Linux-Misc Digest #854, Volume #27 Mon, 14 May 01 11:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Recommendation for GUI e-mail client? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Linux in college & high school ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: date/year change on Linux (Carl Fink)
Re: Recommendation for GUI e-mail client? (steve)
updating RH from hard drive (KCmaniac)
Interested listening to an interview with the creator of LINUX? ("Samantha Brown")
Compile GCC 2.95.3 in RedHat 7.0 failed !! ("Eric Chow")
Re: How to auto start xscreensaver daemon when X & Window Maker starts ? (Frank Hahn)
Re: How to auto start xscreensaver daemon when X & Window Maker starts ?
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: date/year change on Linux (Professor J Frink)
Re: Failed to setup FTP Server in RedHat 7.1 (Christian Rose)
passwd file locked ("Powerpro")
Re: GNOME RPMs (Christian Rose)
Re: apt-get on Redhat (Christian Rose)
Re: apt-get on Redhat (Christian Rose)
Re: apt-get on Redhat (Christian Rose)
Re: chown to another user (give a file away). (SammyTheSnake)
Re: chown to another user (give a file away). (SammyTheSnake)
Re: Computer case badges with 3D effect with your own logo. Order securely online.
(SammyTheSnake)
Re: load average (SammyTheSnake)
Re: Compile GCC 2.95.3 in RedHat 7.0 failed !! (Christian Rose)
Re: ORiNOCO Wavelan Question (Ralph Metzler)
Re: chown to another user (give a file away). (SammyTheSnake)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommendation for GUI e-mail client?
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:06:56 +0200
Bjorn T Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have any recommendation for an e-mail client I can use under
> Linux? Preferrably it should be able to show HTML mail and support at
As html or as ascii (personally that's not "preferable").
> least POP3. And it doesn't matter if it is an ordinary X11 application
Mail clients don't normally "support" pop3, pop3 clients do! There is
really no need to make your mail client fetch mail as well as view it.
That said, all the gui mail clients I know of will view html (as html),
and several of them also use pop or a popclient proxy to get it when
necessary. Netscape springs to mind in that regard.
> or KDE/GNOME application.
> Any suggestions?
(1) use fetchmail in crontab to get your mail via pop3. (2) use a
non-html, non-gui mail client for best results (:|), or any one you
actually like! (3) use imap, not pop. (4) use sslwrapped services,
unless you really like passing your password in clear text over the
internet.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux in college & high school
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 11:51:45 GMT
On Mon, 14 May 2001 01:45:04 GMT, Mudshark wrote:
>The high-school is a fantastic place to introduce linux. there are
>tons of older 486 machines lying about with vga monitors everywhere,
>hell, slap linux on every one of them, and you have a state of the art
>programming/ tcp/ip networking environment in no time.
>
>Kandah
Wonderful idea!
I donate Linux CD's and books to the local library all the time.
Somebody has to compete with all of the landscaping books on the
shelves.
For those of you who don't live on Long Island NY your lawn is your
life. It's got to look like a golf course or you can't show your face
outside.
I buck the trend having a completely organic lawn with no chemicals
and it looks natural but nice at the same time.
And these people wonder why L.I. has the highest incidence of breast
cancer in the USA.
flatfish
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: date/year change on Linux
Date: 14 May 2001 12:02:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 14 May 2001 05:34:49 GMT Waldermar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I know I can use date to change time/date, but I couldn't find a way to
>only update the year part... Each time I change time I need to put complete
>string for the time/date. Is there a way to do it?
Write a tiny script?
Personally I just use rdate. Others swear by ntp or chrony (and probably
other programs I've never heard of.)
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
<http://dm.net>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve)
Subject: Re: Recommendation for GUI e-mail client?
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:08:52 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bj�rn T Johansen):
>| Does anyone have any recommendation for an e-mail client I can use under
>| Linux? Preferrably it should be able to show HTML mail and support at
>| least POP3. And it doesn't matter if it is an ordinary X11 application
>| or KDE/GNOME application.
>|
>|
>| Any suggestions?
>|
>|
>| Regards,
>|
>| BTJ
Slypheed seems to be mentioned as very good. In the KDE environment
Kmail 2.x is considered very nice. I actually liked Kmail 2.x as it's a
little more mature than Slypheed [sp?]
--
Steve - Toronto ICQ 35454764
Powered by GNU/Linux
8:05am up 4 days, 22:44, 12 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00
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From: KCmaniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: updating RH from hard drive
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:29:53 -0400
Has anyone out there ever successfully installed or upgraded their
RedHat system from a hard drive?
