Linux-Misc Digest #355, Volume #26 Mon, 20 Nov 00 11:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: ufs rw filesystem driver? (Robert Kiesling)
Re: Which Linux to try? (Rod Smith)
Re: Slackware, Soundcards and kernel matters... (Kevin Croxen)
Re: How should I install Linux and Win2K (dual boot) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: !! PLEASE HELP THIS NEWBEE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Frame Buffering and Red Hat 7.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Can I use another distro's kernel? (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: Can I use another distro's kernel? (Derek Jolly)
Re: Undelete a file in Linux (Jason)
Re: users,groups,persmissions etc ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Can I use another distro's kernel? (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: mail server (David)
Re: !! PLEASE HELP THIS NEWBEE (David)
Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. ( Black Dragon)
Developing kernel (Peter Larance)
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Subject: Re: ufs rw filesystem driver?
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:10:50 GMT
"dpc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hola,
>
> I'm moving a drive from a FreeBSD system to a new install of Mandrake 7.2
> (Server install - high security).
> I've read on the FreeBSD website that linux > 2.1 kernel has rw support for
> ufs filesystems. So I try the following.
>
> # mount -t ufs -o ufstype=44bsd /dev/hdc1 /mntpoint
> # touch /mntpoint/filename
> touch: /mntpoint/filename: Read-only file system
> # mount | grep mntpoint
> /dev/hdc1 on /mntpoint type ufs (rw,ufstype=44bsd)
>
> So it says in mount that it's rw, however when I try to write to it, I get
> Read-only file system!
> Am I missing something here, or am I doing something blatantly wrong? I've
> tried adding rw to the options as well. Does Linux not really support rw of
> ufs???
By default, no. UFS r/w support is _experimental_.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Which Linux to try?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:15:33 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jim Cleary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am planning to try out Linux and have a partition available to install
> it into.
> I have copies of Corel Linux
> Red Hat 6.2
> and Caldera Open Linux 1.3.
> I would welcome suggestions of which of these three would be the best to
> go for. I have a fair amount of computer experience but none with Linux
> [or Unix].
Caldera 1.3 is pretty old (the current version is 2.4). Red Hat 6.2 is
one version behind (the latest is 7.0, which came immediately after
6.2). You didn't say what version of Corel you've got, but it's fairly
recent anyhow, so it can't be older than the Caldera.
You may want to check my Web page on distributions, at
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Croxen)
Subject: Re: Slackware, Soundcards and kernel matters...
Date: 20 Nov 2000 14:26:58 GMT
As for the sound, the Slackware FAQ at www.slackware.com includes this
--perms on /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer have to be set to something along the
lines of 666
Can't help you with the kernel --I think I'll wait another year or so
until 2.4.0-test35 or -test40 is out before taking the plunge... :)
Cheers,
--Kevin
In article <8vb9q2$8k0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sebastian Palm wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I was fiddling around with my Slackware 7.1 based Linux box,
>so far upgraded with the 2.2.17 kernel and KDE 2.0 only when
>I encountered something I couldn't soleve by looking at the
>howto's. I know it's there, somewhere, but I can't find it...
>
>The system won't let me use the sound card unless I'm root.
>No mp3's, no system sounds, no nothing. It's OK, I'm used to
>not having sound, but since root can use all this, why won't
>it let my regular account do it?
>
>I think it has to do with a file permission, but I'm stumped
>as to which file and which permission. Can anyone help me out?
>
>(Kernel is 2.2.17, compiled as a modular kernel, with the
>emu10k1 module loaded at startup. I've not yet tried if it
>works in GNOME, since I'd have to install that first.)
>
>Next, the 2.4.0-test9 kernel. It looks good, it starts good -
>but where oh where did my modules go? I can find the files,
>but modprobe has turned blind. The /lib/modules/2.4.0-test9/
>tree looks nothing like the old 2.2.x trees, so I wonder what
>to do about this. I _want_ that ACPI support. I _need_ the USB
>functions. RH had USB, which I liked very much, but wouldn't
>compile anything. 2.4.x has all of it, but I can't load the
>modules... Again, can anyone give me a hint?
>
>
>Sebastian
>
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>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How should I install Linux and Win2K (dual boot)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:13:28 GMT
I have done it with great success. But I do recommend looking at
http://howto.tucows.com/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html
Normally everybody recommends installing 2000 first.
What this will do will be to have Linux and 2000 on the same machine
USING the NT Boot loader.
_____________BUT_____________
The bad thing is: How this works is taking a linux boot image and
copying it over to the Windows 2000 partition so the 2000 boot loader
will see it.
WHICH MEANS everytime you upgrade your kernel you will have to go
through the same process of copying it over to the 2000 side and update
it.
TOOLS everytime the Linux installation asks you to create a book disk
DO IT!!!!
In article <nk1S5.38107$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [Posted and mailed]
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Brando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > I have a 6 GB HD (Laptop) and I want to dual boot Linux and Win2K.
I have a fresh disk to
> > install on so I don't have to save any data.
> >
> > What's the best way to go about doing this? Which OS should I
install first and how should
> > I set up the partitions. I want about 2.5 GB for Windoze and 3.5
for Linux. I do have
> > Partition Magic.
