Linux-Misc Digest #983, Volume #27 Wed, 30 May 01 06:13:01 EDT
Contents:
NFS install..not mounting ("LRW")
Re: Collection of tarballs (David)
Re: NFS install..not mounting (KCmaniac)
Re: How To Share Network Connections Among 3 Machines? ('Dungeon' Dave)
Re: Please help me get WIN98 back!! (Akop Pogosian)
palm m505 & USB & Linux (Ken Mankoff)
Re: Madrake 8.0 and Nvidia openGL (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dennis_En=F8e?=)
Linux on a computer on a PCI card in a computer? (David Campbell)
Re: getting vfat support on a bootable floppy ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Please help me get my WIN98 back! (Arnulf Norkus)
Re: NFS install..not mounting (Corne Beerse)
Re: Matrox AGB graphics card question: simple (Allen Ashley)
Re: Linux on a computer on a PCI card in a computer? ("Darren")
Re: palm m505 & USB & Linux ("Darren")
Re: Please help me get WIN98 back!! ("Glitch")
Re: OT? Is OS-X THE userfriendly Unix? (Reiner Griess)
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From: "LRW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: NFS install..not mounting
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 05:28:35 GMT
Trying to install RH on my laptop, and it only has 16 MB RAM (eeep) so it
won't allow FTP install.
It doesn't have a CD-ROM, so I'm trying to install via NFS from the CD on
another Linux box on the network.
It connects to the net fine, but when I put in the other box's IP and NFS
directory of /mnt/cdrom or /dev/cdrom it says:
"I could not mount that directory from the server."
Whycome?
I can't find any docs online that address that issue.
Thanks for any help!
Liam
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Collection of tarballs
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 05:30:04 GMT
Peet Grobler wrote:
>
> Ravi Ambros Wallau wrote in message ...
> >linuxberg is the only example that I can remember.
> >
> >Why don't you want to use RPM? Do you want the source code and compile
> >it by your self?
>
> I built the system from scratch. And now it's time to upgrade. I'm still
> running on kernel 2.2.18. Plus, I've noticed there are RPM's out there for
> the stuff I have, that's got way higher versions than mine.
>
> >If U don't know what you really want (or you know what you want to do,
> >but don't know what software can do it), then you can use linuxberg or
> >some search tool to make this job.
> >
> >Hope it works... Buy some magazines, they always have cool CD's with
> >lots of programs.
> >
> >"Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za> wrote in message
> news:<3b134d6a$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >> I know it's possible to find rpm's using rpmfind.net
> >>
> >> Is there a similar place for tarballs? (tar.gz/bz2)?
> >>
> >> I know about sourceforge, but they don't have the standard packages
> included
> >> with linux systems, e.g. : crond, apache, at, etc.
> >>
> >> Anyone knows of such a place?
You might try here and do a search for what you need.
http://www.appwatch.com/
Apache would be at:
http://www.apache.org/
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.224% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: KCmaniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NFS install..not mounting
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 02:11:00 -0400
LRW wrote:
> Trying to install RH on my laptop, and it only has 16 MB RAM (eeep) so it
> won't allow FTP install.
> It doesn't have a CD-ROM, so I'm trying to install via NFS from the CD on
> another Linux box on the network.
> It connects to the net fine, but when I put in the other box's IP and NFS
> directory of /mnt/cdrom or /dev/cdrom it says:
> "I could not mount that directory from the server."
> Whycome?
> I can't find any docs online that address that issue.
> Thanks for any help!
>
I am no expert but I did successfully do an install onto a PC through another
PC's CDROM using NFS. I had to do A LOT of reading and trial and error to
get everything right. You probably will have to also.
You never mentioned what steps you have already tried as well as what RH
version you are messing with. Is the PC's kernal properly configured to use
NFS? Do you have all the TCP/IP configuration files set up correctly so that
the PC is the gateway/server and the laptop as a host? I gather the answer
to this is yes since how you said the two are talking to each other. Are you
specifying the correct directory structures? There is a pretty helpful HOWTO
on setting up NFS or installing using NFS out there, you just need to track
it down. It is a rather complicated procedure and without really knowing
what you already have done it is hard to say what could be wrong. I don't
know but considering one of the PC's is a laptop that could be throwing
another log into the fire. You probably should boot the laptop from a
bootnet.img floppy which will conduct the installation from scratch. Maybe
you are already doing that, I don't know. Good Luck.
