My sources are the journals Science and Nature. I follow this rather closely, since I am a Geophysicist and work in the oil industry. Really, only Exxon and members of the administration do not believe global warming is taking place. Even oil companies such as Shell and BP agree that global warming is a reality, and are trying to reduce carbon emissions accordingly. I used to work at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, and have followed this stuff quite closely for 25 years.
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:29:13 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We seem to have different sources of information. > > What would it take to change your mind on these four items? A lot. 8-) > > You might visit these links. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2840137.stm > Greenland cools as world warms By Jonathan Amos BBC News > Online science staff Greenland is significantly cooler > now than it was 40 years ago. In this article they note that the cooling is a temporally and spatially localized anomaly. If you look at more than 50 years, warming dominates, and the ice is thinning. > > http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20020820southseaice.html > Krishna Ramanujan > Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. > (Phone: 301/286-3026) > Satellites show overall increases in antarctic sea ice cover > While recent studies have shown that on the whole Arctic > sea ice has decreased since the late 1970s, satellite > records of sea ice around Antarctica reveal an overall > increase in the southern hemisphere ice over the same > period. > > http://www.spacedaily.com/news/020113190044.qfy07gow.html > Despite global warming, Antarctica is cooler -- for now > PARIS (AFP) Jan 13, 2002 > >From Science, Volume 297, Number 5586, Issue of 30 Aug 2002, pp. 1502-1506. Mass Balance of Polar Ice Sheets Eric Rignot,1 Robert H. Thomas2 Recent advances in the determination of the mass balance of polar ice sheets show that the Greenland Ice Sheet is losing mass by near-coastal thinning, and that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, with thickening in the west and thinning in the north, is probably thinning overall. The mass imbalance of the East Antarctic Ice Sheet is likely to be small, but even its sign cannot yet be determined. Large sectors of ice in southeast Greenland, the Amundsen Sea Embayment of West Antarctica, and the Antarctic Peninsula are changing quite rapidly as a result of processes not yet understood. 1 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology, Mail Stop 300-235, Pasadena, CA 91109, USA. 2 EG&G Services, Wallops Flight Facility, Building N-159, Wallops Island, VA 23337, USA. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/MSU/msusci.html > Surface thermometer measurements indicate that the > temperature of the Earth is warming, while the satellite > data show long-term cooling trends. > Ummmm... "Surface thermometer measurements indicate that the temperature of the earth is wrming..." ----- Interpreting Differential Temperature Trends at the Surface and in the Lower Troposphere B. D. Santer, 1* T. M. L. Wigley, 2 D. J. Gaffen, 3 L. Bengtsson, 4 C. Doutriaux, 1 J. S. Boyle, 1 M. Esch, 4 J. J. Hnilo, 1 P. D. Jones, 5 G. A. Meehl, 2 E. Roeckner, 4 K. E. Taylor, 1 M. F. Wehner 1 Estimated global-scale temperature trends at Earth's surface (as recorded by thermometers) and in the lower troposphere (as monitored by satellites) diverge by up to 0.14°C per decade over the period 1979 to 1998. Accounting for differences in the spatial coverage of satellite and surface measurements reduces this differential, but still leaves a statistically significant residual of roughly 0.1°C per decade. Natural internal climate variability alone, as simulated in three state-of-the-art coupled atmosphere-ocean models, cannot completely explain this residual trend difference. A model forced by a combination of anthropogenic factors and volcanic aerosols yields surface-troposphere temperature trend differences closest to those observed. 1 Program for Climate Model Diagnosis and Intercomparison, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA 94550, USA. 2 National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, CO 80307, USA. 3 NOAA Air Resources Laboratory, Silver Spring, MD 20910, USA. 4 Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, D-20146 Hamburg, Germany. 5 Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia, Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK. Since 1979, polar-orbiting satellites have monitored atmospheric temperatures on a global scale. Satellite temperature measurements are mass-weighted averages of the microwave emissions from deep atmospheric layers (5). They are not the same physical quantity as the near-surface temperatures monitored by thermometers (6). We show that the observed difference between surface and tropospheric temperature changes cannot be fully explained by coverage differences between satellite- and surface-based measurement systems and/or the effects of natural internal climate variability. However, we find that both effects may make substantial contributions to the observed trend difference. We also discuss a recent model result that suggests that the observed warming of the surface relative to the lower troposphere may be a response to combined forcing by well-mixed greenhouse gases, sulfate aerosols, stratospheric ozone, and the effects of the Pinatubo eruption in June 1991 (12). ----- Science Volume 295, Number 5553, Issue of 11 Jan 2002, p. 275. Global Warming Continues The second warmest global surface temperature in more than a century of instrumental data (1) was recorded in the 2001 meteorological year (December 2000 through November 2001) (see panel A). The calendar year 2001 will also be the second warmest year on record, as the 11-month temperature anomaly exceeds that in the next warmest years (1990 and 1995) by almost 0.1°C. For our analysis, we used recently documented procedures for data over land (1) and for sea surface temperatures (2). The global warmth in 2001 is particularly meaningful because it occurs at a phase of the Southern Oscillation in which the tropical Pacific Ocean is cool (see panel B). The record warmth of 1998, in contrast, was bolstered by a strong El Niño that raised global temperature 0.2°C above the trend line (see panel A). Global surface air warming over the past 25 years is ~0.5°C, and in the past century is ~0.75°C (1). The recent surface warming contrasts with warming of only ~0.1°C in the troposphere over the past 22 years (3); however, surface and tropospheric warmings are similar over the past 50 years (4). The greatest warm anomalies in 2001 were in Alaska-Canada, in a band from North Africa to Central Asia, and in the Antarctic peninsula (Palmer Land). The Indian and Western Pacific oceans were unusually warm, continuing a trend of recent decades (1). The North Atlantic Ocean is notably warmer than the 1951-1980 climatology. Unusually cool conditions of recent decades, which were centered in Baffin Bay and extended south and southeast of Greenland (1), have given way to warm anomalies in the past 5 years. Overall, the 2001 temperature extends the unusual global warming of recent decades. This warming is considered to be a consequence of anthropogenic greenhouse gases (5), and thus the high 2001 temperature will likely invigorate discussions about how to slow global warming. J. Hansen,* R. Ruedy, M. Sato, K. Lo NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, New York, NY 10025, USA > There is more available online, from reputable sources. For a > double-barrel load of anti-global warming information, this link can't > be beat, although the maintainer of this site is more of a gadfly than > a big name scientist. > > http://www.vision.net.au/~daly/index.htm > > Joel > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:15:36PM -0600, Alan Jackson wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 10:59:56 -0500 > > Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > 1. Antarctica is getting colder. > > > 2. Greenland is getting colder. > > > 3. The USA weather stations show no temperature increase. > > > 4. Global satellite temperature data shows no temperature increase. This > > > agrees with data from weather balloons. > > > > All four of these facts are incorrect. In fact, there is basically a > > consensus amongst climate researchers that indeed global warming is > > taking place, and has been measured. The ice cover in both Antartica > > and Greenland is shrinking, worldwide in all continents glaciers > > are receeding at an accelerated rate, satellite data do in fact show > > a temperature increase, and US weather stations show the same. > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > | Alan K. 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