Linux-Misc Digest #137, Volume #28               Sun, 17 Jun 01 19:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: how do i network a linux box with win98? (Leonard Evens)
  Re: Announce: CNCC -- Color Name Combination Center ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 630 Graphics Card (Yongchun Zhang)
  Re: Moving from PMMail to Kmail ("Robert Morelli")
  Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows (Robert Heller)
  Re: remote window manager in RH 7.0 ? ("Brett L. Moore")
  Re: Upgrade for DVDs? ("Biz")
  Would like to choose sig at post time (Larry Ebbitt)
  Re: Upgrade for DVDs? (Galley_SimRacer)
  Top 10 posters (Michael Heiming)
  Re: adjusting linux partitions (Jonnie)
  Re: Which Linux distribution should I better install ? (Stanislaw Flatto)
  Re: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 630 Graphics Card (Jesper Petersen)

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how do i network a linux box with win98?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:50:57 -0500

alpha wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone
> right now, i have a small Lan of two computers running win98 &
> connected to the internet through a cable. i am determined to format
> one of them & put linux in... (probably Libernet since my friend said
> it's a pretty good distro for newbies) My qusetion now is, if i set up
> my linux box as a server , win98 as a client, how do i get them
> connected? i heard that i can install samba on linux. is it easy to
> use? do i have to install samba on the win98 machine also? can samba
> be set up so that i can share the internet access? if i dont use
> samba, can i use VMware, set up virtual win98 on the linux then share
> the internet using ICS inside virtual win98?
> i know that 's a lot a questions.. thx in advance
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

There are a variety of ways of doing this sort of thing, and they
do work.  I had a similar problem and I decided to get a dsl/cable
router.   Mine was a Linksys 4 port model which sells for about
$130 or less, depending on where you look.   It is simple to set up,
provides a firewall, and lets you connect Linux or Windows 98
computers to it.  Also you get your own internal network.

It sounds like you already have something like that.  If so,
just install Linux on one of the computers, and you should be
fine.  There are some tricks about having the Windows computer
access the Linux computer, so check again when you have Linux
installed.  VMware is irrelevant for your purposes.

Samba certainly works, but you may not need it, again depending
on what you want to do.
-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Announce: CNCC -- Color Name Combination Center
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.tcl,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x,comp.emacs
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 21:10:23 GMT

> * Tong * wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Have you ever wondered what the standard X-window color names are?
>> Have you been bothered by the fact that the color combination you
>> picked was not what you were imaging? Then worry no more. The color
>> mysteries terminator is here: the CNCC -- "Color Name Combination
>> Center", my free X-window color picker.

Interesting tool.  On a related note, I am struck by how much "nicer"
the Windows color selector is than Tk under X.
An interesting exercise might be to make the Tk native one
look spiffier.

-- 
Peter MacDonald                 BrowseX Systems Inc
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]        http://BrowseX.com
Phone: (250) 595-5998


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yongchun Zhang)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 630 Graphics Card
Date: 17 Jun 2001 14:10:59 -0700

Hi, Jesper:

CHEERS!

I finally MADE it!!

Thank you so much for your kind help!!!

Although I had read around quite a bit, all that helped me is basically the reference
you gave me. Thanks!

Though I have been with RedHat for one and half year, I am still quite a newbie.
Neither had I re-built my kernel before, all just because everything seems to work
fine for my desktop, nor did I know how to change to text boot mode. The past 
whole week had made me rebuild the kernel for at least a dozen times. I am happy
that I did learn quite a few things from this hard time.

Thanks again and have a nice day!

Yongchun

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From: "Robert Morelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Moving from PMMail to Kmail
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:19:58 -0600
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.apps

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"FEEB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I am planning my move from OS/2 to Linux.  I've been using Linux since
> 1995 on various servers, but now I am contemplating to move my
> workstation to Linux as well.  I have a very large archive of PMMail,
> which I would not like to loose.
> Is there a way how to convert PMMail folder structure to Kmail?  Any
> comment would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Frank Bures, <grandial at softex.cz>
> 

I'm in the same boat,  as I'm still using PMMail/2 to receive all my mail
but I'm doing almost everything else on Linux.  Let me tell you what
I've found:

1.  Blueprint software (the publisher of PMMail) is currently working on
a port to Linux.  I sent email to them several months ago to ask to
details.  They told me that it would take some time since they were doing a 
substantial amount of rewriting to deal with the differences between 
Linux and OS/2 (and Windows).  When I hear someone say a port will
"take some time" and "substantial rewrite" I conclude that the port
will never see the light of day.  I am proceeding on this assumption.

