Linux-Misc Digest #355, Volume #27 Wed, 14 Mar 01 04:13:04 EST
Contents:
help!!!! how to boot from suse cd in rescue mode ("Wong Ching Kuen Frederick")
Re: RedHat RPM question (Michael Heiming)
Re: file permissions (Michael Heiming)
Re: what is libproc.so used for? (Michael Heiming)
Re: File synchronization solutions (Michael Heiming)
Re: Lilo Booting problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: suse and reiserfs (Michael Heiming)
Re: lost root passwd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
NYC LOCAL: GNUbies meet Wednesday 14 March 2001: Sulzberger on GNU Standard
Tarballs, the Debian package system, call with current continuation, and TCO/ROI of
small office lans ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: lost root passwd ("Eric")
novice: how to determine cpu, mem, disksize, ip-config ("Hubert Ming")
Re: novice: how to determine cpu, mem, disksize, ip-config ("Eric")
Re: accessing Linux KDE from Win98 ? (Chris Pitzel)
Re: novice: how to determine cpu, mem, disksize, ip-config (David)
Re: magicfilter vs apsfilter (Lew Pitcher)
Re: jpeg -> ps (Lew Pitcher)
Re: help!!!! how to boot from suse cd in rescue mode (Michael Heiming)
Re: help!!!! how to boot from suse cd in rescue mode (Michael Heiming)
Re: No swap being used ("Nils O. Sel�sdal")
Re: accessing Linux KDE from Win98 ? (Gerald Willmann)
Re: No swap being used ("Nils O. Sel�sdal")
Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (The_saint)
Re: help!!!! how to boot from suse cd in rescue mode (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen?= Leeb)
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From: "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help!!!! how to boot from suse cd in rescue mode
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:09:08 +0800
i accidentally remove /bin and now my system cannot boot. i try to build the
the rescue boot disk but it cannot boot. can i boot from the suse cd
(download from the ftp site) in rescue mode and copy back the /bin from
another suse 7.0 host?
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:33:23 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat RPM question
Londonboy wrote:
>
> I am running the RPM installation of Apache 1.3.14 on RedHat 7.0, for some
> reasons, I have to get additional support and most articles on the Internet
> said that I have to re-compile the source code.
>
> Detail: I need to connect PHP (from Linux) to MS SQL (on NT/w2000) under
> Apache, so I have to install the Sybase driver and everything has to get
> re-compiled as I was told.
>
> The problem:
> -------------
>
> I downloaded all the source code, and compiled it followed the instructions.
> Now, I found that the installation was TOTALLY different from RPM. for
> example, the Apache config file is located somewhere and it didn't install
> the service in /etc/init.d/httpd
>
> Even worst, I didn't even get it working. Got some error message in the log
> file.. still couldn't fix it. even lookup apache FAQ. (RPM was so much
> easier)
>
> Questions:
> -----------
>
> RPM supposes to make people's life easier, but feel like I don't have enough
> support. Everyone in these newsgroup or articles on the Internet tell me to
> re-compile the source code instead. Oh man... it is a pain. I am just a web
> designer trying to get a web server going. These stuffs wasted all my time.
>
> Why can't people just release some binary for RedHat, download it and plug
> and play? or have sort of install shield shit like Windows?
As you wrote, cause it's shit...
> Can anyone tell
> me why? Linux makes newbie's life difficult.
Honestly, Apache has tons of modules/options to get the latest and greates version
with all bells an whistles you need, recompiling from sources is most times strongly
recommended, because no rpm version is available.
Sure, it's sometimes difficult, but no one said that Linux would be easy, it's just
working as expected if you setup everything right...:-)
Try this compile guide, others are available (search google), read the README/INSTALL
files that come with all sources you need, if you still encouter problems, ask in the
proper ng, include what you want to achive, what you have (exactly) done and all error
messages you get, I'm sure someone will be able to help you.
http://www.delouw.ch/linux/apache.phtml
Good luck
Michael Heiming
>
> N.B.
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:49:51 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file permissions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> How do you prevent file ownership changing and group membership changing
> on a file when it is written to by someone other than the orginal writter.
> New person has permission to write from belonging to the group of the
> writer besides his own group. When he writes it changes the orginal
> ownership and group to new one and stops orginal writer from having access.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
Hello,
you set umask somewhere in /etc/profile to a proper value, that the file is group
writeable. But the file must have been group writeable before, or your "new person"
is root, as file perms have no exsistens for root, he should change the perms after
he changed the file or su to that user before.
