Linux-Misc Digest #112, Volume #27               Wed, 14 Feb 01 18:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Linux Error: 23: Too many open files in system ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Strange phenomena ("Puchta Milos")
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
  Re: IP Masquerade ? (Clive DaSilva)
  All of linux in this site www.frecell.6go.net is the best site of linux ("frecell")
  Re: Compiling a Kernel... (Clive DaSilva)
  Re: Mail Server Newbie ("James Horvath")
  Re: PPP won't go on 2.4.1 (Clive DaSilva)
  Re: Linux Error: 23: Too many open files in system ("H.T. Morgan")
  Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter ("Peter T. Breuer")
  How to get Users to create files with another group as owner?? (Dan Smith)
  Re: PC, MAC and Linux Network (Jim Wallis)
  Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter (Peter Hayes)
  Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Help Needed Compiling linux 2.4.1... ("Richard M. Denney")
  A tale of woe  (alan simes)
  Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Simple Question on File Extension ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Uvfat2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Linux Error: 23: Too many open files in system
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:17:47 -0800

I crashed the my oracle instance with the following error:

=================================================
Tue Feb 13 22:15:16 2001
Errors in file 
/home/oracle/product/8.1.6/admin/v2qa1/bdump/lgwr_14175.trc:
ORA-00313: open failed for members of log group 2 of thread 1
ORA-00312: online log 2 thread 1: '/db03/v2qa1/system/log/redo02.log'
ORA-27041: unable to open file
Linux Error: 23: Too many open files in system
Additional information: 2
LGWR: terminating instance due to error 313
Instance terminated by LGWR, pid = 14175
=================================================

Is the number of open files adjustable? How?

Thanks - Craig

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From: "Puchta Milos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Strange phenomena
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:33:39 +0100

I have just installed host with 4 NICs. When opening Netscape I can see
strange random picture in the vicinity of netscape windows.
Sometimes I obtain a message on the network error.

Any idea?

TIA
Milos



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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:37:50 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wrote:
>> How do theists explain God?

> Stefan writes:
>> I'd like to know that too.. but they usually don't.

> Thus they multiply their hypotheses needlessly.

Actually, both are explained the same way.

When Moses asked God what his name was, God answered,
"I am". Some say, "I am that I am".

In other words God just is.

Materialist have the same answer when it comes to the 
Universe. It just is.

It takes faith to beleive in God.

It also takes faith to believe the Universe is as appears
to the 5 senses.

Because of this it also takes great faith to not believe 
( or believe not) in God.

Science and logic are a religion.


> -- 
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin

-- 
=============================================================================
- Bob Surenko                              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/                               
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From: Clive DaSilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IP Masquerade ?
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:37:59 -0500

Eric

jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide. has a nice document on ip_masq.
I also documented my adventures with ip_masq setup on a doc on
my home page www.geocities.com/Broadway/2207

hopefully this will be of some use

good luck



Eric Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Heello,
>
>Would you please to teach me how to setup IP-Masquerade in Linux ?
>Would you please to teach me step by step ?
>
>
>And also, how can my Modem automatic to dialup when Linux start ?
>Would you please to show me a script to do this with auto login ?
>
>
>Best regards,
>Eric
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com
>http://www.deja.com/


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From: "frecell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: All of linux in this site www.frecell.6go.net is the best site of linux
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:43:55 +0100

All of linux in this site www.frecell.6go.net is the best site of linux



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From: Clive DaSilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Compiling a Kernel...
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:43:22 -0500

I would suhhest that you try make bzImage instead of make zImage, that
way you get a compressed kernel with a reasonable size. Mine (2.4.1)
came out at 850 kb (with all the netfilter modules made)

good luck


Dedicated to all Manson Fans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>After two packages of cigarettes, many bottles of beer and no progress I
>have to to scream for help. I try to compile a new Kernel (2.4.1) and
>there seems to be no way to get it to an acceptable size. The biggest I
>got was about 2.2 MB the smallest about 1.4 MB
>I need Samba, vfat (for Fat32), TCP/IP, PPP, a running X-Server,
>loopback-devices and my CS4232 ISA-PNP-Sound card (with OPL3 I think).
>I've no SCSI, all drives are IDE/ATAPIs. There's also a
>standard-no-name-isa-modem (non-PNP) and a QIC-80 Tape drive I want to
>use (The modem is a must). The rest is as usual (Floppy, ...)
> I'd like to have the matrox acceleration for my mystique, the support
>of the Pentium/MMX and Fat16 support. This should be all now.
>I'll attach my .config so you probably can tell me what's wrong.
>If you have a .config, please send it to me.
>
>Thank you very much...


