Linux-Misc Digest #899, Volume #27               Sat, 19 May 01 18:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: NTFS files (Jack Kaufmann)
  How do I "Kill" Netscape? (Lamar Thomas)
  Re: Newbie in a Fankle..... (Michael Perry)
  Re: How do I "Kill" Netscape? ("Tomasz Chmielewski")
  Re: Unistalling, version control (Michael Perry)
  Re: which linux dist? (Michael Perry)
  Re: How do I "Kill" Netscape? (Jim Cochrane)
  Re: Newbie in a Fankle..... ("Martin")
  Re: dos partition not writable under linux (Aranwen)
  Re: A CPU cooler for Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: bad links ("Garry Knight")
  Re: Newbie in a Fankle..... (Dave Uhring)
  Re: RH6.2 & AMD K6-2 (Dave Uhring)
  lightweight emacs shell-mode replacement (Martin Drautzburg)
  Re: pppd works with one comp, not the other ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How do I "Kill" Netscape? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Thai fonts and Thai keyboard layout under linux/kde2 (Chris Carlen)
  Re: NTFS files ("Peter T. Breuer")

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From: Jack Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NTFS files
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 19:08:57 GMT

"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> 
> Jack Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> >> Jack Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Unfortunately, while man mount lists ntfs as one of the file types which
> >> > can be mounted, when I try it I get a message that the kernel doesn't
> >> > support that file type.  Any ideas?
> >>
> >> Install support for it!
> >> "modprobe ntfs"
> 
> > I tried that; it tells me it doesn't recognize such a module.  Anything
> > else I can try?
> 
> Modules aren't "recognized". They either exist or they don't. If you
> don't have that module on your disk, then compile it. If you do, then
> load it. It's as simple as that.
> 
> Tell us something about the kernel you are using. Which is it? ("uname
> -r"). Who made it? (you? a distribution?). And "cat /proc/filesystems".
> Also "locate ntfs.o".
> 
> Peter

The kernel is 2.2.16-22; it's Red Hat 7.0 out of the box.
cat /proc/filesystems yields
        ext2
nodev   proc
        iso9660
nodev   devpts
nodev   usbdevfs
        vfat

locate ntfs.o returns nothing.

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From: Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: How do I "Kill" Netscape?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 19:17:34 GMT

I am running RH 7.1 and Netscape 4.76.  Every now and then Netscape
locks up on me and it won't "Close".  I have tried "Alt+F4" and "Close"
and "Exit" from the file menu.  The only way I have been able to get out
of it is to exit and re-start "X Windows"  Anyone know how I can "Kill"
Netscape without having to exit "X Windows"?  I am using KDE as my
desktop.  Thanks,

Lamar


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Newbie in a Fankle.....
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 19:31:41 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 19 May 2001 19:40:42 +0100, Martin 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lo,
> 
> I am running a dual boot system ( Mandrake 7.1 and Windows 98Se).
> 
> I had it all running sweetly ( My ISDN was working in Linux, and I even got
> UT to work).
> 
> However, I had to reinstall Windoze.........and lost the option to hop into
> Linux.
> 
> Can someone please tell me how to get Linux up again? I've tried to use the
> boot disk and installation CD to go into rescue mode, which leaves me with a
> command prompt. Trouble is I'm too stoopid to know what to do next. I did
> RTFM, but so far I haven't found the magic word to type in that'll make it
> all better again!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Martin
> 
You are gonna have to tell us how you booted or dual-booted before.  Did you
use lilo or grub?  Did you use a commercial boot loader?  How is the system
setup with regard to partitions/file systems?  When you use a boot floppy,
you get to a command prompt.  You probably were using lilo and windows
reclaimed the mbr when it installed.  I have seen windows do this with
installing all sorts of things.  Just like in real life with Microsoft; on
the computer windows hates not being first :)

As a side note... This is why I have a passionate dislike for dual boot
systems in general.  Computers are so cheap these days, one can buy a 1g
athlon with a nice video card, plenty of memory and a kvm box and share the
monitor, keyboard, and mouse for under $500 if you shop around a bit.  

