Linux-Misc Digest #819, Volume #18 Sat, 30 Jan 99 03:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: StarOffice vs. Applixware vs. WordPerfect (Michael Perry)
Re: how to change the default fonts for linux? ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (allacircle)
Re: Export Windows File System for Linux to Mount ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: could someone suggest a window manager for me? ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: encrypted file system (Martin Dickopp)
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (C Sanjayan
Rosenmund)
Kernel numbering schemes (Yan Seiner)
Re: Unable to mount cdrom (Wowix)
Re: Why does Netscape hang until I dial up? (Mark Grosberg)
Re: Problem with pci modem (Bill Unruh)
X windows crash please help! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: installing win95 on slave disk (Michel Catudal)
Re: User Friendly ISP for Linux (Michel Catudal)
Re: Netscape Communicator 4.5 (128bit) problem (Michel Catudal)
Re: Win98 has screwed up my dial-up networking (again!) (Michel Catudal)
Re: StarOffice vs. Applixware vs. WordPerfect (Michel Catudal)
Re: Installing Linux on a secondary UIDE disk (Michel Catudal)
International Consultans? ("Mr. Poet")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: StarOffice vs. Applixware vs. WordPerfect
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 02:13:32 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:35:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been browsing around trying to decide which of the "big three" office
>application suites to go with and install on my system (StarOffice,
>Applixware, or WordPerfect). However, I haven't been able to find much
>information on the ability of ANY of these programs to import, convert, or
>work with Microsoft Office documents. My office shares a great deal of
>information between Linux and Windows machines on the network (Samba)... so
>it's pretty crucial that I have a means of viewing/editing Office files.
>
> Anyone know about the capabilities (or lack thereof) for any and all of
>those three office suites... of if there is some other (and better) Linux
>office application suite out that I haven't even heard of yet? Thanks!
>
>Steve
>
>
>
>
>
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I'll take a stab at a comparison. I currently use applix 4.4.1 and
recently ordered and received corel wp8 on cd. I also use a really nice,
and free, spreadsheet called wingz pro. Corel has some nice text handling
abilities and I like the integration level of the applix applications.
I do not import large and complex word97 documents but often do import
multi-page documents with font changes, headers and footers, stuff like
that. Applix seems okay unless the document has been fast-saved in Word.
If that happens, the filters go all screwy and you end up with lots of
repeated pages. I have had problems with importing some complex
excel spreadsheets into applix spreadsheet. These contained lots of
imbedded formulae for primarily exempt employee time reporting (i.e.,
timecards).
I tend to like to use corel to do word processing quite a bit. It has
that overall familiar look and feel for me and I appreciate that.
As far as corel goes, why not just download the free version from
linux.corel.com and check it out. Its free. If you want to keep it,
registration is also free from that website.
This makes corel a nice deal for everyone.
--
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to change the default fonts for linux?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 22:55:45 +1100
G'day...
> because the fonts in netscape and xterm is so small....
For Netscape, you edit the preferences. (Edit -> Preferences ->
Appearance -> Fonts.)
For xterms you use your .Xdefaults file.
Use xfonsel to look at what fonts are available on your system. Edit
your .Xdefaults file and plug in the appropriate font at the right
place.
Things become clearer in the process of doing this. =)
Hope this little starter helps...
All the best.
Michael.
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From: allacircle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:23:22 -0500
Alan Boyd wrote:
> Matthias Warkus wrote:
> >
> > I suppose this wasn't any different even in pre-trauma Germany... At first I
> > thought you were USAmerican, that's why I was so bewildered. You pledge
> > allegiance to the flag at *school* in the USA AFAIK.
> >
> > And of course, the civil servants don't swear an oath on the Constitution,
> > but on the flag, too (an American told me that, don't flame me for it if
> > it's wrong).
>
> Dunno about the civil servants, but the school pledge is (was?)
>
> I pledge allegiance to the flag
> of the United States of America
> and to the republic for which it stands,
> one nation under God, indivisible,
> with liberty and justice for all
>
> I haven't recited it for 25 years or so, I'm guessing the kids still
> stay it.
