Linux-Misc Digest #889, Volume #27 Fri, 18 May 01 05:13:02 EDT
Contents:
mc - where are you?
installing perl5.6 on potato (wroot)
Server vs Workstation ("Chakravarthy K Sannedhi")
How to read/write ext2 partition in Win2000? ("Czz")
Re: GPL question: including a GPL program in a software package (Jim Cochrane)
Re: kmail crash in kde-2.1.1 (Dave Uhring)
routing netmeeting calls ("kevin")
Re: driver for Olympus c3040 digital camera using usb? (Dances With Crows)
Re: problem .. need help ASAP!!! (Vilmos Soti)
Re: telnet on Mandrake. ("Peet Grobler")
bad links (wroot)
stateful netfilter on passive ftp ("Wong Ching Kuen Frederick")
Re: MIDI in Netscape??? ("Robert L")
reading Linux partitions from DOS/Windows? (Michal Szymanski)
Re: Has anyone ever seen *disappearing* symlinks? (Rob Komar)
Re: installing perl5.6 on potato ("������ �������")
Re: System.map and multiple kernel versions. ("Wayne Osborn")
Re: bad links ("Johan Vervloet")
Re: System.map and multiple kernel versions. (Juergen Pfann)
address of linx RAID mailing list? (Rainer Krienke)
Re: GPL question: including a GPL program in a software package (Todd Knarr)
Re: System.map and multiple kernel versions. ("Wayne Osborn")
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mc - where are you?
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 03:36:46 GMT
mc - where are you? If you read this, pse answer...
Where can I find a linux console mc binary that:
1. Doesn't change the serial port settings to uart: unknown
2. Doesn't whine about no samba
3. Doesn't whine about no gpm
4. Doesn't whine about hostname
5. Doesn't put dumb stuff in /var/log/{syslog,messages}
John
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From: wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.debian.user
Subject: installing perl5.6 on potato
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:21:45 -0400
Debianplanet had a question about installing perl5.6 on potato and the
dependency problems it causes. One of the answers was the following:
<QUOTE>
don't use dselect.
use apt-get and apt-cache!
to get a package from testing/unstable simply add a deb-src line from
testing or unstable to your /etc/apt/sources.list and do:
apt-get update
apt-get --build source
dpkg -i
</QUOTE>
Doesn't adding unstable/testing path to /etc/apt/sources.list result in
'upgrading' the whole system to unstable when doing apt-get update?
Thanks
Wroot
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From: "Chakravarthy K Sannedhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Server vs Workstation
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 22:41:41 -0500
I am wondering what difference it is going to make if I have chosen server
option instead of workstation option while installing the Red Hat 7.0 OS.
If I am having enough space on machine is it a better idea to install server
rather than the workstation?
I was been told that if I am going to choose the server option for
installation, it will remove all the non-linux partition existing on my
machine and if I want dual-booting capability on my machine I can't achieve
that if I go for server installation option. Is this is correct?
So going for custom installation is the only option if I want both the
server capabilities and dual-booting capabilities on my machine.
TIA
Chakravarthy K Sannedhi
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From: "Czz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to read/write ext2 partition in Win2000?
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:36:53 +0800
I have to mount ext2 partition in Win2000. I have found such software like
explore2fs-1.00-pre4 and ext2fsnt-0.4. But explore2fs-1.00-pre4 doesn't
support mounting as a drive. Ext2fsnt-0.4 cannot set the write owner(always
root). And Paragon Ext2fs Anywhere Demo doesn't support write.
Is there any other software that could mount ext2 partition as a drive, set
the write owner in Windows2000?
TIA.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Cochrane)
Subject: Re: GPL question: including a GPL program in a software package
Date: 17 May 2001 21:49:16 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Todd Knarr writes:
>> I think this is covered explicitly in the GPL: merely including a GPLed
>> program on the media with yours does not cause your program to be GPLed.
>
>Nothing can cause your program to be GPL'd except you GPL'ing it.
>
>> From the sounds of it, the Perl script is an external tool your program
>> can use and isn't incorporated in your program, and if you don't
>> incorporate it in your program then the GPL has no effect on your
>> program.
>
>Correct.
If I include the script in the same tar file or rpm file as my program and
make that file available for downloading, does the GPL still have no effect
on my program, or would that fit the definition of incorporating it into my
program?
Thanks.
--
Jim Cochrane
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: kmail crash in kde-2.1.1
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 22:57:33 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <QENM6.11659$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Unknown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> I went through blood, sweat and tears to get KDE-2.1.1.1 installed
>> finally crowned with qualified success last night.