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From: "James Horvath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mail Server Newbie
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:50:29 -0600

Thank you all for the responses. To clarify a couple issues and keep you all
up to date (if you care):

1). Mandrake 7.2 minimal install did in fact install sendmail, not postfix.
This may have been a recent change to Mandrake?

2). At the behest of the original responder, and after reviewing countless
web pages on the differences between qmail and sendmail, I yanked sendmail
off the system and installed qmail 1.03 from source. The installation has
apparently gone smoothly as all of the tests proposed fire without a hitch.
I did pick up the O'Reilly Sendmail book (a.k.a. the bat book) but haven't
put much time into reading it yet. It is my intention to switch over to the
more universal standard (sendmail) at some point in the distant future.

Which leaves me a little in the dark. I still need a way to connect to the
mail directories with Microsoft Outlook (for both sending and receiving).
Many of you have mentioned Qpopper (which I'll download in a little bit),
but I'd like to make sure I'm not overlapping or running more than I need
to. Presently I have Fetchmail, Qmail, and (soon) Qpopper running (in
addition to some recommended toolsets like qmail daemontools). Is this the
best combination of ease and efficiency?

Outlook sends messages to Qmail smtp which sends the mail to my ISP.
Messages from the ISP are grabbed by Fetchmail, stored on the Linux server,
and delivered to Outlook by Qpopper/imapd/ipop3d. This is more or less my
understanding of the process. Can Qmail act as the pop3/imap server to
replace Qpopper/imapd/ipop3d? If so, how?

James

"Rod Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:IzBi6.30422$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> >
> >> Michael Heiming wrote:
> >> >
> >> > James Horvath wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I have Mandrake Linux 7.2 (minimal install) on a Pentium Celeron
400MHz with
> >> > > 32MB RAM.
> >
> > Anyway, his distro should have some tool to set this and make it even
easier, but I
> > don't know about mandrake,
>
> I missed the comment about the original poster using Mandrake. Mandrake
> uses Postfix as its default MTA. As such, it's probably best to *NOT*
> install sendmail, but reconfigure Postfix as required. Of course, if you
> really WANT to use sendmail, you can rip out Postfix and install
> sendmail, but that's just extra effort. Since that post also mentioned
> installing sendmail, it's unclear if this has already been done or if it
> might perhaps be running BOTH Postfix AND sendmail, which could
> conceivably cause conflicts or peculiar behavior.
>
> James Horvath originally wrote:
>
> > My question is, what do I need to setup to read my mail from my Windows
> > machine using Outlook 2000?  I can read it from Linux using Kmail, etc.,
so
> > I know the transfer from the POP accounts worked fine.
>
> If this much is working, you're most of the way there. You just need a
> POP or IMAP server for Linux, to let your local network systems read the
> mail. I believe both come in a package called imap on Mandrake, so just
> install that and, if necessary, futz with the appropriate /etc/xinetd.d/
> configuration files to enable the server(s). (You'll need to restart
> xinetd so it knows to handle the new servers.)
>
> --
> Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.rodsbooks.com
> Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration



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From: Clive DaSilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP won't go on 2.4.1
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:46:15 -0500

Hey Norm

you need ppp-2.4.0 for kernel 2.4.1. search for it on the net or get
it from ftp.gnu.org.

its an easy install 

*grin*


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Norm Bartley) wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>Some recent discussion on PPP problems seems to suggest that
>this is an appropriate place to seek help.
>
>PPP fails identically on my two RedHat 7.0/2.4.1 systems configured
>with modems. The chat script completes nicely on each, then when it's
>time for pppd to take over, it promptly announces:
>
>pppd: ioctl (PPPIOCGFLAGS): Invalid argument
>
>and exits immediately. One system is an Athlon/A7V with a USR 56K
>PCI modem (nothing wrong with this hardware - worked fine on 2.2.x).
>The other is a brand-new Dell Inspiron 8000 laptop with a built-in
>Lucent Technology "linmodem" and a PCMCIA USR 56K card -- each device
>fails the above ioctl in the same way. (By the way, the "linmodem"
>otherwise works great!)
>
>Naturally, I have compiled PPP support (in all combinations of options)
>into the kernel. Has anyone run into this problem? Can't seem to find
>any fresh info'. Any tips would be very much appreciated!
>
>Cheers,
>Norm