RLH
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Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 23:40:25 +0100
From: 'Dungeon' Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: 'Dungeon' Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: How To Share Network Connections Among 3 Machines?
.. and it came to pass that Richard Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
uttered forth:
>'Dungeon' Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> .. and it came to pass that Tim Haynes
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered forth:
>
>> >Would you care to elucidate why one woul not want two cards on one
>> >network
>> >and why it would be so fundamentally wrong to do so?
>
>> If your Linux server wanted to go to the network 192.168.1.0, which
>> interface would it pick: eth1 or eth2?
>
>Whichever one had the mask 255.255.255.0 ?
>
I'm presuming both did, being class-C (but the netmasks weren't
described)
--
"Dungeon" Dave, in anti-harvest mode...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Akop Pogosian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Please help me get WIN98 back!!
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 06:55:11 +0000 (UTC)
In comp.os.linux.setup Somphong K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> During this Memorial weekend, I installed Redhat 7.1 (Kernel 2.4.2-2)
> on my PC at home. Win98 is on IDE drive/A and Rh7.1 completely on IDE
> drive/B. I did not realize at the time that part of linux, such as /boot
> partition, had to be on drive/A to use LILO.
That's not true. /boot can be pretty much anywhere, specially with the
LBA32 extensions that the RedHat version of Lilo has. On my PC, the
Linux system is setup on the slave disk IDE disk but Lilo is installed
on the MBR of the boot (master) disk. I have never bothered to change
that. Not only Linux seems to be booting fine from the second HD, but
also FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris 7 and probably others ..
> During graphic installation,I was prompted where to put LILO i.e. in MBR
> or linux drive's boot partition. Unfortunately I decided to avoid fooling
> with MBR and opted for the later.
If you don't install LILO on MBR of the boot disk, then you'd better
have some other multi-os boot loader or a Linux boot floppy or you
won't be able to boot into Linux at all.
> I hoped to restore MBR by executing 'fdisk /MBR' under MSDOS but I was
> surprised to learn that all my Windows rescue and MSDOS diskettes failed
> to even boot. PC tried to boot from the floppies but hang after reading/
> loading a few blocks.
If you just mentioned that you "decided to avoid fooling with MBR and
opted for the later" how did you manage to boot into Linux? Did you
change your BIOS settings to boot from that drive? If you did and now
you have trouble booting into widows that probably means Windows
doesn't like residing on the disk other than the one that you boot
from.
> 5) I have MSN connection which I usually use their 'MSN Internet Access'
> tool to connect. Could and how I connect to MSN from Linux??
I'd be surprised if you can't connect to MSN. You can do a google or a
dejnews search to find that out.
-akop
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From: Ken Mankoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,alt.comp.sys.palmtops.pilot
Subject: palm m505 & USB & Linux
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 00:48:48 -0600
Reply-To: Ken Mankoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi everyone,
I cannot get my m505 to talk to linux. There is some basic recognition of
the USB port and the device attached to it, but no communication between
the palm and the computer whatsoever.
Does anyone have any information to help me solve this?
If it helps, i'd be pleased to dump part of my log files...
thanks,
-k.
--
Ken Mankoff
LASP://303.492.3264
http://lasp.colorado.edu/~mankoff/
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dennis_En=F8e?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Madrake 8.0 and Nvidia openGL
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:17:28 +0200
"Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9f10s2$br6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Nice one KW
unfortunally most people have probs instaling it on MD 8.0, incl me, now back
to figure out what it can be since it wont do as i tell it
Dennis
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From: David Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on a computer on a PCI card in a computer?
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 07:28:44 GMT
Hi,
Are there any cpu-on-a-card solutions that can be used to run
linux inside a PC that otherwise is running windows (where
linux has its own IDE, ports etc), and sets itself up as a
networked interface such that the windows computer thinks
that it is networked to another computer?
I know about software solutions that can be used to run windows
inside linux, but I don't like the poor performance.
I need to run both, but I'd rather not have two physical boxes.
