Linux-Misc Digest #772, Volume #26               Wed, 10 Jan 01 15:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Need help with process switching ("Chip Piller")
  Netscape 6 install probs (Rich Birch)
  Re: CDs play mono with SB16 and ALSA 0.5.10 -- OSS/Free fine (DualIP)
  setup News server (Beggar)
  Re: which mail server for linux? (David)
  Re: Simple Firewall (Robert Lynch)
  how can i stop a "subject" spam ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: HELP! : mysterious ext2 undeletable directory (Robert Lynch)
  Re: setup News server ("Ian Jones")
  Re: How to print? (Andr�)
  Re: setup News server (Beggar)
  Re: SCAM ALERT!  ===>  Re: $$$ MAKE A LOT OF MONEY EASY $$$ (Scott Alfter)
  Re: setup News server ("Jason from The Workshop")
  Re: Tips from Compaq/Linux users? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Enter escape charcter in vi or another editor (Scott Alfter)
  [OT] - AntiTrust comes out this Friday! ("tim")
  Re: Problems installing updates (Don)
  Re: Any way to get a Linux system to do PPPOE? (Rod Smith)
  Re: HELP newbie: which distro for low-end PC? (Rod Smith)

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From: "Chip Piller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help with process switching
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:14:19 -0500

I am not aware of a way to do exactly what you want.  Using the fg, bg,
jobs, %n commands inside a bash session will work, but the job is stopped
when put in the background and the jobs terminate when you log out of that
bash session.
Running the process in the background using & starts the process which
continues to run even after you log out.  If the process is a server then
there might be a way for you to connect to it to do what you want, you will
have to look at the documentation.
I do know of a way that might work for you though.  You can use the VNC
program, or perhaps something similar.  The way it works is this, you start
a vncserver process on your server.  The server does not need to be running
X.  Then from another machine you run the vncviewer program which connects
you to your vncserver.  Inside your vncviewer shell/window you start your
process in the foreground.  You can use interact with the process, use your
mouse, whatever.  Then you can log out of the vncviewer, and the process
continues to run remotely on the vncserver.  You can go to another machine,
log in, check on the running process, make adjustments, log out, etc.  The
address is www.uk.research.att.com/vnc

If you want to have a process get started when your computer is booted you
can add a line at the end of your /etc/rc.d/rc.local script.  This script
gets run after the other system init stuff.  Make sure that the local
service for your default runlevel gets started when you boot.
Hope this helps,
Chip

"Innocence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi
>
> I've read several FAQ's and Newbie guides, and searched the web for an
> answer, but alas I couldn't find one. Hopefully this will be an easy
> one for the Linux experts present.
>
> I'm trying to configure a Linux RedHat 7.0 server to be used for
> running a CounterStrike gameserver.
>
> Linux is up and running in text-mode just like I want it (don't want a
> GUI hogging the resources). I need to be able to administer the server
> remotely, and my Telnet, FTP, and WebMin connections are running fine
> as well.
>
> The gameserver itself (HLDS) is a process you simply start and then
> forget about, unless you want to issue commands to it, reload a map
> etc. I start it with: nohup hlds &
> This runs it as a background task and makes sure it keeps running when
> I log off the terminal. So far so good.
>
> My problems are related to process switching:
> Bringing the process back to foreground:
> When I log back in later I'm unable to bring the gameserver process to
> the foreground again. I tried the 'fg' command, but can't make it
> work. It demands a job_number, but 'ps' only gives me the PID and
> 'jobs' lists nothing. I read somewhere that I need to use the same tty
> session that started the job, but how is that possible? I can't just
> kill the server and start a new one - there must be a way to do this.
>
> Putting the process to the background:
> The only information I can find on this states using Ctrl-z. However
> this also stops the process and thus the server - not good. Isn't
> there a way to put the process back in the background without stopping
> it? Seems weird.
>
> Oh, one more thing: In case of power failure the server restarts
> itself. Where do I put the command to make sure the gameserver also
> starts up on it's own?
>
> Hope someone here can help :)
>
> Sincerely,
>
> 0:) Innocence