>
> There's a short history here:
> http://www.vineyard.net/vineyard/history/pledge.htm
>
> --
> "I don't believe in anti-anything. A man has to have a
> program; you have to be *for* something, otherwise you
> will never get anywhere." -- Harry S Truman
That want us to be i won't. They even have the words on the TV just in case you
forget. I told my teacher that if they get a bouncing ball over the words take
out the word god, and install linux on the network i'll say the stupid pledge.
--
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quothe DogBert, "Some say the computer industry is built on silicon.
I think foam and plastic are equally important. "
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Export Windows File System for Linux to Mount
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:50:09 +1100
G'day...
> Is this possible? I have Samba running, and I can work with that, but
> there are times when it would be better if the Windows file system
> were exportable and NFS mountable on the Linux side.
Under redhat install the smbfs packages. (You probably should get the
samba and smbfs packages updated, if you have not done so.)
The commands to use are smbmount and smbumount. I find I have to a
'smbmount //MACHINE/DIR /mount/point' rather than a 'smbmount
//machine/dir /mount/point'.
All the best...
Michael. =)
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: could someone suggest a window manager for me?
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:44:17 +1100
G'day...
> window manager is icewm, since the current snapshots of Enlightenment tend
> to crash a lot. Window Maker with Gnome shouldn't be too bad either.
In defense of Enlightenment. =)
The current "stable" version works fine without crashing. (You really only want
the bleeding edge if you are developing under/for it.) (Please remember E is
under development and v1.0 has not yet been released).
I use Enlightenment on a P166 with 64M physical ram without a hitch. =)
All the best.
Michael.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Dickopp)
Subject: Re: encrypted file system
Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:42:16 GMT
In article <01be4b32$8f40f700$b8eb4e0c@nilrem>,
"Norm Dresner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You need a password to get onto the machine (if it's set up properly), why
> do you need to password-protect the files too?
You might need to protect files from others who have physical access
to the machine.
> Are you worried about other users seeing them? Then create (or get your
> sys-admin) to put you in a separate group.
With physical access to the machine, it is easy to log in as `root'
without password.
Regards,
Martin
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From: C Sanjayan Rosenmund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 07:30:18 GMT
"Keith G. Murphy" wrote:
><snip>
>
> When I see Microsoft's latest offerings, I truly believe that we have
> entered the Baroque Era of Interface Design.
Do you mean to say that most of the interfaces are Baroquen?
(sorry)
--
Sanjay
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Windows has detected that a gnat has farted near your computer.
Press any key to reboot.
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel numbering schemes
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:00:55 -0500
My kernel shows up as 2.0.35; but a lot of the patches refer to even
numbers:
2.0.34 or 2.0.36
Could someone please explain the significance of the odd-even numbers
and tell me if I'm loooking for patches for 2.0.34 or 2.0.36?
Thanks.
Yan
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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:22:37 +0800
From: Wowix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unable to mount cdrom
can u post here the command you use to mount the cdrom....that could
help..or
try this command::::
# mount -t ISO9660 /dev/hdx /mounting/point
note:::
/dev/hdx should be a, b, c, d, not d1 or d2 or b1 or b2.....etc
Doug wrote:
> When I go to mount my cdrom from user mount tool or by commands i get.
> mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected,mounting read only.
>
> mount: wrong fs,bad option,bad superblock on dev/cdrom or too masny file
> systems.
>
> I have 2 other cd's that came with redhat 5.2 . One has programs which i
> would like to install can not install them.
>
> I have redhat installed on2.1 gig seperate Hard Drive.
>
> Please any advise would be appreciated!!! If possible email me and the
> group.
> Thank You in advance
> Doug
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From: Mark Grosberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why does Netscape hang until I dial up?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 07:10:33 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Rod Brick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a new phenomenon for me. I start netscape, and it runs -
> somewhere - but it never materializes on the desktop. Not until I dial
> up does it show up on as a window. I'm not using diald, if that makes a
> difference. This is a real pain in the butt. If I just want to view an
> html file via netscape, it seems I must dial up first. Can anyone help
> me here?
Netscape is probably trying to do a DNS resolution for some reason. The
most likely reason is that you have it set to visit a page on startup.
This is causing it to try and resolve the host-name component of the URL
into an IP address, which requires a nameserver.
I recommend you try the following things:
(1) Make Netscape go into a "blank" page on startup.
