Linux-Misc Digest #889, Volume #25               Thu, 28 Sep 00 10:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Timeserver for RH 6.1 or 6.2 (ray)
  Re: port windows application into Linux? (Tony Lawrence)
  Linux Deployment Tools ("J.Smith")
  Re: Serial input/output error (jeff)
  Re: 2 SCSI cards in one machine (Larry Irons)
  Does Anyone know How to DO this? ("Jack")
  rpm confusion (Peter Buzanits)
  Re: Unresolved Symbols (RH 6.2 on AMD T-bird on Abit KA-7 board) ("MH")
  Re: laptop rh6.2 and PPP (Dances With Crows)
  Re: searching for old x game (Dances With Crows)
  HELP!! simple device driver for mapping piece of /dev/mem to user space 
(ferdinand.cornelissen)
  Re: rpm confusion (Martin Herrman)
  ATI Xpert (Rage 128, AGP) - RedHat 7 ("Brian")
  Re: dmesg? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: BIND ACL Workarounds (was: Re: been hacked...have a question) (MIchael Erskine)

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From: ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Timeserver for RH 6.1 or 6.2
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:12:52 GMT

"David M. Cook" wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:04:08 -0400, jhuman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know where I can find a timeserver (Redhat) for my internal LAN?
>
> Look for xntp or ntp on your distro CD.
>
> Dave Cook

Yes, and then, look here for setup help

http://raymondjones.net/ntpguide.html

--
Ray R. Jones
Errors have been made. Others will be blamed.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP://raymondjones.net




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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: port windows application into Linux?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:22:23 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I want to port some applications from Windows98/NT into Linux.  Who knows
> how to do that?
> 
> I've heard before that there's a Linux project that is a windows emulator
> under Linux and could let some window application run under Linux.  Who
> knows any information about that project?


As phrased, you are talking about Wine.  There's also Win4lin and
VMware: http://pcunix.com/Reviews/win4lin.html


-- 
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests, 
job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com

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From: "J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Deployment Tools
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:35:47 +0100

Hi.


I am looking for tools that would help to deploy and manage Linux and
replace M$-Windows. However, I have become rather accustomed to the
deployment and management tools that the M$ world has to offer. Some
examples of what I am looking for for Linux are:


* Automated OS installation on a clean system, possibly in combination with
boot from network.
* Automated hardware detection and installation during the automated OS
install.
* Scheduled and automated application installation, removal, and
configuration.
* wake up from lan.
* Hardware and Software Inventory.
* Centralized user management


It would be nice if there was some kind of integrated deployment toolkit out
there, but I doubt there is. I guess that it will boil down to getting
seperated packages that do *ONE* of these things, and then integrate it all
myself using shell-scripts and such?

All information, tips, or links to web-sites on Linux Deployment and
management in medium to large sites is more than welcome.


Thanks.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jeff)
Subject: Re: Serial input/output error
Date: 28 Sep 2000 12:44:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:51:13 +0000 (UTC),
  David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 26 Sep 2000 14:00:33 GMT, jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >This is beginning to drive me nuts.  My two serial ports don't work with
> >Debian 2.2 - setserial always returns "Input/output error," even when I try
> >just the -g parm, or with autoconfig. stty returns the same thing.  The
> >hardware is fine, since it works with SuSE 6.4 and various versions of
> >lesser OSs.  CMOS setup verifies that serial ports are setup correctly,
> >using conventional default settings.
> >
> >/var/log/dmesg shows...
> >Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
> >ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
> >ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
> >
> >Serial ports are, I believe, "16550A equivalent," (ASUS P3B-F motherboard)
> >and the settings shown in dmesg are correct.  Serial driver is loaded, and
> >(default Debian install) kernel looks like it supports serial.  (I tried
> >removing CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD=y, for yucks, but no difference.)
> >
> >I get exactly the same result when I disable the onboard serial ports
> >and try a four-port FlexPort, though the FlexPort also works under other
> >OSs.  Also the same when I boot harddisk from a different (identical)
> >machine.
> >
> >I'm SURE that this is something real simple, but I've read the Serial HOWTO
> >from cover to cover, but got no clues.  Disregarding the serial problem,
> >BTW, I couldn't be happier with Debian.  Can anyone help me figure this out?
> 
> So you are saying that 'setserial -bg /dev/ttyS0' or ttyS1 give you
> errors?  You aren't trying to use the obsolete cua devices are you?
> 

Nope - I'm trying to use /dev/ttys0 and /dev/ttys1.

