Linux-Misc Digest #112, Volume #26 Sun, 22 Oct 00 15:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Does RoadRunner work in Linux? (Brady Bonnette)
Re: Problems with floppy ("bluster")
Re: ISP advice sought, lansing.mi.us (Robert Kiesling)
Re: Server crashing (Edvard Fagerholm)
Re: unresolved symbol (E Levac)
Re: Diabolical plot uncovered... (jeff)
Re: Controlling several boxes from one place (Gregory Spath)
Re: Stupid question about telnet? (Nick Brown)
Re: Linux firewall software question (Gregory Spath)
Re: ISP advice sought, lansing.mi.us (Dances With Crows)
Re: Help me choose the best fileserver OS for a Compaq proliant server. ("John C.
Hollemans")
Re: GPL questions? (Neil Cherry)
Re: Server crashing (Robert Heller)
Problems with linuxconf ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: screen shoot during LINUX installation ("Andrew Jones")
Re: Stupid question about telnet? ("bluster")
Re: crashed X on moving files (Gregory Spath)
bootmanager Grub installation (paul)
Re: Stupid question about telnet? ("bluster")
rpm or debian packaging? ("Database")
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From: Brady Bonnette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does RoadRunner work in Linux?
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 17:22:59 GMT
Roadrunner works great in linux (at least for northern Ohio). Im using RH
6.1, with an ip-masq'd sorta router (for two machines anyways).. I had to
set up the modules a little, but that wasnt any big deal. They threw a
3Com 509b card in mine (isa pnp), and as stated earlier by Steven, you have
to use dhcp. RR used to be login-controlled, but here in N. Ohio its just
dhcp (dunno about everywhere else). If your service requires a login,
there is a script out there that will do that for you automatically. If
you need it, lemme know and I will find it for you (unless your good with
the search engines : ) )
Good luck,
Brady Bonnette
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> If RoadRunner works in Linux, which dist. works best for it? (i.e. which
> one is EASIEST to set up?)
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: "bluster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with floppy
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 13:41:01 -0400
Filipe Bonjour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I'm having some serious trouble using my floppy disk under Red Hat 6.2.
> Anytime I try executing mount, mke2fs, mkbootdisk this is what I get:
>
> root 1 % mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy/
> mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
>
> root 2 % mke2fs /dev/fd0
> mke2fs 1.18, 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
> mke2fs: Device not configured while trying to determine filesystem size
>
> root 3 % mkbootdisk 2.2.14-5.0
> Insert a disk in /dev/fd0. Any information on the disk will be lost.
> Press <Enter> to continue or ^C to abort:
> mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
Look for floppy init errors in the log files, /var/log/dmesg and
/var/log/messages, messages.1, etc..., you can view them with the
"less" command, or for a quick look, at a bash prompt type:
[root@zephyr]# grep fd /var/log/dmesg
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
[root@zephyr]# grep fd messages*
messages.9:Jan 16 16:04:13 kernel: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
The output above is what it looks like with no init errors.
That should show if there are fd init problems anyway.
Bluster
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Subject: Re: ISP advice sought, lansing.mi.us
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 17:42:42 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt) writes:
> On 22 Oct 2000 02:53:09 GMT, Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >It appears as if I'm stuck without DSL/cablemodem access for at least 2
> >months, so I'd appreciate advice on a reasonable dial-up ISP in the
> >Lansing, MI, USA area.
> >
> >I was looking at http://voyager.net ; they seem to have something
> >reasonable going on. Buried in the Tech Support section of their page
> >are DNS numbers, confirmation that they use PAP for authentication,
> >and info on POP3 and SMTP access. Everything I can see from there
> >makes me think that their service would work just fine with Linux.
> >Heck, I would've signed up with them on Friday, but they don't take AmEx
> >and my Visa card is currently lost in the depths of bureaucracy.[0]
>
> I thought Voyager was acquired by (or merged with) Core.com. Check out
> http://www.core.com/ unlimited service (24hr at a time) under $10/mo, mail
> and news, works fine with Linux. I don't think they have shell access,
> but I just use it as my out of town ISP, since it is nationwide. I was up
> and running an hour after I signed up on a Sunday night. They have 4 pops
> in Lansing.
