I nominate Roger for Headmaster-President-Lord Moderator to moderate them
all! :)


> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 20:57:25 -0800
> From: Peter Manis <peter.ma...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] Creating a structure for SocalLinux.org -
>        asking  all members to read
> To: SoCal LUG Users List <linuxusers@socallinux.org>
>
> +1 to Roger being a hippie
>
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Dino K <socalli...@cloudcomp.info> wrote:
>
> > I have read your charter and think it's a great start!
> >
> > Roger's just a hippie, that's all.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:01 PM, David Kaiser <dkai...@cdk.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Happy New Year Everyone!
> >>
> >>                                                  January 1, 2010
> >>
> >>
> >> For the first message of the new year, I wanted to take a moment to
> >> reflect on the great 5.5 years we have been here and say thanks for
> >> everyone for making SocalLinux.org such a great community.   I feel that
> >> we have a great and diverse group and I really appreciate everyone that
> >> participates and the contributions of each and every person in our
> group.
> >>
> >> I also wanted to take this opportunity to share some thoughts I have had
> >> about the design of the group.
> >>
> >> Since we started this group (originally called 909linux.org), we have
> >> tried to focus as much as possible on creating and maintaining an
> >> environment that is open, allows anyone to contribute and speak their
> >> opinion, but along with that comes the need to do things such as control
> >> the tone of the discussion at times so that members of the group are not
> >> offended by any particular individual.    It is a fine balancing act to
> >> encourage everyone to speak their mind ? but still ask everyone to be
> >> respectful of others.  I want to keep that approach in the future.
> >> (Given the low number of conflicts we have, I think we have been
> >> successful in this.)
> >>
> >> When we started, we decided not to have a formalized structure, (where
> >> members at the time did not want to have cycles of elections and people
> >> being nominated as a president, etc.) so we have had a completely
> >> informal and unstructured group this entire time. Since I am the
> >> [genius/sucker: pick one] who registered the domain and maintains the
> >> computing infrastructure for the mailing list (and our 1 web page!) I
> >> want to bring this up and explain some of my thoughts, and also I think
> >> it would be useful for me to get feedback about this organization.
> >>
> >> While I don't mind being in the position of being the domain owner, I
> >> want to make sure that the workings of the group are actually the
> >> responsibility of the group.
> >>
> >> I am going to be looking for a way that there is a ?moderator group? (or
> >> some title) that we have a number of people that are aware of and
> >> publicly making decisions that are for the benefit of the group.  While
> >> I have never actually unsubscribed or banned any person from
> >> participating (mailing list, irc channel, or in person), I have had to
> >> enable some brief periods of moderation to the mailing list while
> >> personal issues were resolved.  I feel that this and other duties should
> >> be the responsibility of a group of people, and that this group should
> >> somehow be enabled or voted on by the members.
> >>
> >> To start with, just having multiple people be the moderators of the
> >> mailing list, and also having a way for the group members to maintain
> >> the web site (a task which I completely FAIL at doing in case you have
> >> noticed). This will go a long ways to achieving the goal of not having
> >> myself be singularly responsible for this and ensure that things are
> >> done for the benefit of everyone.  These things are on my agenda for the
> >> coming months and I will be making more announcements about this soon.
> >>
> >> I am going to be enlisting everyone's feedback and working to establish
> >> the following:
> >>  - an official charter which details the group structure
> >>  - a group of moderators
> >>  - an additional administrator to help me maintain the site (likely to
> >> be easier to do once we install a proper web management system of some
> >> sort)
> >>
> >> For now, I am asking everyone to take a moment and read what I have
> >> proposed for a Charter.
> >>
> >> The proposed charter is located at http://socallinux.org/charter
> >>
> >> This will be something which is only a 'read and understand' option for
> >> now.  If conditions demand, then in the future we can make this be
> >> something which has to be agreed upon before approval of signing-up to
> >> the mailing list or other activities.
> >>
> >> While I have started this Charter, I did so by following the example set
> >> by many other successful Linux User Groups.  Ultimately, I expect the
> >> members of this group to add to this list with their own ideas because
> >> this isn't just something I manage alone.  We all need to share the
> >> responsibility of keeping things running smoothly, so I am asking this
> >> conversation in an open forum like this.
> >>
> >> Please reply to this thread with comments and suggested additions.  I
> >> know the charter as it is currently written needs some help, but I need
> >> your help in keeping the group self-moderated and running smoothly so I
> >> strongly believe this is something we need to do.  Specifically seeking
> >> comments on Articles 6, 7, & 8, as I have not yet developed a policy on
> >> how moderators and administrators are selected and how the voting
> >> process might work.
> >>
> >> Thanks again for making SocalLinux.org a great community, and thanks in
> >> advance for taking the time to read this and the charter document idea
> >> I've posted.
> >>
> >> Looking forward to 2010!
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> David
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> >
> >
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