Linux-Misc Digest #111, Volume #19 Sat, 20 Feb 99 12:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
Re: Star Office - Registration????? (Esa Tikka)
Re: plz explain directory standards: /, /usr, /usr/local ("David Z. Maze")
Re: load average? ("David Z. Maze")
need help for pop3, mail and linux with win98 clients (Tobias Walkowiak)
Re: How Secure is Linux ...? (Philip Armstrong)
Re: xosview dumps core (Frans Gumpu Slothouber)
Re: Help w/ wildcard expressions (Larry Bados)
Re: sem_wait never fails? (James Dingwall)
Re: bash, csh, tcsh, ... ??? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: GCC x EGCS (Philip Armstrong)
Re: The infamous "no module symbols loaded" error ("Richard Latimer")
Connect to Win98 PCs on MS Networks with "File and printer sharing service", HOW?
("John Wong")
Re: Partition Magic? (Ulf Bohman)
Re: proxy server with IRC support? (Raymond Doetjes)
The .pl- extension? ("M.C.F. van Deutekom")
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Marco Anglesio)
Re: Linux Users in Houston TX (Rob)
Re: Small version of Linux ("Alfredo")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:57:56 GMT
On 18 Feb 1999 22:38:47 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] chose to bless us
all with this bit of wisdom:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh) writes:
>
>> On 15 Feb 1999 11:48:37 +0000, Paul Flinders
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose to bless us all with this bit of
>> wisdom:
>>
>> >
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> >> It's been shown that the trends towards safer workplaces, cars, airlines,
>> >> etc... already existed before government regulation. In fact, in some cases
>> >> the trends slowed when regulation appeared. You won't hear that in the news,
>> >> or course, because that would be a plus for those of us who want less
>> >> government and more independence.
>
>> >That would be why Ford decided it would be cheaper to pay accident
>> >victims compensation than to design a safer car?
>
>> To what are you referring?
>
>Presumably to the Ford Pinto, which had a small design defect that
>would have cost tens of millions to fix and looked like it would cost
>in the neighborhood of zero to one lives if it weren't fixed.
>Unfortunately for Ford, the one life didn't end up ended but merely
>horrible burnt and very, very litigious.
Ah the Pinto case. One of the biggest bits of urban mythology around.
What most people don't know about that case was that the car had no
gas cap. The women were backing up the highway to get to the exit they
just left. They had just realized that they had left their cap at the
station they'd just filled up. Most of the gas that ignited came up
through the filler tube.
Also that Pinto was slammed into by a full sized Chevy van going 70
mph. Ford did many crash tests and showed that even with the shield or
even moving the gas tank to a place between the axles, the gas tank
still ruptured in such a collision.
They did some tests with various full sized autos as well. Most of
them didn't fare much better. There's simply no way to make a car that
is safe for 70 mph collisions.
>But yes, safety in technology tends to increase over time; regulation
>may speed that up (by requiring non-cost-effective changes) or slow it
>down (by slowing the pace of technological change). Either way, a bad
>bargain.
>
>M.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred, Necronomicon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esa Tikka)
Subject: Re: Star Office - Registration?????
Date: 20 Feb 1999 14:41:49 GMT
On 20 Feb 1999 00:34:35 GMT, Rluby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I dl'd all 64 mb of Star Office Personal Edition from world-domination.mit.edu
>via ftp. In the Star-Office setup program it tells you to enter a registration
>key which can be picked up at their web site.
>
>So I go to their web site - Where is the Registration dialog? I've **already**
>downloaded the program. They do not appear to have explicit registration links
>( like a button labeled "registration" ) on their web site.
If I remember right, you get a registration key from to download section,
but of course it doesn't help you because it's generated from name and
email address you couldn't even have given. Didn't world-domination tell
you any code ?
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: plz explain directory standards: /, /usr, /usr/local
Date: 20 Feb 1999 10:36:33 -0500
Miernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
M> Can someone explain me the difference between these groups of directories,
M> what goes in which, etc.:
The most general answer is to look at the Linux Filesystem Heirarchy
Standard (FHS), online at http://www.pathname.com/fhs/.
/
Guaranteed to be available at system boot time.
M> /bin/
User-runnable binaries that are essential to getting the system
running. 'cp', 'ls', 'rm', etc.
M> /sbin/
System binaries that are essential to getting the system running.
'fsck', 'mkfs', 'init', 'shutdown', 'getty', etc.
M> /lib/
Shared libraries that are needed by binaries in /bin or /sbin. Also
includes the dynamic library loader (ld.so), which is needed by every
dynamically linked binary on the system.
/usr/
Most of the rest of the system. Intended to be read-only, if
possible, could be network mounted, might not come up until some other
initialization happens.