I know of at least three ISP's, local and national, that have POP's in
Lansing. All of them have a flat monthly fee for dial-up connections.
Not sure about DSL, though. So feel free to contact me _off-list_ if
you have any specific questions.
--
Robert Kiesling
Linux FAQ Maintainer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mainmatter.com/linux-faq/toc.html http://www.mainmatter.com/
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From: Edvard Fagerholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Server crashing
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 17:54:47 GMT
Neil Cherry wrote:
> Hmmm, Linux doesn't override anything unless you set it up that way
> (or it defaulted to that setting). One thing I did with my PNP BIOS
> was to shut it down. Once I had everything to where I wanted the BIOS
> would change it on me (ARGH!).
>
> Do you have the Linux PNP tools? Sounds like it's setup to change the
> PNP setting after boot
>
> --
> Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only)
> http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52 (Graphics)
> http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)
Well I found what was wrong. There's a little paragraph in the BP6
manual stating that anything in pci slot3 shares an interrupt with
HPT366... the thing is that when changing cards i never tried the option
with nothing in that slot. Now it doesn't even crash when ping flooding
a bogus IP and running a disk benchmark at the same time, seems quite
stable to me.
Well thanks to everyone that replied. Sorry for wasting your time, I
should have read the manual more carefully (I'm an idiot).
- Edvard Fagerholm
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From: E Levac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unresolved symbol
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:05:40 GMT
I have the same problem.
I do not have the answer :(
However, I did the same thing (recompile a module for the LNE100TX
Ethernet Card - tulip.c - for the Mandrake 7.1 system). I noticed that
the unresolved symbols all seemed to be followed by some kind of "serial
number". All the symbols terminate by a R followed by 8 hexadecimal
digits (lowercase). For example, "add-timer_Rbea990b2".
I tried to recompile the kernel and include the driver. It worked,
however, after I recompiled ALL the drivers, I did the "depmod -a
2.2.15-4mdk" command, and ALL the drivers were reported having unresolved
symbols.
It is probably a compiler option, but I do not know which one.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a piece of developmental hardware and a driver has been written
> for it that runs successfully on RH 6.1 with a 2.2.16 kernel. I then
> loaded Openlinux on the machine (OL 2.3 kernel 2.2.10) -- Full
> installation. I took the code for the driver, loaded it onto the
> machine and successfully recompiled it. When I went to insmod the
> object file, I get a page of unresolved symbols (ie, securebits,
> printk, block_read)...
>
> The kernel has not been tampered with, so I don't think it's a matter
> of recompiling the kernel, but there might be some option I don't know
> of in the kernel that I have to toggle. I have loaded the OS a couple
> of times, and started from scratch. I have been able to load the
> driver onto other versions of linux, so is there a difference in the
> platform I'm unaware of that could cause problems. Any help out there
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> mm
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jeff)
Subject: Re: Diabolical plot uncovered...
Date: 22 Oct 2000 18:04:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 12:35:39 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> jeff writes:
> > I spent much of the last month trying to get my otherwise
> > fine-and-dandy Debian Potato to recognize my serial ports.
> > ...
> > I was trying to use ttys0, and I _should_ have used ttyS0!!! How has
> > everyone else in the world avoided this diabolical plot?
>
> By subscribing to the debian-user mailing list and asking for help.
Tried that... also tried c.o.l.m... I obviously asked the wrong questions
:) BTW, this "problem" is not Debian specific. I just did a test install
of SuSE 7.0, which has not only /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/ttys0, but also the
deprecated (?) /dev/cua0.
In my own defense, I don't usually spend more than 15 seconds solving wrong
case errors, I just never guessed that this was one.
-jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Spath)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Controlling several boxes from one place
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:11:35 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Post
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 07:46:08 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund) wrote:
>
>-snip-
>>Question:
>>Is there some freeware software for WinNT (still my main work machine)
>>that can emulate an X terminal so I can access the Linux boxes via the
>>internal network?