-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
====================

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From: "Tomasz Chmielewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I "Kill" Netscape?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 21:32:03 +0200

"Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am running RH 7.1 and Netscape 4.76.  Every now and then Netscape
> locks up on me and it won't "Close".  I have tried "Alt+F4" and "Close"
> and "Exit" from the file menu.  The only way I have been able to get out
> of it is to exit and re-start "X Windows"  Anyone know how I can "Kill"
> Netscape without having to exit "X Windows"?  I am using KDE as my

Well, Netscape doesn't do well, especially on dial-up connections.

You can kill it with a command:
killall netscape
or
killall netscape-communicator

I'm not sure which one.

You can also use a better web browser - Opera (www.opera.com) or Mozilla
(www.mozilla.org).

-- T.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Unistalling, version control
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 19:36:25 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 17 May 2001 17:22:34 +0200, Jan Felix Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I was wondering if there is something like version
> control or maybe even an uninstall programm.
> Sure, I know about RPM and I also know about
> the 'make uninstall' thing. But I mean something
> more general. Is there a deamon available that
> checks wether a file is going to be overwritten
> by some process, probably makes a backup copy
> and logs it into a file? And if I want to unistall
> a package that is probably spread all over my
> system I just tell the deamon:
> "Hey, I wanna unistall the stuff I installed on
> Date <whatever> by executing "make install".
> Please check if any other program has overwritten
> the files and try to find wether they are still
> neaded by some other program or not. Thanx in
> advance, unistalld!"
> 
> Does anyone know about such a program? Or
> maybe something in development where I could
> do beta testing?
> 
> Thanks, Felix

One can use a combination of debian tools to achieve this result.  I use
apt-get and dpkg to assist me in managing files that are spread across the
system.  Dpkg is particularly nice to use when you want to erase
configuration files.  One could also check out where rpm deposits all its
files before doing an installation by checking the binary rpm using rpm
commands.  See man rpm for details.

Contrary to public perception, Linux also scatters configuration files, man
pages, documentation stuff, etc; pretty much across /etc, /usr/bin,
/usr/doc, and on...

-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
====================

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: which linux dist?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 19:40:06 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 19 May 2001 12:17:11 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am currently using Slackware as I find it extremely fast and powerful.
> 
> But now that I have a bit of money :) I don't know if to buy Red Hat
> Deluxe edition or Mandrake 8.0
> 
> I tried Mandrake 8.0 and it is brilliant as everything works out immediately
> but I found it a bit too slow and painful to get rid of all the services i 
> did not really need.
> 
> Which distribution would you recommend?
> 
> Nick
> (any reply here or to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 
If slackware works, why change?  Save your money, go to a movie, buy a cold
beer or a box of chocolate.  If you must try something else, may I suggest
something you can download and try for free?  Like almost any linux
distribution.  Linux is an online experience and it does not hurt to have
fast internet access for that experience :)  Spend your money on that online
experience instead.  Then you can download your pick of distributions.  Try
'em, burn 'em.  Have fun.  Next head on out and see what that sunset looks
like that you have been missing since you started fooling with linux :).

-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
====================

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Cochrane)
Subject: Re: How do I "Kill" Netscape?
Date: 19 May 2001 14:11:28 -0600

In article <9e6i0m$6ee$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tomasz Chmielewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I am running RH 7.1 and Netscape 4.76.  Every now and then Netscape
>> locks up on me and it won't "Close".  I have tried "Alt+F4" and "Close"
>> and "Exit" from the file menu.  The only way I have been able to get out
>> of it is to exit and re-start "X Windows"  Anyone know how I can "Kill"
>> Netscape without having to exit "X Windows"?  I am using KDE as my
>
>Well, Netscape doesn't do well, especially on dial-up connections.
>
>You can kill it with a command:
>killall netscape
>or
>killall netscape-communicator

On my system it's:
killall netscape

If it refuses to die, slaughter it with:
killall -9 netscape

Alternatively, you could read up on xkill:
man xkill

>
>I'm not sure which one.
>
>You can also use a better web browser - Opera (www.opera.com) or Mozilla
>(www.mozilla.org).
>
>-- T.
>
>


-- 
Jim Cochrane
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie in a Fankle.....
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 21:09:06 +0100

Thanks for the comments Mike.

I managed to get Lilo reinstated by reinstalling. I now have a secondary
problem which is a bit of a stumper.

Since I last ran Linux, I have swapped out my video card for a Geforce 2 MX.
Now, when the graphical user interface tries to launch, I'm getting
scrambled video.

