Linux-Misc Digest #74, Volume #26 Wed, 18 Oct 00 18:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: moving swap partition (Attn gurus) (mike)
Re: Linux cdrecord DESPERATE!!! (mike)
Re: qmail says: "warning: trouble opening info/19/623733; will try again (Chris
J/#6)
Refreshing a new symbolic link to a library in /usr/lib (PB)
Re: StarOffice or Applixware (Todd Litwin)
Re: make using very less CPU/How do I speed up? (Tijmen Stam)
xforms' glcanvas in linux (Alan Zhong)
Homesite like editor for HTML/PHP/Python? (Sherman)
Dual boot, mixed IDE/SCSI, and disappearing files (Joshua Baker-LePain)
Java Servlets on Redhat 7.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (2:1)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Re: Need Sound Advice, please. (Martin McCormick)
P.I.M.s? ("Dennis J. Tuchler")
What device is LS120 drive??? (Bo Berglund)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Linux Backup (John Thompson)
RAID 1 Block Size 2k Setup ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Jerry L Kreps)
mkfs.ufs for linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
help to delete file(hosts.allow,hosts.deny ) (lckun)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Help with winmodem (rasteri)
startx crashes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Pine and Pop3? ("gSe7eN")
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: moving swap partition (Attn gurus)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 18:22:52 GMT
Hi Eric and All.
I assume that the swapon command has
to be executed each time the system boots. If that is true
where is the best file or official place to put the command.
Thanks
Mike
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux cdrecord DESPERATE!!!
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 18:31:11 GMT
Hi,
if you have a dual boot system with Windows and CD-Burning
software, I would try it to rule out hardware problems or put
the burner in a friends box and try it there.
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris J/#6)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: qmail says: "warning: trouble opening info/19/623733; will try again
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 Oct 2000 17:47:59 +0100
Niek van Suchtelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>For some reason, my maillog (/var/log/maillog) is overflowing with these
>messages, like this:
>
>Oct 17 20:11:49 localhost qmail: 971827909.215462 warning: trouble
>opening info/19/623733; will try again later
>Oct 17 20:11:49 localhost qmail: 971827909.215629 warning: trouble
>opening info/8/623745; will try again later
>Oct 17 20:11:49 localhost qmail: 971827909.215675 warning: trouble
>opening info/13/623750; will try again later
>
>Why could this be? When i look at the files in question, they do show up
>(they contain email addresses). They're located in
>/usr/local/plesk/qmail/queue/info/....
>
If someone tries to modify the queue manually when qmail is running, it
gets confused (it hold an in-memory index so to speak, and any tampering
within in can bugger it up). If this happens, stop & restart qmail so
it rereads the queue.
>And why would it work, if it tried again later? (i mean, if it doesn't
>work now, why would it work later?). I just also deleted the complete
>maillog, because it was already 25M big, and replaced it with an empty
>file. However, now qmail doesn't write to this new log file anymore...
>why not?? It just stays empty..
Because maillog is handled by syslog, not qmail. Send a HUP to the syslogd
daemon (kill -HUP <pid of syslogd>). It's syslog that keeps the file open
for writing. Syslog won't write to a new file unless you tell it to close
the old file and flush its buffers. That's what the kill -HUP will do.
Chris...
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From: PB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Refreshing a new symbolic link to a library in /usr/lib
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 14:39:04 -0400
Reply-To: pboin @ mindspring com
OK, let's see if I can explain this clearly:
Trying to install a binary .rpm, and I got a failed dependency on
libjpeg.so.6.
Fine, go to /usr/lib, and do a 'ls -al libjpeg.so*'.
There's a real binary there (libjpeg.so.62.0.0), and two symbolics
pointing to it. One is libjpeg.so, and one is libjpeg.so.62.
At this point, I figure I should be OK by creating a new third
symbolic pointing to the real binary and naming it libjpeg.so.6, which
is the dependency that the rpm complained about.
What do I need to do to re-catalog / re-index / re-whatever, so that
the system realizes that I've made the new symbolic link to the real
library?
--
PB
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comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: StarOffice or Applixware
Reply-To: toddlitwin+earthlink.net
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Todd Litwin)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 18:57:39 GMT
J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I don't
>like that SO is such a huge beast that takes over the
>whole desktop
I can't help with the "huge" part, but I have a way around the "captive
desktop" issue. ...Well, at least I *thought* I could.
When I first started with Star Office 5.1, it created a window that was as big
as the screen, hiding the window frame off-screen, but just letting me see the
various menus (file, edit, ...) at the top of the screen. There was nothing I
could grab to resize the window and make it smaller.