I have followed all instructions in accordance with the RedHat site
explaining how to do this but the install program crashes.
I have downloaded all the packages out of the RPMS directory using
several different FTP sites. I downloaded all the files from the base
directory and copied the boot.img file to a disk. It seems as soon as
the installer gets to a point to where it is going to use these files on
the hard drive, it crashes. It appears it is having a problem with one
or more of these files.
I should also include that there is one particular file out of the base
directory that I continually have had a problem with downloading from
every FTP site I have tried. The file is called stage2.img. It never
seems to ever successfully download for me. It apparently is a huge
file (some 87 MB). Has anyone ever successfully downloaded this file?
Does anyone know what it is?
Thanks for any help, advise or feedback.
RLH
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From: "Samantha Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Interested listening to an interview with the creator of LINUX?
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:38:19 +0100
Reply-To: "Samantha Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
For those interested in Linux - Silicon.com, the news site for IT and
ebusiness professionals who interviewed Linus Torvalds exclusively, will be
featuring full-length video interviews with the man himself on a microsite,
'Linus Week', (www.silicon.com/linusweek).
S.
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From: "Eric Chow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compile GCC 2.95.3 in RedHat 7.0 failed !!
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 21:54:22 +0800
Hello,
Would you please to tell me where I can download the GCC 2.95.2 binaries
version for Linux ?
Since I found that the GCC 2.95.2 within the RedHat 7.0 Linux is different
from the GNU released.
I tried to compile the GCC 2.95.3 (download from www.gnu.org) in RedHat 7.0,
but failed. Is there any body compiling the GCC 2.95.3 in RedHat, please
teach me how to compile it ?
best regards,
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: How to auto start xscreensaver daemon when X & Window Maker starts ?
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:10:02 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 14 May 2001 01:01:26 -0400, ThanhVu Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> When I used Gnome, the xscreensaver daemon was invoked
> automatically. I just recently changed to WM, and would like to have it
> starts auto as with Gnome. I try to append the command
> exec xscreensaver & in .XClients-defaults but that doesn't start the
> problem. What do I have to do for it to auto in WM.
>
On Solaris and Linux, I use a program called xautolock to start the
screensaver. On Solaris, in my .xinitrc file in my home directory, I
have the following:
if [ -x /usr/local/bin/xautolock ]; then
/usr/local/bin/xautolock -time 15 -corners 000+ -cornerredelay 30 &
fi
I can't check my Linux system (Slackware with fvwm as the Window
manager) now but I believe I have something similiar.
--
Frank Hahn
The [Ford Foundation] is a large body of money completely surrounded by
people who want some.
-- Dwight MacDonald
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to auto start xscreensaver daemon when X & Window Maker starts ?
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:12:50 GMT
ThanhVu Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> When I used Gnome, the xscreensaver daemon was invoked
> automatically. I just recently changed to WM, and would like to have it
> starts auto as with Gnome. I try to append the command
> exec xscreensaver & in .XClients-defaults but that doesn't start the
> problem. What do I have to do for it to auto in WM.
> Thanks for all inputs.
Add:
xscreensaver -no-splash
to your .xinitrc file. Mine looks like:
xscreensaver -no-splash &
gkrellm &
exec wmaker
Adam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Professor J Frink)
Subject: Re: date/year change on Linux
Date: 14 May 2001 13:12:43 GMT
>>I know I can use date to change time/date, but I couldn't find a way to
>>only update the year part... Each time I change time I need to put complete
>>string for the time/date. Is there a way to do it?
>
>Write a tiny script?
Here's a 'script' I've been using for years. I can never remember it off the
top of my head...
date --set="`telnet some.host daytime | grep :`"
hwclock --systohc
I use a uni Solaris box as 'some.host' which in turn uses stratum 2 ntp
servers referenced off our stratum 1 server. Which is almost accurate enough
for my needs but still doesn't prevent me from being late... ;0).
Probably much nicer ways of doing it and there's probably all sorts of
security holes in it but it's worked for me all the time I've used unix.
Frink
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Failed to setup FTP Server in RedHat 7.1
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:44:50 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> They assume you installed the ftp server because you don't know what
> >> you're doing and you don't REALLY want it.
> >
> > I believe they assume that you know what you're doing and hence know how
> > to enable a simple service.
>
> No, they assumed that even though I installed the server, I didn't really
> know what I wanted and they disabled it by default.
That doesn't conflict with what I said. I said that maybe they assume
that if you want a service and know what you are doing, you also know
how to enable it.
> Then they made me spend time I didn't have digging around in the config
> files figuring out how to enable it again.
