Linux-Misc Digest #134, Volume #28               Sun, 17 Jun 01 14:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Setserial Irq 5 ???? (Albert)
  XFree86 4.0.2 murdered my RH7 ("NG_lurker " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
  Postfix virtual domains aren't relayed  ("A De Graaf")
  Re: Writing an OS from scratch ("Tauno Voipio")
  Re: how does linux work? ("Tauno Voipio")
  HELP: restore linux from  backup (Lupei Zhu)
  Re: hda1 not unmounted at shutdown...why? (Victor Moroz)
  Upgrade for DVDs? (Wroot)
  Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows (phil hunt)
  Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows (phil hunt)
  Re: Linux, DAT and DOS Tapes (Krzysztof Gozdziewski)
  Re: Moving from PMMail to Kmail (Richard Kimber)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Albert)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:52:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Setserial Irq 5 ????

In <9gfhrb$rep$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/16/2001 
   at 07:01 AM, Jerry Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Albert wrote:

>> Have Linux Mandrake 7:1, KDE, Pent,111.
>> Works fine, BUT.
>> My modem is set Com 4, Irq 5, Which is where I need it.
>> I use Setserial /dev/ttyS3 irq 5 to activate Dialer, (via Console).
>> Need to know how to set this so I do not need to use the
>> Terminal each time I reboot.
>> 
>> Help will be much appreciated!!!
>> 
>> Albert, Wa3fib.
>> It took me 84 yrs. to get this dumb.
>> 
>Have you tried wvdialer?  

>BTW, I've got you beat.... it only took me 60 yrs to get 'this dumb'  
>;-)

Hi: Jerry:
Tnx much for the help.
I did not try wvdialer.
Where and how do I get it???
THINK I really need it now.

I have managed to remove my ttyS3 file from dev somehow. ;-(
Cannot not get it back. So looks like a re-install.

 I have Mandrake 7:1 using KDE. running well with Windoze 98 & Os/2.

BTW. Tho you are 60, I am younger.  (second childhood). 



Tnx agn for your help.
Albert, Wa3fib.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Albert)
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From: "NG_lurker <remove AT from return address when replying by email>" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XFree86 4.0.2 murdered my RH7
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:03:54 +0300

What in the world is this prompt after installing XFree86 4.0.2 binaries?

"according to /var/run/gdm.pid, gdm was already running(625) but seems to
have been murdered mysteriously"

this goes on and on in the screen after starting RH7, even as root in text
mode or gui. im sorry i dont have darn clue what this is. did i commit a
grave sin running these binaries? all i want is fix my corruption display
since my video card is unsupported (S3 Savage 4). Can anyone help me on
this?

out of desperation i run Xconfigurator. in PCI probe i get this :
PCI entry : S3 Inc | Savage 4
Xserver : XF86_SVGA
XFree4 driver : vga (not used by default)      #before upgrade the driver
entry is "No match"

after completing setup i reboot. my run level is 5 during startup. now my
resolution expanded to 640 x 480, i guess. i suddenly got huge fonts! (i
used to have 1024 x 768 res). what's worse, the window is now only half the
screen. the rest is black darkness. now what do i do? help help help!!!

im pasting below output of a new file created after upgrading to 4.0.2. i
found this in root home directory. this may shed light,  i hope.

Section "ServerLayout"
      Identifier     "XFree86 Configured"
      Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
      InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
      InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
      RgbPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
      ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
      FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
      FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
      FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
      FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
      FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
      FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
      Load  "GLcore"
      Load  "dbe"
      Load  "dri"
      Load  "extmod"
      Load  "glx"
      Load  "pex5"
      Load  "record"
      Load  "xie"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
      Identifier  "Keyboard0"
      Driver      "keyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
      Identifier  "Mouse0"
      Driver      "mouse"
      Option      "Protocol" "PS/2"
      Option      "Device" "/dev/mouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
      Identifier   "Monitor0"
      VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
      ModelName    "Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
      ### Available Driver options are:-
        #Option     "slow_edodram"
        #Option     "slow_dram"
        #Option     "fast_dram"
        #Option     "fpm_vram"
        #Option     "NoAccel"
        #Option     "HWCursor"
        #Option     "SWCursor"
        #Option     "ShadowFB"
        #Option     "Rotate"
        #Option     "UseBIOS"
      Identifier  "Card0"
      Driver      "savage"
      VendorName  "S3"
      BoardName   "Savage4"
      BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
      Identifier "Screen0"
      Device     "Card0"
      Monitor    "Monitor0"
      SubSection "Display"
            Depth     1
      EndSubSection
      SubSection "Display"
            Depth     4
      EndSubSection
      SubSection "Display"
            Depth     8
      EndSubSection
      SubSection "Display"
            Depth     15
      EndSubSection
      SubSection "Display"
            Depth     16
      EndSubSection
      SubSection "Display"
            Depth     24
      EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
EndSection





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"Remove AT from my reply to address above. Spam is not welcome."



