Linux-Misc Digest #347, Volume #27 Tue, 13 Mar 01 01:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Triple Booting? (Doug Hutcheson)
Re: 2 gripes that i can't fix (David)
KDE must learn from GNOME (Arctic Storm)
Re: xawtv config file not applied (IH)
Re: Replacement for windows media player? (David)
Re: CD incremental Backup strategy (Dances With Crows)
Re: PHP on RedHat --> MSSQL (Dances With Crows)
Re: *.i386.rpm q? (Dances With Crows)
Patching the kernel - more info needed (Paul Lew)
Re: USB Scanner? (John Scudder)
Re: Switching To Linux From Windows (Dowe Keller)
Re: 2 gripes that i can't fix (Glitch)
Re: USB Scanner? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: clock one hour ahead (Arctic Storm)
Re: using an ATAPI tape drive with Linux 2.2.17 kernel (bullwinkle)
offtopic: perl return codes (Siva)
Re: KDE must learn from GNOME ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: KDE must learn from GNOME (Dowe Keller)
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From: Doug Hutcheson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Triple Booting?
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:08:06 +1000
A possible alternative is to install a virtual machine under Linux, in
which to run your Windows.
I know of Win4lin (www.netraverse.com) which I have recently installed
and am impressed with, and VMWare which I have not used but which has
excellent reviews.
One advantage of the virtual machine is that Windows runs in its own
process space under Linux, so the typical Win crashes do not bring my PC
down - they just close the Linux Win window.
The main advantage to me is that I don't have to multi-boot. I now run
Linux as my 'native' system and boot Win4lin when I want to do
development in VB, VC++, Access or whatever.
YMMV
Cheers,
Doug
Newbie from Win98 wrote:
>
> Martin and everyone else,
>
> Please, please, please could you tell me the order in which you installed
> the operating systems and any steps you took to make sure it went smoothly.
>
> I have a Win98 machine that I want to put Win98 SE and Linux onto. I bought
> the full version of 98 SE expecting it to be able to install over 98 but it
> won't, it says that I need to use the upgrade disk to 98 SE. There is no
> option to do a dual boot with Win 98SE.
>
<big snip>
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 gripes that i can't fix
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:15:22 GMT
Glitch wrote:
>
> 1. I can't for the life of me figure out how to make messages expire
> using Netscape Discussion. My newsgroups keep growing b/c I can't figure
> out how to make the old messages ****ing go away.
>
> Can anyone help?
Click "view/messages/Threads with unread"
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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE must learn from GNOME
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:15:52 GMT
When I installed KDE 2.0.1, it sort of gave me problems, because of
dependency issues. I had to search and finally figured out how to install
them using the "nodep" option. Well, anyway, when KDE 2.1 came out, it was
made even more difficult to install. The "nodep" option failed, and I
could not install it properly, so I gave up.
I went to upgrade GNOME, and I was directed to Ximian GNOME. There was an
installer, and it was a breeze. I mean, it was so easy and clean that I
could hardly believe that it was for Linux.
All applications, and I mean, *all* applications, should be so easy to
install. The GNOME team deserves a round of applause. I hope this sets a
new standard for future to come.
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From: IH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.x.video
Subject: Re: xawtv config file not applied
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:05:47 GMT
When you right click and get the pop up menu does it state the correct values for
TV norm and Video source?
And can you change the pixsize and have it effect the size on load?
> I had to put norm in the [global] section before it would work.
What version are you using, 3.37? When my input line looks like:
[defaults]
#norm = ntsc
#input = tuner
input = Television
capture = over
xawtv says on load...
config: invalid value for input: Television
> My config file has "Television" for the input value, works like
> a charm.
Thanks for the response!
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Replacement for windows media player?
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:19:09 GMT
vorwart wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of an application that can replace windoze media player,
> mainly for the audio feeds?
>
> The main reason i need it is to be able to retrieve my messages from my
> pagoo account, which I was using b4 doing away with windows.
>
> Pagoo used to have real audio feeds, but have done away with them. All
> feeds are now like so:
>
> foolink/sendPCMWaveMessage.asp?
>
> I have contacted thier support. They told me to go back to windows. Yeah
> right.
>
> http://www.pagoo.com - incase you want a visual.
I haven't heard of anything yet but would also be interested in finding
something as I like to listen to "Artbell's Coast to Coast AM" but don't
want to stay up all night to do it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: CD incremental Backup strategy
Date: 13 Mar 2001 03:58:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 12 Mar 2001 17:47:04 -0400, * Tong * staggered into the Black Sun and
said:
>I know that Unix is very good at incremental tape backup. How about
>backing up to CD? What tools/strategies do you suggest? Please consider
>both the easy of use when backing up and restoring. any comments?
Multisession CDs? It's not quite as easy as tar + nst0 , but it can be
made to work. Use find and tar (or cpio, or whatever) to create an
archive of whatever's changed, and call the archive something based on
the date. Then burn it to CD using the -multi option (if it's the first
session on the CD) or use something like the following if it's the
second (or higher) session:
TRACK=`cdrecord -msinfo`
mkisofs -r -J -C $TRACK -M /dev/scd0 archive-03-13-2001.tgz | cdrecord
-multi
Now your tarball will be on the CD. To restore from incremental
backups, you'd untar the full backup, then untar the incremental backups
in the normal way. Make sense?