They didn't force you to do that. You could have searched the docs in no
time for the information on how to enable a service. (hint: ntsysv)
> Becuase telnet also was disabled, that means all of the config files
> because I thought at first that it was something more general that was
> the result of the upgrade.
>
> They're assumption that they knew what I wanted better than I did cost
> me about half a day that I didn't have struggleing with new config files
> I wasn't familiar with to do what should have been a very simple
> installation.
So you didn't RTFM, looked in the wrong places, wasted time doing so,
and you like to put the blame on someone else.
Christian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Powerpro")
Subject: passwd file locked
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:52:02 +0000 (UTC)
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Hallo David,
Yes, it worked correctly. I unset the mutable bit of all those =
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Thanks a lot David.
Bye.
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GNOME RPMs
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:52:53 +0200
steve wrote:
> >| A simple answer: Install Ximian GNOME :-)
> >| http://www.ximian.com/
>
> I wouldn't at this point recommend Ximian to anyone. Have you seen the
> supported distro list?
Yes. What's wrong with it?
* Red Hat Linux 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 7.0, and 7.1
* SuSE 6.3, 6.4 and 7.0 on x86
* Mandrake 7.0, 7.1 and 7.2
* Debian GNU/Linux (Potato) on x86
* LinuxPPC 2000
* TurboLinux 6.0
* Yellow Dog Linux Champion Server 1.2
That covers *a lot* of the commonly used distros.
> Also the installer asks one to do some strange things, like de-install
> XFce before the install process can proceed.
> There couldn't possibly be any legit reason for this as XFce doesn't use
> any Gnome libs or interfere with Gnome in any way.
Are you sure about this? Are you sure there are even no file conflicts?
Are you sure your rpm database is healthy? Have you bug reported it?
> As far as I'm concerned Ximian with the google debacle, and now this, is
> not a company I'd want open source to be associated with.
>
> FWIW, I went to SuSE's ftp site and downloaded their rpms.
Wooha, that's funny, as SuSE is one of the companies I don't want free
software associated with (see yast licensing and the constant iso
delaying etc; all to "protect" their customers)
Christian
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: apt-get on Redhat
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:56:25 +0200
Matt O'Toole wrote:
> > Use AutoRPM if you want apt-get like behavior on Redhat or
> > Mandrake. I use it in lieu of Redhat' and Mandrake's autoupdate
> > programs. AutoRPM is configurable enough that you can choose
> > which packages to download dynamicly. Look here
> > <http://www.kaybee.org/~kirk/html/linux.html> for AutoRPM.
> >
> > G'luck....
>
> In case you haven't tried it, the Software Manager in Mandrake 8.0 works the
> same way. You just select the app you want to install, and it handles the
> dependencies for you. It's really slick, and works extremely well. If
> you're a Mandrake user, just upgrade and you'll be all set.
In case you haven't tried it, up2date in Red Hat 7.1 works the
same way. You just enter the app you want to install, and it handles
the
dependencies for you. It's really slick, and works extremely well. If
you're a Red Hat user, just upgrade and you'll be all set.
:-)
Christian
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: apt-get on Redhat
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:02:30 +0200
Michael Perry wrote:
> > In case you haven't tried it, the Software Manager in Mandrake 8.0 works the
> > same way. You just select the app you want to install, and it handles the
> > dependencies for you. It's really slick, and works extremely well. If
> > you're a Mandrake user, just upgrade and you'll be all set.
>
> No thanks. Think I will stick with apt-get. Mandrake 8 sounds a little
> interesting; but not enough to switch over to try the software manager. I
> much prefer the tools around apt also and the configurable interfaces one
> can use to preconfigure downloaded applications (apt-utils) in unstable now
> or hold applications for whatever reason. I do have one academic question
> for these solutions. How do they handle things like secondary dependency
> levels? Say a package has a dependency but that dependency also has one
> that is not met. Does the application search for the secondary dependency
> fulfillment?
Red Hat's up2date resolves also secondary dependencies. I have installed
packages which required three layers of dependencies, and it resolved
all that. I haven't tested if there is a level where it stops resolving
dependencies, though, but I assume that it can handle a lot more.
> Does it just stop? Are these GUI tools or are there console
> ones as well?
up2date works both in GUI and console mode. A snippet from console mode
operation if I want to install wu-ftpd:
# up2date wu-ftpd
Retrieving list of all available packages...
Removing installed packages from list of updates...
########################################
Removing packages with files not specified from list...
Removing packages marked to skip from list...
########################################
Getting headers for available packages...