-jeff

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From: Larry Irons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: 2 SCSI cards in one machine
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:57:49 GMT

Michael Meissner wrote:

> Larry Irons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Larry Irons wrote:
> >
> > > I have a Linux computer running Caldera OpenLinux 2.3. It has been
> > > running fine for over a year with one Adaptec 2940 SCSI card with 5 SCSI
> > > hard drives attached. We have added a 2nd Adaptec 2930 SCSI card with a
> > > SCSI 8mm tape drive. At boot the BIOS for both drives is recognized as
> > > well as all of the devices. One Hard drive SCSI card is on irq 11 and
> > > the tape SCSI card is on irq 5. There are no device conflicts for irqs.
> > > There are no device conflicts for i/o ports.
> > >
> > > Linux does not see the 2nd SCSI controller, but it sees the first one. I
> > > do a "dmesg" and there is no mention of the second controller.
> > >
> > > There are no additional LILO boot parms for the Adaptec aic78xx driver
> > > regarding irqs and i/o ports. Currently the SCSI driver for the
> > > controller is being loaded as a module. Is there anything that I can do
> > > to get the 2nd controller to be recognized by the kernel?
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > --
> > > Larry Irons
> > > Senior Geophysicist
> > > Tricon Geophysics Inc.
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > To everyone:
> >
> > Thanks for your replies. I sent an email to Caldera's support line and I got
> > this back -
> >
> > Summary:  Getting Linux to recognize 2nd SCSI card
> > SUGGESTED SOLUTION:
> > At 09/22/2000 08:23 AM we wrote - Unfortunately the Adaptec 2930 is
> > not listed as supported hardware by OpenLinux 2.3
> > (http://www.calderasystems.com/support/hardware/2.3/hardware-scsi.html).
> > The current modules written for other adaptec cards (the aic7xx) may
> > not work with the 2930 SCSI controller.  You may want to try
> > removing the first controller and leaving the 2930 in to see if the
> > aic7xx module will load and work for it.  If it fails at boot up try
> > loading it from the commandline with the modprobe command (if you
> > can get into your system without the other controller):
>
> I don't know about earlier 2930 scsi controllers, but the normal adaptec driver
> supports 2930U scsi controllers used in conjunction with other scsi controllers
> (in my case, a builtin 7896 controller).  I suspect what is happening is your
> 2930 is sharing an IRQ with something incompatible.  If this is the case, you
> might try rotating the card through your PCI slots.  Another thought is to
> rebuild the kernel, making the adaptec controller builtin into the kernel,
> rather than a module.  You might also try adding "aic7xxx=verbose" to the boot
> line to get more information.
>
> --
> Michael Meissner, Red Hat, Inc.
> PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
> Work:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]           phone: +1 978-486-9304
> Non-work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   fax:   +1 978-692-4482

Thanks for that info. I upgraded the kernel to 2.2.17 and built the aic7xxx support
into the kernel. I did not use any boot parameters. Both SCSI cards and all
attached SCSI hardware are recognized at boot.

