Linux-Misc Digest #930, Volume #26 Fri, 26 Jan 01 20:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Far too big image for my screen, PLEASE help ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need help with Linux and DSL (Matt O'Toole)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (John Hasler)
Re: Best way to replicate Linux partition? (Scott Alfter)
Re: Dynamic DNS service (Steve Ackman)
Re: Utility for finding absolute path of file? (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
Re: iptables & 2.4.0 (Arthur Pedyczak)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: ls colors ("Jeff")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Getting tar to work! (Tim Haynes)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Far too big image for my screen, PLEASE help
Date: 26 Jan 2001 15:12:04 -0800
Jesper Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >Use an editor.
>
> Would have been a great answer if I knew how to - I can find the file but
> don't know how to manipulate it with an editor.
>
> Jesper
You'll probably get a zillion replies on this one. The configuration file
is plain ASCII, use any test editor, vi, emacs... You could even copy
the file to a DOS partition and use Microsoft's edit program, then copy
it back. It's the unix/linux way to have configuration files be in plain
ASCII. The password file, the boot up initialization files, the gettydefs
for defining log in terminal characteristics, the list goes on.
--
Replace ragwind.localdomain with rahul for a working email address
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From: Matt O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help with Linux and DSL
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 23:15:47 GMT
Hi Warren, I'm a Mandrake and Pacbell DSL user, so maybe I can help.
Warren Bell wrote:
> Rod Smith wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I'm going to be getting Pac Bell DSL and running it on Mandrake 7.2.
> > > When I signed up they said they don't support Linux but it should
> > > work. They also said you need their software to connect and they don't
> > > have software for Linux.
Actually, they do. They offer Enternet for Linux on their website. Ignore
it, though, it's crap.
> They gave me a couple choices and I got the external modem/ethernet card
> combo. Si I think I'll be alright there.
You got the right setup.
> > - Software. Some DSL ISPs use static IP addresses, others use DHCP,
> > and others use PPPoE. The first two are just normal Ethernet
> > protocols, and Linux handles them fine. PPPoE is new and
> > not-quite-100% standardized, so it sometimes causes problems. There
> > are several PPPoE implementations for Linux, though, and chances are
> > one will work. I've got links to several of them at
> > http://www.rodsbooks.com/network/network-dsl.html. A few ISPs also use
> > PPPoA, which is similar to PPPoE but more standardized. It's usually
> > used in conjunction with internal modems, though, so it's largely just
> > another reason to not use internal modems.
Pacbell uses PPPoE with their external modem and ethernet card kit.
Setting it up with Linux, particularly Mandrake, is even easier than with
Windows.
They also use PPPoATM with an internal PCI ATM modem. There's no Linux
driver for this card, so you can't use it. But in defense of this system,
it's simpler than the external modem and ethernet card, if all you want is
a fast dialup connection. It also offers superior performance (at least
under Windows). It's great for Windows users.
> I'm running Mandrake 7.2 and after looking around a little saw that I
> had PPPoE on my Mandrake CD. I installed it so I think I can use
> linuxconf to set it up.
Use DrakConf. Click on "Network and Internet Configuration," and just
follow the prompts. All you have to do is enter your username and
password, and your primary and secondary DNS addresses. That's it! Sure
beats that Enternet crap, eh!
> The only thing I'm wondering about is will
> there be an option to always stay connected?
> For my PPP setup it has an
> option to reconnect automatically. I didn't see anything like that in
> PPPoE.
Still in DrakConf, click on "Startup Services." Make sure the "adsl"
button is selected. Now your adsl connection will start when you boot.
It should reconnect automatically if you get disconnnected. If it doesn't,
just go back into DrakConf, click "Network and Internet..." again, and
click on the "Connect..." button.
> Also I use a service to attach my changint IP to a host name
> (http://www.dyndns.org/) and in ip-up.local I have the commands to
> update my hostname when PPP gets restarted. Can I do this for my DSL
> connection? Is there somthing like ip-up.local for DSL?
I'm sure you can, but I haven't delved into this yet. Let me know when you
figure it out...