--
Regards,
-- Dave Campbell
PHONE AUS 07 3216 6015
PHONE INTL +61 7 3216 6015
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: getting vfat support on a bootable floppy
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:16:55 +0200
hdc <x@x> wrote:
> running on my bootable linux floppy. When I try to mount the FAT16
> partitions, with or without the -t vfat option, I get a statement that vfat
> is not supported. Now, vfat is operable on the system I created the floppy
> from. What do I have to do to get the floppy to support vfat? It
Load the vfat module into the kernel, or compile vfat support into it.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:14:04 +0200
SammyTheSnake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>>Well, you can't install any modern distro on it just like that surely?
>>It lacks a coprocessor! No install kernel will run on it.
> umm, may I vouchsafe the opinion "bollocks"
You may! Are you telling me that, say, Mandrake's install kernel is
compiled with FP support to replace the missing FPU in the 486sx?
I can certainly tell you that I haven't seen such an installation
kernel in many years.
> his problem seems to be with Corel's (bloody stupid) assumption that
> everyone who wants to install corel linux wants to do so from a windows
A perfectly possible explanation too. But lacking most of the data
necessary to decide, and being unwilling to try Corel's install on my
486sx to check, I can't tell!
> environment. OTOH, it strikes me that there's likely to be another option
> somewhere on that CD. Has TOP read all the instructions that come with the
> CD?
Peter
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From: Arnulf Norkus <0003236521380222513204#[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linus.hardware
Subject: Re: Please help me get my WIN98 back!
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:48:12 +0200
Somphong K schrieb:
> During this Memorial weekend, I installed Redhat 7.1 (Kernel 2.4.2-2)
> on my PC at home. Win98 is on IDE drive/A and Rh7.1 completely on IDE
> drive/B. I did not realize at the time that part of linux, such as /boot
> partition, had to be on drive/A to use LILO.
>
> During graphic installation,I was prompted where to put LILO i.e. in MBR
> or linux drive's boot partition. Unfortunately I decided to avoid fooling
> with MBR and opted for the later.
>
> The lilo installation ended up with failure. Everything else went fine.
> I created boot diskette. I then realized I was no longer able to boot
> Win98. Everybody in my household jumped on me!! My wife wanted to search
> webs about her stock investment, my kid wanted to play starcraft with his
> folks, ....
>
> I hoped to restore MBR by executing 'fdisk /MBR' under MSDOS but I was
> surprised to learn that all my Windows rescue and MSDOS diskettes failed
> to even boot. PC tried to boot from the floppies but hang after reading/
> loading a few blocks.
>
> When I mounted on to /dev/hda1, I could see that all Win98 directories
> and files were still intact. I just do not know why drive/A broke when I
> tried my best < which was obviously not good enough :-( > not to disturb
> its MBR.
>
> I would appreciate any advice that can pull me out of this mess.
>
> 1) What corruptions on drive/A and how to restore it??
>
> 2) I configured lilo to boot either linux and win98 but the later never
> came up - it hang just like when I booted off diskettes. Could you
> offer me a copy of /etc/lilo.conf to compare. My copy is at home.
>
> 3) I configured printer OK but not my sound card (Turtle Beach Montogo II
> and Altec Lansing 495). sndconfig autoprobe concluded it was Altec
> ADA305 and mentioned it is not supported by Linux yet. I tried without
> probe but there were only 2 Turtle Beach choices and my Montego II was
> not ont the list. I tried both and they all ended up in errors.
>
> Does it mean I'm out of luck as far as sound card is concerned?
>
> 4) Does Linux support HP 6200C scanner?? If affirmative, how?
>
> 5) I have MSN connection which I usually use their 'MSN Internet Access'
> tool to connect. Could and how I connect to MSN from Linux??
>
> Please asnwer to my e-mail address. Thanks for kind assistance.
>
> Rgds somphong
I had the same problems with various linuxes. Best what helped me was the
following.
First: be sure that your computer is set to boot from floppy at bios.
Next: boot from a bootable (rescue) disk and at the DOS-prompt set "sys c:",
after that maybe "fdisk /mbr" to make sure that mbr on boot-disk is correct.
Tip: set LILO to a disk and start linux from there.
Hope to have helped you
Ulf
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From: Corne Beerse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NFS install..not mounting
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:37:46 +0200
LRW wrote:
>
> Trying to install RH on my laptop, and it only has 16 MB RAM (eeep) so it
> won't allow FTP install.
> It doesn't have a CD-ROM, so I'm trying to install via NFS from the CD on
> another Linux box on the network.
> It connects to the net fine, but when I put in the other box's IP and NFS
> directory of /mnt/cdrom or /dev/cdrom it says:
> "I could not mount that directory from the server."