(2) Make sure wherever it is trying to go is in /etc/hosts
or:
(3) Run a local, caching-only nameserver. This is a great thing
if you are on any kind of low-bandwidth connection (dedicated
or not). You then set your /etc/resolv.conf file to use your
machine as a nameserver. Your machine looks up name
translations locally first (caching the entiries for usually
a long time -- depends on the SOA record). If it isn't
cached, it contacts the root name servers to bring down the
records.
I do #3 at home. I have a dedicated connection (somebody else provides a
domain name for me, so I don't serve up anything), but doing every name
resolution for my local network (4 hosts always on, sometimes more) is a
pain, especially when one machine here is accessing another.
If you run RedHat Linux, it comes with a "skeletal" configuration file for
a caching-only nameserver. But you must also get the root server list
(and, in theory, you should update it rather often) and apply that.
HTH.
Mark G.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Problem with pci modem
Date: 30 Jan 1999 07:41:50 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> nitraat <"nitraat "@hda.hydro.com> writes:
>I have a pci modem 56k6
>When I start mij internet connection, I get the error message
>"modem not found".
It maybe a "winmodem", a modem without any smarts at all. It cannot be
used with Linux.
Which com port does it sit on under Windows? Which under DOS?
Ie, make sure you know where it is and then remember that
COMn=/dev/ttySn-1 (Com1=/dev/ttyS0)
try using isapnp if it is a pnp modem
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: X windows crash please help!
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 18:21:30 GMT
I have a neomagic graphics card, in a gateway laptop. At the moment when I
try to start linux it starts as normal but when it tries to start the X
server, it cant and carries on trying, this stops me from logging in and
correcting the problem, How do I stop the automatic starting of Xwindows? I
know the reason for the problem is because the neomagic card needs a special
driver and the link from the XF86config file to the driver has become broken!
Any suggestions greatly recieved .....
Thanks
Toby Coleridge
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PS does anyone know how to change a keytable in Xwindows I can do it in a
normal log in screen but then something in X overrides it, any ideas?
THANKS.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.windows95,alt.windows95,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: installing win95 on slave disk
Date: 29 Jan 1999 07:12:12 -0600
jdn wrote:
>
> Windows does *not* demand that it be installed in the first partition of the
> first drive, and it doesn't even demand that it be installed in the primary
> partition.
>
> jdn
>
The winblows doesn't have to be on drive C: but the dos boot must be.
You have to boot it somehow. How you go about it is irrelevant as long
as you get it to believe that it is drive C:
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: User Friendly ISP for Linux
Date: 29 Jan 1999 07:12:12 -0600
Roy Graham wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a good Linux base ISP where one can simply enter their
> name and p-word without writing a book. Save ME FROM
> WIN_DA Roy:} my current isp uses chap one pain to configure but it could be
> easy for I'm A newbie.
If you have RedHat just run control-panel and the network support.
Once you get in that setup, if you're still lost read the documentation.
Everything should be self explanatory.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape Communicator 4.5 (128bit) problem
Date: 29 Jan 1999 07:12:13 -0600
Patrick O'Neil wrote:
>
> I am running RH 5.2, kernel 2.0.36-1 (all other files are the latest
> updates). Hardware: 64 MB SDRAM, Celery 300a, Abit BH6 mobo.
>
> Freshmeat is setup as my homepage. Ever since the change in format of the
> page, I have found that Netscape 4.5 will crash ("Bus error" in an xterm
> if started from a terminal) at the same point during each page load...just
> after the title header and search dialog box appears, just before the body
> of the page loads. This occurs about 9 times out of 10. If I keep trying
> to load the page again and again, eventually I will succeed.
>
> I have not found any other page that I frequent causes this crash.
> This is a recent problem.
>
> I tried "mv .netscape .netscape-save" and then starting netscape again in
> an attempt to get around a (perhaps) buggy setup. It didn't work.
> Netscape died with a bus error the first time I opened up the settings
> notebook, made my changes, and then tried to save it. I hit the "OK"
> button and Netscape crashed with a bus error message. I tried again and
> it worked the second time...accepting my settings.
>
> Subsequently loading my homepage (http://tx.us.mirrors.freshmeat.net)
> crashed Netscape as before. This didn't happen before the freshmeat page
> format change.
>
> I am now faced with dumping NS 4.5 128bit. Is there any advantage to
> using it versus the 4.08 version of netscape or do I lose nothing by
> dumping it for 4.08?