Matt O.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 22:06:06 GMT
Thaddeus L Olczyk writes:
> Don't forget the kernel was based on the Minix kernel...
No. (For one thing, Minix was not free.)
> ...written by Tanenbaum. I believe he was American.
Still is, as far as I know.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Best way to replicate Linux partition?
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 23:21:31 -0000
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hugh Lawson wrote:
>>
>> >I would use cp -a -p -R instead. Do a man cp to find out why.
>> >
>>
>> On my version of 'cp', man page says:
>>
>> -a, --archive
>> same as -dpR
>
>So does mine, but I didn't see anyone suggest using the -d swithch.
Will cp preserve all the ownership and permission information? I recently
switched my server from SuSE 6.4 to LFS, and followed this procedure:
- - hook up both drives
- - boot from SuSE CD-ROM into their rescue system
- - mkdir /src /dest
- - prepare destination filesystem(s) and mount them on /dest
- - mount source filesystem(s) read-only on /src
- - cp /src/etc/passwd /etc
- - cp /src/etc/group /etc
- - (cd /src; tar cf - *) | (cd /dest; tar xf -)
- - make sure a blank disk is in /dev/fd0
- - dd if=/src/boot/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0 bs=512
- - shut down and move the destination drive to where the source was connected
- - boot from the kernel floppy you made earlier
- - log in as root and run LILO to write the master boot record
- - reboot from HD; done!
This (or something like it) is what I've always used in the past, and I
haven't had problems with trashed permissions or missing files.
_/_
/ v \
(IIGS( Scott Alfter (remove Voyager's hull number for email address)
\_^_/ http://salfter.dyndns.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Ackman)
Subject: Re: Dynamic DNS service
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:36:37 -0500
On 26 Jan 2001 18:22:18 GMT, Eric Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am not sure which newsgroup I should post to, so please forgive me
>if I post in the wrong group.
>I want to know what kind of software people use for those Dynamic DNS
>service, I mean the server side. Is is some kind of specially written
>software ? Or is it public domain software ?
I don't know about any others, but dyndns.org uses their
own proprietary software... currently NIC 2.0.
--
Steve Ackman
http://twovoyagers.com
Registered Linux User #79430
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Utility for finding absolute path of file?
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:48:54 -0500
Hugh Lawson wrote:
>
> In article <9ilc6.10983$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Brian Dellert wrote:
>
> >Is there a utility for finding the absolute path of a file? For example:
> >
> > abspath somefile
> >
> >would output
> >
> > /home/brian/somefile
> >
>
> Look up 'updatedb' and 'locate'. These provide a database of all
> filenames, which can be accessed by the 'locate' command. Very useful,
> and much faster than 'find', though the locate database requires updating.
>
One good thing about Red Hat distributions (and others probably do this
as well) is that they run updatedb in the wee hours of the morning when
you are least likely to be on your machine (you can edit /etc/crontab to
change when it runs). Thus, if you leave your machine up, you get a
fresh index for locate to use every day. Of course, if you know the root
password, you can run updatedb anytime.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 6:45pm up 1 day, 1:12, 3 users, load average: 3.13, 3.15, 2.81
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:53:05 -0500
Steve Withers wrote:
>
> G'day
>
> I've been following developments closely on this.
>
> It appears that sometime this year all new Microsot software will need
> to be registered....or it will cease to function.
>
> This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
> door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple PCs,
> how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay up
> and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
>
> In my own case.....I would have to upgrade 7 home PCs every year for
> both Windows and MS Office.....to the tune of lots of dosh per annum. As
> it is, I now have 3 of those systems on Linux...and quite happily.
>
> But some of my family members are reluctant to give up Windows. I may
> have to suggest to them that they pay for it in future....as I will only
> be paying for Linux software from 2001 onward.
>
> It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
> one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
> desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party, proportional
> systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software and Linux....
>
> Sort of the illusion of freedom (US politics) vs the reality of freedom
> (European politics - outside Britain).
>
> There is an underlying cultural thing operating here somewhere...... :-)
>
quite true
> Steve
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 26 Jan 2001 23:55:28 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <94sq0v$pre$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
> ...