>>I have tested an eval version of "KEA! X" and it works good, but it is
>>not freeware, instead rather expensive. I'd prefer some
>>freeware/shareware solution if it can do the job.
>
>Another poster has suggested VNC, which is probably a good choice. Or, you
>can go with XWin32, which in demo mode, provides you up to 2 hours of
>connection at a time, and then you have to reconnect. You can repeat this
>process indefinitely. That works well for me when I want to do work in X.
>They're at http://www.starnet.com/
>
>Or, you can go the best low-tech route, and use an Open Source telnet client
>called TeraTerm Pro. It won't handle X ,but then I don't spend much time in
>X anyway. (Certainly not to administer my machines.) That can be obtained
>at http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.html
I love Teraterm. It's the best terminal program out there for
Windoze that I've found so far. In addition, there is an SSH
add-on you can download to turn it into an SSH client. And it
all fits on a single floppy. Great for when I'm on the road
at mom's house and need to SSH into my home lan to read news,
check mail, etc. It even supports color properly.
And of course, Teraterm is freeware.
--
Gregory Spath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://freefall.homeip.net/
SCHeckler on IRC ----------> http://freefall.homeip.net/javairc/
Team YBR ------------------> http://www.yellowbreechesracing.org/
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From: Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Stupid question about telnet?
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:17:52 -0400
i have not used bastile, but my guess is that it disabled telnet. telnet
is outdated and insecure, and anyone who cares about security uses ssh
now.
Bo Berglund wrote:
>
> I have installed RH6.2 on a new PC.
> I also downloaded and ran the Bastille hardening script, but I have
> not proceeded to do anything about the result of the Bastille script
> yet (I assume that I have to do something to enable the protection).
> This is partly because I did not really understand some of the
> questions asked so I decided to let that wait.
>
> Now I have connected the PC to my internal LAN in order to start
> working on the networking part of it. It answers ping OK.
>
> But I cannot telnet to the PC from my WinNT machine and when I look at
> the ipchains setup it lokks like this:
> # ipchains -L
> Chain input (policy ACCEPT):
> Chain forward (policy ACCEPT):
> Chain output (policy ACCEPT):
>
> To me this looks like it will accept anything for now (what I
> expected). So why does it refuse telnet? Where is that set up?
> Or do you have to explicitly *enable* telnet after the RH6.2 install?
>
> please advice
>
> Bo Berglund
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> PGP: My public key is available at the following locations:
> Idap://certserver.pgp.com
> http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Spath)
Subject: Re: Linux firewall software question
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:20:46 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mike ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>Is there good firewall software for Linux that will also block Netscape
>pop-ups (like when you load somebody's page and some idiotic pop-up comes
>onto your screen)?
The only way I've found that exists is to disable javascript. There *IS* a
modified version of mosaic out there that can be configured as a proxy to
"rewrite" web pages as you view them. That will do what you want.
Do a search on "filtering proxy" on google. Here's a hit that may do
what you wish:
http://www.cert.dfn.de/eng/fwl/httpf/httpf.html
I have considered writing a proxy for just this purpose (filtering
out only certain javascript calls...like that annoying onopen() and
onclose() crap). I just haven't had the time.
>
>Thanks...
>
>Mike
>--
>
>
>
>------------------------
>mhardy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas; took the dog - Dorothy
>
>
>
>
>
--
Gregory Spath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://freefall.homeip.net/
SCHeckler on IRC ----------> http://freefall.homeip.net/javairc/
Team YBR ------------------> http://www.yellowbreechesracing.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: ISP advice sought, lansing.mi.us
Date: 22 Oct 2000 18:28:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:12:14 +0000 (UTC), David Efflandt wrote:
>On 22 Oct 2000 02:53:09 GMT, Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>It appears as if I'm stuck without DSL/cablemodem access for at least 2
>>months, so I'd appreciate advice on a reasonable dial-up ISP in the
>>Lansing, MI, USA area.
>>
>>I was looking at http://voyager.net ; they seem to have something
>>reasonable going on.