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From: "A De Graaf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Postfix virtual domains aren't relayed 
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:18:46 GMT


Hello,

I've got a big problem concerning virtual domain relaying. All email that is
sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
This is very wrong..... Can someone please help me out?

Thanks in advance,
Ruben


Detailed config INFO:
===============
I've got postfix installed on a linux box with 1 IP. On that single IP
multiple 2 domains are being hosted: amtex.nl and bunkintermedia.nl

In the DNS SOA for Amtex is the MX record: mail.amtex.nl
And for the SOA of Bunkintermedia.nl the MX is: mail.bunkintermedia.nl

This is my main.cf config:
=================
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
command_directory = /usr/sbin
daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix
mail_owner = postfix
default_privs = nobody
myhostname = mail.amtex.nl
mydomain = amtex.nl
myorigin = $mydomain
inet_interfaces = all
default_transport = smtp
mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, $mydomain,
/etc/postfix/virtualhosts
mynetworks = 192.168.0.0/8, 127.0.0.0/8
virtual_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
relay_domains = $mydestination, /etc/postfix/virtualhosts
alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
mail_spool_directory = /var/spool/mail
mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail
smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name
debugger_command =
         PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
         xxgdb $daemon_directory/$process_name $process_id & sleep 5
alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases


This is my /etc/postfix/virtualhosts file:
=========================
amtex.nl, bunkintermedia.nl

This is my /etc/postfix/virtual file:
======================
# AMTEX.NL domain (all mail delivered to linuxuser "ruben")
amtex.nl VIRTUAL001
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ruben
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ruben
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ruben
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ruben
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ruben

# BUNKINTERMEDIA.NL domain (all mail delivered to some other linuxusers)
bunkintermedia.nl VIRTUAL004
[EMAIL PROTECTED]        bitnl-jbunk, bitnl-mbunk, bitnl-cboedhoe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]     bitnl-jbunk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]         bitnl-jbunk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   bitnl-mbunk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  bitnl-mbunk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  bitnl-nbosch

Snippet of /var/log/maillog:
==================
Jun 17 12:32:03 localhost postfix/smtpd[26361]: connect from
mail-out.chello.nl[213.46.240.7]
Jun 17 12:32:03 localhost postfix/smtpd[26361]: 224869CF1:
client=mail-out.chello.nl[213.46.240.7]
Jun 17 12:32:03 localhost postfix/cleanup[26362]: 224869CF1:
message-id=<010001c0f718$3d86e3e0$0200a8c0@WS01>
Jun 17 12:32:03 localhost postfix/qmgr[26293]: 224869CF1:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=937, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jun 17 12:32:03 localhost postfix/smtpd[26361]: disconnect from
mail-out.chello.nl[213.46.240.7]
Jun 17 12:32:03 localhost postfix/local[26364]: 224869CF1:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,relay=local, delay=0, status=sent ("|/usr/bin/procmail")




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From: "Tauno Voipio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Writing an OS from scratch
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:04:55 GMT


> Tauno Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:kmrV6.2896$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Chen Wang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:9g4f22$gtk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hi all, I am an OS newbie currently looking to write a small os from
> > > scratch, in an
> > > attempt to learn and apply the os concepts I've learned in class. This
> > would
> > > 1.
> > > satisfy my great curiosity to what really goes under the hood, and 2
> help
> > me
> > > see how given a piece of hardware (a computer, a router, a pda and
etc),
> > one
> > > goes about putting the basic layer of software upon it (so application
> > > programmers
> > > can make a lot of money writing nice and oo code).
> > >
> > > So far I haven't found any definitive guide on starting something like
> > this,
> > > does anyone
> > > know where I can find some HOWTO docs/books that start with the basic
> > > concepts?
> > > Given I've know a thing or two about OS concepts on paper, it's a bit
> > > frustrating
> > > when I really do not understand how it works in practice!
> > >
> >
> > There is a book:
> >
> > Richard A Burgess, Developing Your Own 32-bit Operating System, Sams,
ISBN
> > 0-672-30655-7.
> >
> > It is a couple of years old. With luck you can catch it.
> >
> > Tauno Voipio
> > tauno voipio @ iki fi
> >

(Top response moved to bottom for readability - TV)

"David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9gh5rf$6k54$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have that book and it starts with Minix OS. It has all development
tools.
> It does teach the basic. I would like more detail.
> David
>

The Burgess book describes a system called MMURTL. The book includes all the
source code also on a CD. What are the details you miss?