>>You're one of those insane federalists who believes that his government
>>is incapable of doing any sort of wrong, arent you?
> ...
> No. I'm one of those realists who prefers a known and objective set of
> rules rather than trusting (albeit well meaning) people to fathom the
> intentions of voters. And I definitely think that the people who double-
> punched shouldn't expect to have their votes count. Wouldn't someone
> with the least bit of smarts figure out they couldn't vote twice?
This is all well and good for the double punches, which is actually was
not my reference. My reference was the arbitration behind whos votes
got actually counted and whos did not, re: absentee.
>>>Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
>>
>>Perhaps. But ill put my verbal SAT score up against yours or anyone
>>elses, any time.
> Irrelevant. (Oh, but "ill"/"elses," or were these just typos when you
> meant "I'll"/"else's"?)
They werent typos, and thats not what I meant. Read my other posts in
this thread.
=====.
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From: Arthur Pedyczak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: iptables & 2.4.0
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 23:58:29 GMT
"Christopher C. Stump" wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've run into a problem with firewalling under the 2.4.0 kernel on Red
> Hat 6.2 .
>
> My build of the kernel went smoothly. I compiled in the option for
> NetFilter so that I could use iptables. Under the NetFilter
> configuration options, I selected everything as modules except ipchains
>
> and ipfwdm(?) support. After kernel installation I downloaded the
> iptables package and installed it.
>
> From what I understand, that is all I need to do. However, when I try
> to test iptables with a rule specified towards the loopback device
> (iptables -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.1 -p icmp -j DROP...test as seen in the
> iptables HOWTO), I get the following error message:
>
> "iptables v1.2: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who?
> (do you need to insmod?)Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be
> upgraded."
>
> Now, I have checked and double checked my kernel configuration to make
> sure it is correct--I've recompliled the kernel at least twice since
> encountering this problem. And like I said, all the proper options for
> NetFilter support seem to be in place. The 'support for NetFilter'
> option under "networking" in xconfig is set to 'Y' and all NetFilter
> config options (expcept the 2 specified above) were selected as
> modules. Of course, all modules were built and installed after 'make
> bzImage' at kernel compilation.
>
> One interesting thing to note is that when I run the 'lsmod' command, I
> see no modules loaded that seem to relate to packet filtering. Are
> there modules that I need to manually install in order to get iptables
> to work? If so, what are they?
< SNIP.....................................SNIP>
iptables work for me. here is the list of modules I have loaded
(inserted as part of the firewall setup)
ipt_state
iptable_filter
ip_nat_ftp
iptable_nat
ip_tables
ip_conntrack_ftp
ip_conntrack
hope it helps...
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:06:37 -0500
"." wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Finally, as for US politics, better bland/boring politics and a diverse
> > and vibrant society than the reverse.
>
> I think we can all agree that what happened in florida during this past
> election could be defined at the very least as a highly disorganized and
> flawed state electoral system.
No...merely corrupt Demoncrook National Committee people playing
footsie with corrupt Demoncrook county election officials and even
more corrupt Demoncrook Florida Supreme Starchamber dictat^H^H^H^H^^H^Hjustices.
>
> A scary thought is that florida may just be the mean in this circumstance.
>
> Half the states may be worse than that.
Read the book "Votescam" by James and Kenneth Collier (Copyright 1992).
Nearly everything that happened in Florida last November was merely
a repeat of typical Demoncrook party election tactics.
Did you notice that the Demoncrooks were "complaining" that the majority
of these tamper-friendly punch-card ballots were in Demoncrook counties.
That was BY DESIGN....by the party which controls those counties...Demoncrooks.
Save America. Shoot a goddamned demoncrook.
>
> Ah, but "its the system, and its the only one we've got; we have to live
> with it", in the words of half a dozen bush-supporting senators in the
> face of the less-than landslide (and real) victory.
>
> Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the people
> written down somewhere?
Not in any official document.