M> /usr/bin/
M> /usr/sbin/
M> /usr/lib/
/usr/local/
Things that aren't installed by your distribution. Could be
read-write and local even if /usr is read-only and remote. Most of my
local source lives in /usr/local/src. Well-behaved distribution
packages don't put anything here. (A half-dozen Debian packages
violate this rule, mostly to install directories that local
customizations (e.g. Emacs packages) should go in. I understand that
RedHat 'contrib' packages are much worse about this, but have no
actual experience.)
M> /usr/local/bin/
M> /usr/local/sbin/
M> /usr/local/lib/
M>
M> And what is this directory:
M>
M> /initrd/
Probably a mount point for the RAM disk your system initially boots
with. See /usr/src/linux/Documentation/initrd.txt.
M> It is empty, can I safely delete it?
If your distribution's startup scripts use it (again, I suspect Red
Hat does), no; it'll break your boot sequence.
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"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: load average?
Date: 20 Feb 1999 10:47:47 -0500
Xah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Xah> How exactly is the number in the 'load average' of 'top' calculated?
Look in fs/proc/array.c and kernel/sched.c in the kernel source for
where this is actually calculated and sent to /proc/loadavg, and
include/linux/sched.h for the CALC_LOAD macro that actually does the
work.
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"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: Tobias Walkowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: need help for pop3, mail and linux with win98 clients
Date: 20 Feb 1999 16:52:42 +0100
hi.
my configuration:
* linux [suse 6.0] server running samba
* windoze98 clients
* a ppp account and some pop3 accounts
now i connect to the ppp account at Provider1 with the linux comp and get
the mail from the pop3 accounts at Provider2. fetchmail does the job
and distributes the mail correctly to the appropriate users on the linux box.
questions:
1. can i read the mail at the windoze clients even when the mail clients
only let the mail server be a pop3 server? there are only the settings
for an smtp server as *outgoing* mail server.
2. what are the correct header settings when i send mail using the different
remote pop3 accounts? is the sender then [EMAIL PROTECTED] [s. a.]
or must it be [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
3. will the whole thing then work with 'sendmail -q' sending outgoing, queued
mail to Provider1?
4. how can i configure ppp/isdn such that at a connection request from
a windoze client [esp. using the www] the connection will be established
automatically?
answering any of these questions will be very appreciatied :)
thanx in advance
walko
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Armstrong)
Subject: Re: How Secure is Linux ...?
Date: 19 Feb 1999 16:07:16 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 19 Feb 1999 04:29:29 +0100, Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>I ask because I plan to get cable soon, and shall be providing a few
>>shell accounts for friends. Thing is: with a fixed IP, how easy will
>>it be for someone to telnet in and do some damage?
>
> As easy or hard as you make it. Just keep up to date with the
>distribution that your using, the security lists (BUGTRAQ being the one to
>be on as a minimum) and use common sense. I've had fairly static IPs for
>well over a year now and have never had a serious problem.
>
as a followup to this, its usually a good idea to turn *off* all
te services in inetd.conf that you don't need. Then you won't have
to worry about whether they're insecure or not :)
My machine is dialed up to my university network about 10% of the week +
I get portscanned on a regular basis, so you can expect some form
of attack from someone at some point. Why increase the risk by running
services that you're not familiar with and don't need anyway?
On top of this, you could use ipfwadm or ipchains if you're running
a 2.2.x kernel to prevent access from anywhere except trusted ips...
HTH,
Phil
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From: Frans Gumpu Slothouber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xosview dumps core
Date: 20 Feb 1999 15:55:21 GMT
Junichi SAITO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: When I invoke xosview (1.6.1), I get the following message and
: xosview dumps core:
: xosview: Symbol 'cerr' has different size in shared object,
: consider re-linking
: Could somebody explain why this happens ?
According to the readme.linux file in the distribution of xosview
there is something wrong with libg++....
>From the file:
===================================
- xosview uses the C++ iostream library. On linux this is usually
distributed as part of libg++. If you have an ELF system please
check and make sure that you have a copy of libg++ which is
compatable with your C library. This information can be gathered
by reading the release notes for the libraries. If you do not
use compatable libraries xosview will probably crash due to a
segmentation violation. In particular, 4.X redhat distributions
seem to have a libg++ which has bad strstream code in it. Xosview
is know to work with the following libc/libg++ combinations. If you
are having trouble with xosview dumping core in strstream code try
one of these library combinations:
libc.so.5.4.38, libstdc++.so.27.2.8
gnulibc, libstdc++ (which comes with egcs)
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Maybe that helps,
Have fun,
Frans.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Bados)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.user-friendly
Subject: Re: Help w/ wildcard expressions
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:04:00 GMT
Thank you for the assitance. My reference resources are limited and
reading the same couple of pages over and over didn't provide
nessesary details. Boy there sure are a lot of folks worried I'll
learn something using this medium. God forbid !!!