The other classic for self-brew is:

Andrew S. Tanenbaum, Operating Systems, Design and Implementation,
Prentice-Hall, ISBN 0-13-637331-3.

The ISBN is from my edition which may be slightly old (year 1987).

The Tanenbaum book describes the Minix system with source code. It was used
as a starting point by Linus.

Regards from Helsinki, the home city of Linux.

Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio @ iki fi




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From: "Tauno Voipio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how does linux work?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:11:08 GMT


"Jürgen Diez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3b2c7c36$0$134$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> can anyone tell me, where I can find a good explanation how linux works?
> I thought of thing like task management, scheduling, memory management, io
> management, module programming in linux, interrupt handling and so on.
>
> I'm a newbie in these linux questions, but I want to know more about how
> linux works.
>

You could start by reading the book:

Daniel P. Bovet & Marco Cesati, Understanding the Linux Kernel, O'Reilly,
ISBN 0-596-00002-2.

Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio @ iki fi



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From: Lupei Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP: restore linux from  backup
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:28:35 -0700

Hi, all

  I need to repartition my disk (a pentium running RH7.0) so I backed up
the /boot and / filesystem using "dump",  shut linux down and reboot it
with the RH7.0 CD. I chose "linux rescue" and the PC was booted into
single user mode. To my surprise, I don't find my disks and tape drivers
(no /dev/hda, /dev/st0, etc). Even more surprise, there is no "restore"
command available. Are there steps that I need to do to get them? How
people do dump/restore usually in Linux (I just switched from Sun
Solaris to Linux)?

  thanks all


  Lupei


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From: Victor Moroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hda1 not unmounted at shutdown...why?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 21:47:43 +0400

In general that means some files are still in use after kill. Is it
possible that you use losetup? Loopback devices cannot be killed during
shutdown and result in file system in use message. They must be deactivated
manually.

Victor

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>   I have this situation where at shutdown I get an error message saying
> that
> whatever that is being unmounted is in use and therefore doesn't get
> unmounted
> (forcing an fsck next time around).
>
> What's going on here?
>
> Cev.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wroot)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.video.dvd
Subject: Upgrade for DVDs?
Date: 17 Jun 2001 10:58:03 -0700

Hi,

I have a 2 year old computer at home and I'm thinking of getting DVD-ROM for it. 
I wonder if I also need to have it upgraded to make it play DVDs and same 
quality mpegs without quirks?

My current hardware is: 
AMD-K6-2 300Mhz
64Mb RAM
100 Mhz system bus
2Mb ATI Rage Pro Turbo AGP graphics card

Thanks

Wroot
P.S. I'm planning on playing DVDs under Linux, I think.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:08:46 +0100

On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:22:30 GMT, Isaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:53:09 +0100, phil hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
>>
>>I was under the impression that WinZip could deal with .tgz
>>and .tar.gz files (same file format, different extension)? Is
>>this not the case? Or is there some subtle problem with GNU tar?
>
>I have been able to open tar files using WinZip on windows NT.  I 
>know I opened a couple last week at work.

Could you do me a favour please and have a look at:

http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/oss/parrot/parrot-0.2.6.tgz

and:

http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/oss/stes/stes-0.1.tgz

Can you unpack these correctly?

>   I didn't notice
>whether those files had .tgz or tar.gz extensions but I suspect
>that they were tar.gz.  I really don't see many files with .tgz 
>extentions anymore.  I think that naming practice was more popular 
>when both windows and linux allowed fairly short file names.

I started using .tgz in 1999 when I released parrot, which is
written in Python and should run on Windows and Mac boxes as
well as Linux/Unix.

>>Do I need to save the packages as .zip archives, for Windows
>>users to be able to unpack them?
>
>A zip would be best because not everyone has WinZip, but infozip
>is free.  It's reasonable to tell people to grap Infozip's unzip
>program, but that won't handle tar files.  Hopefully you
>are providing the Windows users with files that use the DOS
>line terminators which means a separate archive anyway.

At the moment there is only one archive per package, the .tgz
one. A complexity here is that just because it's a .zip file,
doesn't mean it will be used by a Windows user -- it could be
a Unix or Mac user. Of the open source programs available on my 
site, one is Unix-specific but the other 3 should run on Win
of Mac boxes with few changes, or indeed on other environments that
run C++ or Python.