> Whycome?
Thinkin error: for nfs, only a local available filesystem can be
exported to be mounted on the remote machine. So first mount the cdrom
localy on a local mountpoint. Then export the mountpoint to the world
for nfsmounts.
If you mount the cdrom on /cdrom and export this /cdrom directory then
if there is a cdrom change, only the local /cdrom needs to be unmounted
and mounted to make the new cdrom available to the world. There is no
need to alter the export and nfs-mounts.
> I can't find any docs online that address that issue.
> Thanks for any help!
By head from the suse documentation (i did it last month):
On the already running linux box:
Mount the CDROM to the local file system. Say `mount /cdrom` provided it
is configured in your /etc/fstab file.
Now you can access the CDROM on the local machine.
Export the /cdrom directory, check the documentation on `export` (the
command) or /etc/export (the file)
On the new system, you can mount the exported file system. I used the
Suse distribution and yast for installation. That did the mount on this
side for me. See the mount of the nfs filesystem in the documentation.
CB
--
Everything should be as simple as possible but not simpler - A. Einstein
Corne' Beerse | Alcatel Telecom Nederland
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen Ashley)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Matrox AGB graphics card question: simple
Date: 30 May 2001 09:05:44 GMT
"lobotomy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Using the framebuffer console (if you have kernel support) you can run
>the console at basically any resolution the card supports. I have heard
>of at least 1280x1024 used, don't know how may characters that comes out
>to, but I would imagine it is more than 50x140.
Thanks for responding, and my apology for saying AGB when I meant AGP. I
hope to avoid framebuffer console and prefer to use simple character mode.
What I need to know is what VESA character modes are supported beyond
80x25.
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From: "Darren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on a computer on a PCI card in a computer?
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:14:29 +0100
Reply-To: "Darren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
linux on a rom ? inside the computer ???
best bet - buy a second harddisc - install linux on there then either use
lilo or another boot manager to choose which too run (windows or linux).
I use partition magic's boot manager - works a treat
failing - that you are going to need a second box and some network kit to
get these machine talking to each other (file / net sharing).
--
Are you sure you want to go to Red Alert sir ? That would involve changing
the lightbulb.............
"David Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> Are there any cpu-on-a-card solutions that can be used to run
> linux inside a PC that otherwise is running windows (where
> linux has its own IDE, ports etc), and sets itself up as a
> networked interface such that the windows computer thinks
> that it is networked to another computer?
>
> I know about software solutions that can be used to run windows
> inside linux, but I don't like the poor performance.
>
> I need to run both, but I'd rather not have two physical boxes.
>
> --
> Regards,
> -- Dave Campbell
> PHONE AUS 07 3216 6015
> PHONE INTL +61 7 3216 6015
>
>
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From: "Darren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,alt.comp.sys.palmtops.pilot
Subject: Re: palm m505 & USB & Linux
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:16:16 +0100
Reply-To: "Darren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
what distro of linux do you have ??
2.4 kernel onwards have USB support, although I still cannot get my webcam
working (not supported) - check out your distro's website for hardware
compatibility
--
Are you sure you want to go to Red Alert sir ? That would involve changing
the lightbulb.............
"Ken Mankoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I cannot get my m505 to talk to linux. There is some basic recognition of
> the USB port and the device attached to it, but no communication between
> the palm and the computer whatsoever.
>
> Does anyone have any information to help me solve this?
>
> If it helps, i'd be pleased to dump part of my log files...
>
>
> thanks,
> -k.
>
> --
> Ken Mankoff
> LASP://303.492.3264
> http://lasp.colorado.edu/~mankoff/
>
>
>
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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please help me get WIN98 back!!
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 03:04:45 -0400
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
In article <jKWQ6.4379$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "twamn"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Take it from a person who has been there before.
>
> Next time unplug ALL drives except the one you want to install to. I
> went to upgrade my PC to Win2K and overlaid the boot section to my
> existing OS (ouch). Now every time I install a new OS I only have one
> hard drive plus the CDrom drive connected to the mother board.
>
> I know this is to late for you but hopefully it will help others avoid
> wiping out their main OS while doing a 'simple' dual boot upgrade.
>
i dont see what the trouble is. I've never hosed my other OS when
installing Linux. I've installed lilo on a partition before instead of
the MBR but that didnt mess anything up but the boot record of the
Windows partition and a simple sys c: fixed the problem.