>>
>> Doing so required 'force' and 'nodeps' all applied in the 'right' order,
>> none of it documented. ('--test' is your friend though!)
>>
>> One main reason for all of this was to get the newest version of kmail
>> going. Now I find it crashes immediately after starting!
>>
>> I'm thinking what I have to do is take the koffice rpm and 'force' and
>> 'nodeps' the darned thing into place.
>>
>> It feels risky.
>>
>> Any insight or advice. Is there _any_ installation documentation
>> anywhere on this wide virtual planet?
>>
>> Please help if you've got a clue to spare, thanks!
>>
>> Got some other problems with KDE-2 but they're rather minor aesthetic
>> issues (e.g, no pictures on some of the icons on the little panel bar on
>> the bottom of the screen - figure I've got to edit some config files in
>> the bye and bye).
>>
>> F.
>
> I solved the icon problem by upgrading koffice. I hoped this would help
> with the kmail problem but no luck.
>
> Kmail crashes with 'signal 11'. Any advice?
>
> F.
Try running xfs. I just blew away a RedHat-7.1 install and replaced it
with Mandrake-8.0 because RH's XFree86 and XF86_Mach64 would both crash
when running KDE without having xfs running in the background.
And xfs on both systems produces fonts which are all but unreadable on a
17" 1280x1024 display running 106dpi. Without xfs, the fonts are OK.
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From: "kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: routing netmeeting calls
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 04:12:58 GMT
Thanks all for your help with the ipmasqadm porfw help. This works great
for udp and tcp connections, but it doesnt seem to work for netmeeting,
which apparently runs on the h323 protocol.
Anyone ever set up these type of connections so that windows clients can get
direct connections to netmeeting clients on the outside?
Kevin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: driver for Olympus c3040 digital camera using usb?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 May 2001 04:32:29 GMT
On Thu, 17 May 2001 08:27:02 -0500, Leonard Evens staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>I am trying to use my Olympus C3040 digital camera with RedHat 7.1
>using the 2.4.2 kernel. When I plug in the usb cable and turn the
>camera on, the camera is recognized, but it says there is no associated
>driver, or words to that effect. The Lunux-usb web page has a listing
>for the camera which suggests it works with the 2.4.0 kernel if one
>mounts /dev/sdX1. I have a /dev/sdx1 but no sdX1. Nothing happens if
>I mount sdx1, but that is not suprising without a driver. RH7.1 also
>comes with a version of gphoto which some people claim can be used for
>this camera, but I can't see how to set it up for that. I assume I
>enter something other than a serial port in the settings, but I don't
>know what.
>
>I also have a Microtech ZiO smartmedia card reader and I also can't
>get it to work.
>
>Do I have to enable scsi support or something?
Assuming you already have USB support somewhere, the thing to do would
be to plug the device in, then "modprobe usb-storage" followed by
"modprobe sd_mod". Note that a stock RedHat 7.1 kernel will have sd_mod
compiled in by default, so you might just need to modprobe the
usb-storage thing. Then try "mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/somewhere"
and see what that gets you.
This is pretty standard procedure for a USB storage device, and a lot of
cameras and media card readers behave like USB storage devices. Those
that don't should probably be avoided. WRT gphoto, support for USB
things is in the CVS branch and not the stable version... try that if
you dare, but I'd just try to mount the camera as a storage device and
use "browse directory".
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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Subject: Re: problem .. need help ASAP!!!
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 05:21:28 GMT
"Chimpsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
If you need help, then have a meaningful subject.
Vilmos
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From: "Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za>
Subject: Re: telnet on Mandrake.
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:32:41 +0200
Try installing the telnet-server-x.xx.rpm.
I installed Mandrake myself last night, and it didn't install the server. If
you go through your logs (not /var/log/messages, the other ones) you will
notice it can't find the executable in.telnetd. Install the package, and
voila. Oh, if the package is installed already, it'll complain and exit. No
damage done.
atl.mediaone wrote in message ...
>I'm trying to setup telnet under inetd on Mandrake 7.2. I've got the port
>open (nmap shows the telnet port as being open) but when I try to connect I
>get the message 'Connection closed by foreign host.' I've got hosts.allow
>set to ALL for telnet hosts.deny empty for telnet. (This is an internal
>machine and after getting this to work in general I'll tighten up the
>allowed hosts to be only the local boxes - so don't gun for me on that
issue
>right now.) Am using inetd to kick off telnet when needed. Any hints?
