
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:45:23 +1100

G'day...


> "shouldn't that be http://www.apache.org?"
>
> Yeah.. it should be. I was thinking of http://www.foxwoods.com ;)

Hrmm...  getting a casino and a http server mixed up....  I'm worried about
you...  ;) =)

Ciao...

Michael.


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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:40:47 +1100

G'day...


> : Hey... we don't talk funny you guys do...!  =)  (Well, its certainly not "The 
>Queen's English"
> : is it?) =P ;)
>
> The Queen's not English! She's German....
> :)

Hrmm.... I thought being an English (read UK) citizen she would have to been English 
no matter where she came from.   (And
wouldn't that make her something other than the English Queen?)  (Heheh... a few play 
on words here...)

Besides, I thought "The Queens English" was the name given to the official 
pronounciation of the English language.  (Probably
antiquidated now, anyway.)


> (I'm having a sudden feeling of deja vu. I could've sworn I'd answered this
> before via e-mail.... Oh well)

Funny, I'm getting the sudden feeling of deja vu.... I could've sworn I'd read this 
before in my email....


> P.S. Your line length is way off. It should be set to about 75 to be usenet
> compliant.

*Erk...!*  Damn Netscape!  I've been wondering wtf has been going on with it...  Its 
frustrated the hell out of me... (and
frustrated me more, that it frustrates others)... My apologies, I have been trying to 
work this one out.

I've think I've fixed it...  <crosses fingers>  ... One would expect the line length 
to be set to the standard.  (It's under
wrap long lines after... settings in Preferences... here I was thinking that was just 
for what I was being displayed when I had
the "wrap long lines" option on...  stupid me for expecting an app to follow a 
standard...)

That's it!  If this doesn't work, I'm going back to good old pine!  =)

Browser integrated applications (amongst other integrated apps) seem to be a damn law 
unto themselves and giving the birdie to
anyone who doesn't like it... (Which is really stupid if someone else can't even read 
what your saying.)  (Posting in HTML
*really* gets on my goat - and people continue to do so oblivious to the fact its not 
standard because of MS Internet Explorere
and Netscrape err Netscape.)

(The fact that even though its become OSS, Netscape's communicator and navigator apps 
are behind other platforms is also quite
annoying, and demonstrates laziness to me...)

Anyways... I'm ranting and rambling again....  (Hey, at least its gone back towards 
Linux!) =)

All the best...

Michael.


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From: Mykool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: could someone suggest a window manager for me?
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:57:31 +0000

Eric Wyles wrote:
> 
> I am currently using KDE, which I really like, but it is a memory hog.
> I have 64 MB and if I do a fresh boot and then start X and KDE, my
> memory is completely full.  I can start X with fvwm2 and then StarOffice
> and still have about 15-20 meg free.  This is ok, but I really don't
> like fvwm2.  I would like to find something where I am not forced to
> have more that one virtual desktop.  If someone could tell me how to
> turn that feature off in fvwm2 that would be a big help.  I never use
> more than one desktop (I just minimize everything), and the placement of
> the desktop selector in fvwm2 is very inconvenient because  it cover up
> my scrollbars when I have a window maximized.  If anyone could suggest a
> good window manager and where to get it, or tell me how to customize
> fvwm2, I would appreciate it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Eric

I guess I'll comment on this also.  For the past week, I have tried as
many window managers as I could find.  I, too, had decided to dump KDE. 
After a week of experimenting and playing, I decided on Window Maker. 
Depending on the person you talk to, they either love it or hate it. 
It's all personal preference.
-- 
Michael Barnhill

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte294f

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: (Symbolic) Links Again
Date: 31 Jan 1999 16:07:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 30 Jan 1999 22:57:13 -0500,
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow) writes:
>
>> Every system I've run across tries to use different terminology [for
>> what it calls a file].
>
>multics called them `segments' (iirc files were memory mapped) which
>is the origin of the unix `ls' command -- *L*ist *S*egments.

I thought I read somewhere it stood for List Structures.  Can't find a 
reference, though I did turn up an interesting Multics site:

http://www.multicians.org

Just jam packed with Multics info.  The term segment is defined, and
the following phrase can be found:

Correct use of the terms "file" and "segment" is a sure sign of a Multician.

I guess the Unix equivalent is that the correct use of the terms "file"
and "inode" is a sure sign of a unix-head. ;)

-- 
William Burrow  --  New Brunswick, Canada             o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow                     ~  /\
                                                ~  ()>()

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