Linux-Misc Digest #889, Volume #18 Wed, 3 Feb 99 22:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Emacs problems (Frans Gumpu Slothouber)
cp/mcopy with verify? (Erwin Waterlander)
Re: Linux driver - legal issue (Ross Vandegrift)
Re: HElp, i can't compile (Martin Klarner)
Linux driver - legal issue (Dr. Henrik Seidel)
LPD responds: unable to get official name for local machine??? ("J. S. Jensen")
Re: How to make it run faster? ("J. S. Jensen")
Re: /proc dirs recursing indefinately (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Linux Database Question (Tom Fawcett)
Re: Locking up Linux (Matthias Warkus)
Re: No luck with 2.2.x kernel on RH 5.2! (Ray Willis)
Re: Repartition Hard Drive (Bob Deep)
Re: Anybody using TV-Out video? (Nice N Evil)
Re: loading up the sound driver module (Xiaoyong Wu)
Re: sendmail (Staffan Ulfberg)
Re: No luck with 2.2.x kernel on RH 5.2! ("Greg Waugh")
Re: Porting (Ben Russo)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Re: > 64MB RAM ("Steve D. Perkins")
Re: Suggestions for new Linux Fortran compiler (Ethan A Merritt)
Re: please reply to this message!
Linux Training ("ITTE")
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From: Frans Gumpu Slothouber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Emacs problems
Date: 3 Feb 1999 21:28:51 GMT
Matt Caswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi
: I'm running RH 5.2 with KDE. It's a fresh install, and I haven't done
: anything wierd as far as I know!
: My problem is with emacs. When I fire it up under X it doesn't display
: properly. The text starts *underneath* the scroll bar on the left hand
[snip]
: I can't think what the problem could be. I've tried playing around with
: some of the settings in my .Xdefaults, but I don't know what to change.
: Any suggestions?
What kind of font do you use? A proportional or a non-proportional?
If you use proportional it might be that emacs has a problem with
that.
If so, add
emacs*font: fixed
to your .Xdefaults.
Have fun,
Frans
--
______________________________________________________________________
/Frans Gumpu Slothouber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
\___/\ GalaxyNG Game Master. http://gumpu.student.utwente.nl/~galaxyng
/ \/
Implementation: The fruitless struggle by the talented and underpaid to
fulfill promises made by the rich and ignorant.
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From: Erwin Waterlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cp/mcopy with verify?
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:30:16 +0100
Hi,
I never trust diskettes.
When I copy files to a diskette
under DOS I always use the 'copy' command with /v
option (verify), so I am pretty sure that the
files are copied correctly to the diskette.
It's not 100% save, but a lot better than
without the /v option.
How do I do this under Linux?
--
Erwin Waterlander
Jongemastate 125
5655 HS Eindhoven
The Netherlands
www: http://www.xs4all.nl/~waterlan/
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From: Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux driver - legal issue
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:22:48 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have a legal problem;
>
> I wrote a Linux kernel driver for the Typhoon radio card
>
> http://194.18.155.92/idc/prod2.idc?nr=50753&lang=e
Congratulations!
> Since I had no technical documentation, I used DOSemu to record the
> ports (and transmitted values) used by the software that came with
> the card. I sent an email to the product management of the card
> manufacturer, but I did not get any response.
>
> My question is now: Is it illegal to release the kernel driver without
> an explicit permission of the manufacturer?
You'll have to read the license. If it says something about you not
being able to reverse engineer then hardware (explicitly the hardware;
see below), then you should probably research this more. I would,
however, find it hard to believe that they would try and sue you for
writing an OpenSource driver.
(anyone who knows otherwise...)
> BTW, I am a German citizen and I live in Germany.
In this case, you are pretty much free from software infringement: I
believe that the German government does not allow software operations to
be patented. Algorithms, either. (once again, I'm not an expert, if
anyone knows otherwise, please correct me!!!)
Hmmm, the more I think about this the more I wonder; plenty of drivers
have been written without recieving specific technical specs from
manufacturers. The new SGI VisualWorkstations and many of the
filesystems come to mind immediately. I'd still research this more, and
possibly give the company a call, asking them directly.
