On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 01:13:56PM +0100, Karlsson Kent - keka wrote:
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keld J�rn Simonsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> ...
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 07:17:31PM +0100, Karlsson Kent - keka wrote:
> > > No, it cannot have any normative parts as such. Unfortunately,
> ...
> >
> > Well, the issue of normativeness have been extensivly debated
> > on the WG20 list, so you shold know better than what you wrote
> > above. TR type 1 is normative in nature and may have normative
> > parts. The standard did not fail in ISO terms but WG20 decided
> > to turn it into a TR. 14652 may have succeded an FDIS vote,
> > but it has never been put to one. There have been many changes
> > to the document that I did not agree to, but anyway it is there now.
>
> The editor of the JTC1 Directives, Part 3 wrote (emphases are mine):
>
> "Technical reports of type 1 or 2 can therefore be normative *for
> the purposes of the standards that make reference to them*, although they
> are **not considered to be normative documents in their own right**."
>
> Keld, please do not pretend that informative documents are normative
> just because you want them to be normative. This particular document
> was demoted by WG20 **_just because_ it was deemed highly inappropriate
> to have 14652 as normative**.
I am not pretending that TRs type 1 may have normative parts, I am just
referencing the rules in the JTC 1 Directives:
"3.2.1
type 1 Technical Report
publication for which the required support for approval as an International
Standard cannot be obtained, or for which there is doubt on whether
consensus has been achieved
NOTE: The content of a type 1 Technical Report, including its
annexes, may include information that is of a normative nature,
although the document itself is not of a normative nature."
I notice that it seems like I am contradicted on the "normative nature"
of the whole type 1 report. What I meant to say is that a type 1 TR
has a normative feel, as it is tries to be normative - but it is not normative.
The intention of the type 1 TR is that it is a trial standard, that
after at most a 3 year period will be reviewed for conversion into an
International Standard.
Kind regards
keld
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