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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 03:16:36 +0000
From: Rich Birch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape 6 install probs

After finally downloading ns6 sucessfully I now find it won't install.
The graphical
installation prog reports sucess, but the text outputted to the console
reads:

...
*** QfaServices is being registered
*** Deferring registration of sample JS components
************************************************************
* Call to xpconnect wrapped JSObject produced this error:  *
[Exception... "Factory not registered (may be tried again)
[nsIModule::registerSelf]"
nsresult: "0x80040155 (NS_ERROR_FACTORY_REGISTER_AGAIN)"  location:
"<unknown>"  data: no]
************************************************************
-*- filepicker: registering (all right -- a JavaScript module!)
*** Registering sample JS components
/usr/local/netscape/run-mozilla.sh: line 29:  6361 Segmentation
fault      $prog
${1+"$@"}
...

I'm running Redhat 7.0. Does anyone know how to fix this, or even if
it's worth the
upgrade from 4.75?!

Cheers
Rich


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DualIP)
Subject: Re: CDs play mono with SB16 and ALSA 0.5.10 -- OSS/Free fine
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:31:18 GMT

On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 20:05:53 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin E Cosgrove)
wrote:

>Does anyone have a SoundBlaster 16 card setup which correctly
>plays music CDs?  

If you mean CD-DA playback , I guess your problem is in the audio
cable linking the CD-ROM and the SB16.
AFAIK the SB16 has no way to turn stereo CDin into mono out

DualIP

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From: Beggar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: setup News server
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 01:44:23 +0800

Hi all,

How can I setup a News without a feeder server? Since when I check the
howto, it always said we need a feeder but my ISP don't have a news
server itself.

please cc reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks~

Hei


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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which mail server for linux?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:46:30 GMT

TM wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> what are the mail servers available for the linux platform. Either
> IMAP or POP.


 http://www.qmail.org/

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 98.992% of seti users. +/- 0.01%

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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Simple Firewall
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:28:04 GMT

Noname wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I'll try that out.
> 
> In article <93g4v4$77b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "dom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Try Firestarter
> >
> > http://firestarter.sourceforge.net
> >
> > so easy to set up and use it should be illegal ;-)
> 
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/

Just to mention, this doesn't meet your requirements I think, but
for many of us with just a dial-up connection who are now running
a 2.4.0 kernel, the combo of iptables and the script at:

http://netfilter.kernelnotes.org/unreliable-guides/packet-filtering-HOWTO-5.html

is very easy to set up, just call the script from
/etc/rc.d/rc.local and shazam!

Firewall.

FWIW. Bob L.
-- 
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: how can i stop a "subject" spam
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:23:35 GMT

Hi,
I keep getting "Super Sex Pill" spams and from different addresses so I
can't just knock out their domain in my /etc/mail/access list.  I want
to get rid of all email that has a subject header "sex" in it.  Does
anyone know how i can do this?  I'm running the latest sendmail on suse
6.3 (kernel 2.2.13)

thanks,
John


Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/

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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HELP! : mysterious ext2 undeletable directory
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:35:28 GMT