Larry

--
Larry Irons
A Direct Descendant of William the Conqueror, Charlemagne, Clovis, Edward III,
Edward I Longshanks, King John, and Tonantius Ferreolus
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.irons-assoc.com/



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From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Does Anyone know How to DO this?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:52:50 +0100

I had 2 6GB HD with NT and other stuff on the first HD.
The second HD had 3GB (FAT) first partition for my data
The rest of the 2nd HD partition were used for linux. With
the boot partition on /dev/hdb5

Now I have replaced the 2 6GB HD with a single 13GB HD
I have done an image copy (using Power Quest's Drive Image)
 of my NT and linux partions from the old 2 6GB HD onto the
new single 13 GB HD successfully. NT boots OK. The boot
partition for Linux has now changed to say /dev/hda5

Problem:
Obviously my original bootable floppy and etc/fstab on the current HD
 still points to hdb5. I have edited /etc/lilo.conf on the floppy to point
to
/dev/hda5 and when I boot from the floppy reports a "panic" (i think kernel
panic)
error. I have tried re-booting using the Redhat 6.2 CD in rescue mode and
using:
mount -t ext2 /dev/hda5 /     to mount the root directory. I think it mounts
the dir
because the listing shows some of my files. However when I when I do a
listing
in the /etc directory I only see files that were already there by the virtue
of the
bootable CD. Hence /etc/mtab is there but /etc/fstab is NOT there.

Que
How can I restore the system from here. What files do I need to modify.
Any link? how to? Any help greatly appreciated.

Jack





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From: Peter Buzanits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rpm confusion
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:07:38 +0200

# rpm -i packetname.rpm
package packetname is already installed

# rpm -e packetname.rpm
error: package packetname is not installed

# rpm -V packetname.rpm
package packetname is not installed

# rpm --version
RPM version 3.0.3


Any ideas what's wrong?
It failed to install the first time, but that should not yield to this behavior...

Thanks,
Peter
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From: "MH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Unresolved Symbols (RH 6.2 on AMD T-bird on Abit KA-7 board)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 06:21:02 -0700

I have the same problem with an ASUS A7V and an AMD TB.  Since the system
can't be booted after installation, how the hell did you manage to recompile
your kernel?

"Michael Hohensee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm having problems properly compiling a kernel + modules for my RH 6.2
> system, running on an AMD T-bird with an Abit KA-7 motherboard.  Before
> booting up for the first time, I had to recompile the kernel to prevent
> it from attempting to turn off the nonexistant PIII identifier number
> (which always resulted in a kernel panic).  The only thing I changed in
> the default kernel configuration was the Processor Type & Features menu
> via 'make xconfig'.  The machine now boots successfully, but is unable
> to insmod any of the modules in /lib/modules.  It first runs into a huge
> sequence of depmod errors:
>
> <Snip>
> Sep 11 12:03:20 G22-71 rc.sysinit: Remounting root filesystem in
> read-write mode succeeded
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod:
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/autofs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/coda.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/fat.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/hfs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/hpfs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/lockd.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/minix.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/ncpfs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/nfs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/nfsd.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/romfs.o
> ...
> <Etc>
>
> It does this for every module in /lib/modules.  So naturally:
>
> <Snip>
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 autofs: autofs startup succeeded
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 automount[382]: starting automounter version
> 3.1.4, path = /misc, maptype = file, mapname = /etc/auto.misc
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 random: Initializing random number generator
> succeeded
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/autofs.o:
> insmod autofs failed
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 automount[382]: /misc: mount failed!
> ...
> <Etc>
>
> Interestingly enough, the system works fairly well, although anything
> which requires the loading of a module (autofs, lockd, or sound) doesn't
> work.  Recompiling the modules doesn't appear to change anything, except
> perhaps to generate more unusable modules.
>
> Has anyone ever run into this problem before, or been able to
> successfully install and test Linux on a system like mine? (AMD T-Bird
> 700MHz KA-7 board)  If so, how was it corrected, or which distribution
> did you use?
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> --
> Michael Hohensee



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: laptop rh6.2 and PPP
Date: 28 Sep 2000 13:27:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:41:13 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have loaded RH6.2 and upgraded to 2.2.16-3 kernel in a few m/cs. Now
>I got  a laptop from DIGITEK singapore with PIII 450, 96MB Ram and 6.3
>GB HDD. It has PCMCIA slot for modem  with Bright 56k PCMCIA modem.
>When I first started gnome dialer for Internet modem was recognized but
>didn't get connected. When I checked /var/log/messgaes, There I found
>no support for PPP in kernel. Further lsmod also gave no ppp. I have
>used the same  CDs used for installing in desktops. There is no line in
>messages for for PPP registering as I found in desktop. Why same kernel
>from same CDs didn't have PPP support in laptop whereas it gives in
>desktop? Any solutions.