A few sage words of advice would go down nicely right now.

You're quite right about the cheap PC's. The reason I'd strayed from Linux
for while, was that I have been setting up a two PC network, using a hub
etc. I'd now like to play at getting it all working with Linux, which I
understand has far superior networking in comparison to Microsoft's
offering.

Regards

Martin




Michael Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 19 May 2001 19:40:42 +0100, Martin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Lo,
> >
> > I am running a dual boot system ( Mandrake 7.1 and Windows 98Se).
> >
> > I had it all running sweetly ( My ISDN was working in Linux, and I even
got
> > UT to work).
> >
> > However, I had to reinstall Windoze.........and lost the option to hop
into
> > Linux.
> >
> > Can someone please tell me how to get Linux up again? I've tried to use
the
> > boot disk and installation CD to go into rescue mode, which leaves me
with a
> > command prompt. Trouble is I'm too stoopid to know what to do next. I
did
> > RTFM, but so far I haven't found the magic word to type in that'll make
it
> > all better again!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Martin
> >
> You are gonna have to tell us how you booted or dual-booted before.  Did
you
> use lilo or grub?  Did you use a commercial boot loader?  How is the
system
> setup with regard to partitions/file systems?  When you use a boot floppy,
> you get to a command prompt.  You probably were using lilo and windows
> reclaimed the mbr when it installed.  I have seen windows do this with
> installing all sorts of things.  Just like in real life with Microsoft; on
> the computer windows hates not being first :)
>
> As a side note... This is why I have a passionate dislike for dual boot
> systems in general.  Computers are so cheap these days, one can buy a 1g
> athlon with a nice video card, plenty of memory and a kvm box and share
the
> monitor, keyboard, and mouse for under $500 if you shop around a bit.
>
> --
> Michael Perry
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --------------------



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From: Aranwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dos partition not writable under linux
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:30:07 -0000

Ok thanks you've been a great help.
I'll make sure I let my unix teacher know about the umask thing :)

Thanks again

-Lady Aranwen

--
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http://www.help.com/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A CPU cooler for Linux?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:32:07 GMT

>>>>Is there a way to check this in a config file?
>>
>>> grep -i idle/usr/src/linux/.config
>>
>>Running this doesn't seem to do anything?

> There seems to be be a typo, try 'grep -i idle /usr/src/linux/.config'
> (without the quotes, of course:)

I get: grep: /usr/src/linux/.config: No such file or directory

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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bad links
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:30:34 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Juergen Heinzl"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In article <9e2d0h$gms$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wroot wrote:
>>Hi
>>
>>How can I get ls and tree to highlight bad symbolic links with blinking
>>colors? (The way ls is set up on Redhat)
> [-]
> Is it ? Just checking since ls does a lstat() and so can't even know
> whether a link is bad except when run with -L aka --dereference, though
> this results in a message from ls.
> 
> Might be one of RH's "innovations" ?

Works in Mandrake 7.2 too.

-- 
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie in a Fankle.....
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 16:00:39 -0500

Martin wrote:

> Thanks for the comments Mike.
> 
> I managed to get Lilo reinstated by reinstalling. I now have a secondary
> problem which is a bit of a stumper.
> 
> Since I last ran Linux, I have swapped out my video card for a Geforce 2
> MX. Now, when the graphical user interface tries to launch, I'm getting
> scrambled video.
> 
> A few sage words of advice would go down nicely right now.
> 
> You're quite right about the cheap PC's. The reason I'd strayed from Linux
> for while, was that I have been setting up a two PC network, using a hub
> etc. I'd now like to play at getting it all working with Linux, which I
> understand has far superior networking in comparison to Microsoft's
> offering.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Sat, 19 May 2001 19:40:42 +0100, Martin
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Lo,
>> >
>> > I am running a dual boot system ( Mandrake 7.1 and Windows 98Se).
>> >
>> > I had it all running sweetly ( My ISDN was working in Linux, and I even
> got
>> > UT to work).
>> >
>> > However, I had to reinstall Windoze.........and lost the option to hop
> into
>> > Linux.
>> >
>> > Can someone please tell me how to get Linux up again? I've tried to use
> the
>> > boot disk and installation CD to go into rescue mode, which leaves me
> with a
>> > command prompt. Trouble is I'm too stoopid to know what to do next. I
> did
>> > RTFM, but so far I haven't found the magic word to type in that'll make
> it
>> > all better again!
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Martin
>> >
>> You are gonna have to tell us how you booted or dual-booted before.  Did
> you
>> use lilo or grub?  Did you use a commercial boot loader?  How is the
> system
>> setup with regard to partitions/file systems?  When you use a boot
>> floppy,
>> you get to a command prompt.  You probably were using lilo and windows
>> reclaimed the mbr when it installed.  I have seen windows do this with
>> installing all sorts of things.  Just like in real life with Microsoft;
>> on the computer windows hates not being first :)
>>
>> As a side note... This is why I have a passionate dislike for dual boot
>> systems in general.  Computers are so cheap these days, one can buy a 1g
>> athlon with a nice video card, plenty of memory and a kvm box and share
> the
>> monitor, keyboard, and mouse for under $500 if you shop around a bit.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Perry
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> --------------------
> 
> 
> 

