On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 02:39:24PM -0800, Roy Charles wrote:
> I am not annoyed. I am not a big Ubuntu fan, although I use it, plus several
> others. It has its pluses and minuses, like all distros. I just want to set
> the record straight. It was just the way it was worded.
>
See, this is a good reaon why I hate top posting--by the time I read
this, I had no idea it referred to my post, as I'd already forgotten
what I'd written. :)
>
> I took no offense and hope that my rebuttal gives none. I enjoy reading your
> responses. Keep it up!
>
No, no, I'm not offended. I'm married. :) (For you single young 'uns
out there, the implication is that I hear far worse.)
I'm enjoying it too.
My take, for what it's worth...
As I think we both agree, Fedora isn't a beginner's distro, because it
is going to take some work and knowledge to get it going. (It usually
will in Ubuntu too, though they make it even harder to get beneath the
surface.)
Ubuntu does tend to test things a little better than does
Fedora--judging from Hardy Heron alpha, they're getting pulse-audio
working--with Fedora, it broke sound for most people. :) As someone
said on some list or another--possibly the developer's list--"We're
giving them choices, none of which work." :)
My personal favorite is Arch. One could argue whether Slack or Gentoo
is harder--in Gento you compile from source, but it resolves
dependencies--with Slack, you still have to do that for yourself.
One problem I'm finding, returning to Linux from the BSD world is that
each distro is quite different from the next. It reminds me of a quote
someone made about Gentoo--that they felt they were learning Gentoo, not
Linux. In the same sense, I see that the VirtualBox instructions for
some Fedora things were obviously written by an Ubuntu type--the
commands won't work as typed on Fedora.
I suppose the only true advanced distro is Linux from Scratch. As for
me, there are some things that I think, especially in anything
considering itself a desktop distro, that should work out of the box,
such as sound. (Hi Fedora!) :)
Wireless is a grey area, due to the manufacturers refusing to release
specs without begging. Usually MadWifi gets it done sooner or later.
For example, the becoming-popular-in-cheap-laptops AR5007EG isn't even
properly recognized (yet) by lspci. There's a patched MadWifi snapshot
that works, but only for 32 bit--they can't put it into the main tree
because it breaks 64 bit. :)
Because of this, it slows down many of the distros trying to give an out
of the box experience. Some compensate with ndiswrapper--of course,
Fedora and several others started customizing their stock kernel so that
if you used ndiswrapper, it crashed the machine. Sigh.
My own personal favorite is Arch. It's almost exactly what I like.
Small base install. You can compile from source without problem (many
of the distros such as Ubuntu and Fedora require extra work after
installation to be able to compile packages from source.)
EXCELLENT CENTRALIZED documentation. Their wiki isn't always perfect,
but for every issue I've run into, I've been able to easily find it on
their wiki.
Good point about Novell, (see if you'd used inline posting it wouldn't
have gotten snipped.:) ). They are trying a different direction--yes,
RH has some old-fashioned things, going back to the days when they were
one of the few around.
I haven't played with SuSE in awhile--I'm always too lazy to download
DVDs. I do with Fedora not because it's my main distro these days, as
I've said, due to work requirements.
The poor original poster may be totally confused by now--we should
probably start a new thread, but I'm too lazy. :)
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