>
>I thought Voyager was acquired by (or merged with) Core.com. Check out
>http://www.core.com/ unlimited service (24hr at a time) under $10/mo, mail
>and news, works fine with Linux. I don't think they have shell access,
>but I just use it as my out of town ISP, since it is nationwide. I was up
>and running an hour after I signed up on a Sunday night. They have 4 pops
>in Lansing.
Thanks! Got it going within 45 minutes, and they do take AmEx. Yippee,
I guess....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: "John C. Hollemans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc
Subject: Re: Help me choose the best fileserver OS for a Compaq proliant server.
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:30:43 GMT
Dustin Puryear wrote:
>
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 03:12:20 GMT, dcs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I would appreciate any input anyone can offer. I don't have the bandwidth to
> >benchmark all these OSs, so I hope the net.community can help me narrow down
> >my choices. Here are my choices:
> >
> >FreeBSD
> >NetBSD
> >OpenBSD
> >Linux (RedHat or TurboLinux Server 6.x)
> >Windows 2000
>
> As others have mentioned, your list of *BSD choices is pretty much out.
> That only leaves you with Linux or Windows 2000. Is it at all possible
> for you to run at least limited trials using both? That is always a
> good way to go.
>
> Also, I have heard that there is a distributed file system ala Beowulf
> that works well in high-load environments on Linux. I'm not sure if what
> I heard is about a project still in alpha or in production. I can look
> around my stack of papers if you want.
>
> FYI, Samba performs very well, but you will *definately* need to tweak
> it for a high-load/performance environment. One of the biggest issues
> will be how your applications access the data (large chunks vs small
> chunks).
_____
You have overlooked an important PC based server platform and that is
OS/2 Warp 4 server. It provides the samba functionality as well, and
IBM is reportedly working towards a journalling file system for OS/2
servers. OS/2 does, however, cost money.
Regards / John
--
Message prepared: 11:24, 22/10/2000
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry)
Subject: Re: GPL questions?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:34:42 GMT
On 22 Oct 2000 19:14:55 +0100, Andreas K�h�ri wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Neil Cherry wrote:
>>I need some pointers on using the GPL, I know this isn't exactly the
>>right place but if you be so kind as to point me in the direction,
>>Thanks.
>>
>>What I specifically want to know is: what do I have do to setup the
>>GPL license to make it enforcable. Just saying it is, is not enough.
>>
>
>
>If the info on <URL:http://www.gnu.org/> (or, more specifically, at
><URL:http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html> (there's a
>pointer to an e-mail address there that might be useful for you)) is
>not enough, maybe the folks at the gnu.misc.discuss forum could help
>you.
Thanks Andreas, the news group was what I was really looking for. I
tried the first 2 but they don't clearly state: I need to have these
files and put this in the header and email this person for acceptance
or acknowledgment. I want this settled before people start
contributing to the code and complaining that it wasn't clear from the
start.
--
Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only)
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52 (Graphics)
http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Server crashing
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:39:37 -0000
Edvard Fagerholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sun, 22 Oct 2000 17:01:24 GMT, wrote :
EF> Robert Heller wrote:
EF> > Linux does not really like sharing interrupts across different kinds of
EF> > devices (sharing interrupts for different instances of the same device is
EF> > allowed, depending on how 'smart' the device driver is). *My* guess is
EF> > that when things get busy on eth1 and/or if the disk(s) on ide3 are
EF> > involved, somebody loses an interrupt and then waits 'forever' -- I.E.
EF> > you get a 'deadly embrace' (deadlock). If you can somehow change the
EF> > interrupt assignments around to avoid this interrupt sharing, things will
EF> > probably work better.
EF> >
EF>
EF> Well i had similar problems with an asus isdn card. The problem is that
EF> changing the pci slot of eth1 doesn't change it's irq. If i set the irq
EF> manually from the bios, linux will override it and use the same old
EF> irqs. On my asus p2b mainboard, i could change the irq by changing pci
EF> slot, but it doesn't work now. Also there seems to be no way to assign a
EF> custom irq to the HPT366 chip. Any suggestions?