>
>Rich
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
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From: wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.debian.user
Subject: bad links
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:41:03 -0400
Hi
How can I get ls and tree to highlight bad symbolic links with blinking
colors? (The way ls is set up on Redhat)
Wroot
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From: "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: stateful netfilter on passive ftp
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:02:33 +0800
could anyone show me how to do stateful netfilter on passive ftp for a
host?! thanks.
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From: "Robert L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MIDI in Netscape???
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 02:29:51 -0400
Just a shot in the dark. Is it possible to turn "playmidi" (if you are not
using it anyway) into a symlink pointing to timidity? Just a thought, don't
know if it would work.
Robert
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"William H. Pridgen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "B. L. Jilek" wrote:
>
> > Did you get the instrument files for Timidity. And configure the
timidity.cfg
> > file to point to them. It's been a while but I think my system
installed
> > Timidity but it had no instruments. It's a real big file so you should
remember.
> > Look at your config file and make sure it's set up right.
> >
> > Your intrument patches and maybe your timidity.cfg should be int
/usr/lib/timidity.
>
> Yes, I have the instrument files for Timidity. Following your
> suggestion, I edited timidity.cfg, and changed it to point to the
> correct directory, but I still get the playmidi error.
>
> --
> Bill Pridgen *** Sent with GNU/Linux
> --
> "Life is problem-solving and discovery." -- Karl Popper
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michal Szymanski)
Subject: reading Linux partitions from DOS/Windows?
Date: 18 May 2001 06:40:04 GMT
Hi,
Some years ago there was a suite of E2FS programs (E2LS, E2CP etc)
running under plain DOS and DOS-window-in-MSWindows. Quite useful
for dual-system machines when one has forgotten to copy a file
to the DOS partition while in Linux and now needs it badly in Windoze.
This package, however, stopped working after upgrading Linux (I'm not
aware at which upgrade - 4->5 or 5->6), IMHO due to some changes in
Linux' ext2 partition format.
Anybody out there knowing the solution (newer version of E2FS, another
utility)?
best regards, Michal.
--
Michal Szymanski ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Warsaw University Observatory, Warszawa, POLAND
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From: Rob Komar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Has anyone ever seen *disappearing* symlinks?
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 06:55:03 GMT
Christian Capito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Point is: since when do symlinks disappear and old directories reappear?
> This is NOT supposed to happen. I'm in real luck that it's not happening on
> our productive web server...
This could happen if a filesystem was mounted over top of an existing
filesystem. For example, if you mounted a filesystem at /usr/share,
everything that used to be under /usr/share would become invisible.
If you unmounted the new filesystem at /usr/share, the old files
would reappear again. So, maybe somebody mounted something like a
backup copy of the filesystem over top of the original one, your
symlinks were added to the new system, and disappeared when it was
unmounted again.
Cheers,
Rob Komar
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From: "������ �������" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: installing perl5.6 on potato
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:10:52 +0400
Don't do 'apt-get upgrade'.
After installing perl source from testing/unstable change
source.list back and do 'apt-get update'
wroot wrote:
>
> Debianplanet had a question about installing perl5.6 on potato and the
> dependency problems it causes. One of the answers was the following:
>
> <QUOTE>
> don't use dselect.
> use apt-get and apt-cache!
> to get a package from testing/unstable simply add a deb-src line from
> testing or unstable to your /etc/apt/sources.list and do:
>
> apt-get update
> apt-get --build source
> dpkg -i
> </QUOTE>
>
> Doesn't adding unstable/testing path to /etc/apt/sources.list result in
> 'upgrading' the whole system to unstable when doing apt-get update?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
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From: "Wayne Osborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: System.map and multiple kernel versions.
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:59:58 +0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mike Castle"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wayne Osborn
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mike Castle"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I keep mine in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/System.map
>>
>>My whole confusion is this: I can theoretically have 2.2.16 and 2.4.4
>>kernels in /boot and with lilo select either at boot time. What do I do
>>with the System.map files for both these kernels?
>
> Please reread my post for content.
>
> Perhaps try the command "uname -r" and see what the output is.
>
> The you will realize that you would have:
>
> /lib/modules/2.2.16/System.map
> and
> /lib/modules/2.4.4/System.map
>
> Can you guess which one is where?
>
> mrc
Ok, I am not stupid!
I have 4 x compiles of the same kernel version 2.2.16 (patched/unpatched
etc). There are no System.map files in /lib/modules/ra-de-ra.
I DO have numerous System.map-'KernelVerion' in /boot. My question is
regarding the standard handling of map's situated in /boot.
Thanks Mike.