It was a remark made by Lincoln, by the President who takes 2nd place in the
"how many ways can we violate the Constitution" contest. It was part of
the Gettysburg Address, the ceremony, about a year after the Battle, in
which the military cemetary was made official.
>
> Bah, must notta been important.
>
> -----.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:10:20 -0500
Harlan Grove wrote:
>
> In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
> ...
> >Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the
> >people written down somewhere?
> ...
>
> The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
> for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
> of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
> the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
> make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
> chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
>
> Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
Personally, I think that EVERYONE in America should have to apply for
citizenship, just like immigrants.
How many of the "government owes me a paycheck for my mere existance"
ignorami would be prevented from voting until they demonstrated an
understanding of our history and Constitution in a Citizenship application.
Odds are, the Demoncrooks would quit pandering to the lazy welfare
crowd....as these idiots wouldn't EVER pass the requirements of
citizenship if they weren't granted them by an unfortunate accident
of birth.
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ls colors
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:14:29 -0800
Red Hat does it different I guess... they have a setting in /etc/DIR_COLORS
not in .bashrc, that is the first place I looked
trust red hat to be different
"Micah Cowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > How do you disable ls colors? ie when I run ls to list the directory
> > contents, I don't want to see the results in color. Just white on black.
> >
> > My laptop does not display the blue color redhat uses for files very
well.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Jeff
>
> By default, ls doesn't use colors. However, many distributions
> (including mine) alias ls='ls --color'. To remove color ls, just find
> a line similar to that in your .bashrc file and remove it. That
> should be it.
>
> Micah
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:13:15 -0500
"." wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
> > ...
> >>Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the
> >>people written down somewhere?
> > ...
>
> > The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
> > for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
> > of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
> > the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
> > make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
> > chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
>
> Ah, you dont have a very good understanding of what happened in florida.
>
The Demoncrook tyrants^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hjustices sitting on the Florida Supreme
Starchamber tried to overturn state Election law in VIOLATION of well-established
Federal Law.
Demoncrook county election officials aided and abetted in the process.
> You're one of those insane federalists who believes that his government
> is incapable of doing any sort of wrong, arent you?
You're a shithead. The whole Constitution is founded upon the principle
that government can't be trusted....least of all those individuals in
government who LIKE being a part of it.
>
> I'll bet you believe in god too, dontcha?
>
> Thats very sweet.
>
> > Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
>
> Perhaps. But ill put my verbal SAT score up against yours or anyone
> elses, any time.
>
> -----.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Getting tar to work!
Date: 27 Jan 2001 00:11:41 +0000
Reply-To: Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
> > Why are you creating the file-list in the first place? If it's just a
> > directory you want to tar up,
> > tar cvf file.tar directory
> > will do the trick.
>
> i think a good use would be for backup.
>
> find . -type f -print > tmp1
> sed '/~$/d' tmp1 > tmp2
> tar cvfT f.tar tmp2
I'd do that with tar's own exclude option, myself, probably. Or the funky
find|cpio thing I mentioned. But that's just me.
> because
> 1) you have too many files which together take up too much space to cp
> -r them to another directory and prune the copy with rm.
Erk! That's wasteful, is that. Style-factor scores it down from day 0.
> 2) your selection/pruning criterea are too complex for find's globbing
> pattern matcher.
What about find's so-called "regular expression" matcher as well?
> 3) there are too many files for a single command line and i have no
> idea if tar is amenable to xargs.
Well, what you could do in that case is append to an existing archive, in
groups of e.g. 200 files at a throw.
Ultimately, it's a personal style choice; I happen to think keeping things
fluid with pipes is to be preferred over temp files. Certainly if it's a
1-shot command and I'm not going to use the list of files for anything else
later, anyway.
~Tim
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:15:02 -0500
"." wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Certain countries (Norway comes to mind) are very friendly towards
> > choice and freedom, but not 'Europe' in general.
>
> Netherlands: all the freedom of norway with 1. half the taxes and
> 2. more to do.
Heh heh heh.
The only army in the world that's unionized, too.
The army Union negotiated that they don't have to get haircuts unless
they are actually getting mobilized.
>
> -----.
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H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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