Linux-Misc Digest #349, Volume #27 Tue, 13 Mar 01 08:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: location of libraries ("Martin Collins")
No swap being used ("Martin Collins")
Re: No swap being used ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
lost root passwd ("Jon Tsu")
Re: lost root passwd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help for sound in KDE2.1? (OrangeDino)
Help for kernel 2.4.2! (OrangeDino)
Re: location of libraries (Michael Heiming)
Re: using an ATAPI tape drive with Linux 2.2.17 kernel (Yvan Loranger)
Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Tk based alarm clock ("Donal K. Fellows")
Re: Help for kernel 2.4.2! (Anders Jakobsson)
Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: 2 gripes that i can't fix (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: xawtv config file not applied (Steve Martin)
Re: Redhat Linux7.0 i386 version BUG report ! (Jean-David Beyer)
Installing fixes for glibc (Bostjan Vilfan)
Re: No swap being used (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: lost root passwd (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: jpeg -> ps (PoD)
Re: lost root passwd (Sandy Drobic)
how to install linux on windows NT ("Great Oracle")
Re: lost root passwd ("Eric")
Re: lost root passwd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Martin Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: location of libraries
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:09:51 +0100
Hi,
thanks for your reply. I did what you suggested and although
ldconfig -v reports libjpeg.so.6 in the directories /opt/kde/lib/gnulibc1
and /usr/lib/gnulibc1 afterstep still reports that it can't locate the
library.
What does the line /opt/kde/lib/gnulibc1=libc5 mean?
Thanks,
Martin.
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From: "Martin Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: No swap being used
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:13:18 +0100
Hi,
I've just noticed that according to "top" although I have 136512k allocated
as swap
0k is in use.
Is this normal?
Thanks,
Martin.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No swap being used
Date: 13 Mar 2001 10:31:44 GMT
Martin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just noticed that according to "top" although I have 136512k allocated
> as swap 0k is in use.
> Is this normal?
If you have enough physical memory, is normal that the swap is not
used.
Davide
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From: "Jon Tsu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lost root passwd
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:07:11 -0000
Hi
I have lost the root password on my Linux box. Can it be recovered? I am
running RH7.
Cheers.
Jon Tsu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lost root passwd
Date: 13 Mar 2001 11:32:51 GMT
Jon Tsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have lost the root password on my Linux box. Can it be recovered?
Reboot your machine, when "LILO" is displayed type linux 1 or linux
single, this will bring you in single-user mode. At that point, you
are root. Use passwd to change the root password. Use init 3 or init 5
to hop into normal-user-mode.
Davide
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From: OrangeDino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help for sound in KDE2.1?
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:50:04 +0800
There is some compilation problem in the redhat 6.x rpms from kde.org.
It cannot recognize oss or alsa sound drivers.
You need to download the kdesupport and kdelibs src.rpms to compile the
kdesupport, kdelibs, kdelibs-sound and arts rpms for yourself.
Then apply these newly generated rpms again.
I wish these can help people who face the same problem.
Thanks for the internet resource!
OrangeDino wrote:
> I upgrade my KDE from 2.0.1 to 2.1. But the art sound server cannot use
> my sound card anymore. In 2.0.1, everything is fine but in 2.1,
> whenever KDE startup artsd said that it cannot find any 'OSS' type audio
> I/O. Even I install the commercial OSS, it said that it cannot find any
> audio I/O. Actually other Linux sound application can produce sound
> normally. I am using ES1371 with the 2.2.x kernel module as driver,
> which should be OSS/Free driver.
> Can anyone tell me how to make artsd to find my audion I/O?
> Thank you very much!
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From: OrangeDino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help for kernel 2.4.2!
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:51:16 +0800
I have compiled the 2.4.2 kernel and applied ppp-2.4.0 to for my RH6.1
linux box.
But as I connect my linux box to internet with modem.
It said that ppp support is not included in my kernel or loaded as
module.
As I try to modprobe ppp, ppp1 or ppp0, it said that ppp cannot be
found.
Then what I should include in kernel configuration to include ppp
support?
Thanks for your concern!
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:37:41 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: location of libraries
Martin Collins wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> thanks for your reply. I did what you suggested and although
> ldconfig -v reports libjpeg.so.6 in the directories /opt/kde/lib/gnulibc1
> and /usr/lib/gnulibc1 afterstep still reports that it can't locate the
> library.
>
> What does the line /opt/kde/lib/gnulibc1=libc5 mean?
Just what it says.
>
> Thanks,
> Martin.
Not easy to answer, may be you should try strace/ldd/strings on your
afterstep to see where it wants this libjpeg.so.6, put it in this place
and adjust/rebuild your ld.so.config, man pages for all mentioned commands
should be on your box.
man 8 ldconfig suggests:
-l Library mode. Manually link individual libraries.