Check
man umask
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:54:41 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what is libproc.so used for?
Ron Kellam wrote:
>
> The subject says it all.
>
> Replies by email too please.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ron Kellam
Utilities for monitoring your system and processes on your system.
Michael Heiming
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:01:27 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File synchronization solutions
Andre John Mas wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to find out what file synchronization (remote and local)
> solutions there around. I would also be interested in any, except
> for rsync that I know, are in the open source arena or that have
> API or protocol that I could use for creating a client.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andre
Hello,
for local you could just use cp.
for remote there is rdist which can run over ssh like rsync can,
Michael Heiming
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lilo Booting problem
Date: 14 Mar 2001 07:17:02 GMT
Bo Jacobsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have resently changed the motherboard on a Linux machine, but when I tried
> to boot the machine it only came as far as "LI" and froze.
This is usually due to the size of the harddisk or the root partition
over the 1024th cylinder. Try to add the option "linear" to the /etc/lilo.conf
See also man lilo.conf.
To boot your machine you will need a boot disk, then you must manually
mount your root partition.
Davide
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:17:34 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: suse and reiserfs
Wong Ching Kuen Frederick wrote:
>
> just want to know in what rpm is those reiserfs prog located in suse 7.0
IMHO reiserfs is in the kernel, but there should be additional filesystem tools,
put in distro CD1, start yast as root, there is an option somewhere in installation,
where you can query packets that are installed/not installed on your machine
but on the distro. This should give you some infos. Or try on CLI:
rpm -aq | grep reiser
Which only queries the installed packages.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lost root passwd
Date: 14 Mar 2001 07:19:53 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ah... Yes.. The joys of having a machine I dug out of the trash heap;
> an old DEC Celebris - locking case, good startup password protection,
<ZAP>
...and don't forget the angry dwarf with the sharp axe inside
the case... ;P
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: NYC LOCAL: GNUbies meet Wednesday 14 March 2001: Sulzberger on GNU Standard
Tarballs, the Debian package system, call with current continuation, and TCO/ROI of
small office lans
Date: 14 Mar 2001 02:36:15 -0500
This meeting is free and open to the public.
The meeting runs from 6:30 pm to 9:00 pm.
Thanks to support of CALC/Canterbury, the meeting is in their space at
780 Third Avenue between 48th and 49th Streets on the East Side of
Manhattan. Ask at the front desk for CALC/Canterbury, which is on
Concourse Level 1.
Times:
6:30 pm General Q&A
7:00 pm Jay Sulzberger will commence ranting
Subway stops:
IND E and F, the Lexington Avenue stop
IRT 6, the 51st Street stop
If you plan to attend, please visit the Beginners web page at
http://www.gnubies.org
and follow the attendance link so that we can arrange for the appropriate
amount of space.
Today there is no competent mass market small office lan product, neither a
source secret product nor a free software product. We will argue that the
correlation of forces favors free software in the coming drive to lower
Operating Costs and raise Return on Investment.
http://www.fsf.org
http://www.debian.org
http://rsync.samba.org
http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html
http://sicp.ai.mit.edu/Spring-2001
ftp://ftp.cs.utexas.edu/pub/garbage/cs345/schintro-v14/schintro_75.html#SEC82
ftp://ftp.cs.utexas.edu/pub/garbage/cs345/schintro-v14/schintro_141.html#SEC264
http://slashdot.org/interviews/01/03/13/1420210.shtml
http://hotwired.lycos.com/collections/connectivity/5.10_eli_noam1.html
http://www.anu.edu.au/mail-archives/link/link9708/0412.html
info tar
man apt-get
I will also install from scratch a Debian system in two different ways, one
of which requires exactly three keystrokes. The author of the three stroke
install utility will heckle throughout.
Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lost root passwd
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:36:28 +0100
> reboot, at lilo prompt type
> linux single rw init=/bin/bash
There's no point in putting single there, as that is processed by init.
You don't use init this way.
> just rebooting with linux 1 or linux single has never worked for me, I
> always get a login prompt. If the above or no one elses suggestions work,
The above will work (maybe change /bin/bash to /bin/sh)
Eric
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From: "Hubert Ming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: novice: how to determine cpu, mem, disksize, ip-config
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:36:46 +0100
dear lingurux
i've a couple of linux-boxes (with different os-versions) on which i should
determine the following specification:
cpu (pentium II/III mhz )
physical memory size
disks, disksize
ip-config (ip-addr, subnet, gateway, etc)
i'd like to use native linux-commands only, no tools. thanx alot
hubert
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: novice: how to determine cpu, mem, disksize, ip-config
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:45:59 +0100
> i've a couple of linux-boxes (with different os-versions) on which i
should
> determine the following specification:
>
> cpu (pentium II/III mhz )
> physical memory size
> disks, disksize
look in the /proc filesystem for these.