2.  I've posted the same question as you a few times in the past.  As far
as I've been able to determine,  no conversion tool exists.

3.  I have considered writing a conversion tool myself.  I haven't looked
into the formats too much,  but 
a) the PMMail format looks easy to reverse engineer
b) under UNIX there are only two or three widely used mailbox formats and
they are open

4.  What's held me back from making the switch to a Linux based mailer
is not so much the hassle of doing a conversion,  but of finding a decent
Linux mail client.  There are literally dozens of mail clients for Linux,
but  none of them seems to have reliability,  features,  and interface all
at once

Send me email if you'd like to collaborate on writing a conversion 
program or just to exchange ideas about a suitable replacement 
for PMMail.

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows
Date: 17 Jun 2001 21:58:54 GMT

  Greg Chicares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:18:10 -0400, wrote :

GC> [comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc trimmed only because I don't read it]
GC> 
GC> phil hunt wrote:
GC> > 
GC> > On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:22:30 GMT, Isaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
GC> > >On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:53:09 +0100, phil hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
GC> > >wrote:
GC> > >>
GC> > >>I was under the impression that WinZip could deal with .tgz
GC> > >>and .tar.gz files (same file format, different extension)?
GC> 
GC> Yes, that works here.
GC> 
GC> > >I have been able to open tar files using WinZip on windows NT.  I
GC> > >know I opened a couple last week at work.
GC> > 
GC> > Could you do me a favour please and have a look at:
GC> > 
GC> > http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/oss/parrot/parrot-0.2.6.tgz
GC> > 
GC> > and:
GC> > 
GC> > http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/oss/stes/stes-0.1.tgz
GC> > 
GC> > Can you unpack these correctly?
GC> 
GC> No. I suspect this file is corrupt:
GC> 
GC>   C:\>gzip -d stes-0_1.tgz
GC>   gzip: stes-0_1.tgz: invalid compressed data--crc error
GC> 
GC> Try creating the archive again and see whether you can
GC> extract from it; perhaps there was a transmission error
GC> when it was uploaded.
GC> 
GC> This file seems to have a different problem:
GC> 
GC>   C:\JUNK>gzip -d parrot-0_2_6.tgz
GC>   parrot-0_2_6.tgz: file not found
GC> 
GC> Yet it really does exist:
GC> 
GC> C:\>attrib *.tgz
GC>   A          STES-0_1.TGZ  C:\JUNK\stes-0_1.tgz
GC>   A          PARROT~1.TGZ  C:\JUNK\parrot-0_2_6.tgz
GC> 
GC> > >>Do I need to save the packages as .zip archives, for Windows
GC> > >>users to be able to unpack them?
GC> 
GC> Personal opinion: don't change.
GC>                                                                                    
                           

I did a wget on both files on a *Linux* box.  Both were properly
retrieved and tar was happy to list them:

sauron.deepsoft.com% wget
http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/oss/stes/stes-0.1.tgz
--17:28:17--  http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk:80/oss/stes/stes-0.1.tgz
           => `stes-0.1.tgz'
Connecting to www.vision25.demon.co.uk:80... connected!
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 36,755 [text/plain]

    0K -> .......... .......... .......... .....                 [100%]

17:28:34 (2.41 KB/s) - `stes-0.1.tgz' saved [36755/36755]

sauron.deepsoft.com% tar tzvf stes-0.1.tgz
drwxr-xr-x philh/users       0 2000-07-28 22:10 stes-0.1/
-rw-r--r-- philh/users   17977 2000-07-28 22:09 stes-0.1/COPYING
...
sauron.deepsoft.com% wget
http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/oss/parrot/parrot-0.2.6.tgz
--17:29:07-- 
http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk:80/oss/parrot/parrot-0.2.6.tgz
           => `parrot-0.2.6.tgz'
Connecting to www.vision25.demon.co.uk:80... connected!
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 35,672 [text/plain]

    0K -> .......... .......t.ar..  .t..z.vf par        ...... ....     
            [100%]

17:29:21 (2.56 KB/s) - `parrot-0.2.6.tgz' saved [35672/35672]

sauron.deepsoft.com% tar tzvf parrot-0.2.6.tgz 
drwxr-xr-x philh/users       0 2001-06-14 17:53 parrot-0.2.6/
-rw-r--r-- philh/users    1118 2000-02-12 00:27 parrot-0.2.6/SPEC
-rw-r--r-- philh/users     164 2001-05-31 19:28 parrot-0.2.6/Makefile
-rw-r--r-- philh/users    3403 1999-09-04 19:52 parrot-0.2.6/INTRO
-rw-r--r-- philh/users    4249 2001-06-14 12:10 parrot-0.2.6/parrot.py
...