--
Ross Vandegrift | Eric J. Fenderson
A novice was trying to fix a broken Lisp machine by turning the power
off and on. Knight, seeing what the student was doing spoke sternly:
"You can not fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no
understanding of what is going wrong." Knight turned the machine off
and on. The machine worked.
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From: Martin Klarner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: HElp, i can't compile
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:43:47 +0100
Hi Jarvis,
why don't you just set the return type of "main" to "int":
#include <stdio.h>
int main(void)
{
printf("Hello world\n");
return 0;
}
Jarvis wrote:
> #include <stdio.h>
> void main(void)
> {
> printf("Hello world\n");
> }
>
> I get the same error when i try to compile this
>
> Ben Russo wrote:
>
> > Jarvis wrote:
> >
> > > I am using slackware 3.0 and i can't seem to compile with cc or gcc
> > > i get the following error with a simple c program
> > >
> > > test.c: In function `main':
> > > test.c:4: warning: return type of `main' is not `int'
> > >
> > > Anyone can help?
> > > thanks
> >
MK
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr. Henrik Seidel)
Subject: Linux driver - legal issue
Date: 3 Feb 1999 15:56:00 GMT
Hi,
I have a legal problem;
I wrote a Linux kernel driver for the Typhoon radio card
http://194.18.155.92/idc/prod2.idc?nr=50753&lang=e
Since I had no technical documentation, I used DOSemu to record the
ports (and transmitted values) used by the software that came with
the card. I sent an email to the product management of the card
manufacturer, but I did not get any response.
My question is now: Is it illegal to release the kernel driver without
an explicit permission of the manufacturer?
BTW, I am a German citizen and I live in Germany.
I'd be grateful about any information on this issue.
With kind regards
--- Henrik
--
Dr. Henrik Seidel, http://www.mpimg-berlin-dahlem.mpg.de/~seidel/
Max Planck Institute for Molecular Genetics
14195 Berlin, GERMANY, Ihnestrasse 73
tel: ++49-30-8413-1613 fax: ++49-30-8413-1384
see my home page for my public PGP key
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From: "J. S. Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LPD responds: unable to get official name for local machine???
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:54:51 -0700
LPD resonds on all queue queries and print job submits with:
Warning: unable to get official name for local machine <machinename>
and then gives me the name of of my local machine. Now everything is
correctly set up in /etc/hosts, and it's a private (fake) network
172.17.*.* LPD has been working for years, then with the addition of
NFS in the kernel, LPD responds with the aforemention error.
Thoughts?
--
J. S. Jensen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Paramin.COM
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From: "J. S. Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: How to make it run faster?
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:59:27 -0700
mcryptic wrote:
> If you do you can cluster multiable computer together so its like having a
> 120mHz computer(or more)if you have two clustered.
How could you possibly increase the bandwidth of the video card by clustering?
One does /not/ achieve an aggregated clock rate by adding another machine.
> I took 4 486 and clustered them for a combined mHz of about 215mHz,
??? I don't want to sound so incredibly insensitive, but could you please
explain how you measure aggregate clock rates? Do you run parallel libraries,
job/process distribution kernels?
--
J. S. Jensen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Paramin.COM
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: /proc dirs recursing indefinately
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:53:54 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Wed, 03 Feb 1999 07:15:08 GMT...
..and johann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has any body seen recursive copies of the /proc directory structure
> digging down into itself in RH 5.2??? i was doing a find on a 2.4 GB
> disk that didn't come back for over 1/2 hour. saw that there were over
> 30 copies of /proc and some other directories nested into itself.
> copied files had 0 length. hmmm....???
Was it by any chance a find that followed symbolic links? Probably it
hit the link deep in /proc that linked to its own working directory...
back to the directory where the link was!
D'oh. Solution: Prune /proc when doing a find -follow.
mawa
--
I refuse to consign the whole male sex to the nursery. I insist on
believing that some men are my equals.
-- Brigid Brophy
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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Database Question
Date: 03 Feb 1999 11:08:20 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Quinn) writes:
> I'm going to be implementing a database server using an Intel box running
> Linux, with PosgresSQL (sp?) as the database software.
>
> My understanding is that Linux does not (currently) implement raw disk
> partitions. This is probably a stupid question, but, given this, is there
> any way to circumvent the filesystem when implementing a database in Linux?