> tom
>
> "Somphong K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9f0sna$a37$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> During this Memorial weekend, I installed Redhat 7.1 (Kernel 2.4.2-2)
>> on my PC at home. Win98 is on IDE drive/A and Rh7.1 completely on IDE
>> drive/B. I did not realize at the time that part of linux, such as
>> /boot partition, had to be on drive/A to use LILO.
>>
driveA in Windows-speak is ur floppy drive
>> During graphic installation,I was prompted where to put LILO i.e. in
>> MBR or linux drive's boot partition. Unfortunately I decided to avoid
>> fooling with MBR and opted for the later.
>>
fooling with it? u tell the installation program u want it there and it
does it for u...what fooling around did u expect to have to do? edit the
hex codes yourself? REalizing whether u put it on the MBR for the boot
record of the linux drive either way it is put in place w/o you having to
do anything other than make some settings known to LILO so it can boot
linux and your other OSes, etc.
>> The lilo installation ended up with failure. Everything else went
fine
did u know it failed before u rebooted? if so, how? what errors did u
receive?
>> I created boot diskette. I then realized I was no longer able to boot
>> Win98. Everybody in my household jumped on me!! My wife wanted to
>> search webs about her stock investment, my kid wanted to play starcraft
>> with his folks, ....
>>
>> I hoped to restore MBR by executing 'fdisk /MBR' under MSDOS but I was
>> surprised to learn that all my Windows rescue and MSDOS diskettes
>> failed to even boot. PC tried to boot from the floppies but hang after
>> reading/ loading a few blocks.
>>
>> When I mounted on to /dev/hda1, I could see that all Win98 directories
how did u do this if your PC cant boot floppies? Saying its b/c you
booted Linux instead doesn't fly since the OS has nothing to do with
reading the floppy at boot time.
>> and files were still intact. I just do not know why drive/A broke when
driveA is the floppy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Reiner Griess)
Subject: Re: OT? Is OS-X THE userfriendly Unix?
Date: 30 May 2001 09:36:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 Apr 2001 10:52:52 GMT, burk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 20 Apr 2001 09:51:22 GMT, Reiner Griess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Hi together,
>>
>>I'm asking me, if OS-X will be _the_ Unix/linux/BSD
>>(whatever) for the standard-user. Is OS-X the friendliest
>>unix out there?
>
>That remains to be seen. The GUI is very glitzy, and it will get a
>great deal of application support from companies like Apple and
>MS. The interface in NOT X based, and it's based in a Macintosh
>sensibility, if you like that sort of thing.
I don't really care about if X or something else is used. Unfor-
tunateley there are too many window-managers based on X that
try to copy the Win95/NT/2k interface. Shame on the authors!
[...]
>
>>Is it a kind of Unix at all?
>
>Yes and no. It certainly has Unix underpinnings, you'd feel quite at
>home with the bash command line. It doesn't feel like unix in some
>of the way you configure it. You don't use /etc/hosts or
>/etc/resolve.conf. It uses the netinfo app in many places where
>Linux would use a nice text file.
I'm afraid to hear that, but ok. It is apple and they want to
have a really user-friendly system. Many users don't like to
scrolling through ascii-files...
>
>
>>Is it the OS which Linux tries to be for many years?
>
><grin>More the OS that Next tried to be </grin>.
>
>>Powerfull on command line, nice to use with mouse, good looking,
>>fast (?), stable. Ok: expensive, but this should not discussed
>>yet.
>
>Powerful, GUI, but not expensive. A couple hundred dollars. More
>expensive than Linux or FreeBSD, but less expensive than NT, which
>is what it's trying to compete with.
ACK
>
>>
>>Anybody there who have tested OS-X yet? Any opinions?
>
>Most Linux apps won't compile out of the box. Most Mac apps don't
>run perfectly. But it is stable in my hands (G3 Powerbook with 256M
>RAM) and BBedit and VIM and Pepper (a native OSX programmer's
>editor) run acceptably well, so it makes on OK web development box
>once you get your choice of languages running there. (It comes with
>Perl I think, Python has been ported IIRC, I'm using PHP4)
>
>It's early days yet. I think it will make an impact, but on who we
>have yet to see.
I'm curious about it ;)
Reiner
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