It's all there
> ip-config (ip-addr, subnet, gateway, etc)
ifconfig and route
Eric
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From: Chris Pitzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: accessing Linux KDE from Win98 ?
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:46:57 GMT
> I remember seeing some software program -- VML ?? that allowed a networked
> Windows client to access a virtual KDE desktop on a Linux server.
VNC is one such package. You can also obtain Xservers that run on Win9x
and WinNT which will do the job just fine. eXceed, Xwin32, among other
packages are available commercially.
Performance isn't the greatest in the world, but it will do the job.
You might also consider running something not quite as 'heavy' as KDE if
you need an X desktop on a MS Win32 machine.
> I am wondering a) what is this software, and where can I find it, and b) can
> a text based Linux server provide this support, or must the KDE desktop be
Yes. My Linux machine does not even have a video board in it anymore,
yet runs X programs for me all the time over the network.
> resident on Linux ?
The actual KDE program must be resident on Linux, as well as the
appropriate libraries. However, you do not need an Xserver installed or
running on the Linux box in order to run KDE or other X programs off
such machines.
You will, however, need an Xserver running on some machine in some form
or another generally. Thats where packages such as eXceed (very, very
good piece of software if your organization can afford it), Xwin32, and
others come in. Decently fast networks also help lots.
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: novice: how to determine cpu, mem, disksize, ip-config
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:05:11 GMT
Hubert Ming wrote:
>
> dear lingurux
> i've a couple of linux-boxes (with different os-versions) on which i should
> determine the following specification:
>
> cpu (pentium II/III mhz )
cat /proc/cpuinfo
> physical memory size
cat /proc/meminfo
> disks, disksize
# IDE
cat /proc/ide/hda/model # brand & model
df -h # partition sizes
# SCSI
cat /proc/scsi/scsi # brand & model
du -h # partition sizes
> ip-config (ip-addr, subnet, gateway, etc)
ifconfig
> i'd like to use native linux-commands only, no tools. thanx alot
> hubert
--
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Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.108% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: magicfilter vs apsfilter
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:16:53 -0500
max barwell wrote:
>
> i have lprng/magicfilter installed to handle printing, this combo works
> well for me but i have read alot of good stuff about apsfilter. i tried
> apsfilter but it did not work, i didnt look to far into why not, and went
> back to magicfilter. what are the pros and cons of these filters, i only
> print university assignments etc, nothing special. i have an hp deskjet
> 695c. cheers for any comments or recommendations.
Long ago, I used a version of apsfilter that came with Slackware v3.3,
and almost immediately switched to magicfilter. I have three printers
(an HP660C inkjet, an Epson LQ570 dot matrix, and an Olympia Electronic
Compact RO daisywheel) which magicfilter services easily. However,
apsfilter (the version that I used) only would service _one_ printer
(choose one at installation time), excluding the other two from it's
generated printcap file and filter programs.
I'm told that apsfilter now handles multiple printers. However, I'm
happy with magicfilter, and don't intend to change at this time.
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
Registered Linux User #112576
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: jpeg -> ps
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:41:33 -0500
Bob Tennent wrote:
>
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:56:56 -0330, Neil Zanella wrote:
> >
> >I find it fairly convenient. I would like
> >to know whether there is a tool under Linux for converting jpeg to ps so
> >that I nay print the pages on a postscript printer and obtain fairly
> >decent results.
>
> xv or any graphics viewer that prints will likely export in PS format.
XV _can_ save to Postscript format
You should also be able to do this with a pipeline like...
djpeg -pnm file.jpeg | pnmtops >file.ps
> Bob T.
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
Registered Linux User #112576
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:22:27 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help!!!! how to boot from suse cd in rescue mode
Wong Ching Kuen Frederick wrote:
>
> i accidentally remove /bin and now my system cannot boot. i try to build the
> the rescue boot disk but it cannot boot.
Why? Did you follow the instructions in the SUSE book that explain howto do
this, the book is on the first distro CD too, always a good idea to actualy
buy the distro, as you get the book & CDs & floppys in a nice package...