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From: "H.T. Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux Error: 23: Too many open files in system
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:55:29 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I crashed the my oracle instance with the following error:
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Tue Feb 13 22:15:16 2001
> Errors in file
> /home/oracle/product/8.1.6/admin/v2qa1/bdump/lgwr_14175.trc:
> ORA-00313: open failed for members of log group 2 of thread 1
> ORA-00312: online log 2 thread 1: '/db03/v2qa1/system/log/redo02.log'
> ORA-27041: unable to open file
> Linux Error: 23: Too many open files in system
> Additional information: 2
> LGWR: terminating instance due to error 313
> Instance terminated by LGWR, pid = 14175
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> Is the number of open files adjustable? How?
>
> Thanks - Craig

You can change the limit in /usr/src/linux.../include/linux/limits.h
file and recompile the kernel. Default in Redhat 6.2 is 256.

Regards,
H.T.


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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:48:04 +0100

In comp.os.linux.misc Chris Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> >>I have RHat 7.0 installed on my IBM thinkpad and when I type
>> >>
>> >>% ifconfig eth0 (or eth1)
>> >>
>> >>it does not find the card. The card, a 3Com 10/100 PCI Mini Ethernet
>> >>adapter works properly when I boot Windows 2000 on the same laptop.
>> 
>> What card? What are you talking about???? Laptops don't have "cards" in
>> the same way as desktops do. They have pcmcia sockets or cardbus
>> sockets.

> Hate for you to be the last person to find out, but they do now.  It's
> called *miniPCI*.  On my Dell C800 its a little card that plugs into the

So I have been informed (by mail)!

> bottom, it currently allows built in ethernet and modem.  miniPCI is
> also used in docking stations.  It is supported under linux.

Apparently these are mini PCI cards. As such, tehy work just like any
PCI card. Hooray. This years innovation.

Can one go round buying these things? I was just screwing up courage to
buy one of those usb video disk thingies that fit into walkmen or
something, to see if I could make it work like disk.

> To original poster:

> If you 'cat /proc/pci' does the minPCI and 3com show up?

One would hope it shows up as a normal pci device. Is there a 
second bus (with a bridge to it) or is it just the cards that are mini?

Peter

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From: Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to get Users to create files with another group as owner??
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:27:30 -0500

Hi,

I need to make it so that when a user (member of group A) creates a 
file, the ownership is: user.groupB.  I need to make the group owner NOT 
their group, but another one (so a group of semi-admins can access their 
stuff)..

How do I do this???

Thanks!

(I would prefer an email to ds37577!@!appstate!.!edu <remove ! chars>)

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From: Jim Wallis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: PC, MAC and Linux Network
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:05:10 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> If the P166 machine is not being used for anything,
> use that as the router/firewall. Get a second NIC
> for it, connect one to the hub and one to the cable
> modem. Connect the other two computers to the hub.
> I don't know if your printer has ethernet networking
> capability. If so, then connect that to the hub too,
> if not, then connect it to the AMD K6 workstation.
> 
> If you are using the P166 machine, then get another
> computer for the router/firewall. A 386 with 8MB
> RAM should be more than enough. You can probably
> pick one up for about $25 or find one someone is
> throwing out and get it for free. Install Linux
> and 2 NIC's, connect one to the hub and the other
> to the cable modem. Connect the other three
> computers to the hub.

Sound advice, I'm looking for a reasonably priced 486 or low end pentium
to set up as a firewall/router.

The essentials are:
2 Networking cards
IP-Masquerading, IP-Forwarding and IP-chains support in the kernel

Look on the LDP homepage for the firewall Howto, it has the minimum spec
for a firewall and a lot of info on how to configure IP-chains as a
firewall. IPchains isn't very easy to get the hang of but you could
always make use of one of the floppy based router/firewall distributions
available - it should be fairly simple with one of them! Look under
software and routers on http://www.cable-modems.co.uk/ for several!

The setup would be CM -> router -> hub -> Other machines
You can either run a DHCP server on the router or more simply use
private IP addresses on your LAN - with the latter arrangement there
should be no chance of the router mistaking local and internet packets!

Good Luck, 

JIM

PS: your message was not related to m68k so I uncrossposted from there!