Eventually I found that there was a setting somewhere under the Start button
that allowed me to select having Star Office live in a normal X window, one
smaller than the screen. Now that I have upgraded to Star Office 5.2, things
have changed, and I can no longer find this setting. But the upgrade did, at
least, preserve my preference for the smaller window, and that's how it works
for me today.
I can't seem to find that old selection to tell you how to change this under
5.2. But I have noticed something that might give you a hint. Under the View
menu item, at the bottom, is a selection to choose Full Screen. Unfortunately,
if I choose that, it's even bigger than before, with no menu items showing. But
the menu item does say that Control-Shift-J is a short cut to get me there, and
I find that doing it again toggles me back out of it.
You might try Control-Shift-J and see if it gets you anywhere. You might also
try looking around all the various menus and settings and see if you can find
one that will shrink the system into a normal window. It certainly can work
that way. There must be some way to tell it to go there.
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From: Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: make using very less CPU/How do I speed up?
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:22:41 +0200
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> I suspect what is happening is that the
> typical compile is taking less time than
> the refresh interval of top (glibc source
> file tend to be small, one function per
> file in general). You'll get lots of processes
> which are not caught by top because they aren't
> running at any of instants at which top queries
> the kernel for process stats; so top knows
> nothing about them.
That's not true, it's just all low.
But with all your tips it got to 95 % (on pieces with a long compile, the
smaller pieces give too much HD overhead.) And a linux kernel wich used to
make in 1hours 20 minutes, is complet now in 40 minutes. (but it's
impossible to do anything else at the same time right now. Unless you
over-nice that one...)
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From: Alan Zhong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xforms' glcanvas in linux
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 19:10:07 -0000
hello, I got a problem using xforms's glcanvas in linux. the problem is
the linux version of xforms doesn't compile with GL (linux are using
Mesa's GL).
the documentation of xforms tell me to extract the object file of
libforms.so.0.89, then recompile it with "-lGL" as the linking.
I am kind of new to linux, some one tell me to use "ar .." to extract the
object file, I don't know how to start.
Would you please help me in detail? Thankx a lot.
>From Alan.
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From: Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Homesite like editor for HTML/PHP/Python?
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:12:36 -0700
I use Homesite/Cold fusion studio extensivly on win 2k, but am making
the move to Linux (debian 2.2).
Does anybody know of an editor like Homesite with good support for
HTML, PHP, Python, etc? As in color-coding, etc?
Many thanks for any help.
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dual boot, mixed IDE/SCSI, and disappearing files
Date: 18 Oct 2000 19:24:35 GMT
I've got a system that dual boots Win98 (/dev/sda1) and RH6.2 (/ is
/dev/sda2) off of /dev/sda. Since that disk is very small, and I had a
spare knocking about, I put a 20GB Seagate IDE drive in, with one big
logical partition formatted FAT32 (/dev/hda5). (There's actually a small,
unformatted primary partition at the beginning of the disk, which
Partition Magic auto-created when I made the logical).
Both sides see the disk and its full formatted capacity. Both sides can
read and write the disk. Seemingly. Files and folders created in Linux
appear in Windows. Files and folders created in Windows appear
there *during that session.* Upon rebooting into Linux or back into
Windows, however, the files no longer appear. *However*, 'df' and Windows
Explorer both report space (equal to the amount of created files) as being
used. They're just not visible.
Any ideas?
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Java Servlets on Redhat 7.0
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 20:01:45 GMT
Java Servlets on Redhat 7.0
Does anyone have it working
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 23:03:30 +0100
Brian Moore wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ....
> >
> >
> >TeX was never just a typesetting tool. It was designed to allow high
> >level, content orientated languages (it says so in the TeX Book).
> >
> >I haven't seen a word processor that gives the power and output quality
> >of TeX. They are still too orientated to letting the user, not the
> >program do the typesetting.
> >
> >There are very good content management facilities in LaTeX.
> >
> >-Ed
> >
> >
> >
>
> On the other hand, if you are using LaTeX, and for whatever reason
> need to make just a small change in the appearance of
> the document after the typesetting has occurred, it can be
> infuriating. After digging into Lamport to find the relevant
> part, it might tell you something like "you shouldn't want to
> do that."
If you change the document, you have to rerun latex (ie re-typeset it).
If I want to fore some low level changes, you could always refer to the
TeX book. It's free to download from the CTAN (comprehensive tex archive
network).
-Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 20:31:32 -0000
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:05:08 +1300, Gardiner Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>plus, the definition of an OS constantly changes as each company adds new features as
Most of the creeping featurism present amongst consumer OS
vendors has pretty much just been playing catchup with more
serious operating systems. For the most part, component
responsibilities haven't changed that much over time. What
has really changed is the marketing bulletpoints.
>standard to their OS, then after a few years these enhancements are accepted by other
>OS
>venders and incorperate those features into their OS.
[deletia]
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Subject: Re: Need Sound Advice, please.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin McCormick)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 20:53:07 GMT
In article <8skj0b$26h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>It is. Try one.
==============================
>
>The sound API is not all that well documented. I've found the
>source code for sound recording and playing programs to be the
>best reference - have a look at wavrec/wavplay, for example.
That's a great idea. I looked for wavplay-1.0.tar.gz
yesterday as it was recommended in the HOWTO and I have heard of
several people using it. There is an URL listing where one can get
it, but it seems to have disappeared from all the sunsite mirrors.
Does anyone know what happened to it? I am looking for a
command-line sound player that will at least play .wavs that comes
with source so I can play with it. It doesn't have to be wavplay, but
that seems to be the popular one.
Many thanks for the help. On the main metalab.unc site, it
gives that wonderful 404 error and says that wavplay-1.0.tar.gz is no
longer there. A mirror in the UK gives a similar error so I bet this
happened fairly recently.
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From: "Dennis J. Tuchler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: P.I.M.s?
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 20:39:59 GMT
Is there a good personal information manager program for Linux -- one
with a calendar which includes a pop-up reminder, a to-do list with a
reminder, perhaps an address book and so forth? Is there one that can
be used with a Palm Pilot?
dj tuchler
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund)
Subject: What device is LS120 drive???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 20:48:35 GMT
I have rebuilt my Linux box and replaced the non-working floppy with
an LS120 drive via IDE. On bootup Linux finds this device (I can see a
line flashing by with its name on).
My question now is:
How can I access the new high capacity floppydrive?
What device do i mount, or maybe I don't need to mount it?
I have absolutely no clue as to where I start looking...
And: is it possible to use the Start floppy in this device for
emergency boot? If so how?
Any advice greatly appreciated!
Bo Berglund
Software developer in Sweden
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: My public key is available at the following locations:
Idap://certserver.pgp.com
http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:09:51 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Hartmann Schaffer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on 17 Oct 2000 22:22:17 -0400
<8sj1gp$evt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>In article <8shiq2$3fc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ...
>>Like it or not, the standard is Office. Spreading lies and FUD does not help
>>Linux's cause. If you had said simply that "SO can open many standard office
>
>this statement coming from an ms junkie must be the usenet joke of the
>year
No, he's right; the standard *is* Office. Witness:
- a number of recruiting firms apparently require Word for resumes.
- over 80% of the desktops use Microsoft Windows, which is a prime
prerequisite for Office.
- Office is very convenient, as long as one doesn't stray from the
path. (Insert Tolkien reference here :-) )
- Point, click, drag. What else could any pointy-haired type
possibly want?
This doesn't mean Office is easy to use (one beef I have is that
I can't get at the raw mail headers), but it *looks* easy to use,
and to non-engineers, that's good enough.
(To which I say, "Feh". But then, I'm not a non-engineer. :-) )
Nor is Office a declared standard -- it would be unlikely that an
RFC would ever mention Office by name, although there are a few
that are, shall we say, less than serious about the standardization
process (e.g., RFC1882). But one might make a pretty good case
that it, or its components (Excel, Word, etc.) are defacto standards.
(To which I say, "Ugh".)
[snip]
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Backup
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 13:50:09 -0500
Chris Knapp wrote:
> Can anyone reccomend a tape or other mass storage system that will work well
> under Linux? I don't want to use a CDR or anything like that, but a cheap,
> 1-10GB tape unit is more what I'm looking for. Other than enterprise level
> stuff, do they even make anything for Linux?
>
> I want to use this on my local network here at home (goofy sounding, huh?),
> and I have a lot of critical stuff I back up to my Linux box from my win2000
> machine.
I use an HP-Colorado IDE tape drive here. It works fine. I even
use it to back up my Win98 partition (no worries about the
Windows registry being in use when you back up...). And yes, it
does restore to both linux and Windows fine from linux.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RAID 1 Block Size 2k Setup
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:14:34 GMT
Hi,
I have been trying for three days to get my RAID
1 setup correct. I have lots of little files on
this server and need a 2048 k block size.