aflinsch wrote:
> 
> Robert Lynch wrote:
> >
> > Dorin Ioan MARINCA wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I need help for the following problem:
> > >
> > > Context: RH 6.2 original kernel
> > > First symptom: ext2 root filesystem full.
> > > I have searched for a big file (+10M).
> > > Result: a (mysterious) junkbuster (web browsing filter) log directory:
> > > /var/log/junkbuster : size +11M
> > > 'drwxr--r-- 2 73 73 11067392 Jan 8 14:04 junkbuster'
> > > the directory and not the contents!!!
> > > a 'ls' inside blocks...
> > > a '# rm -rf /var/log/junkbuster' run in a infinite loop.
> > >
> > > How can I remove this file?
> > >
> > > I have tried (forced) fsck without results. No bad blocks also...
> > >
> > > Thanks for any sugestions...
> > >
> > > d.i.m.
> >
> > I had this problem, which I decided was due to junkbuster's
> > logrotate being wonky. I filed a bug report at the junkbuster
> > site, which was never answered.
> >
> > When I looked inside the directory (not easy!) I found that it
> > was a jungle logrotate .gz's, like:
> >
> > junkbuster.1.gz.3.gz.1.gz...
> 
> I had the same problem, it was about a year ago. I think that the
> logrotate entry has been fixed, as I have reinstalled & updated
> several times since then and nolonger have the problem
> 
> >
> > I wish I could give you some hints, but the delete of this
> > monster was a nightmare, for example, doing some step on the way
> > to delete I hung my system after which I had to boot with a
> > recovery disk and my recall of what I did is dim.
> >
> 
> My favorite method of deleting all entries in a directory (when the
> number of entries is very large) is
> 
> tar cfv /dev/null /path/of/directory/to/empty --remove-files >
> /dev/null
> 
> and then just rmdir the directory if required....

This looks like a good trick; I did something like this myself,
but wound up thereby hanging my system.  Some time spent with
Tom's root-boot disk saved the day however.  I wish my notes were
a little more coherent so I could say what actually _did_ work
with the root-boot.

Bob L.
-- 
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Ian Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: setup News server
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:45:15 GMT

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"Beggar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all,
>
> How can I setup a News without a feeder server? Since when I check
> the howto, it always said we need a feeder but my ISP don't have a
> news server itself.

Try out leafnode. It is very easy to set up, and it will only cache
groups that you are actually reading.
http://www.leafnode.org/


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From: Andr� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to print?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:58:24 -0200

> [Author: Lew Pitcher
> [Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:08:07 GMT
>
>On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:33:41 -0200, Andr� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>I have a printer connected to lp0. When I try
>>
>># echo "TEST" > /dev/lp0
>>
>>it hangs. It does print but it looks like if it was printing. I really
>>need to make my linux print. Any ideas?
>
>Although direct writing to /dev/lp0 is one way to print, it's not the
>best way. You want to install and configure one of the lineprinting
>tools, such as 'lpr/lpd', 'lprNG', or 'CUPS'. You'll also probably
>want to install a print filter tool, such as 'apsfilter' or
>'magicfilter'.

Yes, but I would like to be sure that my printer is recieving data, so I
wanted to make the simplest test.

I tried apsfilter (I currently using Slackware) but the result is the
same: it just says "Printing..." and stands there forever.
-- 

� Andr� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Beggar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: setup News server
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:05:55 +0800

but how a ISP setup a news server? where they feed from?
or is that inn can have no feeder at all?

thanks~~

Ian Jones wrote:

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> "Beggar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > How can I setup a News without a feeder server? Since when I check
> > the howto, it always said we need a feeder but my ISP don't have a
> > news server itself.
>
> Try out leafnode. It is very easy to set up, and it will only cache
> groups that you are actually reading.
> http://www.leafnode.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: SCAM ALERT!  ===>  Re: $$$ MAKE A LOT OF MONEY EASY $$$
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:26:07 -0000

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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jean-David Beyer  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Well, I have complained to his ISP each time one of these spams comes
>up. And he spams them to comp.mail.sendmail as well, so I complain to
>his ISP about those, too. His isp does not seem to take this spamming
>seriously. They send me a polite form letter in both English and French
>saying they will take care of it. But they do not. So I started sending
>my complaints to the next level above his ISP. They may have to cut off
>the spammers ISP from the Internet to get their attention.

