Linux-Misc Digest #854, Volume #26 Fri, 19 Jan 01 02:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task! (Steve)
Re: audio tape to mp3 (Sinner from the Prairy)
pine4 + debian ("Michal Kolesar")
Installing 2.4.0 kernel.. (Ish Rattan)
AVA-1502AE, Software interrupt lost (henk van der knaap)
Re: Xemacs auto indentation? (Graham Wilson)
Re: why can't i find any good GUI file managers? (Graham Wilson)
Re: The Future of Corel Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: dmesg (Graham Wilson)
Re: The Future of Corel Linux (John Hasler)
Re: Linux not free anymore? ("JerzyK")
Re: Installing 2.4.0 kernel.. (Daniel Schroeter)
freaky netscape stuff ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Installing 2.4.0 kernel.. (Jeff Strunk)
woody, reiserfs, and kernel compilation (Jeff Strunk)
Re: Bios upgrade in linux ("muzh")
Re: freaky netscape stuff (Alex)
Re: Sound Blaster PRO slow sound (Ken)
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From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:54:10 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Uh oh, I got a blue screen under Linux, it was black! I think it's some kind
> of hardware problem, since it happens both with Debian Linux 2.2 and with
> SuSE linux 6.4.
> Under Debian I get the message as stated below, SuSE doesn't
> say a thing and just hangs. It hangs very often (I rarely shut down in the
> normal way anymore). If my kernel panics, so do I! :-) Anyone wants to take a
> look at this? I have no idea where to look, and I wasn't able to isolate the
> problem so far. After taking out the ISDN, network or SCSI card, the problem
> still arises. Often (not always) when it hangs, the hdd light keeps burning.
> I thought it may have to do with the hard disk, so I turned off the
> auto-power-off in the BIOS setup. No effect. Bought new CPU fan, same thing.
> Debian and SuSE each use their own hdd. If someone could at least tell me
> what device causes it, I would be helped.
I can't help with the dump, but I can tell you that when my machine
was randomly crashing, I got memtest86, and sure enough, one of my
SDRAMs was bad.
--
Steve Ackman
Glass Host, Arts & Crafts http://www.delphi.com/crafts
Metamorphosis Glassworks Page http://twovoyagers.com/metamorphosis
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From: Sinner from the Prairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: audio tape to mp3
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:05:42 +0000
Alessandro Magni wrote:
> I want to convert my collection of audiotapes into mp3 CDs.
> After equipping myself with wavrec, lame, etc... I suddenly realized the
> biggest problems:
> > How can I automagically recognize when one song ends and another begins? <
How do you plan to do it?
I also have a collection of audio tapes and I've always wondered if I
could ever turn them into digital format (mp3/CDA...)
Please, let me know so I can do it myself!
Thanks in advance,
Salut,
Sinner
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From: "Michal Kolesar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pine4 + debian
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:07:52 +0100
Hello!
I have potato and try to install pine4.
I installed pine4-src and pine4-diffs and than
continuing from /usr/src/pine4/README...
and when I compiling i get error:
cc -O2 -g -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -c -o os.o os.c
os.c: In function `fget_pos':
os.c:1122: conversion to non-scalar type requested
os.c:1123: invalid operands to binary ==
os.c: In function `fset_pos':
os.c:1133: incompatible type for argument 2 of `fseek'
make: *** [os.o] Error 1
2 root@server:pine#
--
S pozdravem,
Michal Kolesar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.egarden.cz
server of free unix services
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From: Ish Rattan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing 2.4.0 kernel..
Date: 18 Jan 2001 23:37:44 -0500
Hello,
I am running RedHat-6.2 (kernel 2.16.3). I downloaded the 2.4.0
kernel sources. It compiled after configuration. Now, `make modules_install'
results in a /lib/modules/2.4.0 that contains entries
build (link to /usr/src/linux)
kernel
modules.dep (0 byte file)
pcmcia
Is it the right behavior? If I check against 2.2.16-3 the results
are different..
Any pointers?
