Dear Shri K Singh,

Sharing thoughts of limtation / shortcomings of Ubuntu or FOSS is an unique way 
of hinderance to majority of our users. Basically We all Open source lovers 
need to consolidate our positions i.e. we need to create database of our 
support group with details such as Name, competency level of him / her 
(beginner/ moderate / good/ v good / best competency), organisation where he / 
she is working, Position he / she is working as.  No. of years experience, 
contact data (email, cell no if one desires to share), type of work carried out 
in organisation, What open source softwares are used now, what open source 
softwares are intended to use, except attitude resistance issue what technical 
challenge forecasted to face for carrying out Organisation task (Keep in mind 
the task to be carried out in respect of Organisation only to consider and not 
the Individual user task), remark if any. 

This data in excel format to make a database as per region of Indian states, so 
that the group can co-ordinate with nearest support group member to tackle the 
issue and will have morale building help to  all of us.

We need to concentrate on the issue of taking out work related requirement 
using all open source softwares in the Organisation, individual needs can be 
taken care if possible and the emphasis of the delivery of all the work of 
Organisation against a sizeable cost saving to be focussed to the higher up to 
justify the implementation of Open source against the licensed softwares. 
Further the enhanced support group can help in addressing the issues of concern 
by way of sharing experiences and research / modifications carried out by them 
for tackling issues at their end, help line support for such Open source can be 
initiated using NGO fund support like toll free no can be explored in due 
course.

I know I am thinking very ideal way and there are lots of effort needed but if 
we step forward together we will achieve miles very fast. As IT person we 
always are considered as delivery / service provider. We are doing customer 
service in our Organisation and outside too, we have a dual role to play while 
implementing Information Communication technology (ICT) tools whereby in our 
Organisation we are selling these tools useful for the Organisation as if we 
are the owner of them and are seen successful if those are implemented accepted 
and used by our Organisation users effectively, further we need to ensure the 
flawless implementation of these tools and services for users from the service 
provider. The selection of these tools by minute analysis of these tools is 
like research on it and have hands on experience of it prior to it being 
implemented for organisation.

When we all will have same wave length, we will be able to fromulate such 
support and virtual sharing of such implementations shared amongst all of us / 
Web soon. Looking for taking step forward nowon, Good luck to all of us.

We can initiate a session for this discussion, if any one wish to hsare some 
location for this event we can promote such discussion session and move 
forward. Do comment.

Regards,

DulangeS.
09819294898.


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On Thu, 11/9/14, K Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] unused Windows 8.1 license : refund available?
 To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <[email protected]>
 Date: Thursday, 11 September, 2014, 5:52 PM
 
  >India, especially, sees people
 buy these OS-free PCs to
 >install pirated copies of Windows on them, thus
 defeating the whole purpose
 >for which many people have devoted huge amounts of
 energy and time.
 
 In India, one needs to have dual boot PCs as certain govt
 departments
 deliberately favour microsoft. eg. The passport renewal pdf
 (from
 passportindia.gov.in etc)needs acrobat reader for windows as
 evince, okular
 and even adobe reader for linux do not work properly to fill
 the form. I
 have tried adobe reader 9.5 under ubuntu 14.04 to fill the 3
 page
 application form--after reaching the submit/validate button,
 the entire
 application crashes or shuts off. The form/pdf could only be
 properly
 filled in acrobat reader 9 under windows7 by me.
 
 Similarly for users of PNB's corporate banking facility
 online, the
 webpages are deliberately fixed to use only internet
 explorer. Using addons
 like user agent in firefox etc really does not help--and how
 many
 linux/ubuntu users in the corporate world would go to so
 much trouble to
 just access a website.
 
 Then many cheap and easily available hardware such as
 webcams or usb wifi
 devices now coming in the market don't have proper
 linux/ubuntu
 modules/drivers and its not easy for laymen to install the
 modules
 
 I tried to push the use of libreoffice across my
 organisation but there was
 too much HIDDEN resistance from users too set in their
 ways--also TOP MGT
 not being computer savvy did not understand the advantages
 of FOSS which
 would have been a sequel to move the entire organisation to
 Ubuntu later in
 the future.
 
 Kussh
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