I am thinking of writing a utility that will do the tarring and
zipping, and automatically upload to the website and other stuff.
It'll be written in Python and user configurable so people can
adapt it to their requirements.

> I think
>you can use infozip with the right parameters to fix the line
>terminations on the fly.  

Yes, in infozip the -l and -ll options do this.

-- 
##  Philip Hunt                   ##
##  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ##




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Subject: Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:42:29 +0100

On 17 Jun 2001 13:32:26 GMT, Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt),
>  In a message on Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:53:09 +0100, wrote :
>
>ph> I maintain a website which includes some open source software 
>ph> I have written; the packages are downloadable as gzipped tarballs,
>ph> which were created using 
>ph> 
>ph>    tar czvf
>ph> 
>ph> (Using GNU tar). These packages are all valid AFAICT, because I
>ph> can download them from the website
>ph> 
>ph> (see  <http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/oss/oss.html>)
>ph> 
>ph> wih no problem, and untar them with ``tar xzvf''.
>ph> 
>ph> However, some people have recently emailed me, saying they can't
>ph> unpack thmr on their windows machines. I tried this, using Windows98
>ph> Netscape, and WinZip, and I couldn't unpack them either.
>ph> 
>ph> I was under the impression that WinZip could deal with .tgz
>ph> and .tar.gz files (same file format, different extension)? Is
>ph> this not the case? Or is there some subtle problem with GNU tar?
>ph> 
>ph> Do I need to save the packages as .zip archives, for Windows
>ph> users to be able to unpack them?
>
>I've unpacked .tar.gz files with WinZip under WinNT 4.0.  It is
>*possible* that WinZip is braindead and needs the files to be .tar.gz
>and barfs on .tgz files?  WinZip *appears* to unpack the .tar.gz in two
>stages -- that is it works like:
>
>gunzup foo.tar.gz
>tar xvf foo.tar
>
>It mumbles about uncompressing to a temp file first -- I'm assuming
>this is what it is doing -- my impression is that WinZip does not use
>'pipes' the way GnuTAR under UNIX does.
>
>MS-Windows in *general* has this stupidity relating to file extensions. 
>It is very likely that the extension '.tgz' is not reconized.  And
>WinZip could very likely be braindead WRT the combining of the two
>extendsions (.tar.gz) into one (.tgz).

I've tried renaming the files to .tar.gz, and that made no difference.

So i don't think that's it.

-- 
##  Philip Hunt                   ##
##  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ##




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From: Krzysztof Gozdziewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux, DAT and DOS Tapes
Date: 17 Jun 2001 18:04:41 GMT

In comp.os.linux.hardware Peter Kohut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I have a machine running Redhat Linux with a SCSI interface and a SONY 4mm
> DAT hanging of it. I also have a bunch of tapes which were originally
> written using NT Backup and Restore. My question is

> a) is there any way that I can restore the content of the tapes using Linux?
> b) I also have a second machine running Win 2000, but unfortunately without
> SCSI. The Win 2000 machine is connected to the Linux machine using simple
> TCP/IP and SAMBA shares. Is it possible to configure the systems such that I
> can use the Windows 2000 Backup/Restore application with the DAT drive
> hanging of the Linux machine?

You can use free backup software called amanda

http://www.amanda.org/

Amanda works in serwer/client architecure. Windows machines may be
archived with amanda too, it needs samba on the serwer working.
Take a look at  http://www.backupcentral.com/amanda.html.

I think it will perfectly fit your needs.

Regards,

-- 
Krzysztof Gozdziewski
Life ain't fair, but the root password helps - BOFH 



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From: Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Moving from PMMail to Kmail
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.apps
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:01:05 +0100

Lavinia wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:59:26 -0400 (EDT), FEEB wrote:
> 
> >
> >Is there a way how to convert PMMail folder structure to Kmail?
> >
> >Any comment would be appreciated.
> 

I assume you mean convert the actual mail files so they can be read by 
kmail (the structure you can easily create by hand).

There's a conversion program that will do this. Though you have to convert 
each folder separately,  I got it from the kmail website.  Unfortunately I 
cannot now remember its actual name, but a search of the site and/or a 
normal websearch should turn it up (the latter is how I found it. I think 
it began with "mh....." ).  If in the end you can't find it and are 
desperate, email me and I'll have a look to see if I've got it in my 
archives somewhere.

- Richard.
-- 
Richard Kimber
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Political Science resources  http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/
British Election 2001 http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/area/uk/ge01.htm

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