- ishwar
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: henk van der knaap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AVA-1502AE, Software interrupt lost
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:13:17 +1300
Dear readers,
I have installed an AVA-1502AE SCSI Host Adapter card. This card works
beautifully on my 486 computer with the following kernel, (using modules):
Linux version 2.2.17pre6 (root@henk) (gcc version 2.95.2 20000220 (Debian
GNU/Linux)) #4 Mon Jan 1 23:54:49 NZDT 2001
However on my pentium I get the following distressing message (with the
same kernel version):
aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s)
aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x140, IRQ=10, SCSI ID=7,
reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100,
extended translation=disabled
aha152x: trying software interrupt, lost.
aha152x: IRQ 10 possibly wrong. Please verify.
scsi : 0 hosts.
I have seen other people reporting this problem, but nowhere I have found
a solution. Yes, it all works under Windows95.
Any thought would be very much appreciated.
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I am happily using Debian 2.2 Linux as my operating system.
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Henk van der Knaap,
New Zealand
My e-mail address is as follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Graham Wilson <graham01~[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xemacs auto indentation?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:13:33 -0800
Eric wrote:
>
> Whenever I type a {, Xemacs autoindents it such that
>
> if ($x > 0)
> {
>
> Becomes
>
> if ($x > 0)
> {
>
> I don't want this. How do I turn it off?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
I spent quite a few hours trying to figure this out. I know the
syntactic symbol is substatement-open, and you should be able to modify
it in ~/.emacs with something like (c-set-offset (substatement-open .
0)), but nothing I did made it work. I tried the Customization buffer,
too.
Check the emacs info docs under Custom C Indent, and if you figure out
how to do it, please post the details. I just decided that I kind of
liked it that way, after all :) G.
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From: Graham Wilson <graham01~[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: why can't i find any good GUI file managers?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:26:14 -0800
Anurodh Pokharel wrote:
>
> i use linux with window maker as the primary OS on my system.
> But for some reason, i cant find any file managers that i could use with
> eas for ordinary stuff that you day to day. i dunno it might just be me
> but i toyed around with stuff on
> freshmeat and a search in google but nothing is fast nor easy to use.
> there are so many but often it happens to be either slow or just very
> user unfriendly. I hate to say it but i am beginning to appreciate that
> old win95 explorer more and more right now. But that can't be true
> there's gotta be something out there.
> My system is PII 266 with 32 MB RAM. I use Linux with only the stuff i
> need and want becaue it is fast and the general trend with everything is
> that the linux counter part is
> faster and more reliable than that on windows
> and i'd really hate to go back to that monster.
> Can someone point me in the right direction on this..
> thanks
> -Anurodh
I use wmaker without KDE or Gnome and I find midnight commander to be
more than adequate (by far). It is highly configurable, and when I am
root in a console, I still remember how to use it. I'm not looking any
further. G.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The Future of Corel Linux
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 05:39:25 GMT
Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Steve J. Planck" wrote:
> > Hey everyone,
> > I heard today that Corel Linux 1.2 was the last release Corel plans to make
> > of their Linux distribution. Anyone have any information about whether or
> > not this is the case? I installed 1.2 yesterday on another machine and I was
> > very impressed with everything about it.. I would like to run it fulltime,
> > but I want to make sure it isn't going to just be a dead end..
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any information..
>
> No Linux is ever a dead end. You can upgrade almost any distribution as
> much as you like as long as you are prepared to understand the
> differences between your system's layout (directories, any utility
> scripts) as compared to another you might want to settle on as a
> benchmark.
No, I disagree. Someone that installed Yggdrasil "Plug'n'Pray Linux"
almost certainly has had to install something newer _from scratch_ at
a more recent date.
Upgrading from AOUT systems to use ELF pretty much mandated a
reinstall from scratch for other than the most hardened of "Linux
wizards."
> Corel is based on Debian. OK....so watch where Debian goes. When an
> application that runs on Debian catches up with your Corel
> equivalent....move to it. You can evolve your system into being
> closer to a surviving distribution if you want to make that effort.
>
> Kernel upgrades and library upgrades may break your Corel-authored
> software eventually...but that is true of any version of Linux - or
> any OS for that matter.