EF>
Config the BIOS for 'non PNP OS' (turn BIOS PNP *OFF*).
You need to get the BIOS to assign unique IRQs to things. Normally,
the BIOS will assign different IRQs to PCI devices and it is more common
to have problems with conflicts with ISA cards. These 'PNP' PCI BIOS
generally have a 'legacy' ISA IRQ mapping. Is te HPT366 on the
motherboard or in a PCI slot? If on the motherboard, you *should* be
able to tell the motherboard how to assign IDE IRQ's, but this is not
something I am very up on -- *all of my* machines are SCSI boxes, and I
generally just totally disable the IDE on the motherboard.
Some BIOSes allow for different IRQ assignment orders, maybe this can
help. With three (four?) IDE busses (and three NICs) you might be
running out of available IRQs -- you might be out of luck. You can
score a AHA-2940U2 for $130 from teamexess.com and z-buy.com has some
great deals on Wide/Fast and LVD SCSI disks... One card, upto 15 disks
and only a single IRQ for all of them (vs 4 IRQs for 8 disks...) --
sometimes SCSI just plain rules!
--
\/
Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problems with linuxconf
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:30:30 GMT
iuse RedHat linux 6.2 with kernel 6.2 .After kernel recompilation ,
linuxconf simply refuses to come up and says Module identdconf not found
Also my ethernetcard does not respond to any ping requests and leaves
without an error message.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Andrew Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,linux.redhat.install,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: screen shoot during LINUX installation
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:41:58 +0100
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8sr6g8$f1f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
> I am wondering if there is any simple hardware that I can use on a
> seperate machine to capture (screenshoot, screen grab, screen dump
> etc...) the video signal from my computer as I install an operating
> system like Red Hat Linux 5.2 through to 7.0?
>
> I want to save some screens to keep a record of the installation
> process. At present, all I can think :-p of is to use a camera but
> there must be abetter way out there.
I you were made of money you could use something like a Voodoo 3 2000 with
TV OUT and a TV capture card on a different PC.
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From: "bluster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Stupid question about telnet?
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:43:25 -0400
Bo Berglund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have installed RH6.2 on a new PC.
> I also downloaded and ran the Bastille hardening script, but I have
> not proceeded to do anything about the result of the Bastille script
> yet (I assume that I have to do something to enable the protection).
Bastille works in two parts, the question part, and the
"make the changes" part. The AutomatedBastille.pl part only asks questions.
The BackEnd.pl part makes the changes, it must be run
separately, after running the question part.
> This is partly because I did not really understand some of the
> questions asked so I decided to let that wait.
Good idea, but I recommend implementing the Bastille changes ASAP.
> Now I have connected the PC to my internal LAN in order to start
> working on the networking part of it. It answers ping OK.
Good, the TCP/IP part is working!
> But I cannot telnet to the PC from my WinNT machine
The root account is never allowed to telnet in for security.
Does telnet work for a regular user?
> and when I look at the ipchains setup it lokks like this:
> # ipchains -L
> Chain input (policy ACCEPT):
> Chain forward (policy ACCEPT):
> Chain output (policy ACCEPT):
> To me this looks like it will accept anything for now (what I
> expected). So why does it refuse telnet? Where is that set up?
Ipchains only affects traffic between the NT box
and the internet, *not* stuff from the NT box to the linux box.
Local net traffic is usually just TCP/IP, which is working.
> Or do you have to explicitly *enable* telnet after the RH6.2 install?
That may be, for a default install I would consider that a wise
security choice. If that is the case you can activate it using
the linuxconf program, the settings you want are in the:
Config-->Networking-->Server tasks-->Basic services-->Servers
dialog screen, click on the telnet item in the list to (de)activate.
I urge you to scrap telnet and install ssh, it is more secure.
Bluster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Spath)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: crashed X on moving files
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:57:28 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <39f2db17$1$qnivfs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>Greetings!
>
>I would really like some help with this, partly to solve the
>problem but perhaps even more to understand it.