>
> I recommend the following:
>
> 1) Use PM to set up your partitions. Use ext2fs for Linux, Linux swap
> for Linux swap, and NTFS or FAT for Win2K. You may also want a FAT
> partition for data exchange. Win2K requires a primary partition,
but
> the rest can be logical. A LOT more can be written about
partitioning
> details.
> 2) Install Win2K.
> 3) Install Linux, and be sure to add the Win2K partition to the LILO
> (Linux Loader) configuration.
>
> Many people advise using Win2K's OS Loader to choose which OS to boot.
> Personally, I dislike this solution, because it requires that you
copy a
> boot sector to a file accessible to Win2K whenever you change you
> kernel, which I consider a pain. LILO can boot Win2K directly,
obviating
> the need for extra shenanigans. If LILO resides in the MBR, though,
it's
> at least potentially susceptible to being overwritten at Win2K's whim.
>
> Lots more can be said about multi-booting (in fact, I wrote a book on
> the subject; see http://www.rodsbooks.com/multiboot/ for details).
Post
> if you have more specific questions.
>
> --
> Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.rodsbooks.com
> Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
>
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Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: !! PLEASE HELP THIS NEWBEE
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:17:46 GMT
On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:07:39 +0100, "Circles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi,
>Can anyone tell me how i can login to a linux box as root
>by a telnet client ?
>Thanx
This is NOT a good idea. You should do this in a safer way (have root
get access to your machine). If someone was to read the packets of
your logging into your machine as root, they would then know your root
password, and could telnet in as well. SSH is one of the better
methods for doing this.
But, that not withstanding, if you power up your command line and look
at the man page for the securetty file (/etc/securetty), you will see
that this file lists the TTYs that root is allowed to login from.
Typically, this contains all the TTYs associated with all the virtual
terminals on your console.
P.S.: Do you think you sent this message to enough newsgroups?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Frame Buffering and Red Hat 7.0
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:25:50 GMT
I was installing Red Hat 7.0 this weekend and noticed something bad
about the installer. The Xconfigurator doesn't probe my card anymore
like v6.1 -&- 6.2. HA! I even used XF86Setup and it crapped out... just
a grey screen with the X for the mouse.
Which led me back to Frame Buffering....
>From what I know about frame buffering, it allows the OS to access the
video card without having to use drivers.
WHICH MEANS: Any monitor or video card can be used and you get great
output. Switch monitors??? Doesn't matter...
QUESTION: Has anybody manually used frame buffering on their system and
can describe how they did it or point me to a great web site on how to
do it??
I have already checked out the HOW-TO but was unfortunate that it was
so dry that it changed the humidity in my house.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Can I use another distro's kernel?
Date: 20 Nov 2000 15:30:06 GMT
A friend just gave me a CD with Corel Linux, and the case says it's
mostly based off of Debian, and at a higher release level than mine,
which is Mandrake 6.0 at kernel 2.2-13mdk or something like that
Rather than do a complete reinstall of Linux, is there a way that I can
"import" the kernel itself? Would you recommend a recompile?
I really want to make use of an HSP internal modem, which the CD claims
is supported right out-of-the-box. I haven't been able to use pctel.o
(available on the web) as an insmod on my current Linux anyway. I'd like
to get some use out of it if I can
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek Jolly)
Subject: Re: Can I use another distro's kernel?
Date: 20 Nov 2000 15:44:05 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan), in message
<8vbg1u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote
>A friend just gave me a CD with Corel Linux, and the case says it's
>mostly based off of Debian, and at a higher release level than mine,
>which is Mandrake 6.0 at kernel 2.2-13mdk or something like that
>Rather than do a complete reinstall of Linux, is there a way that I can
>"import" the kernel itself? Would you recommend a recompile?
>
Yep. Grab the kernel source off the Corel CD and compile within your
distro.
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From: Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Undelete a file in Linux
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:38:12 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Why do not users make backups? Those who used Windows before must realize
> more than any the importance of backups when the system loses or messes up
> their files. A user's accidently removing a file is just the same. I have
> had Unix lose me (all but the first block of) a file once in 25 years, and
> Linux has never lost me a file in over two years, but I remove one by
> mistake every once in a while. Backups have saved me every time.
No one will argue this with you Im sure. What really bothers me though is
the amount of NO answeres this thread received. It seems like that just
because most people dont know how to do it, they instantly spout off that
it cant be done. In fact, their are several ways to restore files on an
EXT2 file system. The easiest of which is to just use mc, a tool that most
newbies will find comforting anyways. I just wish that people would do
more research into a problem before sending it to the tool shed. But, I
digress.
--
Jason
www.cyborgworkshop.com
...and the geek shall inherit the earth...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: users,groups,persmissions etc
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:37:41 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Wayne Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Zip wrote:
...
> Work groups are people with common access needs. For instance
> all web authors that need permission to modify the company web
> site's contents. You can create a group "web", add all web authors
> to it, and make files in your website document root rw by group.
Hi Wayne,
I saw this posting about using groups and I hope you can help me.