You should have made a boot floppy during the install.  If you didn't do 
that you can still make one which will get you back into Linux if you 
re-install that other so-called OS.

Place a fresh floppy into the floppy drive, then

# cd /boot
# dd if=vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0

Label the floppy and put it away for safe-keeping.


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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH6.2 & AMD K6-2
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 16:05:55 -0500

DMcBee wrote:

> Maybe then its my Compaq mainboard. Aha!
> Does that make sense?
> 
> 
> "Eric Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9e5tli$17nvi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I've had RH6.2 running on an overclocked K6-2 300 for a couple of years
>> now.  Your problem is not caused by the CPU.
>>
>> DMcBee wrote:
>>
>> > My install freezes at the very end of the copy/install process. I'm
>> > assuming because of the K6 cpu. Anybody know of any fixes?
>> >
>> >             -D
>> >
>>
>> --
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> ETA Associates, Inc.
>> http://www.ultracode.com/
> 
> 
> 

Compaq used to have "setup" and "diagnostics" floppy images at their 
website which could be used to help setup some of their boxes for 
installation of Unix or Unix-like OS.  If you can get into the BIOS, you 
want to set Plug and Play OS = OFF or NO, or whatever "Q" calls that switch.

Compaq's PC people are actually hostile to Linux, BSD and Unix.  Strange 
because they make some pretty damn good Unix hardware and software in the 
division which absorbed DEC.


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Subject: lightweight emacs shell-mode replacement
From: Martin Drautzburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 May 2001 00:18:49 +0200


I find emacs shell mode extremely useful, and I believe almost any
cmdline tool should be run under it. Now I wonder if there is a way to
just have shell-mode without (the footprint of) emacs ?

You know, something like a general purpose shell-editor. Stand
alone. Is there such a thing ?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: pppd works with one comp, not the other
Date: 19 May 2001 14:19:27 -0700


Aaargh, have to follow up to my own posting.  I inserted the wrong
fragment of code!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Hi,
   ...<snip>...
> I recently put together a new computer, as a kind of backup.
> I call it bluemouth and it has an Abit KT7 motherboard with a 700 Mhz AMD
> Duron CPU.  My main computer, ragwind, has an Asus A7V motherboard and
> an AMD Thunderbird CPU.  Both have slackware 7.1 linux installed.
> 
> Everything works normally on bluemouth except one thing.  I can't seem
> to get a PPP connection going to the outside world.  I use the same
> external modem and cable, and the same scripts.  The modem dials out,
> logs in, sends the password, and then disconnects on bluemouth.
> 
> I tried installing a different distro, SuSe on bluemouth.  The only
> difference is that the log message gave a little more information:
> May 17 13:39:30 bluemouth pppd[323]: Serial connection established.
> May 17 13:39:30 bluemouth pppd[323]: Couldn't attach tty to PPP unit 0:\
>                                  Invalid argument
> 
> I looked in the source code (also provided by Suse)
   ...<snip, where I put the wrong bit of source in the previous post>...

The String for the error messages appears in sys-linux.c, line 406, from
the source provided in the Suse Distro (SuSe Linux 6.3):

        if (ioctl(tty_fd, PPPIOCATTACH, &ifunit) < 0) {
            if (errno == EIO)
                return -1;
            fatal("Couldn't attach tty to PPP unit %d: %m", ifunit);
        }

BTW, setserial on both machines gives an identical report back, same
UART, etc.  But it doesn't seem like it could be the hardware or I wouldn't
get as far as I do.  Could there be something about the BIOS?