>
>(I'm not a complete newbie to Linux (off-and-on user (more 'off'
>than 'on') for about five yrs) but I'm digging in now more and
>want to learn repair and maintenance stuff that's second nature
>to me in OS/2 (and Windows).)
>
>So, here's the scoop. I'm using Mandrake 7 and whatever the KDE
>version it's got fresh off the cdrom. I've made myself user
><davisf> and find that (almost, not always) whenever I move files
>in and out of folders, X crashes.
>
>I get an error message like:
>"KiKbd: SelectWindowInput: XGetWindowAttributes: error: Window
>ID:2400100"
>
>(a) What's the problem?
>(b) Without blowing <davisf> away and reconfiguring, how do I
>repair?
>
>Here's a bonus question:
>(c) Is there a way to back up the desktop (like in OS/2) and
>restore it if it goes flakey?
Unfortunately, I don't know what is wrong with your file operations. Maybe it
is hardware related? The error indicates a problem when trying to use an X11
system call to get a certain window's attributes, so it is a problem with
either your windowmanager or kfm.
As far as backing up your desktop, it's easy. Just run tar every now and
then (either on login or in a cron job). As with OS/2, KDE's desktop
is simply a "folder" (directory) in a filesystem ($HOME/Desktop/). For
example:
tar -zcf /backuplocation/archivename.tgz $HOME/Desktop
OS/2 had REXX to take care of nifty scripts to do things like mentioned
above. In linux the shell you are using (probably bash) has scripting
built right in. I prefer to use PERL. You can write a script that
automatically keeps however many archive copies as you wish. At work
I do this with all of my databases on a server, and then automatically
copy those backups to another machine using ncftp's batch mode.
The filesystem in linux is actually a little nicer than OS/2's. It uses
the concept of OS/2's graphical shadows in the filesystem itself...they
are called symlinks.
BTW, as a former OS/2 user, I'd recommend using Windowmaker as a
windowmanager instead of KDE's kwm. You can then use DFM as a filemanager
(although KFM works fine too...but DFM actually does drag/drop with
windowmaker properly where KFM doesn't). DFM is designed based on the
OS/2 WPS and tries to work just like it.
Windowmaker: http://www.windowmaker.org/
DFM: http://dfm.online.de/
Being an OS/2 user, you will appreciate the simplicity and consistency
in windowmaker's menuing system and configuration. Of course, nothing
in linux can touch the WPS yet, and it will be some time before it does.
OS/2 was very visual. In linux, things are more text oriented, but the GUI
isn't bad..it's just not consistent :) You'll find that you can control a lot
of things in linux once you know the basics. I recommend reading the Linux
User's Guide and the Linux System Administrator's guide at the LDP:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/
Good luck, and welcome to linux!
-- greg, former OS/2 user.
--
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From: paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bootmanager Grub installation
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 20:59:35 +0200
does anybody know how to intall Grub in a way that it can boot win9x/2000
from primary master /dev/hda via nt-bootmenu (already installed) and linux
on secondary slave /dev/hdd8 logical drive in ext. part. on 20G disk ??
Lilo fails (guess because the disk is too big) and I was not able to
install grub neither via bootdisk nor with installed software and
/../bin/grub.
please mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I can give you more specific
informations whats going wrong when I tried to install the stuff (sorry
its not available at the moment)
many thanks Paul
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From: "bluster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Stupid question about telnet?
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 15:07:29 -0400
Hi Bo,
I notice from your 10/17 post that you used the RedHat "workstation"
install that does not install most server software, good idea!
Now you can add only servers that you *need*, less servers always
helps security. The telnet server RPM is most likely not installed
yet. Rather than installing it from the RH cd you should get the ssh
rpm's and install them.
There are a bunch of good ssh clients for MS OS's, I use PuTTY.
Bluster
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From: "Database" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rpm or debian packaging?
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:05:26 GMT
I want to start linux but I dont know if rpm or debian packaging is the
best. If I were to go with rpm, I will get Red Hat 7. If I do debian system,
i'll go with Storm.
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