I *strongly* suspect that the problem is 'corruption via text
conversion' -- your *webserver* is not generating the proper
'Content-Type:' headers for .tgz files.




       
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From: "Brett L. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: remote window manager in RH 7.0 ?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 21:42:30 GMT


Hi,

I tried the instructions below, but have no success (yet!).  First, I have
some questions about the window manager.  I am running gnome on the linux
box - but I assume that I am running xdm?  How can I confirm?

I put the ip address of the win machine with the X server in the Xaccess
line:
192.168.0.115
with no other characters or flags. Is this correct?

My next set of question are more general: what is the correct terminology
for my objective?  (So I can more effectively research this): I want to run
on an X window manager from a local linux box on another X server.  Can this
be expressed in a manner that is more in line with the redhat how-to's?

Thanks,
Brett

> On Redhat, you need to enable it. There are 2 files to edit:
> 1) /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config
>         comment out the last line - #DisplayManager.requestPort: 0
> 2) /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess -  look for line #*     #any host can get login
> window
>         either uncomment that line to allow anyone to get a login window
>                 or insert ip addresses of machines that should get login
win
> 3) generally I reboot here, but it isn't necessary - just haven't figured
> out which daemon to restart
>
> On Xwin32:
> 1) create a new XDMCP query session with ip of redhat box
> 2) set window mode to single
> 3) other settings to taste




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From: "Biz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.video.dvd
Subject: Re: Upgrade for DVDs?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 21:59:16 GMT

That is probably too slow to play them

--
Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash


Wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I have a 2 year old computer at home and I'm thinking of getting DVD-ROM
for it.
> I wonder if I also need to have it upgraded to make it play DVDs and same
> quality mpegs without quirks?
>
> My current hardware is:
> AMD-K6-2 300Mhz
> 64Mb RAM
> 100 Mhz system bus
> 2Mb ATI Rage Pro Turbo AGP graphics card
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
> P.S. I'm planning on playing DVDs under Linux, I think.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Ebbitt)
Subject: Would like to choose sig at post time
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 17 Jun 2001 22:20:13 GMT

I would like to be able to choose my signature dynamically,
according to the object of the post.  I have gotten used
to this using PMmail on OS/2.  Normally, I have a simple
sig (see below). but on an F-150 mailing list I use,
everyone likes to see a list of what goodies are installed
on your truck.  I have a sneaking suspicion that nobody
on the linux lists wants to see this <g>.

I've done Google searches, Freshmeat searches, and
Sourceforge searches with "choose signature" as keywords
to no avail.  I did find programs that would set a random
signatue, but that's not what I need.

Hints would be more than welcome.  I'm using Nutscrape
for mail and slrn for news.

-- 
Larry Ebbitt - Linux + OS/2 - Atlanta

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From: Galley_SimRacer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.video.dvd
Subject: Re: Upgrade for DVDs?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:11:47 GMT

Wroot wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a 2 year old computer at home and I'm thinking of getting
> DVD-ROM for it.
> I wonder if I also need to have it upgraded to make it play DVDs and
> same
> quality mpegs without quirks?
>
> My current hardware is:
> AMD-K6-2 300Mhz
> 64Mb RAM
> 100 Mhz system bus
> 2Mb ATI Rage Pro Turbo AGP graphics card
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
> P.S. I'm planning on playing DVDs under Linux, I think.