--
Wayne A. Osborn, SCADA Engineer.[dnar AT iinet DOT net DOT au]
Registered Linux User #212818. [2.2.16-22-Win4Lin-686] [i686]
3:50pm up 3 days, 3:46, 4 users, load average: 4.21, 4.20, 4.14
...We are not a clone.
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From: "Johan Vervloet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bad links
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:10:24 +0200
In article <9e2d0h$gms$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "wroot"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> How can I get ls and tree to highlight bad symbolic links with blinking
> colors? (The way ls is set up on Redhat)
Put this line somewhere in a profile :
alias ls='ls --color'
>
> Wroot
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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: System.map and multiple kernel versions.
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:39:38 +0200
Wayne Osborn wrote:
>
> Just curious as to the requirement for /boot/system.map when you have
> multiple kernel versions setup in lilo.
> (...)
In /usr/src/linux/Makefile :
# INSTALL_PATH specifies where to place the updated kernel and system
map
# images. Uncomment if you want to place them anywhere other than root.
#INSTALL_PATH=/boot
OK, this was a Makefile for 2.0.36, but this hasn't changed in 2.2.
Don't have a 2.4 source tree handy at the moment, but why should that
have changed here ?
As I understand it, this is not only the location to place kernel
and System.map by "make (b)zlilo", as in my experience you may well
move the kernel file proper, but _not_ System.map - thus it _is_
stored in the kernel image.
In my example, / is used as the variable is commented out.
Thus, simply specify different settings for this variable, perhaps -
as already suggested - /lib/modules/`uname -r`.
Maybe don't use the command substitution, but the actual version
string - you talk about different kernel versions anyway.
Now your different System.maps will be found in the specified
places each.
HTH
Juergen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rainer Krienke)
Subject: address of linx RAID mailing list?
Date: 18 May 2001 08:52:26 GMT
does anyone know the current address for the linux raid mailing list. I tried
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (for subscription) but all I get is a reply telling me
that this user is unknown.
Did the Mailinglist move somewhere else?
Thanks Rainer
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Universitaet Koblenz, http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~krienke
Rechenzentrum, Voice: +49 261 287 - 1312
Rheinau 1, 56075 Koblenz, Germany Fax: +49 261 287 - 1001312
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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GPL question: including a GPL program in a software package
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:57:10 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc <9e263s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jim Cochrane
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I include the script in the same tar file or rpm file as my program and
> make that file available for downloading, does the GPL still have no effect
> on my program, or would that fit the definition of incorporating it into my
> program?
It wouldn't technically be incorporating it in your program, no. But
it would be ambiguous. If you keep it in a seperate package from your
program, that makes the seperation clear. It can still be on the same
disk, but give it it's own directory or something for clarity.
--
Collin was right. Never give a virus a missile launcher.
-- Erk, Reality Check #8
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From: "Wayne Osborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: System.map and multiple kernel versions.
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 17:05:48 +0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Juergen Pfann"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wayne Osborn wrote:
>>
>> Just curious as to the requirement for /boot/system.map when you have
>> multiple kernel versions setup in lilo. (...)
>
> In /usr/src/linux/Makefile :
> # INSTALL_PATH specifies where to place the updated kernel and system
> map
> # images. Uncomment if you want to place them anywhere other than root.
> #INSTALL_PATH=/boot
>
> OK, this was a Makefile for 2.0.36, but this hasn't changed in 2.2.
> Don't have a 2.4 source tree handy at the moment, but why should that
> have changed here ?
> As I understand it, this is not only the location to place kernel and
> System.map by "make (b)zlilo", as in my experience you may well move the
> kernel file proper, but _not_ System.map - thus it _is_ stored in the
> kernel image.
> In my example, / is used as the variable is commented out. Thus, simply
> specify different settings for this variable, perhaps - as already
> suggested - /lib/modules/`uname -r`. Maybe don't use the command
> substitution, but the actual version string - you talk about different
> kernel versions anyway. Now your different System.maps will be found in
> the specified places each.
>
> HTH
>
> Juergen
Thanks Juergen.
My reason for posing this question was really just to get an
understanding of how the various System.map's were being created in my
/boot, as I have not touched, moved or linked any of them.
--
Wayne A. Osborn, SCADA Engineer.[dnar AT iinet DOT net DOT au]
Registered Linux User #212818. [2.2.16-22-Win4Lin-686] [i686]
5:00pm up 3 days, 4:56, 4 users, load average: 4.37, 4.23, 4.19
...Blinding speed can compensate for a lot of deficiencies.
-- David Nichols
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