########################################
Removing packages with files marked to skip from list...
########################################
Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies...
########################################
Retrieving selected packages...
wu-ftpd: ##########################
Done.
Preparing... ###########################################
[100%]
1:wu-ftpd ###########################################
[100%]
> I like the console nature of apt-get since I can use it from
> just about anywhere to touch a debian system.
Then you'll like up2date. :-)
Christian
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: apt-get on Redhat
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:19:04 +0200
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> > Frankly, I have very bad experiences with Debian, like not being able to
> > configure X, dated software in "stable" is another one.
>
> Not being able to configure X is your problem, given that the rest of
> the world can!
That's not very fair. I think that what the original author meant was
"given what the Debian install offers for X configuration at install
time or what X configuration utilities are shipped with it, I didn't
succeed in configuring X properly on Debian". If he succeeded in
configuring X in other distros and the X version was the same, the set
of configuration tools shipped with Debian are likely to be the cause of
the failure. And then it's a problem with Debian.
> And "dated" software is what is meant by "stable". A
> good rule of computer science is not to use a program until it as at
> least five (preferably twenty) years old. If you prefer bugs, get
> "undated" software.
And that's very unrealistic, given how the software industry in general
and the GNU/Linux development in particular works. A five year old
program can already be hopelessly outdated, and in many cases is.
Besides, a program being five year old is no guarantee that it doesn't
contain bugs. Most likely, it's just a guarantee that it contains five
year old bugs.
To most people, "stable" is "tested", it doesn't necessarily mean "old".
A newer program can easily be more tested than an old obsolete and not
so widely used. If you think "old==stable" in all cases, than that
reasoning is broken. It takes a lot more than that, and in some cases it
is also the opposite situation.
Christian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SammyTheSnake)
Subject: Re: chown to another user (give a file away).
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:55:18 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hasler wrote:
>SammyTheSnake writes:
>> I can't really see why, though, if you can make a shell script to do your
>> dirty work, you can do exactly the same with a C program...
>
>There is a race condition in starting up an interpreter. This is a FAQ.
not that FA a Q that I've ever seen it asked in the last couple of years
I've been reading linux NGs. A pointer to the FAQ in question would've been
nice, too...
especially as I can't find a faq for this ng on www.faqs.org or
www.usenet.org and the other faqs I've found don't seem to answer this
question...
Cheers & God bless
SammyTheSnake
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SammyTheSnake)
Subject: Re: chown to another user (give a file away).
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:57:45 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hasler wrote:
>SammyTheSnake writes:
>> I can't really see why, though, if you can make a shell script to do your
>> dirty work, you can do exactly the same with a C program...
>
>There is a race condition in starting up an interpreter. This is a FAQ.
not that I can find in any of half a dozen FAQs, care to post a pointer?
Cheers & God bless
SammyTheSnake
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Sam.Penny @ Ntlworld.com | Looking for a computer related
Linux, Hardware & Juggling specialist :-) | job, if you can help, e-mail me :)
Wheels: bike, 'ickle bike, and unicycle. | /o \/ Working on 5 ball 1/2 shower
Boxen: K6-266@300, dual Celery500 & Nx486 | \__/\ & some 6 / 7 ball exercises
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SammyTheSnake)
Subject: Re: Computer case badges with 3D effect with your own logo. Order securely
online.
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:00:04 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, SecurisysAgency wrote:
the same advert they've posted half a dozen times in the last few weeks
STOP SPAMMING YOU BERK!
*plonk*
Cheers & God bless
SammyTheSnake
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Sam.Penny @ Ntlworld.com | Looking for a computer related
Linux, Hardware & Juggling specialist :-) | job, if you can help, e-mail me :)
Wheels: bike, 'ickle bike, and unicycle. | /o \/ Working on 5 ball 1/2 shower
Boxen: K6-266@300, dual Celery500 & Nx486 | \__/\ & some 6 / 7 ball exercises
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SammyTheSnake)
Subject: Re: load average
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:11:20 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hasler wrote:
>Michael Heiming writes:
>> Nope, I meant what I wrote, 50. Sure you won't reach this on a desktop
>> system,...
>
>When I compile a kernel with 'make -j' I usually see loadaverages of 35 or
>more. Desktop performance is not perceptibly slowed.
OK, it may work, but it's certainly not the most optimal way to do things.
By running that many processes at a time, you're using more memory and this
is more important than you might think, because it blows away the cache
context, i.e. one process is working on one file, the next is working on a
totally separate file and each file is about the size of the cache.
switching from one to the other means that neither has a properly populated
cache. if you'd run just one at a time, each would've had a populated cache
and run faster. If your N processes don't comfortably fit into RAM, you'll
_really_ see the effects. Just imagine the same thing on a less audible
scale and you see that lowering load average has its advantages!