>
> Anyone know why this "Bus error" occurs?
>
> patrick
I had that very similar problem until I deleted the setup files and reentered the
information from scartch.
Right now I am running 4.08, I have been too lazy to go back...
I found a common problem with both be versions is the GMT bug, at least it looks
like that. All the times are off, it looks like Netscape thinks that it must
display the time in GMT or some shit of the sort.
It is the only thing that thinks that I live in England (&?%&*%%*)
Anyway to get netscape to display the time correctly? I haven't found any setting
for it.
I didn't have that problem with the non secure version of Netscape.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win98 has screwed up my dial-up networking (again!)
Date: 29 Jan 1999 07:12:13 -0600
Eric Peterson wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I recently did a motherboard upgrade on my Win98 machine (Those ****
> games just keep needing more power!)
> Of course Win98 choked when I booted. I was forced (as usual) to boot from
> my emergency floppy and reinstall Wincrap from scratch. My upgraded
> machine seems to work OK now, but there is one hitch.
> My linux machine, which is set up with diald and IP Masquerade, is now
> (once again!) dialing into my ISP at regular intervals. I have checked the
> properties for Windows' TCP/IP networking, and they are the same as before.
> I had already disabled Netbeui name server lookups as a diald trigger, so
> I doubt that is it. I can't figure out why Windows is asking for dialouts
> again.
> The only other thing that might have changed is this: Right after I
> reinstalled Win98, I dialled in to Windows Update because I wanted to
> reinstall a couple of patches for Windows. I THINK (but I'm not sure) that
> there was a new patch on the site that I didn't have before. I'm wondering
> if this could be the problem.
> Any help is appreciated.
>
I downloaded the fixpak for the y2k problem last week. I can no longer get updates
with the exploder since then. After install I saw the message "FAILED" and a few
seconds later it said that the install would complete after a reboot which it
did closing my internet connection which took 50 retries to get.
It should have said "The hozing of you exploder will be completed after a reboot,
whether you like or not, MORON!"
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice vs. Applixware vs. WordPerfect
Date: 29 Jan 1999 07:12:14 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I've been browsing around trying to decide which of the "big three" office
> application suites to go with and install on my system (StarOffice,
> Applixware, or WordPerfect). However, I haven't been able to find much
> information on the ability of ANY of these programs to import, convert, or
> work with Microsoft Office documents. My office shares a great deal of
> information between Linux and Windows machines on the network (Samba)... so
> it's pretty crucial that I have a means of viewing/editing Office files.
>
> Anyone know about the capabilities (or lack thereof) for any and all of
> those three office suites... of if there is some other (and better) Linux
> office application suite out that I haven't even heard of yet? Thanks!
>
As for the free package of WordPerfect it sucks. Hofully the full version is allright.
The printing doesn't support color on my Canon BJC-250 while StarOffice do.
\ doesn't exist with WordPerfect.
My son loves StarOffice, I guess that is what I will buy.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on a secondary UIDE disk
Date: 29 Jan 1999 07:12:11 -0600
Gary Momarison wrote:
>
>
> The easiest and least risky method is to plan to boot Linux off a floppy
> at least until you get more comfortable with it and decide to set up
> [that means "setup" to those of you from RioLinda] a LILO dual-boot
> scheme. When you get near the end of the RH installation, It'll ask
> if you want to make a boot floppy. Yes you do. It'll ask if you want
> to install LILO into the MBR of the first disk or the boot record of
> the Linux partition. No you don't. After the installation completes
> put the boot floppy in and reset the computer and it should boot into
> Linux.
>
> There are several ways to set up dual booting off the hard disk, but
> I'll let you read RTFM about that. Generally, it requires letting
> LILO replace your MBR, or putting a (small?) primary partition on
> the first disk for LILO to install a secondary boot record into,
> which you would mark "active", or using some other boot loader,
> like the NT boot loader.
>
The easiest way is actually to use the boot manager from IBM, I can boot off
the third or fourth drive without a problem. You put Lilo on the root of the
Linux partition and the boot manager on a primary partition on the first drive.
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From: "Mr. Poet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: International Consultans?
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:02:28 -0800
Hello,
http://www.linuxports.com has updated their professionals database... Now
listing:
Argentina
Australia
Austria
Bangladesh
Belgium
France
Germany
Mauritius
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