If not, there are some utilities at freshmeat.net that claim to have a
better way of doing things. Search for "CD Backup". HTH,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To:
comp.infosystems.www.servers,comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: PHP on RedHat --> MSSQL
Date: 13 Mar 2001 03:58:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 02:05:49 GMT, Londonboy staggered into the Black Sun
and said:
>I am runnng PHP 4.0.4pl1 on RedHat 7.0 and I tried to make PHP to
>connect with Microsoft SQL Server 7.0 on the same network.
>
>I tried to get PHP working, but I don't know how. I read many of the
>articles, they told me to download Sybase driver?? www.freetds.org
So what's the problem?
>I am totally confused. Is there a easy way that I can download the RPM
>and install it? I don't want to download the source code and recompile
>them (I am scared, coz I am newbie). Is there an existing binary file I
>can download?
Don't think there's a binary. The freetds source is *NOT* tough to
compile, at least on an x86 machine. Face your fear of compiling; it's
not like you're compiling a kernel or glibc2.1 or anything that could
seriously screw up your system. You want to stay a raw newbie forever?
The FAQ on the freetds site explains what to do; read it and follow the
directions.
Also, when it comes time to "make check", look in the freetds directory
for a file called "PWD". Change the database/username/password values
in there to something that makes sense on the SQL Server you're
connecting to. This will help you avoid unnecessary pain, and it wasn't
documented anywhere. HTH,
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Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: *.i386.rpm q?
Date: 13 Mar 2001 03:58:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:23:16 GMT, Mark Stephen staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>David wrote:
>> An i386 rpm will run on any Intel ix86 system but an i686 rpm won't run
>> on an i386, i486, i586 usually.
>Can you expand on this? I have a K6-2, which Linux identifies as
>an i586, but it runs i686 code just fine (so far). Where do the K
>series, Cyrix, Athlons etc. fit in the x86 hierarchy?
The K6 series is theoretically equivalent to a Pentium MMX, except for
the K6-3+, which has the same instruction set as an Athlon. Athlons are
roughly equivalent to a PPro/PII/PIII. Cyrix is to be avoided, but
their older stuff is really a 486 in disguise while their newer stuff is
similar to a Pentium.
IIRC, gcc does not use processor-specific instructions for things higher
than a Pentium. The main difference between i586 and i686 should be in
the scheduling of instructions. 3DNow, MMX, Katmai, and the instruction
set of the week have to be entered in inline assembly, which many
programmers hate doing. I've only seen a few things (gogo, some xmms
plugins) that have inline assembly at all. After all, some enterprising
person might want to port the code to Sparc, so inline assembly is
non-portable....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Patching the kernel - more info needed
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 04:08:32 GMT
I've read the "howto" for the "patching the kernel" in the howto for the
kernel; also have read the man pages. Both do not provide enough info
as nowhere is mentioned the prompt for "file to patch:". It took me a while
to figure out that it meant the *patch* file itself and NOT the file
I want to patch.
I got the "file to patch" prompt about 3 times in trying to patch the
2.4.2 kernel with the patch-2.4.2-ac18 in hopes of fixing my timezone
problem as there is a patch for the timezone stuff. Now, how long
should I expect the patch to run as it is now 4 hrs on my 900 mhz athlon
and still going; is the patch patching the kernel 3 times since I entered
the patchfile name 3 times??? Should I have just press the enter key
when prompted on the 2nd & 3rd times??
Something must be wrong as it is takeing VERY much longer to patch than
to update the kernel from scratch....will probably kill the process after
watching tv....oh, I used "patch -e -p0 -i patch-2.4.2-ac18".
Help!!!????
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From: John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB Scanner?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:06:29 -0500
Thanks all..
I really didn't have a particular scanner in mind. Staples had one on
sale this week - $19 w/rebate...a brand I never heard of and I was just
wondering. I thought I read somewhere that the Linux USB port only
worked with keyboards and mice. If I ever do get one, I will be sure to
get one from a manufacturer who supports Linux.
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dowe Keller)
Subject: Re: Switching To Linux From Windows
Date: 12 Mar 2001 20:20:29 -0800
On 7 Mar 2001 03:51:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>What is the advantage of using Linux over Windows. I am pretty new at this but am fed
>up with certain windows problems. Any help would be appreciated.
Check out:
<http://www.linux.org/info/advocacy.html>
<http://www.ibiblio.org/mdw/FAQ/Linux-FAQ/index.html>
<http://www.ibiblio.org/mdw/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html>
BTW: I cannot address your question in a more thorough manner, because
it is worded to vaguely.
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:16:46 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 gripes that i can't fix
David wrote:
> Glitch wrote:
>
>> 1. I can't for the life of me figure out how to make messages expire
>> using Netscape Discussion. My newsgroups keep growing b/c I can't figure
>> out how to make the old messages ****ing go away.