Of course there's a break-even point somewhere between keeping the cache
populated and keeping the CPU busy, and that is usually with load average
just over the number of CPUs, so on a 1 cpu machine, make -j 2 blah would
probably be _faster_ than make -j blah, possibly by a long way.
HTH
Cheers & God bless
SammyTheSnake
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Linux, Hardware & Juggling specialist :-) | job, if you can help, e-mail me :)
Wheels: bike, 'ickle bike, and unicycle. | /o \/ Working on 5 ball 1/2 shower
Boxen: K6-266@300, dual Celery500 & Nx486 | \__/\ & some 6 / 7 ball exercises
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compile GCC 2.95.3 in RedHat 7.0 failed !!
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:35:22 +0200
Eric Chow wrote:
> Would you please to tell me where I can download the GCC 2.95.2 binaries
> version for Linux ?
>
> Since I found that the GCC 2.95.2 within the RedHat 7.0 Linux is different
> from the GNU released.
>
> I tried to compile the GCC 2.95.3 (download from www.gnu.org) in RedHat 7.0,
> but failed. Is there any body compiling the GCC 2.95.3 in RedHat, please
> teach me how to compile it ?
Not an answer to your real question, but why would you want to replace
gcc 2.96 with 2.95.3? That sounds backwards to me. They're both free
software, and gcc 2.96 is among other things more standards-compliant.
If you have problems with gcc 2.96 in RH 7, upgrade to the errata
release (http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/RHBA-2000-132.html) or
upgrade to Red Hat Linux 7.1 which contains an even newer gcc. I've had
no problems with gcc in either 7.0 or 7.1 myself, though.
Christian
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From: Ralph Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ORiNOCO Wavelan Question
Date: 14 May 2001 15:40:01 +0200
> "Dan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Does anyone know of a way to make a linux box with a wavelan card act
> > like an access point instead of a peer-to-peer station? I have a
> > Silver ORiNOCO card installed and working in the linux box. There are
> > lots of things that do not work in peer-to-peer mode (like security
> > apparantly) and I was wondering if you can get the linux box to act
> > like an access point. I know the lucent access points use the actual
> > wavelan card in them, so I thought there might be a way..
I am using a silver ORINOCO card and several ELSA Airlancer cards in peer-to-peer
mode and it works with encryption.
I did have to upgrade them to new firmwares or the ORINOCO cards
would not talk to the ELSA cards (only the ELSAs to each other).
Maybe this also helps in your case.
Ralph
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SammyTheSnake)
Subject: Re: chown to another user (give a file away).
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:34:15 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, SammyTheSnake wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hasler wrote:
>>SammyTheSnake writes:
>>> I can't really see why, though, if you can make a shell script to do your
>>> dirty work, you can do exactly the same with a C program...
>>
>>There is a race condition in starting up an interpreter. This is a FAQ.
>
>not that FA a Q that I've ever seen it asked in the last couple of years
>I've been reading linux NGs. A pointer to the FAQ in question would've been
>nice, too...
>
>especially as I can't find a faq for this ng on www.faqs.org or
>www.usenet.org and the other faqs I've found don't seem to answer this
>question...
OK so I've found a lead...
>From the FAQ posted to comp.os.linux.misc...
<q>
7.7. Setuid Scripts Don't Seem to Work.
That's right. This feature has been disabled in the Linux kernel on
purpose, because setuid scripts are almost always a security hole.
Sudo and SuidPerl can provide more security than setuid scripts or
binaries, especially if execute permissions are limited to a certain
user ID or group ID.
If you want to know why setuid scripts are a security hole, read the
FAQ for comp.unix.questions.
</q>
the referenced faq (without a supplied addy, which is irritating, but not
really that difficult to get around with google:
http://www.cs.uu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/unix-faq/faq/) says (section 4,
question 7, half way through the long answer...
<q>
There are more serious problems though:
$ cd /tmp
$ ln /etc/setuid_script temp
$ nice -20 temp & $ mv my_script temp
The third command will be rearranged to:
nice -20 /bin/sh - temp
As this command runs so slowly, the fourth command might be able
to replace the original emp' with
y_script' BEFORE emp' is
opened by the shell!
</q>
and then goes on to explain the various fixes, which on Linux is to make
suid scripts not suid :)
so there's the answer I wanted...
Cheers & God bless
SammyTheSnake
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