> In particular, I want to avoid the filesystem I/O buffering in order to
> guarantee write consistancy in case of a system crash.
I'm not quite clear on what you mean by "circumventing the filesystem", but
it sounds like you're asking for sync-on-write, whereby changes are
immediately written rather than cached. On an ext2 (ie, standard Linux)
filesystem you can set the S flag for individual files to enable this. At
least, that's what the chattr manpage says. Make sure it's supported in
the kernel code -- some of the ext2 features aren't.
I'm not sure this will guarantee database consistency in the event of an OS
crash, though.
Regards,
-Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Locking up Linux
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:59:31 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:37:56 -0600...
..and [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> while [ 1 ]
> do
> xxx &
> done
By no means new.
yes sh | sh is funnier.
And BTW, you can prevent shell bombs (so they are called) from locking
up your system by setting a limit on processes.
mawa
--
Actually, the fun thing about playing the piano is that you can walk
around in town with a Henle Urtext partition, showing off, and feeling
like a *musician*.
-- mawa
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From: Ray Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.dev.kernel,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: No luck with 2.2.x kernel on RH 5.2!
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:38:38 -0600
ok, have you compiled the kernel in this order?
make menuconfig
<configure the kernel>
make dep
make clean
make install
make modules
make modules_install
then edit /etc/lilo.conf
and add the kernel vmlinuz for a boot image.
do not remove the lilo.conf lines that you are currently booting
then do a lilo
that should solve a few problems. :)
later,
RayW
Greg Waugh wrote:
> I'm trying to upgrade my 1 month old RH 5.2 system to 2.2.1... and I'm
> having no luck! Pretty simple box, P166, 2940U SCSI, 64MB SDRAM, 3Com
> 3C509B NIC. Anyway, nothing seems to work right. I've upgraded net-tools,
> modutils, ipchains, etc. And nothing. I get errors about modules cannot be
> located, but most of them were things I linked right into the kernel!
> Anyway, nothing starts because the network is so funky. I'm using IP
> aliasing and it gives me errors about aliasing not supported in the kernel
> even though I compiled it in (not as a module). Also get errors that the
> module st cannot be loaded (even though I compiled it into the kernel).
> Anyway, I can't even boot the kernel to figure out what's going on since all
> the services hang...
>
> Feb 3 20:33:36 bert kernel: Cannot find map file.
> Feb 3 20:33:36 bert kernel: Error seeking in /dev/kmem
> Feb 3 20:33:36 bert kernel: Error adding kernel module table entry.
>
> I get this error in the boot logs, but I know I've put the System.map file
> in the correct place... /boot/System.map... right? I've never build a
> kernel under RH before... I've build a million kernels under other dists,
> and never once had a problem. (I just build 2.2.1 on my Slackware 95
> machine that's approaching 4 years old... no problems at all).
>
> Any help with RH kernel building would be very appreciated! Thanks!
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Greg Waugh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Bob Deep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Repartition Hard Drive
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:34:14 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I am running Redhat 5.2 with the 2.0.36 kernel. I would like to increase
> the size of my /var partition and decrease the size of m /home partition.
> How would I go about doing this? Can I use that Disk Druid application to
> do it? And if so, how do I use it if I am not planning on re-installing
> or upgrading the software?
Without doing a complete backup and restore, your only option is
PartitionMagic from Power Quest...
I've heard that it can resize Linux partitions, but I've also heard that
it is not 100% reliable and can cause data loss, so you will end up
having to do the backup's anyway...(though you may not actualy need
them).
-= bob =-
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:40:44 -0600
From: Nice N Evil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anybody using TV-Out video?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
David L. Bilbey wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.x Alan W. Jurgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : anybody using tv-out cards in linux? perhaps running X or a 3dfx card
I'm gonna try that. Was waiting on my video card to get here..
I ordered a viper 550 agp .. it's got tv out. I doubt I'll ever really use
it aside from seeing how it is..
Mainly because I bought a DTV200 so I could watch Tv on my monitor.. ;)
Soon as I wire it up, I'll let you know..
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From: Xiaoyong Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.sound,linux.redhat.list,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: loading up the sound driver module
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:45:10 -0500
Try this out,
modprobe -a sound
you can use
lsmod
to see all the modules.
and
modprobe -r
to remove modules.