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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:04:32 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:44:03 +0100, "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.hardware [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:04:24 -0800, "Guillermo Auad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> 
> >>I have RHat 7.0 installed on my IBM thinkpad and when I type
> >>
> >>% ifconfig eth0 (or eth1)
> >>
> >>it does not find the card. The card, a 3Com 10/100 PCI Mini Ethernet
> >>adapter works properly when I boot Windows 2000 on the same laptop.
> 
> What card? What are you talking about???? Laptops don't have "cards" in
> the same way as desktops do. They have pcmcia sockets or cardbus
> sockets. You need to install pcmcia drivers, and pcmcia tools, and so
> on. 

These will be installed along with the rest of the OS. I'd be very
surprised if any laptop installation didn't install all the pcmcia modules,
etc.

I recently got a 56k pcmcia modem for my Gateway laptop running Mandrake
7.2 All I had to do was change the modem device in KPPP from ttyS0 (the
Com1 port for my external modem) to ttyS1 for the pcmcia card. That's all.

Windoze ME required the driver disk and the obliatory reboot (geez, when
WILL MS get away from this obsession with rebooting???).

Same scenario with my cheapskate ethernet card, identified as a NE2000
clone.

The original poster will have to find the driver for the card. Windows
Control Panel may help here.

Boot the machine with the card inserted. I'd be surprised if Kudzu couldn't
find the card, it usually does an excellent job of identifying hardware,
much better than Windows (which recently added an extra network card to my
Win98 box all by itself. I hadn't even taken the case off the machine).

Peter
-- 

In the 19th century surveyors measured the height of Everest
from 500 miles away in India.
This cannot be done today. Everest is no longer visible from
the survey location due to increased atmospheric pollution.

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:51:06 +0100

In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:21:04 -0700, Chris Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yea.
>>> Run Windows instead of Linsux .
>>> 
>>> Or, do without your hardware like most Linux users.

>       I have been using a USB keyboard, mouse and joystick for 12 months.

I must admit I've been using a usb keybd for a while, and just got a
mouse and camera). And I'm using kernel 2.2.15, slightly patched.

>       I have been using a flatbed scanner and video overlay card for 
>       over 2 years.

Well, on that I think I run 5 years.

>       What is it that I'm supposed to be missing?

Some joystick thing, I think. Also all those win* devices. Of course
it takes a while to support idiosyncratic proprietary hardware. What
beats me is why the companies who get supported in thsi way don't pay a
reward to the authors.


Peter

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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 04:20:12 -0600
From: "Richard M. Denney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help Needed Compiling linux 2.4.1...

Aaron Dhiman wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm new to Linux and am trying to compile 2.4.1, but keep getting the
> message:
>
> "In file included from /usr/local/linux/include/linux/raid/md.h:51,
>                  from init/main.c:25:
> /usr/local/linux/include/linux/raid/md_k.h: In function `pers_to_level':
>
> /usr/local/linux/include/linux/raid/md_k.h:39: warning: control reaches
> end of non-void function make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1"
>
> and the compile keeps crashing.  If I comment out the body of the
> function 'pers_to_level', compile goes a little longer, but then crashes
> on another warning.  Shouldn't the compile complete, regardless of
> "warnings"?  Any suggestions?
>
> I'm on an Athlon/K7 system, running Red Hat 7.0.
>
> Thanks for any help!

Are you using the kgcc compiler (rather than gcc) as suggested by Red Hat
for version 7? You do this by editing the Makefile in the top level
directory of the linux source (/usr/src/linux, probably), changing the
reference to gcc to kgcc. Then recompile (make clean dep modules
modules_install install). You may find that the errors go away...

My "Makefile" reads (after changing gcc to kgcc):

CC  = $(CROSS_COMPILE)kgcc -D_KERNEL_ -I$(HPATH)

Rick


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From: alan simes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A tale of woe 
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:28:10 +0000

For years I have programmed for Windows even as far back as 2.0 !!

Then suddenly in one mad moment I bought Red Hat Linux 7.0 from PC world
4 weeks ago.

Though I would have a stab at Linux....

My marriage is on the rocks, I havent seen my two baby daughters in days
and my beard is coming along nicely, oh yes the personal hygene bit has
gone to pot......

What kind of crazy individual actually provides you with the tools to
compile your own Kernel? I mean come on, I have a life, its just not
fair..

"be down in a minute darling, just adding an ISDN module to the Linux
2.4.1 kernel........."

Linux has wrecked my life and I love every second of it....

Connected my Epson Stylus printer to Linux and would it work, would it
hell as like, need to change the permissions for /dev/lp0 to 666, I mean
just how fantastic does this OS get..........