>>
>> Can anyone help?
>
>
> Click "view/messages/Threads with unread"
That option is greyed out in my menu. How do I make it an option? Right
now of course All is selected.
In Netscape 4.76 there was an option under Preferences for Mail/News
where u could set how old messages could be before they expired. THere
is no such option in NS 6 (i forgot to mention the version I was using,
just realized that).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: USB Scanner?
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:14:05 GMT
John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I really didn't have a particular scanner in mind. Staples had one
> on sale this week - $19 w/rebate...a brand I never heard of and I
> was just wondering. I thought I read somewhere that the Linux USB
> port only worked with keyboards and mice. If I ever do get one, I
> will be sure to get one from a manufacturer who supports Linux.
"only keyboards and mice" is _nonsense_. The _slickest_ thing I ever
hooked to my machine was a USB Zip drive; it was detected in a moment.
<http://www.linux-usb.org/>
<http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/>
There are some scanners supported; you'll need to pick fairly carefully.
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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: clock one hour ahead
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:21:12 GMT
> I just installed Linux, but my clock runs an hour ahead, I can change it,
> but it doesn't stay saved, Can somebody help me with this problem?
Have you tried changing the clock in BIOS, at boot. I think you can enter
the BIOS setting when you boot the computer physically.
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From: bullwinkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: using an ATAPI tape drive with Linux 2.2.17 kernel
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:30:08 -0000
Shane wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a Travan 4gig IDE tape drive running under Mandrake 7.2
(2.2.17
> stock kernel), which is detected at boot as HDD ("found ATAPI tape
drive..."
> is what it says)... Unfortunately, I cannot work out how to use it with
> taper or tar.
> tar keeps saying "Cowardly refusing to build empty data set" and taper
says
> "illegal tape drive".
>
> Trying /dev/nht0 does not work with either program. kudzu did not appear
to
> do anything to set it up either...
>
> Any suggestions? I've read what I can find in all the man pages, and on
> taper..
>
> Thanks
> Shane.
>
>
>
Greetings from Bullwinkle:
>>Try the command `mt -f /dev/nht0 reten'. With a tape in the drive, does
>>the drive retension the tape? If not, and `command not found' is
>>returned, the kernel may not be configured for mag tape. Also, you may
>>need super user permissions for the `mt' command.
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From: Siva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: offtopic: perl return codes
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:39:38 -0500
Hello,
I'm using Mime::Lite to send mails thru SMTP. i want to know how
to check the return status of
MIME::Lite->send('smtp', "iplmail.wipro.com",Timeout=>60);
$msg->send
I'd like to know how you'd check whether the server was down after the
timeout
expired and then branch off accordingly. I'm not getting the syntax right
when
i try with 'if' or 'unless'. can someone help me out??
regards,
siva
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KDE must learn from GNOME
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:43:13 GMT
Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I installed KDE 2.0.1, it sort of gave me problems, because of
> dependency issues. I had to search and finally figured out how to install
> them using the "nodep" option. Well, anyway, when KDE 2.1 came out, it was
> made even more difficult to install. The "nodep" option failed, and I
> could not install it properly, so I gave up.
> I went to upgrade GNOME, and I was directed to Ximian GNOME. There was an
> installer, and it was a breeze. I mean, it was so easy and clean that I
> could hardly believe that it was for Linux.
> All applications, and I mean, *all* applications, should be so easy to
> install. The GNOME team deserves a round of applause. I hope this sets a
> new standard for future to come.
Well, this really is not a KDE v. Gnome situation - the issue lies with with
the RPM format... I used a debian system once, and was very impressed with
how dpgk (apt-get was just starting to come out) was able to tell me about
all the dependencies, and offered to install all of the packages that
were required. I've often had some rather inappropriate things to say about
RPM because of this. I just spent a good chunk of time trying to install
the newer packages for gnome that galeon requires... ALl I had were similar
packages, but they were too old. However, earch ROM just says it needs
file xyz, but neglects to say where to find it. Aggravating! At least
that is where rpmfind.net comes in very handy... :-)
Just my two bits worth...
Kris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dowe Keller)
Subject: Re: KDE must learn from GNOME
Date: 12 Mar 2001 22:06:19 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Well, this really is not a KDE v. Gnome situation - the issue lies with with
>the RPM format... I used a debian system once, and was very impressed with
>how dpgk (apt-get was just starting to come out) was able to tell me about
>all the dependencies, and offered to install all of the packages that
>were required. I've often had some rather inappropriate things to say about
>RPM because of this. I just spent a good chunk of time trying to install
>the newer packages for gnome that galeon requires... ALl I had were similar
>packages, but they were too old. However, earch ROM just says it needs
>file xyz, but neglects to say where to find it. Aggravating! At least
>that is where rpmfind.net comes in very handy... :-)
>
>Just my two bits worth...
>
>Kris
Your not alone Kris, I am a Redhat user that misses the
Ease-of-Use (TM) that Debian's dpkg system offered, IMO rpmfind.net is
a poor substitute.
BTW: Anyone know where I can get dpkg as an RPM or tarball?
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