Intended for use by experts only.
Be sure not to muck up your system more than you have already, always
make a copy of config files before you change them.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: using an ATAPI tape drive with Linux 2.2.17 kernel
Date: 13 Mar 2001 11:48:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
bullwinkle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> Shane wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
> Greetings from Bullwinkle:
>>>Try the command `mt -f /dev/nht0 reten'. With a tape in the drive, does
>>>the drive retension the tape? If not, and `command not found' is
>>>returned, the kernel may not be configured for mag tape. Also, you may
>>>need super user permissions for the `mt' command.
Congratulations (not) you've made your reply appear as prior to Shane's
post (ie. quoted). In the future please abstain from potentially confusing
practices.
--
Merci.........................Yvan Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ncf.ca/vertige
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 06:57:05 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
>
> > But then, why do they have a problem and few other programs do?
> > glibc-2.1.3 has been flawless for me.
>
> They probably used private symbols. Most free software authors know
> better.
I do not know. They said there was a bug in Red Hat's version of
glibc-2.1.3 and that they put a work-around into their second service
pack. The main trouble was that, for licensing purposes, you cannot
install a service pack unless the the basic release (from the CD-ROM)
is already installed, and you cannot really install that if the glibc
is bad. They have a complicated way to do that, but what I did, after
spending a week finding out why I could not boot the system and have
DB2 come up at boot time, was put the 2.1.1 library in, install db2,
install the service pack, and then upgrade to the 2.1.3 library.
I sort-of doubt IBM would say Red Hat had a bug in their library if it
was IBM using a private symbol in the library. (I do not really know
what a private symbol is, but I could make a guess. But if I guess
right, the private symbols should be inaccessable to all clients of
the library, so maybe it was a Red Hat bug after all.)
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2.03
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From: "Donal K. Fellows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.tcl,comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Tk based alarm clock
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:47:27 +0000
Phil Ehrens wrote:
> He means same system --
Sort of...
> Let's see... mmm... ps -Ao fname,vsz |grep tclsh... pmap 6514...
> mumble mumble... count on fingers...
>
> Looks like between 250 and 300 Kb for each new interp on both
> Linux and Solaris. The rest is .so's.
No. You must remember that you can have several interpreters per thread
and several threads per process[*]. The overhead for a new interpreter
is only a few kilobytes (I've not measured in detail) since it can share
machine code with the other processes on the system, much more with the
rest of its process and stacks with other interps in the same thread.
Interpreters are 460 bytes each (32-bit arch, no debug) before accounting
for script sizes or hashtable contents.
Donal.
[* If built multi-threaded, otherwise you've got exactly one thread per
Tcl/Tk process which is currently the most common configuration. ]
--
Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I wouldn't just call you wrong. I'd go further and call you an argumentative
net-kook idiot who can't do his own research before opening his mouth and
yammering bullshit." -- Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Anders Jakobsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help for kernel 2.4.2!
Date: 13 Mar 2001 12:42:17 +0100
OrangeDino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
You need to be root.
Anders
> I have compiled the 2.4.2 kernel and applied ppp-2.4.0 to for my RH6.1
> linux box.
> But as I connect my linux box to internet with modem.
> It said that ppp support is not included in my kernel or loaded as
> module.
> As I try to modprobe ppp, ppp1 or ppp0, it said that ppp cannot be
> found.
> Then what I should include in kernel configuration to include ppp
> support?
> Thanks for your concern!
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:05:12 -0500
Grant Edwards wrote (in part):
> If you think there's such a large market for commerical Linux
> databases, stop sitting on the sidelines and complaining.
> Write a database and support it on 20-30 Linux distributions.
>
I know you are being sarcastic, but that is quite a tall order. In the
late 1970s, I needed a relational dbms for UNIX with some additional
search capabilities: I needed to do partial-match searches (i.e., I
did not know the primary key, but had to search anyway. E.g., If there
were a telephone directory database, and the name 'Beyer, Jean-David'
were in there, I had to be able to use a query like 'j d bey' and find
it (and any others like that)), and I also had to be able to do
"phonetic matching", such as looking for 'ristorante italiano' and be
able to find 'Mom's Pizza, Italian Restaurant'. It took me a couple of
years, mainly single handedly, to do that. A sequential search would
not have been acceptable.
Anyhow, it takes a lot of time to do such a thing, and what I build
would not have been a successful commercial product (could not support
transactions, could not handle concurrent updates, etc.) We later
added concurrent update capability. It was very useful for a bunch of
people in our company, and related companies, though. Partial-matching
and phonetic matching are very useful for things like telephone
directory searches.