At some point, it's liable to be simpler to do a reinstall than an
upgrade, when the set of things that break and need to be remedied get
extensive enough.
> It's a shame that Corel v1.0 insisted on using the entire disk with
> no alternative....I might still be using it. That file manager /
> network browser was way out in front. Plus Corel wrote apps for the
> platform....but not ones people wanted to buy. They had already
> settled on Star Office or MS Office running via Win4Lin / WINE /
> VMware.
> It was always a gamble for Corel. It's shame it didn't pay off. I
> think they were ahead of their time rather than having gone a
> (software) bridge too far.
Corel had a "strategic challenge" in that the money flows reportedly
depended _heavily_ on huge long-term licensing agreements for
WordPerfect with the Canadian government that were signed when the
Conservative Party was in power. [There was such _spectacular_ hatred
for Prime Minister Brian Mulroney that, in the next election, the
Conservatives went from having a powerful majority to being two seats
away from being _utterly eradicated_ from the legislature. He
apparently then moved to the United States, although there are also
recent reports that he's now commuting between NYC and Montreal as
Chairman of Forbes Global Business & Finance...]
The Liberals, who have been in power ever since, have, presumably with
considerable spite involved, given subsequent contracts to Microsoft.
There lies a _HUGE_ monkey on Corel's back to try to overcome.
They then seemed to assume that The Way To Viability was to help
sponsor development of WINE, and that this would somehow lead to them
becoming a powerhouse software house ready to help everyone port their
Windows apps over to Linux.
In their expectation that this would give them a "stranglehold" over
some aspect of Linux, they neglected to realize that much of the
reason why Linux had grown popular was the absolute _LACK_ of
"strangleholds."
--
(concatenate 'string "aa454" "@freenet.carleton.ca")
http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/internet.html
Signs of a Klingon Programmer #1: "Our users will know fear and cower
before our software. Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs
they are!"
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From: Graham Wilson <graham01~[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dmesg
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:37:45 -0800
Harry wrote:
>
> Can anyone point me to a document that describes the linux boot
> process in detail (ie a work through the lines of dmesg, I suppose)?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Harry
There's a HOWTO called From-Boot-To-Bash-Prompt, or something similar.
G.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Future of Corel Linux
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 04:51:12 GMT
Andrew Purugganan writes:
> I have COREL Second Edition (the CD that came off a UK Linux rag). What's
> keeping me from upgrading to the 2.4 kernel is that COREL put in some
> [proprietary?] module that recognizes my PCtel modem. I guess I'll have
> to wait till the Third Edition;
Don't delude yourself into believing that your kernel will only work will
Corel 2nd Edition just because that is what it came with. The kernel and
the distribution are not tied together. I would be extremely surprised if
Debian 2.2 would not work just fine with your Corel kernel.
In any case, according to the 2.4 source, a driver for your modem is
available at the CMI site.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: "JerzyK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux not free anymore?
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:30:01 +0100
> > On 18 Jan 2001 00:59:22 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
wrote:
> > >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rafael - LumesITSupport
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > >] First when I get info about it I did not believed. But it
> > >] seems to be true in Poland.
> > >] Tax offices trying to find money or paid by Microsoft :)
> > >] started to put tax from Linux. Thus if you have company
> > >] you have to pay tax if you have Linux, the level of the
> > >] tax is the same like from Windows NT Server. It is against
> > >] low and our Worldwide Linux community have to do something
> > >] with it. Please do something to not spread it to more
> > >] countries.
>
> > > On what basis do they tax it? (...)
I've just joined the list, so maybe the answer was already posted, but
the "logic" is this:
1. By getting Linux free of charge, you are getting something of
value.
2. This value is your (or your company's) income. It is sort of like
to getting a sum of money in order to buy an equivalent product.
3. This sum of money would be your income, so you are going to be
taxed on your Linux "income" respectively.
4. Now, for the best part: what is Linux equivalent to value-wise? Win
NT/2000 Server!
All the above garbled logic comes from a clear thinking: if you are
reporting getting things free, you are clearly trying to cheat the Tax
Office.