Recompile the kernel, making sure to include PPP support?  If you don't
know how to recompile the kernel, there's a HOWTO on it at
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html .  You will need to install
the kernel source and bin86 RPMs; they're on your RedHat CD and you
should have installed the kernel source anyway.  BTW, the ppp module
should be located under /lib/modules/$KERNELVERSION/net/ppp.o , so make
sure you didn't overlook it.

>  I have selected lcd panels 1024x768 for
>monitor. Any better solutions.  Mine XGA TFT monitor.

??  Is the monitor capable of greater resolution than 1024x768?  "XGA"
is almost meaningless these days, so explain what the resolution and
color depth capabilities of your monitor are, and someone should be able
to help you.  It is possible to get even "nonstandard" modes like
1400x1050 to work under X; it just takes a bit of work.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com     /   condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/           ==Henry Spencer

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: searching for old x game
Date: 28 Sep 2000 13:27:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 27 Sep 2000 03:27:02 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>not really a linux specific question, but it does fit in the misc
>category.  i was wondering if anyone out there could jog my memory.  i
>remember playing a game in x in which one assumed the character of a
>monster godzilla, some robot, a poison gas cloud, etc. and romped
>around trying to smash up a town.  what was that game?  and is it
>still available somewhere?

I don't know for sure, but the version I played on an Apple //c was
called "Crush, Crumble, and Chomp".  I'd look it up but I'm offline
atm... http://google.com/ may prove useful, or http://freshmeat.net
while searching for "monster" could help....

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com     /   condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/           ==Henry Spencer

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:18:34 +0200
From: ferdinand.cornelissen
Subject: HELP!! simple device driver for mapping piece of /dev/mem to user space

Hi all,

I am working with a PCI board which has onboard memory. The card does
not have a device driver, so the only way I can access the card's
memory is by openening /dev/mem en mmaping the right memory block into
user space memory. However, this is only possible when running as
root. I want to be able to access the boards memory as an ordinary
user by writing a simple kernel-space device driver which maps the
correct memory from /dev/mem to memory in user space.

Can anyone help me out by giving me pointers to usefull example code,
documents or whatever useful information?

Thanks in advance.

Ferdinand.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: rpm confusion
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:29:22 +0200

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:07:38 +0200, Peter Buzanits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> # rpm -i packetname.rpm
> package packetname is already installed
> 
> # rpm -e packetname.rpm
> error: package packetname is not installed
> 
> # rpm -V packetname.rpm
> package packetname is not installed
> 
> # rpm --version
> RPM version 3.0.3
> 
> 
> Any ideas what's wrong?

when removing an rpm with the '-e' option, only use its name, without .rpm,
thus:

rpm -i packetname.rpm

rpm -e packetname

for upgrading, use: rpm -Uvh packetname.rpm

HTH!

Martin

> It failed to install the first time, but that should not yield to this behavior...
> 
> Thanks,
> Peter


-- 
Linux Gebruikers Handleiding v1.2 : http://2mypage.cjb.net
Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.17  Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
3:20pm up 6:08, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!

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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ATI Xpert (Rage 128, AGP) - RedHat 7
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:43:18 GMT

I just installed RedHat 7...  Much to my surprise my ATI Xpert (Rage 128,
AGP) would not work properly.  RedHat detected the card, but when I went to
test it, it failed every time, under every resolution.  Is this a problem
with XFree86 4.01, which is used by RedHat 7?  If so, is there any way to
fix this?  By the way, also RedHat could not start up it's graphical
installer on my system, so it defulted to the old menu based one...