> can i boot from the suse cd
> (download from the ftp site) in rescue mode and copy back the /bin from
> another suse 7.0 host?
sure you can, if you manage to create a bootable CD-ROM and set your BIOS to
boot from CD before using disk.
Use CD1, type manual on lilo boot prompt, start yast to load network modules
automagically, and scp the directory and its contents your missing from the
other machine, if setup is not that different, chances are good to get your system
back to a working state.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:24:18 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help!!!! how to boot from suse cd in rescue mode
Wong Ching Kuen Frederick wrote:
>
> i accidentally remove /bin and now my system cannot boot. i try to build the
> the rescue boot disk but it cannot boot.
Why? Did you follow the instructions in the SUSE book that explain howto do
this, the book is on the first distro CD too, always a good idea to actualy
buy the distro, as you get the book & CDs & floppys in a nice package...
> can i boot from the suse cd
> (download from the ftp site) in rescue mode and copy back the /bin from
> another suse 7.0 host?
sure you can, if you manage to create a bootable CD-ROM and set your BIOS to
boot from CD before using disk.
Use CD1, type manual on lilo boot prompt, start yast to load network modules
automagically, and scp the directory and its contents your missing from the
other machine, if setup is not that different, chances are good to get your system
back to a working state.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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Reply-To: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No swap being used
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:27:57 +0100
"Martin Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:98krou$1i5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I've just noticed that according to "top" although I have 136512k
allocated
> as swap
> 0k is in use.
>
> Is this normal?
Yes, if you have lots of ram.. or dont run heavy programs..
the lesser swap you use the better!
You want to run programs from your ram not from your harddisk-> SLOW!
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: accessing Linux KDE from Win98 ?
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:20:42 +0100
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Chris Pitzel wrote:
> Performance isn't the greatest in the world, but it will do the job.
> You might also consider running something not quite as 'heavy' as KDE if
> you need an X desktop on a MS Win32 machine.
I agree that KDE is too heavy in general but what difference does it make
here since it will be running on the other machine.
> The actual KDE program must be resident on Linux, as well as the
> appropriate libraries. However, you do not need an Xserver installed or
> running on the Linux box in order to run KDE or other X programs off
> such machines.
well, you'll need the X libraries so you might as well install the whole X
package.
> You will, however, need an Xserver running on some machine in some form
> or another generally. Thats where packages such as eXceed (very, very
> good piece of software if your organization can afford it), Xwin32, and
> others come in. Decently fast networks also help lots.
eXceed very, very good? Have never tried it since it's price performance
ratio must be infinitely worse than XFree86 which runs just fine on any
Intel box as long as you install linux.
And that's what this ng is supposed to be about.
Seems to degenerate into some tech support for new linux server admins who
don't even want to work on a linux machine. Well, they don't even seem
to have the slightest idea what X can do in sharp contrast to M$ windows
(does anyone know why the latter is called windows at all ??).
sorry for the rant, Gerald
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Reply-To: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No swap being used
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:31:20 +0100
"Paul Kimoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> > Paul Kimoto wrote:
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> >>> kflushd
> >>> kupdate
> >>> kpiod
> >>> kswapd (I am kind-of suprised that this is allowed to swap out)
>
> >> These are parts of the kernel, not separate programs, and as such
> >> they are never swapped out. (Their entries in /proc report no
> >> virtual-memory statistics.)
>
> > Since each of these has a process-id, I do not see how you can say
> > they are part of the kernel; this is not a Microsoft system. top,
> > pstree, and ps report them all as though they were processes. Those
> > tools that list their swap status list them as swapped.
> >
> > Are you saying that all these tools are wrong by listing them as
> > separate processes? How did they fabricate process identifiers?
>
> No, the tools are not wrong, but there are no executables there (try to
> find them on your system!). The _Unix system administration handbook_
> (3rd edition) explains:
These are threads, threads in linux is implemented by processes.
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From: The_saint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:55:05 +0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Opera is now free, I believe.
>
>
Yes, but spyware or ad-ware, I believe :-)
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen?= Leeb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help!!!! how to boot from suse cd in rescue mode
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:04:20 +0100
Don' t use a disk.
boot from your second suse cdrom (the one with yast1). There must be a
menu for starting a rescue system. If you do this, yast ask you about
the location. use from cdrom.
Wong Ching Kuen Frederick schrieb:
>
> i accidentally remove /bin and now my system cannot boot. i try to build the
> the rescue boot disk but it cannot boot. can i boot from the suse cd
> (download from the ftp site) in rescue mode and copy back the /bin from
> another suse 7.0 host?
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