On 18 Feb 1999 10:09:38 GMT, Zuehl Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Larry Bados <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Please help a newbie get a grip w/wildcard expressions
>
>> What wildcard expressions would you use for the following:
>
>> 1) All files in the "/tmp" directory
>
>> syntax= ?
>
>ls /tmp or ls /tmp/*
>
>> 2) All files that contain a "w" in that directory (/tmp)
>
>> syntax= ?
>
>ls /tmp/*w*
>
>> 3) All files that start with "ab", contain an "e" and end with ".c"
>
>> syntax= ?
>
>ls /tmp/ab*e*.c
>
>> 4) All files that either start with "test" or contain the pattern "hi"
>
>> syntax= ?
>
>Example to list the files:
>
>ls -1 | grep -E "^test|hi"
>
>
>Hope that helps :)))))
>
>Regards,
>Hauke J.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Dingwall)
Subject: Re: sem_wait never fails?
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:01:46 GMT
Also something to consider is what version of of linuxthreads you are
using. In the new glibc 2.1 system calls no longer follow System V
(eg solaris) behaviour but BSD; ie system calls can no longer be
interrupted so you'll never get an EINTR. I don't know what happens if
you pass sem_wait a pointer which is not of type sem_t though.
James
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bash, csh, tcsh, ... ???
Date: 19 Feb 1999 10:20:26 -0500
Fabrizio Albonico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
>
> mine might be a stupid question, but I try anyway: since Linux (as UNIX)
> supports several types of shells, I was wondering which one to use.
> Are there substantial differences that make us prefer one instead of
> the others?
yes. bourne is much better for scripting.
> Or is it just a matter of personal preference?
somewhat.
i use bash everywhere.
consider that
*) bash, ksh and sh are good for scripting.
*) csh &co are lousy for scripting.
which lead to the fact that
*) most scripts are done in bourne syntax.
hence you will need to learn bourne syntax anyway. so few system
scripts are in csh that you can effectively ignore it. given that
*) bash has good interactive command-line editing via readline,
aliases and functions.
sh is weak compared to csh and tcsh in interactive usage. this was
the whole csh advantage. now that bash and ksh are as powerful, why
bother with csh?
why learn more than one shell?
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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
Date: 20 Feb 1999 08:05:31 PST
Paul Taylor wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:07:00 -0800, "P.G."
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> KDE and GNOME are going to prove to be integral to the success of
>> LINUX in the mainstream. The GUI for LINUX is will be the 'killer app'
>> and whoever gets there first will be the kings of the LINUX world.
I agree. However, it's not a universal desktop/GUI we need, but one or more
really good ones. Current Unix GUIs don't approach Win/Mac/PM for
comprehensiveness and ease of use. They need more work, and when they
become that complete and that good, they'll gain market share. Maybe KDE is
there already, but I can't decide until I play around with it some more. So
far, I really like what I see.
>You're assuming a monopolistic winner-takes-all scenario. The beauty
>of Linux is that there is no need (or reason) for there to be a single
>desktop solution.
Exactly. The beauty of this is that with several strong contenders fighting
out, a couple of good things can happen. First, competition improves the
breed. This point needs no further explanation, but here, there's an
addtional aspect: with no monopoly or standard in place, the mold can be
broken, and real progress made, continually. We're not stuck with outdated
ideas. (I refuse to use the term, "legacy". Ugh.) Second, there is
probably no such thing as a one-size-fits-all design. That's the problem
with Windows, etc., trying to be all things to all people, with the result
being so compromised that it doesn't do anything very well. There's
probably plenty of room for more than one popular design, because there's
more than one kind of user.
The "universal design" has consumer appeal, but it's nothing more than a
silly buzzword, or a buzz-idea, if you will. We've had this idea pushed on
us by corporations like Microsoft and IBM. If you think about it, it's
really, really stupid. There's no reason a guy running Photoshop and Dreamw
eaver on his Mac should use the same interface as someone running a
scheduling system for a trucking company. That's what we've been sold with
NT, and to a lesser extent, OS/2, and it's absurd.
>I'm currently using fvwm95, AfterStep and enlightenment
>window managers, with and without Gnome; I haven't decided which
>combination
>I like best, but that doesn't make any difference to the applications I am
>running. With themes, even the same window manager can look and feel very
>different depending on the user's taste (or lack thereof... ;)
This is true. What's lacking is the other extreme: there is no current
Linux distribution that installs and configures itself so it's instantly
usable. Some users don't want to be faced with a host of configuration
decisions. They just want to install the software, and get to work.