Any ideas?


Thanks for any help!  =)

- Brian -

(P.S. please send copies of responses to my email as well as the newsgroup.
Thanks.    [EMAIL PROTECTED] )



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: dmesg?
Date: 28 Sep 2000 13:57:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:01:20 +0800, Antony Mak wrote:
>Linux version 2.2.10 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #7 Tue
>Jul 20 17:19:38 MEST 1999
>Warning only 960MB will be used.
>Detected 551262445 Hz processor.
>Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
>Calibrating delay loop... 550.50 BogoMIPS
>Memory: 971456k/983040k available ........
>Can anyone tell me what is that mean " Warning only 960MB will be used." ?

Only 960M of the N megabytes in your machine are actually being used.
If you have more memory than that, there's an option in the kernel for
"Maximum amount of RAM".  It's usually set to 1G, but you can set it to
2G or 4G.  This option is there because supporting very large amounts of
memory involves doing tricks with the address space on 32-bit machines,
and because few people have that much RAM.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com     /   condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/           ==Henry Spencer

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From: MIchael Erskine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: BIND ACL Workarounds (was: Re: been hacked...have a question)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:06:49 -0400

NAVARRO LOPEZ wrote:
> =

> Hi MIchael:
> =

> As you yourself say, take this with a huge lump of salt:
> =

> MIchael Erskine wrote:

> > I think the trick to understanding ACL's is to ensure you understand =
the
> > difference between a query and a zone transfer.  I am VERY sketchy on=

> > this
> > I could be completely out of the ball park on all of this.
> >
> =

> Yeah, but leaving appart all FUD, why do you need to be so sketchy?

Because I don't know what I am talking about.

> =

> > >
> > > I did read an interesting paper from Craig Rowland of psionic (of
> > > PortSentry HostSentry LogCheck  fame) and he describes in reasonabl=
e
> > > detail the steps to put named in a chrooted hole.
> >
> > That was interesting, wasn't that the paper where the author spoke to=

> > dual-homing and chrooting bind?
> >
> =

> Using static libraries it is not such a difficult thing, but althouch
> chrooting 'named' seems reasonable I feel comfortable enough most of th=
e
> times just running it as a non-privileged user.
> =


I do that as well.  That was a patch that developed when the last
buffer overflow exploit came about.


> >
> > One that I wanted to do was to chroot init from a running system.  I
> > thought one might be able to get a system up and running with network=
ing
> > turned off and then chroot a second init with networking running.  Th=
at
> > would make a "box in a box".  I have NO IDEA if this is feasible but =
it
> > would be one heck of a tool for building honeypots.  I seem to have r=
ead
> > something about someone doing that long ago to study a cracker.... bu=
t
> > memory sometimes fails.
> >
> =

> To my knowledge, building a honeypot or virtual OS support (ala wmware)=

> are the only reasonable needs to build a complete chrooted environment:=

> it can be done, but has no other virtues: you build a chrooted
> environment either to protect external services or external data.  If
> the whole stuff is to be in the same jail, once serviceX is compromised=
,
> all the other services and/or data within the same jail will be
> compromised too, and in this case it will mean all the useful services
> and data on the whole box.  Again, the best you can do is use my
> suggested 'easy chrooting environment' (Hey! I can even call it "The EC=
E
> Strategy-TM" ;^D ): each critical service/bunch of data on its own box.=


:)  Ok, and admittedly I am way out of my league on this issue.  I will
defer to your expertise.  Still It seems to me that a chrooted
environment
would be a nice way to set up a honey pot.  The purpose of the honey pot
being to use as a method (not of studying) but of tracking down cracker
activity.  Probably completely unnecessary, just a thought.


> =

> --
> SALUD,
> Jes=FAs
> ***
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ***


SALUD, CUIDADO.
Miguel

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