Best regards to the Open Source community
Jerzy Kuszel,
Greedy Poland
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:38:31 +0100
From: Daniel Schroeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing 2.4.0 kernel..
hi,
maybe you have no modules configured in the kernel?
(did you 'make modules' ?)
CU
Ish Rattan wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am running RedHat-6.2 (kernel 2.16.3). I downloaded the 2.4.0
> kernel sources. It compiled after configuration. Now, `make modules_install'
> results in a /lib/modules/2.4.0 that contains entries
>
> build (link to /usr/src/linux)
> kernel
> modules.dep (0 byte file)
> pcmcia
>
> Is it the right behavior? If I check against 2.2.16-3 the results
> are different..
>
> Any pointers?
>
> - ishwar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: freaky netscape stuff
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:28:15 GMT
Hi,
when I sit at Linux Box A and 'ssh' to Linux Box B and start
netscape-navigator from the command line, it gives me a few surprises:
a) it can access files on A
b) it saves files to A
This must be a security bug, since one would assume that running an
application on B would not give it write permissions on A.
Wroot
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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From: Jeff Strunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing 2.4.0 kernel..
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:49:04 +0000
the module format changed, you need to get modutils >=2.4.0
everything you need to update is listed in Documents/CHANGES
hope I helped,
Jeff
On 18 Jan 2001 23:37:44 -0500
Ish Rattan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am running RedHat-6.2 (kernel 2.16.3). I downloaded the 2.4.0
> kernel sources. It compiled after configuration. Now, `make modules_install'
> results in a /lib/modules/2.4.0 that contains entries
>
> build (link to /usr/src/linux)
> kernel
> modules.dep (0 byte file)
> pcmcia
>
> Is it the right behavior? If I check against 2.2.16-3 the results
> are different..
>
> Any pointers?
>
> - ishwar
>
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From: Jeff Strunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: woody, reiserfs, and kernel compilation
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:53:06 +0000
hi everybody,
I am having a lot of trouble compiling a custom kernel. I just completely
redid my
system yesterday, with reiserfs and woody. So, I have all of the necesarry
versions of what is required to compile 2.4.0. I patched the kernel source
that i got from kernel.org to support reiserfs. Then i did the usual make
menuconfig, dep , etc. During make bzImage, there seem to be errors that
stop compilation in random places(I never get the same error). sometimes
there where assembler errors. After many tries of downloading patching and
compiling, I decided I'd try plain 386 instead of k6-2, k6-3. it still
didn't work. I tried 2.2.18 and applied the proper reiserfs patch and had
the same problems. Has anybody else had these problems or seen something similar?
Thanks,
Jeff
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From: "muzh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bios upgrade in linux
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:00:03 +1300
Try www.bootdisk.com
You should be able to find something there that you can dd to a floppy,
then use as your bios updater.
Hope this helps --
Recently, the keys of "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 's computer
randomly danced and produced <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :
> Warren Bell wrote:
>>
>> I want to upgrade my bios on a machine that's just running Linux. The
>> MB company has the flash utility and the .bin file but the utility is
>> an
>> .exe file. How do I boot to and run that to upgrade the bios under
>> Linux?
>
> Boot with a windoz/DOS boot disk and run it from the command line should
> work if the upgrade files will fit on a floppy.
>
--
Never trust a man in a suit
cll
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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: freaky netscape stuff
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 02:07:42 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> when I sit at Linux Box A and 'ssh' to Linux Box B and start
> netscape-navigator from the command line, it gives me a few surprises:
>
> a) it can access files on A
> b) it saves files to A
>
> This must be a security bug, since one would assume that running an
> application on B would not give it write permissions on A.
>
When you start ssh and run program using that ssh connection, you are
actually running programs on A machine. It does not matter what program
you run. Infact, if I run telnet or rlogin from machine A to machine B,
I can use the CD writer and burn CD on machine B while I am sitting in
from of machine A.
Sincerely.
Alex.
> Wroot
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster PRO slow sound
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:11:57 +1300
In comp.os.linux.hardware Migue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a Sound Blaster PRO card ISA , it's correctly configured but the
> sound is slow.
If you are playing 16 bit data samples this could be the problem
as the SB pro is only plays 8 bit data.
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