Any of the ATI cards from the Rage Fury (Rage 128 chipset) onward have
hardware decoding as good as any harware decoder.  The current chipset
is the Radeon.
-- 
"Life is what you experience between racing games"
                        Galley

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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:28:36 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Top 10 posters

Top 10 posters for the 7 day period ending 2001-06-18.
(comp.os.linux.misc)

     posts kbytes  name                         address
   1    26   60.0  Dances With Crows         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   2    19   45.6  Jean-David Beyer          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   3    19   39.7  David Efflandt            [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   4    17   29.7  Dave Uhring               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   5    15   26.2  Michael Heiming           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   6    14   37.4  Robert Heller             [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   7    13   19.9  Tom Edelbrok              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   8    13   19.4  bowman                    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   9    11   22.3  Leonard Evens             [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  10     9   19.4  Peet Grobler              peetgr at absa.co.za
       ---  -----
       156  319.7  Total for top 10

Totals for the newsgroup:
  455 posters
  937 articles
  1893.0 kbytes

The top 10 accounted for:
  2.2% of the posters
 16.6% of the articles
 16.9% of the bytes

Averages:
  2.1 articles / poster
  2.0 kbytes / article
  4.2 kbytes / poster

1 people posted for the first time this period.
They went on to post 1 articles altogether

The new posters accounted for:
    0.2% of the posters
    0.1% of the articles
    0.1% of the bytes

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From: Jonnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: adjusting linux partitions
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:30:11 -0000


Yes but during the next boot up it can't mount the partition that I've 
altered.


Brandon McCombs wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Jonnie wrote:
> > 
> > How do you adjust partitions in a linux system, every time I have 
changed my partitions I can't boot to linux again. Is there a way to 
change fstab to compensate for the changes. I have a usless partition but 
can't add it to the linux instillation.
> >
> 
> are u formatting the partitions???  U have to format b4 u can use them.


--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Linux distribution should I better install ?
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:00:21 +1000

Welcome back!
>From what you describe you need a distro which pays attention to proper
inclusion of compilers AND supporting libraries.
You are not afraid of command line prompt.
So go for it.
Slackware, Debian, Suse have reputation of good quality control.
They maybe a little slower to release the "newest, showest, fastest" version
but pride themselves on stability.
RedHat and its cousin Mandrake are (maybe) the easiest for MS-Glassware
refugees but from my personal point of view they create problems in
administration of the system by doing things a little out of standard.
Slackware uses the BSD initiation, Debian and Suse SysV style, so take what you
still remember from your younger days.
There is NO major difference in included applications, in a crunch you can
compile them from source - it IS Linux.

Have fun.

Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.

Olivier Mascia wrote:

> Hi, That's surely a dumb classical question.
> I was used to unixes until 1995 and developed a lot of applications (C) on
> multiple Unix systems by that time.
> Had to switch to Windows 'Chicago' (became '95), NT4 and Windows 2000 since
> then for business reasons. Now, want to come back to Unixes more and more,
> for professionnal and hobby reasons.
>
> I have installed a Red Hat 7.1 distribution (from ISO images available on
> their servers). Just spent two days (and nights) shaking that install to
> discover a lot and refresh my mind, both on user point of view, but also on
> C/C++ developer point of view.
>
> If you have been kind enough to read this until here, based on your own
> personal experience, what distribution would you recommend me for my
> pleasure ?
>
> ( The kernel itself is what is most important to me, so a distribution
> known to track kernel development closely will be higher on my shopping
> list. But among those (I hope there are some filling at least that
> requirement), I'd like to select a distribution which bring some goodies. I
> need an office suite, excellent email connectivity (I already miss IMAP
> which I was used to under Windows). As much developer's tools as possible
> (C/C++ compiler, and all that could follow). Web server (development
> purposes), ftp server (same reason). My choice of database is InterBase /
> Firebird. )
>
> Thank you very much,
> --
> Olivier <omascia (at) ieee (dot) org>
> ( if you need to email me, you'll know how to correct the above address :-)


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From: Jesper Petersen <jesperp**Delete**@nork.auc.dk>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 630 Graphics Card
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:42:25 +0200

>CHEERS!

What a happy mood you're in :-)

>I finally MADE it!!

Congratulations!

>Thank you so much for your kind help!!!

Glad I could help.

>Although I had read around quite a bit, all that helped me is basically the reference
>you gave me. Thanks!
>
>Though I have been with RedHat for one and half year, I am still quite a newbie.
>Neither had I re-built my kernel before, all just because everything seems to work
>fine for my desktop, nor did I know how to change to text boot mode. The past 
>whole week had made me rebuild the kernel for at least a dozen times. I am happy
>that I did learn quite a few things from this hard time.
>
>Thanks again and have a nice day!

And a nice day to you too :-)
Jesper

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