I've been a part time sys admin for 10 years but I've never really
needed to use groups before.
I now do have a use for a group and I am having trouble getting it to
work. I've created a directory that I want a number of users to be able
to write to. We are using it as a 'data repository' for a project we are
all working on.
Having used Linuxconf to set up my users, each user has their own group.
I remember when I first started using Linux, the instructions said to do
this. I think I understood it then and your message talks about it more.
Anyway what I'm trying to do should work, I think but I must be
doing something wrong.
First off, I'm running RH6.1 on a Dell 700MHz machine.
I created a group and put all the users I want to have access to the
directory in the group. Here's the line from /etc/group:
momax::500:kmb,jdoutt,howitt,lsouza,root
Then I set up permissions for the directory as follows:
drwxrwxr-x 2 lsouza momax 4096 Nov 20 09:21 ./
drwxrwxr-x 4 root momax 4096 Nov 20 09:21 ../
Typing 'groups' for any of the users tells me the group file is set up
ok:
/mnt/data/MOMAX>groups lsouza
lsouza : lsouza momax
/mnt/data/MOMAX>groups howitt
howitt : howitt momax
But when user 'howitt' tries to 'touch ./try' they get 'permission
denied'.
What am I missing?
I have tried:
adding 'root' (who was the owner of the dir)to the group
creating a users 'momax' and making that the owner
I can think of ways around this problem (there are no other users on
this machine so I could just make it world writable, for instance)
but it should work!
Any ideas?
TIA,
Cindy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,alt.linux
Subject: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it.
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:37:05 GMT
I am at my last thread of sanity...
I am using Red Hat 7.0 and trying to get KDE 2.0 on it.
I have deinstalled KDE 1.0 and installed KDE 2.0 = NOTHING
I have renamed KDE 1.0 and reinstalled KDE 2.0 = NOTHING
I have deinstalled KDE 1.0 and tarred the slackware KDE 2.0 (is it
compatible with Red HAT??) = NOPE!!
I have also installed the KDE rpms from www.kde.org's site and I get a
grey screen and a KDE logo to start up with but craps out after 10
seconds.
Somebody suggested compiling the source.. but I loaded it and said that
I didn't have the correct C compiler on it (or something like that) AND
I checked....sure enough I have gcc on the machine.
Can anybody make any sain reason on how to proceed???
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Can I use another distro's kernel?
Date: 20 Nov 2000 15:37:29 GMT
A friend just gave me a Corel Linux CD, supposedly built off of Debian,
with a kernel having a higher release level than mine. I currently have
Mandrake 6.0 with the 2.2-13mdk. WOuld it be possible to "import" the
kernel? Should I get the source and recompile on my machine?
I ask this because the CD claims it supports HSP modems right out of the
box. And for the longest time, I've been trying to get mine to work using
pctel.o but somehow insmod isn't enough (IRQ? who knows?) to get it
working. Thanks for any help, I'd really like to avoid a complete reinstall
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail server
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:46:28 -0600
Andreas Moroder wrote:
>
> Hello I am searching a good mail-server for linux. It should support SMTP ,
> POP3 and IMAP4.
>
> Can anyone tell what he thinks is the best ?
>
> Thank you
> Andreas Moroder
>
> If possible please send me the answer via e-mail
Qmail
http://www.qmail.org/
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: !! PLEASE HELP THIS NEWBEE
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:24:14 -0600
Circles wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Can anyone tell me how i can login to a linux box as root
> by a telnet client ?
> Thanx
Login as a user then "su" to root.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Black Dragon )
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it.
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:55:16 GMT
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:37:05 GMT in alt.linux,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' said:
: I am at my last thread of sanity...
:
: I am using Red Hat 7.0 and trying to get KDE 2.0 on it.
:
: I have deinstalled KDE 1.0 and installed KDE 2.0 = NOTHING
: I have renamed KDE 1.0 and reinstalled KDE 2.0 = NOTHING
: I have deinstalled KDE 1.0 and tarred the slackware KDE 2.0 (is it
: compatible with Red HAT??) = NOPE!!
:
: I have also installed the KDE rpms from www.kde.org's site and I get a
: grey screen and a KDE logo to start up with but craps out after 10
: seconds.
:
: Somebody suggested compiling the source.. but I loaded it and said that
: I didn't have the correct C compiler on it (or something like that) AND
: I checked....sure enough I have gcc on the machine.
:
: Can anybody make any sain reason on how to proceed???
Use GNOME! :-)
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From: Peter Larance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Developing kernel
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:59:32 GMT
Hi all
I am student working on a program (module) in Linux to control the
communication between two computers ( like changing bandwidth and
generating packet loss and delay ).
Some friends of mine, who has more experience on protocol design,
adviceing me to passes all received packet from net cards through a
queue and modify IP and IPchain implementation to feet my application.
I will be very be happy if somebody give me some idea, and show me some
direction to do this work. I have also some question to ask:
1- what is the good way to this work and where should i start.
2- How could i develop this program and put it in kernel without
damaging or causing the kernel to crash.
3- Are there any tools in Linux that could already to this work ?
Thanks allot Peter
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