On Mon, December 13, 2004 9:35 am, Derek Smithies said:
> Hi,
>  thanks for your comments Chris, I think it explains why with a fair
> degree of accuracy. You are right - the list behaviour here is pretty
> good.
>
> Now, I would like to explain why I started this thread.
> Given that such flaming events go on,
>>You ain't seen nothin' !  If you want some *real* flaming, check out
>>'alt.os.linux.mandrake' sometime...
>
> my suggestion is that newbie's do not join email lists. They (in general)
> do not know enough so that they can ask the right question. Since they
> don't know enough (that is why they are called newbies) they get flamed.
> Newbies are better to find a good book/taught how to use google/find an
> expert.
I disagree.

1. If you're going to ban noobs from the email list, what are you going to
replace it with? If they can't get anything out of this new box, NOW, then
most'll give up.
2. If this person has managed to actually subscribe to the mailing list,
then they're computer literate to some degree.
3. IMHO, the first step to getting started with linux after M$ is rather
large, and the use of printer reference material will rarely help
significantly.
4. I haven't seen anyone flamed inappropriately... I reckon the last
recipient was here either a) to d*ck people about, or b) to promote their
fringe religion.
5. I have seen many people who have taken a lot of time out to sort stuff
out, when there have been communication problems in the way. I haven't
seen them flamed - things have got a bit grunpy at times, but...
>
> The second reason is that I am hoping that the linux community can clean
> up its act, and stop flaming. Yes, I know this is a tall ask, but we have
> to stop acting like children.
I think that the linux community has a very clean reputation. All
interests attract their own group of knockers and spoilers, and this
community more than many has powerful enemies. To some extent, this
problem has to be addressed.

I know that newsgroups are old had now, but look into the number that have
been destroyed by the actions of a very few people. Even really
contentious ones like rec.kites have been attacked!

>
>
> Derek.

My $0.02,


Steve
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