Yours going quietly mad



alan simes

PS dont suppose anyone nows how to get an HP4200C scanner working over
USB, ive read all the txt files and sane just complains...






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:29:52 GMT

On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:21:04 -0700, Chris Webster
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>> Yea.
>> Run Windows instead of Linsux .
>> 
>> Or, do without your hardware like most Linux users.
>
>Hmmm, still waiting for Win98 to support my USB Jumpshot card reader.
>
>--Chris

Maybe you're just not looking hard enough?

http://www.lexarmedia.com/dfreaders/dfr-software.html

BTW what does that thing do anyway?


Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
Remove the ++++ to reply.

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Simple Question on File Extension
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:14:20 +0100

George Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>    My linux is a little rusty.  I've come across a linux/unix type file
> with a .sh extension.  That is, the file is called "somefile.sh"
> Can anyone please tell me what kind of file this is?  Is it a script
> file, a log file, ???

You can tell that yourself by looking inside it!


Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Uvfat2
Date: 14 Feb 2001 22:19:11 GMT

Uvfat would be very useful to Window 9x users who want to dual boot
Linux & Win9x without reparitioning, Since the orginal uvfat is dead,
and the source is offically gone, uvfat2 would be harder to implement.
However (keeping in mind that I've never seen uvfat's orginal code nor do
I know of how it came to be), I believe (keeping in mind that I'm a newbie
C programmer) that one could modify the umsdos source code to provide the
missing functionality of uvfat. (Uvfat2 WILL NOT be intergrated w/ umsdos,
mereky based heavily apon it.) For version 0.0, replace all the msdos
filesystem calls with the vfat ones. Uvfat2 v0.0 will act just like umsdos.
Uvfat2 0.1 will have enhaced filename handling code. Here's the trick I bet
(keeping in mind that I've never seen uvfat's orginal code) uvfat's orginal
creators never thought of: keep the file names stored in those ---linux--.---
files. Basicly, you just keep the filename in the ---linux--.--- file,
and write the filename with vfat's driver. This brings the problem that
the original creators had: what to do with same case names? Uvfat2 v0.1
will be worse off, but v0.2 will be partly fixed. You see, since names are
still stored in those ---linux--.--- files, you simply test to see if a
filenameon a uvfat2 fs has a filename that differs only by case. If so,
then you just turn it into a umsdos filename, and store that file name in the
--linux--.--- file. Like this:

        A okay name:
        AB = AB
        Bad name: (case diffrence)
        ab = ab.}01 (or whatever)

Clever, huh? v0.2 will only partly impement this, ie. ab = ab.}01 not stored.
In other words, v0.2 will have exactly the same problems as the orginal
uvfat/.
Uvfat v0.3 will have this, however, so you can finally get a perfect uvfat
system. There is one more step, however. Vfat can't handle certain characters
that Unix fs's can. Therefore, Uvfat2 v0.4 will have translation from a
filename with bad chars to a umsdos file name. However, like v0.2, it isn't
stored yet in the main file. v0.5 will do this. after that, and lots of
testing, uvfat2 will be ready to become version 1.0, hopefully soon.
Also, as this method can be applied to any umsdos code, 2.0, 2.2, and 2.4
can have this support. (Even though 2.0 has old uvfat, since it can't store
filenames file uvfat2 v0.3 can, uvfat2 will still replace it anyways.) With
my method, I believe Uvfat will live again! I hope that someone decides to
try to start uvfat2 for me, as I lack the techincal skill to do so as of yet.
(But I am learning :) Thank you for your time.

P.S. I know my versioning scheme is dumb. v0.0, v0.1, and v0.2  can be
combined
into one version, then lots more for testing, then v0.4 & v0.5 can be one, and
then more versions due to more testing again. And I know that I skip from v0.5
to v1.0, but since my scheme doesn't need more (improvements upon diffrent
revisions, such as bug crunching for v0.3, will have diffrent increments, ie.
first v0.3 is v0.3.0, next is v0.3.1, and so on. That said, I would also like
to point out that my scheme can be ajusted to fit to your needs. So if you
don't like something that I mentioned here, you don't have to impelement that.
I really don't care about that, since getting a working Uvfat2 is the most
important thing.

P.P.S. I call it Uvfat2 since Uvfat was a failure (lower & upper case didn't
work out), and the code is gone, so Uvfat2 will be remade from scratch. (I
know
I said it would be based on Umsdos, but it's based on scratch since it has
none
of uvfat's orginal code in it.)

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