Xiaoyong
Cher-Wah Tan wrote:
> hi!
>
> any idea how i could load up the sound driver under linux. i believe my
> kernel is being compiled with sound driver as a loadable module (comes
> with redhat 5.2).
>
> can anyone gives me the command to load it up?
> thanks a bunch!
>
> -w
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From: Staffan Ulfberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.sendmail,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: sendmail
Date: 03 Feb 1999 22:28:55 +0100
Don Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 1. I can't get the sender's address to appear as just the domain.
> It always includes the name of the machine as well. The other
> machines on the net get masqueraded thru our mailhost correctly,
> but, the sender's address appears as mailhost.domain.org instead of
> just domain.org.
So you set up masquerading, then. You could use
MASQUERADE_AS(`domain.org')
to change the masquerade name. You could also have domain.org be the
canonical name of the mail server, and also, make sure that domain.org
has at least one of an MX or an A record.
> 2. I can't receive mail. I don't even get errors bounced to
> /var/log/messages. The server won't even route mail on the internal
> network.
Maybe you have errors logged to someplace else, like /var/log/maillog?
Do the messages bounce back to the sender? In that case, containing
what error message? BTW, how is mail supposed to be routed on the
internal network? Since 1) above, the server obviously listens to
connections. You need to tell us more about this one.
Staffan
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From: "Greg Waugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.dev.kernel,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: No luck with 2.2.x kernel on RH 5.2!
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:55:48 -0500
Done it all... in exactly that order. This is the only other error I get on
boot.
Feb 3 21:45:24 bert kernel: Error seeking in /dev/kmem
Feb 3 21:45:24 bert kernel: Error adding kernel module table entry.
The network claims it's there, but I can't ping anything. Modules that I've
compiled into the kernel cannot be found as if they were modules that were
deleted. I had to disable all services (sendmail, named, httpd) just to get
it to boot cause they cause the system to hang. I get the same error with
the sound driver and midi modules (cannot load module midi) even though they
aren't modules... they're compiled into the kernel!
I'm at a loss...
Ray Willis wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>ok, have you compiled the kernel in this order?
>
>make menuconfig
><configure the kernel>
>make dep
>make clean
>make install
>make modules
>make modules_install
>then edit /etc/lilo.conf
>and add the kernel vmlinuz for a boot image.
>do not remove the lilo.conf lines that you are currently booting
>then do a lilo
>that should solve a few problems. :)
>
>later,
>
>RayW
>
>Greg Waugh wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to upgrade my 1 month old RH 5.2 system to 2.2.1... and I'm
>> having no luck! Pretty simple box, P166, 2940U SCSI, 64MB SDRAM, 3Com
>> 3C509B NIC. Anyway, nothing seems to work right. I've upgraded
net-tools,
>> modutils, ipchains, etc. And nothing. I get errors about modules cannot
be
>> located, but most of them were things I linked right into the kernel!
>> Anyway, nothing starts because the network is so funky. I'm using IP
>> aliasing and it gives me errors about aliasing not supported in the
kernel
>> even though I compiled it in (not as a module). Also get errors that the
>> module st cannot be loaded (even though I compiled it into the kernel).
>> Anyway, I can't even boot the kernel to figure out what's going on since
all
>> the services hang...
>>
>> Feb 3 20:33:36 bert kernel: Cannot find map file.
>> Feb 3 20:33:36 bert kernel: Error seeking in /dev/kmem
>> Feb 3 20:33:36 bert kernel: Error adding kernel module table entry.
>>
>> I get this error in the boot logs, but I know I've put the System.map
file
>> in the correct place... /boot/System.map... right? I've never build a
>> kernel under RH before... I've build a million kernels under other dists,
>> and never once had a problem. (I just build 2.2.1 on my Slackware 95
>> machine that's approaching 4 years old... no problems at all).
>>
>> Any help with RH kernel building would be very appreciated! Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> ------------------------------------------
>>
>> Greg Waugh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Porting
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:43:12 -0500
Count Zer0 Interrupt wrote:
> Can someone out there tell me what porting is and how it is done?
>
> Thanks
> EwOk
Porting usually means taking a piece of software from one system to
another.
