On Tuesday 08 June 2004 12:29, you wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 02:10, you wrote:
> > On Saturday 05 June 2004 10:17, David Jarman wrote:
> > >    5/   What in your opinion are suitable texts for learning how to
> > > program in Linux for Mandrake.  I have machine language and flowchart
> > > skills but not sufficient  knowledge with higher languages
> >
> > Unfortunately you do not tell us what types of tasks you wish to program
> > solutions for, so one can only be very general in reply.
That's still the case.

>    Dear Christopher,
>                             Thank you for your extensive reply.  Does RUTE
> stand for something else; 
Root User's Tutorial and Exposition.
A play on the homophonic nature of 'root' and 'rute' as well as being a 
recursive acronym.  Mad Unix geekery unleashed.

> I want to know more about this book and where I'm 
> more likely able to obtain a copy.  I don't mind a used edition and I live
> near Christchurch.

Tech books, Whitcoulls.  -- Unlikely possibilities.
amazon.com                      --  Certainty.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0130333514/qid=1086733573/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/104-3810111-6221559?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Mail system will probably mangle the above line, just go to amazon.com and put
RUTE Sheer
into the search box.
Note the reviews. They are all pertinent. In particular the one which reminds 
us that RUTE is now quite old, ~5 years. The content is almost all timeless, 
but there are some things which are now commonplace and not mentioned. e.g. 
there is nothing about broadband, and a number of now ancient techniques are 
discussed quite extensively, e.g. uucp, uucico, etc. 

>    Do you have opinions on C++ books with regard to the efficiency with
> which one can self tutor. 
No, I haven't any opinions one way or another about C++ books.
I'd suggest starting out with an interpretive language.
RUBY is my suggestion, The book I mentioned is both pretty good and available 
on the WWW. Also the mail-list is really helpful, and the interface to the 
FOX windowing system is excellent.

> If you do, I'd like to know them.  Better books 
> will probably be, for my purposes, ones that were texts at university level
> as the assumption is that only those that are lucid and to the point will
> be prescribed by lecturers. 
um :-) dangerous assumption, imho the number of computer texts which are 
"lucid and to the point" can be counted on the fingers of one hand. The RUTE 
book is one of them btw. Writing high quality English prose is very difficult 
to say the least, and very rarely achieved when the subject matter is 
computering. I know, I've tried and in a small way succeeded.

I have forwarded this reply to the CLUG list. I hope you do not mind?
-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell

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