-- 
Replace ragwind.localdomain with rahul for a working email address

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: How do I "Kill" Netscape?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 19 May 2001 21:32:15 GMT

[Excessive crossposting trimmed.  Don't Do That!]

On Sat, 19 May 2001 19:17:34 GMT, Lamar Thomas staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>I am running RH 7.1 and Netscape 4.76.  Every now and then Netscape
>locks up on me and it won't "Close".  I have tried "Alt+F4" and "Close"
>and "Exit" from the file menu.  The only way I have been able to get out
>of it is to exit and re-start "X Windows"  Anyone know how I can "Kill"
>Netscape without having to exit "X Windows"?  I am using KDE as my
>desktop.  Thanks,

Several ways.  If you press Ctrl-Alt-Esc from within KDE, the mouse
cursor will change to a skull-n-crossbones, and any window you click on
will be sent an XKill event, which will work 95% of the time.  Or you
could open up the KDE process manager (kpm?  ksysguard?), click on the
Netscape process, and send it a Kill signal.  Or if you have a konsole
or xterm open, enter "killall -9 netscape" and watch Netscape go
bye-bye.  It might be a good idea to do an "rm -f ~/.netscape/lock"
after that, as Netscape doesn't always clean up after itself properly.

The best thing to do would be to use Konqueror as a browser if at all
possible.  Netscape has almost outlived its usefulness; I'd use
Konqueror for everything if it weren't for my webmail account, which uses
@#$ing Javascript that Konqueror can't deal with yet....

-- 
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: Chris Carlen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Thai fonts and Thai keyboard layout under linux/kde2
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 14:43:23 -0700

> >Hello,
> >
> >I'm using a SuSE 7.0 Linux-distribution (German) with KDE2 and I would like to
> >have the possibility to use Thai fonts and a Thai keyboard layout. Of course,
> >not permanently. Maybe you know this little switch-program which exists under
> >windows and shows up in the system tray. It allows at any time to switch the
> >keyboard layout between several languages - e.g. Thai and English or Russian
> and
> >German etc.. It switches the layout immediately and you can switch at any time.
> >
> >I need sth. like this with Linux, and I'm sure such a little program and the
> >necessary features in the keyboard driver exist (after all, Linux is better
> than
> >windows, thus I think so). Of course, I don't need it under the console, but
> >with X (KDE2), to write Thai eMails etc.. And of course, I need Thai fonts, too.
> >Especially under Netscape.
> >
> >Could someone please help me?!
> >
> >Thousand thanks in advance.
> >
> >Best regards, Marco ;-)

In Suse 7.0 we just changed the Option "XkbLayout" to "th" in
/etc/XF86Config and then you can type Thai by pressing Alt+RShift and
back to the original by pressing Alt+LShift.

Things may be different if you are not using the English keyboard to
start with.

In Suse 7.1, I had to copy the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/th from
the Suse 7.0 over the file in Suse 7.1 because the file in 7.1 has been
improved, but the improvements don't work in our situation.





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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NTFS files
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:41:45 +0200

Jack Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>> Jack Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>> >> Jack Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > Unfortunately, while man mount lists ntfs as one of the file types which
>> >> > can be mounted, when I try it I get a message that the kernel doesn't
>> >> > support that file type.  Any ideas?
>> >> "modprobe ntfs"
>> > I tried that; it tells me it doesn't recognize such a module.  Anything
>> > else I can try?
>> Tell us something about the kernel you are using. Which is it? ("uname
>> -r"). Who made it? (you? a distribution?). And "cat /proc/filesystems".
>> Also "locate ntfs.o".

> The kernel is 2.2.16-22; it's Red Hat 7.0 out of the box.

OK. They should certainly have provided the ntfs.o module with that.

> cat /proc/filesystems yields
>       ext2
> nodev proc
>       iso9660
> nodev devpts
> nodev usbdevfs
>       vfat

> locate ntfs.o returns nothing.

Then you'll have to either build it or get it from redhat. Check your cd
and redhat errata for the latter.

BTW, look in /lib/modules/2.2.16/fs/ just to be sure.

Peter

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