On 11-Sep-2014 5:57 pm, "K Singh" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Even the Income tax department's ITR form in xls format (i don't remember
> correctly--i think it was ITR2 for HUF or ITR5) does not open properly
> under libreoffice. One who uses ubuntu has to opt for the java format of
> the particular ITR form to fill and submit online. Most people who are
> laymen using computers/ubuntu cannot handle the problems caused by govt
> departments.
>

True, the XLS version doesn't work, but you have to appreciate the govt for
making the effort to get a java version available. It looks like a beast,
and needed a little love to get it started and running, but once it was
running, i was able to successfully file the returns for my mom-in-law for
AY2013-14. Note, this is the first year that i have been able to the
computation and filing this entirely on Fedora without resorting to my
Windows VM, so i have to admit it is a big step forward. I do hope they
eventually make a web-based version of the form available, but until then,
this is good enough.


Sadly, more often then not, Govt departments are woefully lacking in tech
skills and make some really bad decisions in regards to interoperability,
so we should all keep up our education and awareness efforts so that it
eventually gets to them.


Regards

R. K. Rajeev


>

>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:52 PM, K Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >India, especially, sees people buy these OS-free PCs to
> > >install pirated copies of Windows on them, thus defeating the whole
> > purpose
> > >for which many people have devoted huge amounts of energy and time.
> >
> > In India, one needs to have dual boot PCs as certain govt departments
> > deliberately favour microsoft. eg. The passport renewal pdf (from
> > passportindia.gov.in etc)needs acrobat reader for windows as evince,
> > okular and even adobe reader for linux do not work properly to fill the
> > form. I have tried adobe reader 9.5 under ubuntu 14.04 to fill the 3
page
> > application form--after reaching the submit/validate button, the entire
> > application crashes or shuts off. The form/pdf could only be properly
> > filled in acrobat reader 9 under windows7 by me.
> >
> > Similarly for users of PNB's corporate banking facility online, the
> > webpages are deliberately fixed to use only internet explorer. Using
addons
> > like user agent in firefox etc really does not help--and how many
> > linux/ubuntu users in the corporate world would go to so much trouble to
> > just access a website.
> >
> > Then many cheap and easily available hardware such as webcams or usb
wifi
> > devices now coming in the market don't have proper linux/ubuntu
> > modules/drivers and its not easy for laymen to install the modules
> >
> > I tried to push the use of libreoffice across my organisation but there
> > was too much HIDDEN resistance from users too set in their ways--also
TOP
> > MGT not being computer savvy did not understand the advantages of FOSS
> > which would have been a sequel to move the entire organisation to Ubuntu
> > later in the future.
> >
> > Kussh
> >
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