I ran across one of these (many) messages in comp.sys.apple2.programmer, and
I've seen the subject in nearly every newsgroup I follow.  You're correct in
that TotalNet doesn't appear to give a sh*t about spammers, and Hotmail said
that the email address given by the poster was fake.  If you decode the
message and run it through Lynx, a link to a website called mobydicks.com
appears; it appears to be a literary website of some kind.  I fired off a
spam alert to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; maybe they can do something (like quit
hosting the page with the make-money-fast scan).

  _/_
 / v \
(IIGS(  Scott Alfter (remove Voyager's hull number for email address)
 \_^_/  http://salfter.dyndns.org
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From: "Jason from The Workshop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: setup News server
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:24:38 -0600

you can setup a news server yourself, but be warned.  A decent news server
is going to eat up no less then a full T1 and almost 400gig of space.  I
would suggest using www.supernews.com   they have very nice, full feeds and
they are cheap.


--

                    Jason
    www.cyborgworkshop.com
...and the geek shall inherit the earth...



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tips from Compaq/Linux users?
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.suse
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:40:39 GMT

I artikeln <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev "net name"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Just got done reading a rather lengthy thread on the troubles people
> have using other than OEM os's with compaqs. I know compaq is a junk
> machine, especially the presarios, but I am stuck with mine for now.

I've got an even older Compaq (DeskPro XL466) and RH6.2 installed without
any hazzle whatsoever. Too undespeced machine for a GUI, but in text mode
it runs like a charm!

/Mats

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Enter escape charcter in vi or another editor
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:37:14 -0000

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In article <93dtvl$733$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bill M Leagans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How do you enter special charactes in vi or another editor such as ASCII
>code 27 (escape).

I don't know about vi (I only use it when there's no other editor, as it's
rather cumbersome to use), but it's fairly easy in joe.  Press ` and then
whatever character you want to add.  If it's an ASCII character (0-127), you can
enter it at the keyboard (`-Esc to add Esc, `-Return to add ^M, `-H to add
^H, etc.).  If it's a high-bit character (128-255), you can enter it as a
decimal, octal, or hexadecimal code (`-x80 to enter � (euro symbol), or
`-xfc to enter �, as in "fukengr�ven" :-) ).

  _/_
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From: "tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,rec.arts.movies.current-films
Subject: [OT] - AntiTrust comes out this Friday!
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:45:26 -0900

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0218817

Looks to be a hot movie, especially for Linux afficionados!



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From: Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Problems installing updates
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:57:53 -0500



David wrote:

> Don wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have RedHat 6.2 installed (everything was installed) and I'm trying to
> > install the security and bug fixes.  After d/l the RPM and isssuing a
> > "rpm -Uvh <rpm module>", I keep getting this error message:
> >
> > error: <rpm module> cannot be installed
> >
> > Does anyone know what this means?
>
> Did you upgrade the rpm package to 3.0.5-9.6x ?

How do I do that?  They are RPM's and I can't upgrade because I get the same
error message.

Catch-22


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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Any way to get a Linux system to do PPPOE?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:03:32 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <wpL66.31$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin McCormick) writes:
> 
>       I will be putting a Linux box on a line connected to a DSL
> protocol converter and our ISP, who is SWBell.net uses PPPOE to
> authenticate systems going on line.  Of course there is a PPPOE client
> for Windows, but do I have any chance of getting the Linux box to log
> in?

There are several PPPoE clients for Linux. The most popular seems to be
Roaring Penguin. I've got links to several of these tools at
http://www.rodsbooks.com/network/network-dsl.html.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: HELP newbie: which distro for low-end PC?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:04:47 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Alessandro Magni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I want to set up a minimal Linux PC (low-end Pentium), to use  as  a 
> backup server.
> No fancy stuff, no X, just network and some backup util (rsync maybe).
> I DONT want to download a huge 5-CD-set with useless stuff:
> which distro you think is OK?

For my comments on several distributions (albeit not geared towards
low-end use like you describe), see:

http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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