--
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/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 6:55am up 10 days, 14:00, 3 users, load average: 2.01, 2.12,
2.02
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 gripes that i can't fix
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:10:35 -0500
Glitch wrote:
>
> David wrote:
>
> > Glitch wrote:
> >
> >> 1. I can't for the life of me figure out how to make messages expire
> >> using Netscape Discussion. My newsgroups keep growing b/c I can't figure
> >> out how to make the old messages ****ing go away.
> >>
> >> Can anyone help?
> >
> >
> > Click "view/messages/Threads with unread"
>
> That option is greyed out in my menu. How do I make it an option? Right
> now of course All is selected.
>
> In Netscape 4.76 there was an option under Preferences for Mail/News
> where u could set how old messages could be before they expired.
True, sort-of. You can set it to anything you like, but it never
changes it in preferences.js (or whatever it is), and leaves it at 30
days. I.e., it does not work. I guess they just admitted it in NS 6.
> THere
> is no such option in NS 6 (i forgot to mention the version I was using,
> just realized that).
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/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 7:05am up 10 days, 14:10, 3 users, load average: 2.09, 2.09,
2.02
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.x.video
Subject: Re: xawtv config file not applied
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:18:54 -0500
IH wrote:
>
> When you right click and get the pop up menu does it state the correct values for
> TV norm and Video source?
It does now, since I put those parameters under [global];
it didn't before when I tried saving them from the Channel
Editor window.
> What version are you using, 3.37?
I'm using 3.21, compiled from source.
Here's my xawtvrc file, hope it helps.
[global]
freqtab = us-bcast
pixsize = 128 x 96
pixcols = 1
jpeg-quality = 75
mjpeg-quality = 75
toggle-mouse = 0
keypad-ntsc = yes
osd = yes
# [Station name]
# capture = overlay | grabdisplay | on | off
# input = Television | Composite1 | S-Video | ...
# norm = PAL | NTSC | SECAM | ...
# channel = #
# fine = # (-128..+127)
# key = keysym | modifier+keysym
# color = #
# bright = #
# hue = #
# contrast = #
[defaults]
norm = NTSC
capture = over
input = Television
bright = 38966
contrast = 44280
[WATE 6 ABC]
channel = 6
bright = 32768
contrast = 32768
[WVLT 8 CBS]
channel = 8
bright = 35424
contrast = 29667
[WBIR 10 NBC]
channel = 10
bright = 32768
contrast = 32768
[WKOP 15 PBS]
channel = 15
bright = 33210
contrast = 32768
[WBXX 20 WB]
channel = 20
contrast = 32768
[WTNZ 43 FOX]
channel = 43
bright = 32768
contrast = 32768
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat Linux7.0 i386 version BUG report !
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:20:15 -0500
morpheus_w wrote:
>
> Linux7.0 i386 version BUG report:
> I'm sure everything I've done is correct when I install 7.0 on my machine
> with Monitor type "Mitisubishi Diamond Scan 50", but It just can't detect
> it correctly, and after I start X, all applications on screen appear
> TRANSPARENT WINDOW, I got no clue if that's not BUG.
>
> Any ideas on what the problem may be if that's not bug?
>
> Thanks advance!
>
First of all, if you are sure it is a bug, you would do everyone a
favor by reporting it to Red Hat. Red Hat might read this board, but
they have their own bug-tracking system.
I do not believe Red Hat's installation procedure detects monitors. It
DOES detect video cards correctly, but it does not know what monitor
is plugged in. Perhaps there are some video cards that can report the
monitor to the OS, but I do not know if this is possible or not, and I
doubt all video cards and monitors do it.
For all the versions of Red Hat I have installed (RH 5.0, RH 6.0, and
VA Linux's versions of RH 6.0 and RH 6.2.3), I have had to tell the
installer what kind of monitor I had. In the old days, my monitors
were not in the list, and I had to read the fine manual and enter the
horizontal and vertical sweep rates.
Whether the screen is transparant or not is controlled by
configuration. You may wish to middle-click on your desktop (getting
Enlightenment menu), select Settings, and play around in there.