I just installed Mandrake 5.2. It's the closest thing to install-and-go
workstation Linux that I've seen. However, it's only ready to go if you log
in as root! That's ridiculous. It should install with a user account or
two already configured, and ready to run some basic apps. Not only would
this allow someone to get to work right away without screwing up his system,
it would also provide an example of an already-configured user account, so
that a Win/Mac user could instantly see what Linux/Unix is all about.
Matt O.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Armstrong)
Subject: Re: GCC x EGCS
Date: 19 Feb 1999 16:09:25 GMT
In article <7aj9fs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Bill Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >should I use both?
>>> If you have 2.0.x kernel you should use GCC to compiling kernel and EGCS to
>>> compiling programs.
>>How do you find out what kernel you have? Thanks!
>
>Run "uname -a" to see.
>
>However, there is no reason not to use EGCS to compile a 2.0.x
>kernel. It requires application of a simple patch to the source
>code tree and thats it.
>
Nooo...absolutely not. You do this at your own risk. 2.0.x kernels
are *not* guarenteed to work when compiled by egcs. You might
get lucky, in which case fine, but don't use an egcs compiled
2.0.x kernel in a production machine...
Phil
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From: "Richard Latimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The infamous "no module symbols loaded" error
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:53:52 -0800
Frank Hale wrote in message
>Okay I have an interesting twist to the "no module symbols loaded"
Did you figure this out? Mine doesn't load any module symbols
either.
richard
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From: "John Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,hk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Connect to Win98 PCs on MS Networks with "File and printer sharing service",
HOW?
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:58:12 +0800
Dear Linux World,
Could somebody tell me how to connect to the computers under the same
netmask? The network is running MS Network and many with MS File and printer
sharing service. I wanna get files from the shared folders of these PCs.
I'm using RH4.2 (kernel 2.0.35), network under dhcpcd TCP/IP (all the
PCs in the network use dhcpcd).
What application should I use and what should I do?
Welcome any suggestions to this newbie.
Regards
John
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From: Ulf Bohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Partition Magic?
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:13:33 +0100
Mike,
Partition Magic is great at manipulating partitions. One con is that you
have to have Win95/NT4 to fully use the latest PM (4.0). But you can
install it to a floppy directly from Linux and use the DOS-GUI version of
it.
I'd recommend BootMagic (included in PM 4), System Commander or another
Boot manager that doesn't use up a primary partition but installs to the
MBR directly. Then again you can get far with just LILO.
/Ulf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hey!
>
> What is the recomended Boot/partition Manager for multi OS'?
>
> TIA
>
> Mike
>
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.internet
Subject: Re: proxy server with IRC support?
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:00:34 +0100
You can build a kernel with firewall and masquerading functionalities.
It will then compile several modules these mocules are for several strange
protocolls like irc and ftp. Invoke insmod ip_masq_irc also run ipfwadm or
ipchains to configure the firewall for masquerading.
And you can use most common protocolls.
Raymond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm new to Linux, so maybe I'm missing something, but I couldn't find any
> information on proxy servers for Linux that can handle IRC protocol.
> I definitely don't want to install Microsoft NT with its Proxy server that's
> why is the question. Can anybody comment the situation?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Michael
>
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From: "M.C.F. van Deutekom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The .pl- extension?
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:47:19 +0100
Where does the .pl-extension stand for?
Can a file with this extension be excuted or opened by another program?
Thank you,
Maurice.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:05:16 GMT
On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:56:34 -0500, Robert S. Sciuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>the turn of the century ... it takes away others rights to derive
>proprietary products. That is something to which I cannot subscribe.
What rights are those, exactly?
marco
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux Users in Houston TX
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:07:50 GMT
no kidding....
EVERYONE has doubts about their abilities.
ask Eddie Van Halen how he feels about his guitar playing abilities
and he'll probably respond with "it's ok...but i need to work on this
or that"
On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:12:12 -0700, "Andy Martinez"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Even if I was qualified with Linux like I am in other
>UNIX flavors, I would not submit myself to working
>with such an ego maniac like this poster.
>
>\t
>
>
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From: "Alfredo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Small version of Linux
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:49:46 +0100
try mulinux (2 diskettes) in http://www4.pisoft.it/~andreoli/mulinux.html
Rgds Alfredo
Andy Johnson escribi� en mensaje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>
>Jim Richardson wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:06:38 -0500,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED], in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> brought forth the following words...:
>>
>> >> > I have an old PC with only a 3.5in floppy drive which i would like
to install
>> >> > linux on, Is there a small version of linux that i'll fit on just a
few disks?
>> >> > max 20? If so, where can i find it?
>> >>
>
>Trinux (http://www.trinux.org) fits on 2-3 disks, but I think is primarily
geared toward
>network management...
>
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