This is done in different ways depending on the differences between the
systems
and it also depends on the particular details of the software.
For example if I write a DOS BAT file and I want to port it to a Linux
box
I would either install dosemu (DOS emulator) on the linux box and then
run the BAT file under dosemu. Or I would figure out the functionality
of
the BAT program (what it does) and rewrite the program in a scripting or
compiled programming language that is native to Linux.
If you write your programs in JAVA then (theoretically) you don't need
to worry
about porting them.
Programs written in C are not too hard to port if they don't use much
I/O functions.
Programs written in proprietary languages like FoxPro or MSVisualBasic
are basically
impossible to "port" you just have to rewrite them in a native language
on another
system.
-Ben.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 3 Feb 1999 23:22:38 GMT
On 29 Jan 1999 15:10:40 GMT, Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:13:18 -0600, pdohert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Gary wrote:
>>> Does anyone post Linux questions anymore or is this an International
>>> pissing contest ?? "My countries bigger than yours" ??
>>
>>This all started when several people on here made disparaging remarks
>>regarding the citizenry of the USA. I merely responded with a defense
>>against this attack. If you don't like the direction of the thread move
>>on...
>
>
>
>We can out BOMB any other country in the world. Any arguments?
Well, there was this little problem with a ship and an operating system.... :-)
----
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- and NT is *how* reliable again?
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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: > 64MB RAM
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 02:40:16 +0000
Does anyone else find it a bit embarrasing that KDE runs at "286
speed" with "only" 64MB of RAM? I don't mean to start a flame-war or
anything... but Windows with Internet Explorer sails along with HALF
that amount of RAM!
I'm aware of the "increased stability, don't have to reboot every
time you change something" advantages... but whatever happened to the
"lean and fast" selling point? I remember a couple of years ago when I
used to connect to the internet from the command line (pppd, chat,
etc...) and browse with lynx... I was awestruck at how much faster
things came down than they did on my Windows box. However, after
installing KDE... things crawl around at the same speed as Windows (on a
good day!).
I'm all for the advancement of user-friendly interfaces and so
forth, this is essential to Linux ever making inroads into the desktop
market. However, is anyone else a little worried about how GUI's are
showing signs of suffering from the same inefficiency and bloating that
the Windows world endures?
128MB of RAM is nice if you have it... but man, it should be a
REQUIREMENT for a machine to be usable! <smile>
Steve
Kaustav Bhattacharya wrote:
> How do I tell Linux (Redhat5.2) that I have 128MB RAM? At the moment
> when I top, it only recognises 64MB RAM. No wonder loading KDE and
> Netscape 4.5 totally mashes up the machine to 286 speeds!
>
> Kozzey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ethan A Merritt)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.fortran
Subject: Re: Suggestions for new Linux Fortran compiler
Date: 3 Feb 1999 22:06:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank T. Sronce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Well, I'm administering a fairly new Redhat Linux 5.2 machine and it
>looks like we need to get a commercial Fortran compiler for it. I've
>been using g77/fort77 for most things, but I need to port over code that
>was designed for the Sun F77 compiler, which implements a superset of
>F77 Fortran. The code won't compile on our Linux box, apparently
>because of those additional features (like the Format (q) statment, and
>allowing Implicit None to appear in the middle of declarations).
Check out http://studbolt.physast.uga.edu/templon/fortran.html
for much good stuff on Fortran alternatives, including a table of
supported extensions.
My own experience is that g77 does a poor job of dealing with ported
code. fort77/f2c does a somewhat better job, but the code produced is
not very fast compared to a real Fortran compiler. The consensus
among people I've talked to seems to be that the Portland group
compiler is very good, and produces code that runs up to a factor of
two faster than fort77/f2c/gcc manages from the same source.
The DEC (now Compaq) Fortran compiler is even better (and yes I
mean for pentium as well as alpha), but I'm not certain whether there's
an official linux version available yet?
Ethan A Merritt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: please reply to this message!
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:28:07 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suggest that you try asking a x-window related question on a networking
newsgroup. I'm sure you'll get floods of replies that will make your heart
dance :)
: Hi,
: this is just a test, because i never get an reply on my questions here...
: Please reply...
: --
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