--
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/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 7:10am up 10 days, 14:15, 3 users, load average: 2.05, 2.07,
2.01
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From: Bostjan Vilfan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing fixes for glibc
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:13:44 +0100
I was having trouble installing an upgrade to glibc-2.2-12.i386 in my
Red Hat 7.0 Linux. However a previous post to this newsgroup solved the
problem by pointing attention to a place where the correct installation
statements were listed:
rpm -Uvh glibc-[2c]*
rpm -Fvh glibc-[dp]* nscd-*
This worked; however, I got some warning messages, and I am not sure
what to do. The complete trace is:
root@vilfan Bugs]# rpm -Uvh glibc-[2c]*
warning: /etc/localtime created as /etc/localtime.rpmnew
glibc
##################################################
cannot remove /usr/share/locale/sk - directory not empty
cannot remove /usr/share/locale - directory not empty
glibc-common ##################################################
[root@vilfan Bugs]# rpm -Fvh glibc-[dp]* nscd-*
glibc-devel ##################################################
glibc-profile ##################################################
I am not sure what to do with /etc/localtime.rpmnew? Should I delete the
old version
/etc/localtime, and rename /etc/localtime.rpmnew to /etc/localtime? How
about the message "cannot remove /usr/share/locale - directory not
empty"? Should I manually remove this directory?
Regards,
Bostjan Vilfan
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No swap being used
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:27:28 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Martin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've just noticed that according to "top" although I have 136512k allocated
> > as swap 0k is in use.
> > Is this normal?
>
> If you have enough physical memory, is normal that the swap is not
> used.
>
I am not sure that that is normal. I have 512 Megabytes of main
memory, and most of it is just used for buffers and cache; i.e., it is
not vitally needed. I do not do any heavy duty graphics processing. I
find the system almost always has some stuff swapped out. Right now,
19 Megabytes are swapped out. Some of the swapped processes are:
kflushd
kupdate
kpiod
kswapd (I am kind-of suprised that this is allowed to swap out)
mdrecoveryd
lockd
nfsd
nfsd
nfsd
nfsd
db2sysc
mingetty
mingetty
mingetty
mingetty
mingetty
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/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 7:20am up 10 days, 14:25, 3 users, load average: 2.09, 2.08,
2.03
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lost root passwd
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:30:23 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Jon Tsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have lost the root password on my Linux box. Can it be recovered?
>
> Reboot your machine, when "LILO" is displayed type linux 1 or linux
> single, this will bring you in single-user mode. At that point, you
> are root. Use passwd to change the root password. Use init 3 or init 5
> to hop into normal-user-mode.
>
The above is correct. God help you if you setup your machine so you
must supply a password to get into run level 1.
BTW, you cannot recover your root password, but you can assign a new
one, and you should.
I know it is bad security practice, but I must remember so many
login-password combinations and these must be changed on a regular
basis, that I write them down somewhere that I can find. Do not put
them on PostIt notes on your monitor, though. Preferably not even in
the same room.
--
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/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
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2.04
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:02:27 +1030
From: PoD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: jpeg -> ps
Neil Zanella wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am using a digital camera instead of a scanner or photocopier to archive
> some black and white articles as I find it fairly convenient. I would like
> to know whether there is a tool under Linux for converting jpeg to ps so
> that I nay print the pages on a postscript printer and obtain fairly
> decent results.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil
convert which is part of ImageMagick will convert just about any image format to any
other.
It will turn jpegs into postscript.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sandy Drobic)
Subject: Re: lost root passwd
Date: 13 Mar 2001 13:02:00 +0100
When on 13.03.01 I read a letter from
about: "Re: lost root passwd",
I decided to do war and invoked my tribal gods with:
> Jon Tsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have lost the root password on my Linux box. Can it be recovered?
> Reboot your machine, when "LILO" is displayed type linux 1 or linux
> single, this will bring you in single-user mode. At that point, you
> are root. Use passwd to change the root password. Use init 3 or init 5
> to hop into normal-user-mode.
Whoah! For one moment you really scared me! It's true, that you can
boot to single user mode that way, but at least SuSE 7.1 still demands
the root password, so no luck that way.
But if you have physical access to your server, then you can always
insert the boot cd of your distribution, boot up the system from cd and
then mount the root partition on your harddisk. Afterwards you only
need to delete the root password in /etc/passwd.
Then you can login as root and afterwards set another password
immediately.
Sandy
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From: "Great Oracle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to install linux on windows NT
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:44:18 +0800
any idea how to have dual partition with 2 OS; windows NT and linux on a
single box? I used to use fips and lilo for win95 but I am clueless on
windows nt. anyone has any idea to this, please write to me. Thanks alot!
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lost root passwd
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:45:00 +0100
> The above is correct. God help you if you setup your machine so you
> must supply a password to get into run level 1.
I'm not god, but I could most certainly help you in that case ;-)
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lost root passwd
Date: 13 Mar 2001 12:50:08 GMT
Sandy Drobic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whoah! For one moment you really scared me! It's true, that you can
> boot to single user mode that way, but at least SuSE 7.1 still demands
> the root password, so no luck that way.
RedHat doesn't, if you want password even in single-user you must
install the patch for slogin (secure login).
I assume that he has a 'normal' installation. A 'secure' installation
is a little overpowered for an 'home' user... (IMHO of course).
Davide
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