I run mkraid... Here is my raidtab:
raiddev /dev/md0
raid-level 1
nr-raid-disks 2
nr-spare-disks 0
chunk-size 4
persistent-superblock 1
device /dev/sdb1
raid-disk 0
device /dev/sdc1
raid-disk 1
And then I run the mke2fs command to set the
block size... Why am I getting this error?
[root@frog /sbin]# ./mke2fs -b 2048 /dev/md0
mke2fs 1.18, 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b,
95/08/09
/dev/md0: Invalid argument passed to ext2 library
while setting up superblock
Could someone please reach out a helping hand
here... I haven't a clue what's wrong with this
thing. Instructions would be greatly appreciated.
I also wouldn't mind knowing how to format this
drive with more inodes allocated, if anyone knows.
Thanks
C
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From: Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:36:16 -0500
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, mlw wrote:
>jazz wrote:
>>
>> I really need a powerful word processor with templates, styles, etc.
>>
>> What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
>>
>> Thanks ---
>> Jazz
>
>You can download Star Office. I used to use Applix, but I got their last
>version and it wasn't as good as their previous version. SO 5.2, OTOH is
>as good as MS office in that it doesn't crash like MS office, and it
>does not take down the OS like MS office.
>
>It has no problems reading MS office files, at least as far as I've
>seen.
I have it installed it on my Win98SE at work and loaded a 488 page Word95 doc
without any sweat. I love SO5.2!!
>
>--
>http://www.mohawksoft.com
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Subject: mkfs.ufs for linux
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:29:23 GMT
I would like to create a UFS floppy (SUN type)
from my linux system, but cannot find mkfs.ufs
I have enabled reading and writing to UFS in the
kernel (2.2.17) but without mkfs.ufs I am stuck.
Does anyone know where I can find this utility,
or another that will create UFS file systems?
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 19:28:38 +0900
From: lckun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: help to delete file(hosts.allow,hosts.deny )
Hi all,
I have problem to delete files hosts.allow hosts.deny in /etc.
I want to delete it, but always in vain, even though I am root.
These files look as floows;
hosts.allow root ftp 0 ...
hosts.deny root ftp 0 ....
I cannot chmod, chgrp, rm and so on.
I think the problem is that the files belong ftp-group.
Can anyone tell me how can i delete these files?
I don't know why I can not do it???
Regards
Lee
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 17:06:39 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Wed, 18 Oct 2000 15:48:54 +0000...
...and Harry Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Brian Langenberger wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harry Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > : If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
> >
> > : If all you have is a typesetting program, everything looks like a
> > : typesetting problem.
> >
> > And if all you have is a word processor, everything looks like a
> > page layout problem.
>
> Exactly - what you need is the right tool for the job! (Believe me, I
> know, as I was once asked to implement a workflow-like system using Word
> and VBA!)
>
> However, a word processor *should* focus on content, with facilities for
> outlining,
Editing is the business of the text editor or the front end, not of
LaTeX. Emacs, for example, does a great job at outlining.
> merging documents into complex documents, creating tables of
> contents and indexes etc.
Have you actually ever used LaTeX? TOCs, complex documents (e.g.
inclusions) and indices are where it really shines. Word's handling of
intra-document references and autogenerated TOCs and indices is
pathetic in comparison. And does Word have anything remotely
resembling references into external documents?
mawa
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From: rasteri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Help with winmodem
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:40:09 +0100
Interesting descovery - depmod says there are unresolved external symbols in
pctel.o - could this have something to do with it? insmod doesn't complain about
it. Has it just got something to do with differing module versions? I will
recompile the driver if this needs be. Does the driver actually need to
communicate with the modem to reply to the "at" commands? Surely if the modem is
a software based modem all the at replies are generated by the driver instead of
the modem? Or am I talking rubbish?
anyway please help you guys...
andrew
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: startx crashes
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:54:06 GMT
Greetings!
Weird, using Mandrake 7.0 on KDE. When I move files from folders
onto the desktop, X crashes. Not always but most of the time.
Sometimes it seems related to the permissions on the files but
I'm not sure of that.
Been playing in Linux off and on for a couple of years or more
but not enough to have an eye for this kind of problem.
Any tips?
F.
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From: "gSe7eN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pine and Pop3?
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:15:14 GMT
Yay, my first Linux NG post!
So, is it possible to use the great mail program PINE with a pop3 e-mail
account? If it is, could someone walk me through the process? Thanks!
gSe7eN.
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Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
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